Greets All,
I am sorry that I have to ask a few questions, only cause I really dont want to mess anything up, I got the phone about a week ago, and I have been reading alot of the different sections about rooting, and I see the different types of ways, and there is good replies and bad replies so I am a bit on the fence. I even got a CWR of this: att-inspire-rooted-signed.zip but I cant for the life of me find where I got it from. But let me ask the questions:
1) I want to keep the phone completely as is, I dont want to install another rom or anything right now, all I want to be able to do, is, remove the att software, and root the phone so that I can install the apk's I have on my sdcard. Do I have to go thru the whole hack kit or one click root and all that? Or is there a simple root and stay with the stock rom?
2) The file I mentioned: att-inspire-rooted-signed.zip I renamed it to update.zip, and then went into the bootloader, then recovery, obviously I got the phone with the red triangle thing, but hitting the up volume and the power button give me a CWR menu, and one of them is to install update from sdcard, but when I choose that zip it says about e:\cant open command folder blah, and then when I click update it says invalid operation. is that cause the phone isnt rooted?
3) If I have to root the phone, then which one will root it, but leabe everything intact if any? I dont want to change my radio, or the rom.
I am sorry if I am asking too much, but the rom has no sim at the moment and just playing with it everything works beautifully, even the gps works instantly because its properly using agps.
Thanks for the answers.
AngelDeath said:
Greets All,
I am sorry that I have to ask a few questions, only cause I really dont want to mess anything up, I got the phone about a week ago, and I have been reading alot of the different sections about rooting, and I see the different types of ways, and there is good replies and bad replies so I am a bit on the fence. I even got a CWR of this: att-inspire-rooted-signed.zip but I cant for the life of me find where I got it from. But let me ask the questions:
1) I want to keep the phone completely as is, I dont want to install another rom or anything right now, all I want to be able to do, is, remove the att software, and root the phone so that I can install the apk's I have on my sdcard. Do I have to go thru the whole hack kit or one click root and all that? Or is there a simple root and stay with the stock rom?
2) The file I mentioned: att-inspire-rooted-signed.zip I renamed it to update.zip, and then went into the bootloader, then recovery, obviously I got the phone with the red triangle thing, but hitting the up volume and the power button give me a CWR menu, and one of them is to install update from sdcard, but when I choose that zip it says about e:\cant open command folder blah, and then when I click update it says invalid operation. is that cause the phone isnt rooted?
3) If I have to root the phone, then which one will root it, but leabe everything intact if any? I dont want to change my radio, or the rom.
I am sorry if I am asking too much, but the rom has no sim at the moment and just playing with it everything works beautifully, even the gps works instantly because its properly using agps.
Thanks for the answers.
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If you want to remove the ATT bloatware you will have to root. You don't have to root to sideload. Just download the sideload wonder machine found in the dev section. As for rooting id suggest using the hack kit. Ive rooted 4 phones with it. First use the simple gold card maker. Then download the hack kit and follow the instructions in the read me file. Att1 has made it pretty simple. Then flash cleardroid stock rooted rom. All the bloatware is already removed. Its really stable. Good luck.
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What about the simple one click program instead of the hack kit?
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What about the simple one click program instead of the hack kit?
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I have never used it myself so i cant give advice on it. That being said several thousand people have so im sure it will work fine.
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I'm glad you asked this question because I want to do the same thing I want to keep my phone stock and just root so I to can delete ATT crap and to edit my build.prop file because ATT pissed me off today telling me my speeds are slower than my friends 3gs because his has more storage space. Wtf. We ran speedtest app on both Phones to the same server and every single time his ran double or more on download speeds. ATT told me its the device doing it. IPhone fan boys is all I can say.
Anyway is there a easy way. I rooted my old aria with the unrevoked root. Super easy. Does the inspire have a easy way.
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I'm glad you asked this question because I want to do the same thing I want to keep my phone stock and just root so I to can delete ATT crap and to edit my build.prop file because ATT pissed me off today telling me my speeds are slower than my friends 3gs because his has more storage space. Wtf. We ran speedtest app on both Phones to the same server and every single time his ran double or more on download speeds. ATT told me its the device doing it. IPhone fan boys is all I can say.
Anyway is there a easy way. I rooted my old aria with the unrevoked root. Super easy. Does the inspire have a easy way.
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No true one click. I find the hack kit to be the best for me.
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I used bubby's one click method. Very simple, and there is a youtube video of it as well. Watch the entire video first so you have an idea of whats going on then go through the video while rooting. (not, downplaying the hack kit, i have never tried it) And for what its worth i too wanted a stock rom and chose Two pump chumps rom (Its a stock inspire rom -bloatware and improved a bit) and lee droids kernel, which gives a slight sound boost and smooths things a bit more imho. Good luck.
