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My Mom recently got the G2X per my advice, and is complaining about the battery. I can root her device, freeze bloatware, install juicedefender/setcpu, but since she lives out of town, I'm afraid if she wants to exchange the device, it would be difficult to talk her through the unrooting steps.
Should I wait for the GB update and hope the battery gets a major improvement w/o needing to root, or go ahead and root it?
bamabruin said:
My Mom recently got the G2X per my advice, and is complaining about the battery. I can root her device, freeze bloatware, install juicedefender/setcpu, but since she lives out of town, I'm afraid if she wants to exchange the device, it would be difficult to talk her through the unrooting steps.
Should I wait for the GB update and hope the battery gets a major improvement w/o needing to root, or go ahead and root it?
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One fix you could have your mom try is setting the network preference to WCDMA ONLY. If she is in an area that has good/great 4G coverage, she would not have to worry too much about it losing all bars and trying to reduce to 2G as it does by default when set to GSM/WCDMA AUTO.
It's goes against all logic because WCDMA ONLY (4G/3G only) should eat up more battery, but there seems to be some sort of bug that makes it conserve energy when not on auto and not trying to switch back and forth.
Again...maybe give it a try if she has good 4G coverage where she lives, works, plays etc. Since yesterday morning when I first tried this, my battery life went from an average of 5-6 hours, to an average of 12-14 hours. All with fairly heavy use of GPS, WIFI, Web, Calls etc.
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Network Mode > WCDMA ONLY. Reboot device....fingers crossed
Good Luck!!
Wait till GB is your best bet in that situation
I know I dont post on here often but ive had several android devices and this phone is the worst in battery life. Was getting 8 hours, max
What I did that helped was root the phone and inastalled setcpu and changed the default sync times of facebook weather bug e lite ect to two hours and finally I get a full days use. (16) hours or more I still have bluetooth wifi qnd gps on. I hope this helps.
Oh and I do toggle 4g / hspa and edge when I know I wont be around a charger this makes the battery last about 20 hours for me.
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What's your settings for setcpu?
323 min 1k max nvidia tegra 2 for.device selection
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323 min 1k max nvidia tegra 2 for.device selection
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I'm assuming that's screen off correct?
I haven't rooted my phone neither have installed setcpu. I have installed only juice defender and I get more than a day of battery life. I used to get only 6 hours max before.
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Set cpu manages the speed based on demand.
If your talking about battery time then its what I call moderate use of about 40 text and hour of talk time and glancing at engadget.mobile for a couple of minutes.
Not like today im using this thng like crazy and sitting at half battery now . Took off the charger ar 8 and its almost four now
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Do you use SetCPU in conjunction with JuiceDefender, or should it be one or the other?
I am rooted but am running stock, I have juice defender installed and get a full day out of my battery. Unplug at 7am in the morning, moderate use during the day including games, txting, and gaming and then by the time i go to bed at around 11pm or so I am usually down to 20% or so. Juice defender is amazing. According to my battery stats I have been unplugged for 7hrs 27 mins and I am at 80%
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Do you use SetCPU in conjunction with JuiceDefender, or should it be one or the other?
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I use both works great.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me.... "
Finally at 2% battery just to show these mods work
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Yeah...basically what the title says. Wondering if running Juice Defender to turn off my data while the screen is off will block the ota
I doubt it. Juice Defender turns on your mobile data connection at a set interval to allow apps to sync and check for updates.
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cgaw70 said:
You can just uninstall it, it doesnt work after the update. In fact I cant find any battery minder that does work after the update. All I want is a mobile data minder and have tried several but none of them work and I cant find an answer why yet.
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That sucks that it doesn't work. Do the battery life improvements make up for it at all?
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Not even close. I dont know what it is about this phone and me but if I dont turn off mobile data I can leave it in my pocket for 8 hours and its dead. With JD I could at least make it all day. And all im syncing is gmail. I have tried 6 or 8 others and none of them work either, the question is why? They work with other 2.3.3 devices, maybe another hack job of an update?
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Looks like you might be running an app that doesn't give up a partial wake lock (keeps the CPU from sleeping). Use Spare Parts to look at your partial wake locks under battery history. If something is going across the screen, that's your culprit.
