Hi devs,
i accidentlly wet my asus m10 on my way to somewhere.then i removed the battery and let the handset dry for long time(around 1 hour in the sun).then i inserted the battery and tried to turn it on. No luck
then i came home opened the phone completely and sucked the water out using vacuum..let the phone stay in a sealed box of rice overnight(to absorb any leftover moisture). in the morning i reassembled the phone and tried to turn it on. it gave 2 dashes of vibrations(normal, when turned ON) but nothing came up on the screen.
then i removed the battery and again tried to turn it on..nothing..not even the vibration..since then i've tried everything from alcohol baths to plugging in the charger but the phone doesn't turn ON..pls help guys.
I'm afraid that It will not come on anymore. I don't know if letting it dry in the sun for about an hour was long enough. The problem is, when you put back your battery to soon, it will most likely cause more damage.
With vacuum do you mean vacuum cleaner? You have to be very careful with vacuum cleaners and electronics because of ESD (ElectroStatic Discharge). This can do serious harm to your product when it contains sensitive components. I've seen some strange behavior because of ESD in the past.
When you try to connect your phone to a computer, is it recognized? What can be, is that your software is corrupt. Maybe you can try to flash you phone. I don't have any experience with flashing phones, but there are a lot of people around here who have.
yes i used a vacuum cleaner..had no idea about the ESD thing
even when the phone is connected to a computer it is not recognized...there's no sign of any device connected to PC.
Putting in the battery after 1 hour in the sun was some what worst case scenario.
It hasn't really dried at all because of the enclosed space and the heat of the sun just evaporated the water into even more little corners.
In water damage cases the best thing you can do it rip out the battery as soon as possible and leave it for some DAYS in a bowl of rice.
The danger from vacuum cleaners is not the magnetic field from the motor but the electrostatic discharge from the moving air.another issue with the vacuum cleaners is the possibility of scratching the motherboard and thus rendering it nonoperative. This is more likely with metal than plastic but still a risk with plastic as well.
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Hello,
by a rediculous accident I forgot my HTC Diamond in the pocket of my jeans when running the laundry :-(
Afterwards, I opened the cover, took out the battery and let the phone dry out for 2 days. Now I've put it back together, and connected it to the charger. The "ring" is flashing, so the battery is charging but the phone itself is not starting and the display remains completely black, not even the vibration kick on starting...
Is there anything I could do? Or perhaps there is a chance to get out some photos I have shot earlier, would also be something...
ive heard that taking apart your phone and leaving the parts in rice can help (because the rice absorbs moisture)
Off topic:
I read one Desire went through a washing sequence in a washing machine in Desire spesific forum and now this?
Is this a new hobby? I mean... washing smartphone
darkman088 said:
Or perhaps there is a chance to get out some photos I have shot earlier, would also be something...
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If the photos are on your micro sd card, you may be able to plug that into an adapter and plug it into your PC and gain access to them that way. Just be sure that micro sd card is thoroughly dry before doing so.
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Hello,
thanks for the replies... This morning the phone booted!!! I was able to download the photos!!! But the screen has stains, obviously the remaining water.
PLEASE advise on how to dry that thing completely !!!
I think that I'm gonna pass on the rice thing.
@aaa - YOU ARE A JUNKA$$ !!! You think that's really funny?!? Especially when I'm currently TIGHT on budget and need the money for other things and the next phone is planned no earlier than Christmas... I'm hesitating whether you're a real human being...
You can dry it completely in an oven for three hours at thirty degrees or so. I've done this three times. If you have a fan forced oven, just turn the fans on, that'll be enough.
A safer way (if you can obtain it) is to leave the phone for 24 hours in a bowl of dessicant silica gel. You'll often get a small packet of silica gel when buying new electronics or other moisture-affected things. That small packet is enough, just put it in an airtight bag and leave it for 24 hours.
The next step would be disassembly and a thorough swabbing with denatured alcohol, but that's pretty extreme and only needed when the device isn't booting.
Some LCDs are hard to get moisture out of, some are not. Leaving the phone with the silica gel for longer will have a better effect. As the previous poster mentioned, rice also works (quite well), but takes longer than silica.
Good luck with it!
Another thin that will absorb moisture is common table salt. Take the phone apart very carefully. Remove battery first, make sure you're grounded as well.
Hello everybody.
thanks a lot for the numerous advices...