So if I do the root do you have to flash a Rom to delete bloatware? If I have to do a ROM the one posted above will it have sound issues etc? Thanks a ton.
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should be receiving my Inspire tomorrow....coming from the captivate section, this is definitely a little different. I have a quick question though...
The hack kit is used to enable s-off, temp-root, flash a rom that allows use of an old exploit, then permaroot. Once permarooted and CWM recovery has been flashed, any rom from the dev section can be flashed which will keep the root.
My question is, this process only has to be done once, correct?? All future roms will be flashed via CWM recovery, and there won't be ANY need to return to the stock ATT Inspire, unrooted rom??
I ask because with the Galaxy S/Captivate/etc it is usually recommended to flash back to stock before flashing a different custom rom, which means you lose root. I usually didn't that, and never had a problem, but i'm just trying to get a grasp on how this process differs from the Captivate. I will be GLAD to have a phone that can simply be cleared and flashed via CWM for all rom purposes.
All i know is bubby's method, and with it, it gives you root but its just like when you bought it. Now i think you can use clockwork mod or something to manually delete the bloat from there, but for the trouble its easier to flash a new rom that has it already done for you, and get a few bonuses with it. The one i suggested has given me no problems and is a ton faster than it was stock, although your phone may be different.
My question is, this process only has to be done once, correct?? All future roms will be flashed via CWM recovery, and there won't be ANY need to return to the stock ATT Inspire, unrooted rom??
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yes, the only need to go back is if you have to do a warranty return. Technically rooting voids the warranty, but if you undo it whos to know the difference
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yes, the only need to go back is if you have to do a warranty return. Technically rooting voids the warranty, but if you undo it whos to know the difference
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i actually meant to say "won't need to return to stock unless for warranty"...but yes i gotcha! thanks.
Like i said, although the Captivate seems more "open" or easier to root and such...in the end, this is going to be a MUCH better flashing technique compared to samsung phones. Everyone is always so worried about flashing to stock, doing this, doing that....
i guess i do have one last question....
it seems to be disputable at whether or not you need to do a factory reset/clear data within the CWM recovery during a new flash. When is it necessary and when can this be skipped?
Anytime your flashing a rom you need to do a full wipe, a benefit of CWM is it gives you the option when you start to flash anything to do one of 2 things A: being backup current rom, and B:full wipe.
So assuming you have a good backup already (if not do a backup before this step), just check the box for a full wipe and let it do the magic.
After getting the rom you want and you just want to flash a kernel, batterymod, etc then you only want to make a backup, you will not need to wipe at that point.
sounds good...thanks for all the help, Bamatide. Roll Tide!
I think i was just confused with the update process from within a rom, in which most dev's say it is ok to not wipe data in between updates. Flashing to a different rom requires the full wipe though everytime.
Just curious, but what happens if a full wipe is NOT done in between flashes? Is it just buggy or are there other problems?
The reason for a full wipe is because there could be conflicts between the two rom's where you could end up with just a bootloop and then you would need to do a wipe.
If you want there is a very simple way to do a full wipe, go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996383 and download the zip, this makes it very simple to do. I keep it on my sd card because I like to change rom's and this makes it very easy.
As for rooting I have tried both programs and found that Bubby's was the easy way to go, with the hack kit you have to be able to use the command prompt on the computer and with Bubby's it does it for you. I am not a whiz with command prompt that is why I did not use the hack kit.
I hope this helps especially the one click wipe, it work's great.
So with buddy's do you have to make the gold card what ever that is lol. I didn't have to do anything like that on my old aria and was curious. Also can someone make a sticky that explains what s-off is and what radio s-off etc. I didn't have any of that on my aria and I would like to know what they mean.
And to the op I'm sorry to thread jack but it was the exact same question I had. Hope you don't mind I'm asking on top of yours.
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So with buddy's do you have to make the gold card what ever that is lol. I didn't have to do anything like that on my old aria and was curious. Also can someone make a sticky that explains what s-off is and what radio s-off etc. I didn't have any of that on my aria and I would like to know what they mean.
And to the op I'm sorry to thread jack but it was the exact same question I had. Hope you don't mind I'm asking on top of yours.
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Don't be sorry most of us would rather you search then start a new thread. As for which method to use, essentially they are the same except the "one click" does most of the dos commands for you. Both downgrade your rom and radio and use that as an exploit, to root and s-off the phone.
Now problems people run into, there still seems to be a problem with CWM and the one click. For this reason I will recommend the Hack Kit, its nothing against bubby but it is sad to see the same "cwm blank screen" thread resurrected everyday.
Essentially s-on is Security on meaning you cannot flash unsigned roms. Radio s-off essentially allows you to flash custom roms. To flash a stock rooted rom you will need s-off.