Otherwise I have no idea.
Juice Defender is listed as being compatible for 2.3.3. For some reason it keeps throwing error codes. It won't disconnect data when the phone is sleep.
My understand was the 2.3.3 has better battery life. That is certainly not the case for me. Its the same as 2.2 for me - 4 hours and done.
Same here. Juice Defender is not working after the update...
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Thanks for the tip. I DL spare parts and everything works except when I try to view battery history I get a force close every time. WTF
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Hmm, that's not cool. You might want to grab a version off of a google search. The one in the market is a modified version of Google's free spare parts app that includes ads I believe.
According to spare Parts, stock GB ROM do not have battery history, so that explains why you are FC when attempting to view it
I dont remember if JD requires root, if it doesnt and your rooted, then root will block the update
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Hey there im brand new to this forum and android in general i just sitched from an iphone to the Lg G2x. I have to say the G2x is incredible but my battery life isn't i get on average 5 to 6 hrs of battery life (lose about 20% every hour) as others i have installed juice defender ultimate, setcpu, and watchdog. In addition to all these apps i uninstalled apps like T-mobile app pack and wifi calling because these apparently use up a lot of battery. So my question is if there any tips you guys can give me or setting for my phone or apps because maybe i have everything i need installed but with the wrong settings any help at all would be great thank you in advance
Info that might help:
As of now the juice defender app reports: 1.36x improvement
Well im assuming your running stock ROM and kernel...so the best and easiest thing i can tell you is just buy an extended battery ....they last alot longer, if you get the right one...
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Are you using the phone constantly?
Mixalot213 said:
Hey there im brand new to this forum and android in general i just sitched from an iphone to the Lg G2x. I have to say the G2x is incredible but my battery life isn't i get on average 5 to 6 hrs of battery life (lose about 20% every hour) as others i have installed juice defender ultimate, setcpu, and watchdog. In addition to all these apps i uninstalled apps like T-mobile app pack and wifi calling because these apparently use up a lot of battery. So my question is if there any tips you guys can give me or setting for my phone or apps because maybe i have everything i need installed but with the wrong settings any help at all would be great thank you in advance
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As of now the juice defender app reports: 1.36x improvement
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Download spare parts, go to battery history, and look at partial wake lock.
If you see a bar going across the screen or even most of the way, that's your culprit.
Also games like Words With Friends kills battery life with its polling service.
@Texan28
Well idk i tried to post pictures to display all that info but since im a new member i cant post links to pictures yet and well how much are they because ive heard there rather expensive
@ enoch861
No i would say average use most of the time just texting (usually is periodic not constant) , very little email checking and little or no facebook use but most of the time the phone is just sitting like for example right now Cell Stanby is at:49% and phone idle at 52% personally i think its to high but idk is that normal?
@Scyth3
Installed the app but no apps seem to be giving trouble all that have a status bar are very small
Once you've confirmed that you're not seeing any rogue app activity then uninstall watchdog. You don't need an app monitor or task killer running constantly on your phone.
Turn off auto brightness and set screen brightness somewhere around 20-25%. Under Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wifi Settings > *Press Menu* > Advanced Settings change wifi sleep policy to never. Turn wifi off when you're not going to be connected to a wifi network. Set your email/Facebook/twitter/weather/etc apps to sync either manually or at least less frequently.
Your biggest battery killers are going to be your screen brightness and your cellular radio. Juice defender can help control some of the cell radio by keeping data turned off when you don't need it. Also consider if you have poor signal your phone might also be always switching from 4G to 2G then it'll use more battery.
Don't bother with disabling GPS. Your phone only uses it when an app needs it anyway.
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Also, I'm assuming you've rooted your phone since you said you've removed wifi calling and other T-Mobile stuff. In that case, open setcpu and create a couple of profiles. Create a Screen Off profile with max/min values of 312/216MHz. Also create an In Call profile with max/min values of 1000/216 and set the priority slider higher than the screen off profile. I do this because when the screen goes off during a phone call I still want my phone to have plenty of processor power available. And I don't set it lower than 1000 because I'm often doing other things with my phone while I'm on a call.
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Then there's something wrong with your phone or a rogue app. I text a lot also and use my phone moderately to heavily. But I still get a whole day of use from the phone. Its surprising.