Unfortunately, I have more to report...
The phone dried out and booted 2 or 3 days later, as I said. The stains on the display disappeared as by magic one day later.
Everything was fine for a week until I launched the camera 2 days ago. The backlight of the display went off and came back only after removing the batter for 15 minutes.
Now the backlight is going off pretty often, sometimes it requires to remove the battery 1-2 times before it starts working again and yesterday it happened that it got activated again when I got a call...
Any ideas please?
And also the phone keeps overheating from time to time without real load (GPS or wi-fi) which dries out the battery. But I had this problem also before the laundry
Sounds like that moisture in the LCD unit left a bit of residue and is shorting the backlight somewhere.
Only option there would be to disassemble and swab the LCD boards and cables/connectors with denatured alcohol.
Alternatively, a new LCD unit should fix the problem if it persists, just make sure you alcohol swab the connectors before plugging them back in
Someone also mentioned drying out in salt before. While that does work, salt is extremely corrosive on solder and SMCs, so I wouldn't recommend that route.
i heard hair dryers are the bomb at the screen moisture, just take off all that you can and blow dry it.
I just don't understand your refusal on using white rice. It have saved countless phones.
Uncooked white rice is VERY mosture negative. Just put layer of rice, put your phone on it, cover it completely with white rice, seal it in. Ziploc could work too.
In a day or two your partially dry phone will be bone-dry. If it was soaked still you could first try to shake out water as much as can, soak it in distilled water to remove minerals, then white rice it for 3 to 5 days.
I had this problem with my Touch Diamond. Everything worked, but while i was trying to dry it I broke one of the battery "hinges" but the phone still worked after except only with black screen. The best thing to do probably is just leave it for a couple of days and hopefully your phone will be back!
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I just don't understand your refusal on using white rice. It have saved countless phones.
Uncooked white rice is VERY mosture negative. Just put layer of rice, put your phone on it, cover it completely with white rice, seal it in. Ziploc could work too.
In a day or two your partially dry phone will be bone-dry. If it was soaked still you could first try to shake out water as much as can, soak it in distilled water to remove minerals, then white rice it for 3 to 5 days.
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exactly what ive said. ive read everywhere that rice is one of the best solutions out there
Like was said before you most likely have some corrosion on a few contacts, if you have about 6 bucks you can spare you can get residue free contact cleaner in an aerosol at radio shack or any electronics store and save yourself having to scrub each contact and connector. Just tear the phone down down spray all the contacts and connectors with contact cleaner let it sit for a few then spray it down with air duster to get any thats get under the resistors, in the connectors, etc that hasn't dried; let it sit till you're positive everythings dry and put it back together. Does the same thing as alcohol just alot less scrubbing.
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Hello,
thanks for narrowing the problem down.
But for me it looks like something different, because:
1) I have been using the phone for 1 week without any problems and it got screwed after I've launched the camera app for the first time
2) The backlight works when I power on the phone. But its stop is event-triggered, like when I launch the sound or video player or when I get a call... Similar events would trigger the backlight back on.
Perhaps reflashing the software could fix that?
I went to a shop today and put another battery. The phone booted, anyway without any backlight, twice...
At least the device is still alive.
There probably was a tiny water bubble and it messed with phone when you turned camera on.
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Hello,
thanks for narrowing the problem down.
But for me it looks like something different, because:
1) I have been using the phone for 1 week without any problems and it got screwed after I've launched the camera app for the first time
2) The backlight works when I power on the phone. But its stop is event-triggered, like when I launch the sound or video player or when I get a call... Similar events would trigger the backlight back on.
Perhaps reflashing the software could fix that?
I went to a shop today and put another battery. The phone booted, anyway without any backlight, twice...
At least the device is still alive.
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remove the back cover and battery from the phone, and put everyting in a bowl of rice for a day,. should fix everything,
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There probably was a tiny water bubble and it messed with phone when you turned camera on.
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Either that or a short in the cameras circuit from corrosion, either way i'd pull it apart before it gets worse and check it out.
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Hello all,
My Nexus S i9020 running Android 4.0.4 has run into a spot of bother!
As a result of leaving my phone on the windowsill while I was having a shower, condensation seeped into the phone, causing it to malfunction, and eventually die. The phone will not turn on/off and the computer cannot recgonise the phone when I lug it into the USB port. The phone however, does get warm when I leave it charging for 20-30mins. I have tried the bag of rice trick and that didn't work. I have also taken the phone apart and cleaned it but that didn't work either.