With both methods you will need a gold card.
S-off also does away with the Gold card, once you get S-off you can format the SD card be done with it.
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Don't be sorry most of us would rather you search then start a new thread. As for which method to use, essentially they are the same except the "one click" does most of the dos commands for you. Both downgrade your rom and radio and use that as an exploit, to root and s-off the phone.
Now problems people run into, there still seems to be a problem with CWM and the one click. For this reason I will recommend the Hack Kit, its nothing against bubby but it is sad to see the same "cwm blank screen" thread resurrected everyday.
Essentially s-on is Security on meaning you cannot flash unsigned roms. Radio s-off essentially allows you to flash custom roms. To flash a stock rooted rom you will need s-off.
With both methods you will need a gold card.
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Awesome thanks for the explanation.
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First off, let me apologize for being a NOOB. I hate myself. HOWEVER, I watched the video and I'm following the rules. So go easy...
AFTER having ready TONS and TONS of post and threads, I have still not found a definitive answer to my question.
Is there a copy of the stock ROM (or RUU) for the HTC Doubleshot (aka myTouch 4G Slide) that is readily available?
I have had my phone for about a month and am now wanting to root. I would like to have a stock backup for warranty reasons (obviously). I have never rooted an Android. I have "jailbroke" many iPhones and in the begining I always had a backup just in case. Is this not a possibility right now for the HTC Doubleshot?
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First off, let me apologize for being a NOOB. I hate myself. HOWEVER, I watched the video and I'm following the rules. So go easy...
AFTER having ready TONS and TONS of post and threads, I have still not found a definitive answer to my question.
Is there a copy of the stock ROM (or RUU) for the HTC Doubleshot (aka myTouch 4G Slide) that is readily available?
I have had my phone for about a month and am now wanting to root. I would like to have a stock backup for warranty reasons (obviously). I have never rooted an Android. I have "jailbroke" many iPhones and in the begining I always had a backup just in case. Is this not a possibility right now for the HTC Doubleshot?
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Don't hate yourself, everyone starts somewhere. Welcome to android, where a stock, un-rooted device is capable of much more then a jailbroken i-anything.
There are a couple of ways to go about getting a backup - click the link to backup guide in my signature to see how to go about making backups of your data (both through ADB and CWM).
If you want to grab a ROM file from the dev section, supposing you don't have your own backup:
In the dev section:
De-odexed stock repack
Stock - equivalent of a factory reset on a fresh device
And also, Undeadk9 made a stock version that is de-odexed, has root and so forth, check it out:
Stock - rooted, busybox, etc...
Also, once you get from S-ON to S-OFF there really is no way to go back, but it won't have any impact on your warranty or exchange ability if needed.
Thanks. I am looking forward to this. If you are referring to the Stock ROM uploading by UndeadK9 or PaulObrian ( i think those were the names) I have already kind of glanced over those. The DEVs made sure to mention that they weren't 100% stock and It was "flashing" at my own risk. I don't mind this. I am just worried that if I mess up somehow I won't be able to take it back to T-Mobile to get a new one because they will see that it has been rooted... I
The one that is the equivalent of a factory reset on a fresh device is what you would want to use, if you wanted to go back to stock, with an odexed ROM, and all.
Thank you for the help. I am reading the Backup Guide link in your signature right now...
I was following instructions on how to use the Revolutionary Method to root my phone. ALL that I did was download Revolutionary, The HTC Fastboot Drivers and I obtained my beta key from the website. I hooked up my phone on charge only with USB Debugging enabled. The program ran fine and it said successful. The next step was to power down and then do an HBOOT. HOWEVER when I hit selected power down, my phone shut off AND IT WONT TURN BACK ON! Help!
What do I do? Please help me... Did I just BRICK my phone that friggin easily?!?!?! =(... I could cry....
Turn your phone back on it should resume revs picks up where it left off normally. If it doesn't hit power and volume down at the. Same time that will bring you to hboot (skating androids) verify you have s off in the upper right it should say s off. Then reboot.
You should be fine. And if it won't turn on as in power up you may want to check your battery
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Ok so I just go a new SK 4G and I'm looking to Root it and add a faster ROM...I'm not to familiar with any of the ROMS are rooting kits so lamens terms please if helpful. I was on Androids website and see that ICS 4.0 was released and was wondering if I could gt tht on my Sidekick and how I go about doing it. Also this new SDK thing, what might that be? Is that something for PC only or can you put it on the phone. I know it's alot of questions and you're probably (this guy here), but I'm just trying to get a faster better phones because the kernel OS is way outdated. Thanks
I have a post on mumbo's topic that gives a link to a video of how to root and flash the phone... So far, right now we don't have ICS on the sidekick but the devs have done a great job putting out ROMs that make the phone better... I'd recommend GloriousOverdoseV2...