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@phburks I Actually have those settings on my phone however the setcpu i dont because i cant set those numbers for some reason it only lets me set default for example it goes from 245MHz to 384MHz (on the sliding adjuster)
@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?
No sir. Not that I know of.
But I would try to do a reset of the phone first anand run it a couple of days without really installing anything. If you get better battery life then it could be due to an app that you had installed. At that point you can start reinstalling your Apps one at a time in order of importance.
Now of that doesn't fix it, it could be a hardware issue.
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@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?
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Mixalot213 said:
@phburks I Actually have those settings on my phone however the setcpu i dont because i cant set those numbers for some reason it only lets me set default for example it goes from 245MHz to 384MHz (on the sliding adjuster)
@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?
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In setcpu have you tried hitting Menu > Device Selection and then selecting the Tegra 2 option at the top? You might have it set up for the wrong device.
As for the battery life in general, 5-6 hours on light to moderate usage as you described is not normal for this phone. When I was on my stock rom unrooted I could still get at least 10-12 good hours and I use my phone a lot, mostly for texting and web browsing.
Are you in an area with weak cell signal?
Are there any other preinstalled apps from T-Mobile that are still installed?
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@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
@phburks
ok thnx i fixed the setcpu settings and no not really but idk if having in on a gsm carrier(Simple Mobile) makes a difference but yea thats why im trying to get this fixed because 5-6 hrs is really not enough i mean if i can at least get it to 10-12 hrs id be happy with that its great improvement and um well just google maps, news and weather, smarshare, talk, telenav, voicew search, youtube etc the only ones i made sure to get rid of was t-mobile app pack and wifi calling
It shouldn't unroot it.
what do you mean by relock?
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@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
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Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
@phburks
ok thnx i fixed the setcpu settings and no not really but idk if having in on a gsm carrier(Simple Mobile) makes a difference but yea thats why im trying to get this fixed because 5-6 hrs is really not enough i mean if i can at least get it to 10-12 hrs id be happy with that its great improvement and um well just google maps, news and weather, smarshare, talk, telenav, voicew search, youtube etc the only ones i made sure to get rid of was t-mobile app pack and wifi calling
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I'd get rid of telenav too.
As for a reset, do you have clockworkmod recovery installed? Just boot into that and do a full reset. You wont lose root but you WILL lose any apps you installed, personal settings, text messages.
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@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
@phburks
i actually dont but as long as my phone remains unlocked and rooted im willing to try resetting it after all ove heard good things about it helping with battery life but can you walk me through it?
No. It shouldn't.
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@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
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Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
@phburks
i actually dont but as long as my phone remains unlocked and rooted im willing to try resetting it after all ove heard good things about it helping with battery life but can you walk me through it?
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If by unlocking you mean the SIM being unlocked to work on other cell networks, then you have nothing to worry about. A factory reset wont mess with that
As for performing a factory reset, go into Settings > Privacy and choose Factory Data Reset. Make sure you back up any texts/MMS you want to keep. All personal files/photos on your sdcard will be preserved but you'll have to reinstall any apps you want.
Since you still have stock recovery you can also power off the phone and then hold Volume Down + Power for like 10 or more seconds till you see the Android unpacking icon, and it will reset that way.
It shouldn't mess with root.
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If your phone's rooted, which it seems to be, download the battery calibration app from the market. It's free, and helped my battery life immensely. Basically charge it up to 100%, use the app. It deletes the battery stats file so android can make a new one. Run it all the way down to empty, then charge it back up to 100% and you should be good to go.
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If your phone's rooted, which it seems to be, download the battery calibration app from the market. It's free, and helped my battery life immensely. Basically charge it up to 100%, use the app. It deletes the battery stats file so android can make a new one. Run it all the way down to empty, then charge it back up to 100% and you should be good to go.
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how exactly is a program that measures the battery helping the battery life?
OP, I am using Xboarders latest 2.3.3 rom and have had the phone on 9 hours and am at 70%. I use set cpu to slow down teh processor when the screen is off and I use juice defender to turn off data, wifi, etc when the screen is off.
@ enoch861 thanks thats a relief
@phburks thanks im gonna go ahead and try it by the way when i perform it is there anything i should be doing or avoid doing (For example removieng certain apps or anything like that ?)