I sent it away to a phone repair company to see if they could do anything and they said it was a waste of time as there was mildew growing on the circuit board. I said I would post this anyway, incase anyone might have an idea on how I could bring back my beloved phone, and also to warn people not to leave their devices in the bathroom when having a shower!
Thanks, Jake
Take the phone apart use a hairdryer and dry the mobo+screen for quite some time (20minutes++ depends) at the maximum heat be careful on the screen cause u can damage it from excess heat i can't tell exactly what is degree is ok for the screen as i do it by "feel' (no i don't touch it to understand if the heat is enough) . If that doesn't work then probably the ic chip is damaged or something else ;P
As for myself i never had a phone die from water damage i have dipped a nexus s in water (don't ask why i'm crazy enough) the battery didn't die completely but was unusable, the screen had marks after the water was removed, but the motherboard was fully functional. (take notice i have dipped 2 nexus s screens in water they always leave marks when the water is removed always !)
Worst i had was a bb9000 which i got into the shower with it (i was drunk) next morning the phone was on and completely soaked, motherboard survived, screen survived but battery died and the key membrane needed to be replaced
Did you leave it in your pocket and run it through the washing machine and at times it's possible that your friends dunked you in a swimming pool just for the fun of it? Did you get beaten by the rain or did you forget and go swimming with your cell phone in your pocket? Or perhaps it fell out of your pocket and into the pet's water bowl?
If you drop your cell phone in water, it is often possible to salvage it. Time is of the essence, however, so the first thing to do is to get your cell phone out of the water as soon as possible. Leaving a cell phone in water for even a few seconds might damage it beyond repair, but there are a few things that you can try and that sometimes work. The main things are opening the phone as much as possible, taking out the battery and completely drying off all of the components.
Step 1
Remove the battery from the phone, if possible, or at least turn the phone off. Most of the damage you are trying to prevent occurs when the device is electrified, so removing the battery helps considerably.
Step 2
Disassemble the device, if possible. This should only be done if you have taken your phone apart before and feel comfortable doing it. This will speed up the drying process as you can easily remove water from around the circuit board. This will void your warranty, but if your phone is wet the warranty is no longer in effect anyway.
Step 3
Blow compressed air on the device to remove as much water as possible. If you didn't disassemble your device, blow the air into a port or earpiece opening to try and force water out of another hole. Continue until no more water comes out of the device.
Step 4
Fill a container three-quarters full with dry, uncooked rice. Submerge your phone, or all the pieces of it, into the rice. Seal the container.
Step 5
Wait 48 hours for the rice to do its job, then open the container, reassemble the device and turn it on.
Tips
Dry rice is most often recommended because it is likely to already be in your possession and time is of the essence. Other desiccants, like silica gel packets or calcium chloride, will work faster and if they are on hand, would be preferable to rice.
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poordonnao said:
Did you leave it in your pocket and run it through the washing machine and at times it's possible that your friends dunked you in a swimming pool just for the fun of it? Did you get beaten by the rain or did you forget and go swimming with your cell phone in your pocket? Or perhaps it fell out of your pocket and into the pet's water bowl?
If you drop your cell phone in water, it is often possible to salvage it. Time is of the essence, however, so the first thing to do is to get your cell phone out of the water as soon as possible. Leaving a cell phone in water for even a few seconds might damage it beyond repair, but there are a few things that you can try and that sometimes work. The main things are opening the phone as much as possible, taking out the battery and completely drying off all of the components.
Step 1
Remove the battery from the phone, if possible, or at least turn the phone off. Most of the damage you are trying to prevent occurs when the device is electrified, so removing the battery helps considerably.
Step 2
Disassemble the device, if possible. This should only be done if you have taken your phone apart before and feel comfortable doing it. This will speed up the drying process as you can easily remove water from around the circuit board. This will void your warranty, but if your phone is wet the warranty is no longer in effect anyway.
Step 3
Blow compressed air on the device to remove as much water as possible. If you didn't disassemble your device, blow the air into a port or earpiece opening to try and force water out of another hole. Continue until no more water comes out of the device.
Step 4
Fill a container three-quarters full with dry, uncooked rice. Submerge your phone, or all the pieces of it, into the rice. Seal the container.