Thanks...Whats the diff between root n flash cause I heard if u root your phone tht you shouldn't flash it..(I HEARD)....N could you give me a direct link to a installation process of the ROM.
Well in order to flash a rom you have to have root, so yeah, and as for how to root and flash a rom look under the stickes and you'll see a guide on how to
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when you root a phone, it pretty much gives you Administrator powers over it... the best analogy i could come up with is say you have a home computer that has 2 Users.. Administrator and then another User that can't really access critical things in the computer... before you root the phone, it's like your on that secondary user because you can't access or change certain things... after a root, you have administrator powers over the phone where you can access certain files and commands that you cant in regular user mode... As for Flashing, it's kind of reprogramming your phone... like say your working on a car and you're trying to optimize performance out of it, you can adjust fuel/air ratio or mess with the ECU to make ur car go faster without adding any additional parts like turbos... best analogies i could come up with...
as for guides for doing the entire process on the sidekick go to these youtube videos...
Make sure your phone is on KG2 first...
For the Root part...
http://youtu.be/wYC8XRqM-no
For flashing a ROM go to the following link and go to about 12:14 for the actual Flash part (He's using Smooth Maximus ROM but its the same for all of them...)
http://youtu.be/hJOFlRIKRRo
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus S from Best Buy on ATT. Right now I'm stuck with 2.3.4 (build gtj61). I'm very new at this but am trying to research how to upgrade to ICS. From what I can figure I can either Flash the full rom to 2.3.6 and wait for the update to hit, or I can fastboot an image to 2.3.6 or 4.0.4.
What I need to know is which option would be easier for a noob and can you help me find a guide to complete the process. So far the best thing I have found is the guide on android addicted.
Even though it may seem pretty comprehensive to some of you, to a complete noob like myself it is very confusing. For example when it says to download the Android usb / adb driver it doesn't really say what to do with it. And the very next step it shows 2 files that it didn't tell me to dl and basically loses me.
Can anyone tell me what is the easiest way to go about this and what exactly I need to do.
Thanks
Dan
No need to keep repeating the four letter word (noob). We've all been there before. My suggestion to you is of course the safest route for any beginner: find the OTA update.zip for 2.3.6 and wait for the phone to prompt you for the ICS update. And while you're enjoying your stock ICS experience, start reading up on bootloader unlocking, rooting and using custom kernel and ROMs so you can make full use of your Google phone.
Hope this helps! Cheers!
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I got mine back from repair today, and of course, they replaced the perfectly working 4.0.4 with a 2.3.6. The phone automatically started downloading the update a mere minute after booting, so what I'm stumped on is why yours didn't automagically update itself right away.
Maybe you could force an update check by typing *#*#2432546#*#* into the dialer, then checking the System Updates point inside About Phone.
Unlocking and flashing custom ROMs can be fraught with problems, and are not exactly for the faint of heart, given that there is no one-click executable to flash new ROMs like there was for Windows Mobile (my old phone was/is an HTC Universal, running Windows Mobile 6.5. A real fossil...). There are many guides on the forum, most of them stickied, be sure to chew through them, make backups, and pray to your chosen deity when you start typing in ADB
drivers are a HUGE pain. If you do this while running a linux distro (I run ubuntu) you don't need drivers. they are native with linux.
Anyways Linux is great and you should stop using winblows.
welcome!
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DC80X said:
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus S from Best Buy on ATT. Right now I'm stuck with 2.3.4 (build gtj61). I'm very new at this but am trying to research how to upgrade to ICS. From what I can figure I can either Flash the full rom to 2.3.6 and wait for the update to hit, or I can fastboot an image to 2.3.6 or 4.0.4.
What I need to know is which option would be easier for a noob and can you help me find a guide to complete the process. So far the best thing I have found is the guide on android addicted.
Even though it may seem pretty comprehensive to some of you, to a complete noob like myself it is very confusing. For example when it says to download the Android usb / adb driver it doesn't really say what to do with it. And the very next step it shows 2 files that it didn't tell me to dl and basically loses me.
Can anyone tell me what is the easiest way to go about this and what exactly I need to do.
Thanks
Dan
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You could always follow the steps in this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445621
I used the same Method for My GT-I9020T (T-Mobile)
I was on 2.3.6. A month after my wifes phone got the OTA to 4.0.4 I still was on 2.3.6.
I followed the steps in the thread above and did the Up-Grade Myself.
No rooting, No Boot loader un-locking, From stock recovery.
Worked perfectly for me.
Read through that thread above to see what other AT&T users said about this.
Also his XDA threads are no longer being updated so after reading through the posts, go to his new place here:
http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/nexus-s/
to see the latest info and files.
good luck.