@Danishswag Tried it already it didnt help
Am I the only one who's got worse battery life since the update?
I keep my brightness set low, bluetooth and GPS are off. My mail and Twitter are set to update manually. Weather updates every four hours, and I use only a few widgets (the weather clock and a few that toggle settings). I've got a solid LTE signal.
Before the update (and even after the 2.11.605.3 Gingerbread update that I'd got before Verizon and HTC pulled it), I could take my phone off the charger when I woke up, use it moderately, and still be in the green when I'd put it back on the charger at bed time. If I used it a bit more, maybe I'd be in the yellow, but I'd never had a problem going 18 hours or so on a single full charge.
Since the update, though, my phone can't get through a day without recharging in the middle. Even if I don't use it. Just sitting on my desk, untouched, I'm losing about 11% an hour.
Chances are the phone will re adjust through battery cycles. Also there are power saving options now if you go to the power setting. The efficiency setting works very well. Other than that I would wait a little longer before going about any tinkering.
And one more thing. You don't have a task manager do you? If so get rid of it. Android is incredibly efficient on managing its ram and tasks.
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LTE? You're running 4G all the time? I wouldn't make it past late afternoon if I didn't toggle the LTE off most of the time and use CMDA (3G).
I'm stock and also having horrible battery life since the last update. Like 5 hours worth of battery with little use before I'm in the yellow. I'm giving up on 4G and switching over to 3G for good... maybe that will last longer as it did in the past
I'm tempted to do a factory reset
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I'm stock and also having horrible battery life since the last update. Like 5 hours worth of battery with little use before I'm in the yellow. I'm giving up on 4G and switching over to 3G for good... maybe that will last longer as it did in the past
I'm tempted to do a factory reset
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If my assumption is wrong on your knowledge of factory resets, i apologize and i'm not trying to insult your knowledge of these phones. That being said, factory reset won't allow you to revert to pre 605.5 software, as it just wipes the data completely and you stay on the same 605.5 you are on. If you are rooted already, make a backup and flash back an older release of the software that you are happy with. If you aren't rooted, now is a good time and then to revert back to past software haha
Hmm..sounds like someone should get an extended battery.I have one and never had a problem before or after gb.
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If my assumption is wrong on your knowledge of factory resets, i apologize and i'm not trying to insult your knowledge of these phones. That being said, factory reset won't allow you to revert to pre 605.5 software, as it just wipes the data completely and you stay on the same 605.5 you are on. If you are rooted already, make a backup and flash back an older release of the software that you are happy with. If you aren't rooted, now is a good time and then to revert back to past software haha
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Insult not taken... I'm well aware of what a factory reset is. And I don't care to root - been rooted before. Battery was much better before... so I figure its probably an app causing the drain - not playing nice with the update. A reset could remedy that.
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holla420 said:
Hmm..sounds like someone should get an extended battery.I have one and never had a problem before or after gb.
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Unfortunately, I don't care to have that over grown tumor on the back of my phone. My battery has been fine before so I know it's possible to use the stock battery and have it last throughout the day.
Lol well suit urself.I don't kno why a lot of people hate it.I mean besides the phat ass on the back it last 16+ hrz.but Wat ever floats ur boat
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And one more thing. You don't have a task manager do you?
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Nope. Never have, never will. I'll give it a few more days and see if, as you suggest, the battery doesn't readjust.
LTE? You're running 4G all the time? I wouldn't make it past late afternoon if I didn't toggle the LTE off most of the time and use CMDA (3G).
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Yep. The area I'm in (just east of Pittsburgh) seems to have good coverage. I've never had to manually turn off LTE, and until the last update, I've never had trouble making it through the day.
Hmm..sounds like someone should get an extended battery.I have one and never had a problem before or after gb.
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Unfortunately, I don't care to have that over grown tumor on the back of my phone. My battery has been fine before so I know it's possible to use the stock battery and have it last throughout the day.
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I'm with mdeblaz. Getting through the day on the stock battery hasn't been an issue until the update. And I'll buy a new phone before I buy a ginormous battery for this one. I've had a couple of HTC phones now, and the Thunderbolt has been the most problematic for me. Maybe I'll sell it back to Verizon and get the Rezound. If the battery issue doesn't clear up on it's own, it's either going to be new phone or (for the first time since I started using Android phones) flashing a new ROM.