Step 5
Wait 48 hours for the rice to do its job, then open the container, reassemble the device and turn it on.
Tips
Dry rice is most often recommended because it is likely to already be in your possession and time is of the essence. Other desiccants, like silica gel packets or calcium chloride, will work faster and if they are on hand, would be preferable to rice.
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Put it in rice. At night a couple of asian guys will come and fix it.
Rice! I've saved a phone and an iPod this way. Hope it works
Hi all,
I ditched my phone in water.
I disassembled the whole phone, cleaned everythign with IPA and dried it afterwards. Now I would like to check if the mainboard is still working.
I connected the battery, display and usb port to the mainboard and plugged a charger in -> no response (display black, no vibration, sound etc)
I assume that the batterie is completly dead as it discharged until it turned off.
Is this aready a clear sign for a broken mainboard or does it only boot when fully assembled? Just want to avoid to put more effort into the phone, e.g. replacing the battery etc if its already lost...
Thanks in advance!
Dry for at least 72 hours in a warm dry room with a fan on the mobo. The BGA chipsets can dry slow.
Isopropyl is hygroscopic so it's important to remember it may attract some moisture from the air while drying. Use only >92% or greater, 96% is best. Submerged the board in it for a couple minutes while moving it around.
Battery needs to be charged and good for the phone to boot.
Out of circuit the mobo especially is sensitive to ESD damage. Use your best judgment but more assembled is better than less assembled unless very familiar with the device.
Thanks for the reply! Phone is "drying" for two month now as I was already considering as "lost" after disassembling and no luck with first checks. But before getting the new 6a, I want to give it a last try Was just 7 month old when I dropped it :/
When I plugged the charger in, there was no sign of charging. So not sure if the batterie is broken or if its coming from the board, or both.
A new battery is quite expensive just for a test / to find out more is damaged.
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Thanks for the reply! Phone is "drying" for two month now as I was already considering as "lost" after disassembling and no luck with first checks. But before getting the new 6a, I want to give it a last try Was just 7 month old when I dropped it :/
When I plugged the charger in, there was no sign of charging. So not sure if the batterie is broken or if its coming from the board, or both.
A new battery is quite expensive just for a test / to find out more is damaged.
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If the battery sat near its auto shutdown voltage for 7 months it's DOA.
A charger likely won't supply enough current to boot.
The fact that it does nothing when connected to the charger is a bad sign.
Check for loose connectors, bent connector pins, etc.
Examine the mobo (power section especially) and connector pins closely for corrosion damaged caused by electrolysis.
Since you can't see the BGA pads if there's corrosion there...
Water exposure; power off immediately and pull the battery asap to limit damage. Salt or brine water is a death sentence though.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol is an excellent drying agent but it and any solvents can't be used around LCD's; it will irreversibly poison them.
LCD's are vented to atmosphere on the sides...
blackhawk said:
Water exposure; power off immediately and pull the battery asap to limit damage. Salt or brine water is a death sentence though.
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Thats true, happened at work so I could do anything for the whole day and in the evening it was already dead. With some random screen on and offs during the day and "booting into fast mode" or something similar during the day.
Phone was not reacting to switch it off normally, screen was black and buttons did not react either
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Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol is an excellent drying agent but it and any solvents can't be used around LCD's; it will irreversibly poison them.
LCD's are vented to atmosphere on the sides...
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A thats interesting, I was already thinking that some water went inside the screen. Because I have quite some dark areas on the screen, which increased in size the first days. Looked like water got pulled in. Was hoping that when the phone gets warm again it will disappear...
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The fact that it does nothing when connected to the charger is a bad sign.
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Yeah, have the same feeling. Very unlucky as it was just rain water in a not perfectly closed rain jacket...
Will check the connectors and cables again but was already quite sure that they are all clean
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Thats true, happened at work so I could do anything for the whole day and in the evening it was already dead. With some random screen on and offs during the day and "booting into fast mode" or something similar during the day.
Phone was not reacting to switch it off normally, screen was black and buttons did not react either
A thats interesting, I was already thinking that some water went inside the screen. Because I have quite some dark areas on the screen, which increased in size the first days. Looked like water got pulled in. Was hoping that when the phone gets warm again it will disappear...
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That sucks. Prompt battery disconnect* can save electronics (flooded cars sometimes too).
LCDs are sort of witchy. The spot may or may not disappear over time. Have an old S4 that got sunbaked while charging. The display had multiple issues, barely usable. Thought it had fried drivers. Strangely the longer it sat unused the better it got. 3 years latter it almost 100%.
*Lol, 3 years ago I dropped my Buds case in a full cup of coffee, cream and sugar of course. It promptly sank to the bottom like a lead weight.
The Li is spot welded in. Immediately tore it apart, flushed with RO water, then with anhydrous isopropyl, allowed to dry for a day.
It's still working normally today. A drank that cup of coffee afterwards too
Howdy. I've got a TMo S10e that suffered water intrusion through the SIM slot (failed seal). The phone initially reported that the sd card was removed unsafely, and then mobile data went. I hadn't realized it was water intrusion at that time, as the phone's been really solid all these years. I attempted to reboot to resolve the issues and the phone entered safe mode. Following the on screen instructions I restarted to get out of safe mode. That's when the boot looping started. The phone will start, full screen is visible, safe mode label is visible in the lower left of the screen. After approx 5 seconds the phone will reboot and enter safe mode again, only to repeat the process until the battery is drained. When the battery was initially drained I removed the SIM tray and found the intrusion. Into a bag of rice it went.
After 24 hours in a bag of rice visible condensation (camera lenses, etc) is gone. I attempted to give it a minimal charge to start the phone and on powering up the same boot loop is present. In the 5 seconds before the forced reboot I'm able to swipe up to unlock and enter one digit. I'm guessing that this is moisture in a button or a button contact has been eroded. I'm crossing my fingers that it's not memory corruption. Google backup and SMS Backup had both been failing for months silently, and there is some misc data I'd like to recover that wasn't saved to the removable sd card.
Holding volume down and power should have booted me into recovery I though, but I'm presented with a screen that endlessly prints "SD Card selected by key input" to the screen.
I've done a lot of custom OS installs in years past and while it's been a minute, I've dabbled with adb. I'm hoping that it'll eventually dry out and allow me access, but I'm not holding my breath. Are there any methods that are available to extract data from this phone in this condition?
Rice doesn't work!
Power it down and leave it off.
Remove rear cover and disconnect the battery asap. Powered buses accelerate corrosion, a lot.
Put in adry warm to hot room on it's side with a strong fan on it for at least 48 hours. More is better.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol can be used, carefully, to absorb water. Don't get it in the cams or between the display/glass. Drain it away immediately then dry as above.
Rice did manage to get a fair chunk of the water, but it definitely didn't get it all. All the shops were closed until Monday late morning so it was worth a shot.
Took it to a local shop with a good reputation. They identified the buttons as the issue with safe mode, opened it up and dried out what remained of the water inside and left it open overnight. New buttons were installed the next day and it exited safe mode, connected to wifi and I was able to initiate a backup for the data I couldn't get at via ADB.
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Rice doesn't work!
Power it down and leave it off.
Remove rear cover and disconnect the battery asap. Powered buses accelerate corrosion, a lot.
Put in adry warm to hot room on it's side with a strong fan on it for at least 48 hours. More is better.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol can be used, carefully, to absorb water. Don't get it in the cams or between the display/glass. Drain it away immediately then dry as above.
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Desiccants actually work pretty well, that's the whole idea with the "bag of rice" thing. However, rice can be pretty dusty, which is why I always recommend silica beads instead. Silica rescue packs are available on Amazon.
V0latyle said:
Desiccants actually work pretty well, that's the whole idea with the "bag of rice" thing. However, rice can be pretty dusty, which is why I always recommend silica beads instead. Silica rescue packs are available on Amazon.
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The phone needs to be opened up and the battery disconnected asap.
Passive air circulation is ineffective. Forced warm/hot air is needed. Heat effectively displaces water. The longer it takes to dry, the more corrosion damage. BGA chipsets and the power controller circuit are particularly susceptible. BGA contacts are inaccessible. Ribbon cables may need to be removed; their contacts can also be damaged especially if under power.
I provided the best shot to resolving this problem. Water damage is insidious and the device may fail eventually even if promptly dried. Time is of the essence; sooner is better. Best to pull the battery within minutes of water exposure and start the drying process. AMOLED's will be destroyed if exposed to water vapor.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol carries risks like leaving a residue on the display glass but removes water instantly. Never use methanol alcohol.
Never use isopropyl alcohol or any solvents around LCD displays, it will poison and destroy them.