Anyone know a good Gingerbread ROM for the Thunderbolt that has Sense 3? I know I'm a minority, but I keep buying HTC phones because I actually like Sense.
BAMF Forever 1.09.
You may have an issue with the camera taking pics, try clearing data from the camera app. Like having a new phone for me.
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collije said:
BAMF Forever 1.09.
You may have an issue with the camera taking pics, try clearing data from the camera app. Like having a new phone for me.
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That one looks pretty good. Is LTE working in it? Is it ok to use over the current stock software? Any guides for noobs who have never even rooted, let alone installed a custom ROM?
mikeszekely said:
That one looks pretty good. Is LTE working in it? Is it ok to use over the current stock software? Any guides for noobs who have never even rooted, let alone installed a custom ROM?
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Some advice for noobs. Read read read. Do your homework. Read through the guides and walkthroughs on this forum (mainly in the development section). Learn now to root and learn how to recover BEFORE attempting to mod your phone in any way. Learn how to setup and use ADB.
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And it seem its cycling through 3g, 4g, 1x, again. Why can't HTC get this right wtf.
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As killa just said do read.
Going root is probably the only way to fix the thunderbolts stock problems.
I have had mine rooted since it was rootable and I have been loving my phone. I also use the stock battery and can get over 18 hours daily with wifi on at all times, lte and GPS when I'm not home. Those are the wonders of custom kernals and setcpu . I run AOSP but I have ran sense and Bamf forever is definitely the way to go for sense.
Good luck.
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I'm having no problems with data connectivity on 2.11.605.5 perhaps your area is having network problems...
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so i did the ota update to gingerbread and now my barnacle wifi tether doesnt work. when i try to run the app it shows an error saying the DCHP port is already in use and in the notification tray the little white tethering icon pops up. so it seems to me that the phone tries to launch the built-in tethering app that you have to pay verizon for. i tried using app quarantine but that doesnt even recognize the app/setting so idk how to turn it off.
if i switch to a custom rom would that eliminate that stock app and the issue?
So - you had Barnacle working on your D2G?? My computer would connect, but would not 'see' any internet connection. Also barnacle would not list any clients when my computer was connected. When I went to uninstall, I noticed that the app was for EVO... I never tried/knew the app existed before the OTA update to GB. I have also noticed that half the reviews say 'does not work on D2G' so I'm wondering what the difference is between this phone and every other Android phone on earth and if anyone is working on a fix??
yea i had used it for quite some time, with ipods and computers. it was a life saver on road trips. i dont remember when i downloaded it but i never noticed anyone saying it didnt work or that it was just for the evo. and i got mine straight from the market too.
but yea this ota update screwed it up with the built-in app/settings. i dont know any way to fix it so i posted this in hopes that someone can program a workaround or something. im also gonna check out other roms. the pros of gb outweigh this problem so i dont wanna switch back to froyo
ok so i tried the Venus rom and that didnt work either. it has the same stupid vzw tether app that gets in the way. to me it looks like any GB based rom is outta the question, unless they found a way to remove that app. im back on the stock froyo (had some stupid issues with SBF that wasted a lot of time) i guess ill live with bad battery life and wait to update to GB when this gets fixed
There is no “stupid Verizon app” anywhere. There's the baseband (radio firmware) which does that.
i just call it that cuz its frustrating. and are you saying there is no way to get rid of this or work around it??
There were threads on how to alter baseband settings to make tethering work; I can't really find one right now, but I'm sure I saw them either in this forum section, or in droidforums' D2G section.
So it's a radio firmware that tells the app to take control? hmm. I'll look around for something as well for the D2G. I'll post any results. But yes as for now i downgraded to 2.2 again. need my tethering. #against the system.
Look into Open Garden. It is another tethering app (free in market)
D2G running Hexen(Final)(Froyo)
Does it work on ginger bread thou?
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Its free. Download it and try...
D2G running Hexen(Final)(Froyo)
Made the leap to CM7GB and can confirm, Open Garden on cm7gb works great. Free in the market...
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