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[Q] Am I Stock?

How do I tell if my phone is 100% stock? I got my Nexus S secondhand, and just wanted to be sure. My phone is on Android 2.3.6.
Thanks! Sorry for the noob question...

Does it boot with an unlocked padlock under google? If so the bootloader is unlocked. Try root checker to check for root. Compare software version with stock roms listed here.
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Jacobspoirier said:
How do I tell if my phone is 100% stock? I got my Nexus S secondhand, and just wanted to be sure. My phone is on Android 2.3.6.
Thanks! Sorry for the noob question...
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When you power on your phone you see the Google logo. If there is a padlock symbol at the bottom of the screen then it more than likely is not stock of has been rooted in the past.
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check those things already mentioned, but chances are you are stock. 2.3.6 has been out for about a week. The update caused problems with tethering and did not fix a fairly major bug (Search bug). For those who know how to modify the phone, these issues can be overcome. Because of this, I suspect that you got sold the phone because the original owner did not want to deal with the issues

Just to make it clear, a locked bootloader (no lock icon when booting) doesn't mean the phone is stock, it just means you can't apply a new recovery until the bootloader is unlocked (again).

True
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Looks like a Verizon S3 ota update is imminent

Nothing too earth shattering if you read the official statement from Verizon, but may have a fix for those with SIM troubles.
http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxys3.html
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon-galaxy-s-iii-update-incoming-with-plenty-of-fixes-20120914/
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What is the difference between this update and the one in the other thread?

[email protected] said:
What is the difference between this update and the one in the other thread?
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Same update

+ Enhanced Customer Support with Verizon Remote Diagnostics.
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I hope this feature will get stripped out of the custom rom's. I don't want Verizon to be able to snoop on my device.

guyd said:
I hope this feature will get stripped out of the custom rom's. I don't want Verizon to be able to snoop on my device.
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+1

Yes our device as we own it...Verizon acts as they own our device just because we're on their network.their secretly trying to chain US down with this update trying to gather info lol........
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The update is now available. I just checked and I can install it now.
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installed and not noticing any difference, no new options or apps. ill do some tests with wifi because that is what i care most about being fixed.

xceebeex said:
The update is now available. I just checked and I can install it now.
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But, if we are rooted, we don't want to update. Right? Thank-you

right, the safest way to update is to restore back to stock, stock kernel, and DEFINITELY re-lock your bootloader if you have it unlocked.

Judeeg said:
But, if we are rooted, we don't want to update. Right? Thank-you
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I am rooted and I just got an update message. Not sure if I should update I don't want to break root. Has anyone else installed this on a rooted device and can comment on this?

foocankill said:
right, the safest way to update is to restore back to stock, stock kernel, and DEFINITELY re-lock your bootloader if you have it unlocked.
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Can you re-root? Just want to know if the root exploits available still work despite the new update.

foocankill said:
right, the safest way to update is to restore back to stock, stock kernel, and DEFINITELY re-lock your bootloader if you have it unlocked.
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Thanks so much. I will probably skip this one then. Sounds like a lot of trouble. lol Have a great week-end!
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I am rooted and I just got an update message. Not sure if I should update I don't want to break root. Has anyone else installed this on a rooted device and can comment on this?
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I wouldn't do it if I were you. Not while rooted....Can brick your phone I heard.

Do not update if u are rooted.

Well if you can't update while rooted, what are you supposed to do if it auto updates? I was just sitting in bed and noticed that my notification went off on my phone and not on my tablet (meaning not email). I checked the phone and if I hadn't noticed it would have auto updated and I am rooted on stock. It said the update would start in 3 minutes after I heard the notification. I deferred until tomorrow and have my phone how I want it, so I really don't want to go back to stock. I suppose I could make a nandroid.
It really scares me though that Verizon almost pushed an update that could have potentially bricked my phone. I don't think that is right, quite honestly.
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For those rooted who don't want the update now here ya go
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bitrifle.otablocker
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Hulk0069 said:
For those rooted who don't want the update now here ya go
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bitrifle.otablocker
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Is this legit? I would love to do this because I am worried about the auto-updating. I do not want to restore to stock at all.
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I'm using it,I paid for it.so I'm hoping it is legit.seems to be.
Before installing this app,I noticed my phone said downloading vzw update, which I didn't want so I quickly turn mobile data off, search the market for a ota blocker saw this installed enabled and haven't been botherd yet. THIS APP IS ONLY FOR VZW S3 PHONES!! Sorry don't mean to yell lol.
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It tried to update mine and failed as cwm is my recovery but it keeps trying just deferred I'm going for the play store app screw this commie crap. Oh says error 410 prob informs big red I'm rooted w custom recovery and will bill one million dollars .... no make that a billion.. hmmmm
s3 driving an S4

Hulk0069 said:
I'm using it,I paid for it.so I'm hoping it is legit.seems to be.
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O didn't notice it was a paid app because I am on my tablet right now. Hmm. Will have to get out of bed to see if the price is worth it or if I can just defer again. It asked me for an update time and I said 1230pm.
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Just got the update

Is there anything other than bug fixes in this one?
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Can you still root and unlock?
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Hulk0069 said:
Can you still root and unlock?
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I'm pretty sure it breaks the ability to unlock the bootloader. Root may still be possible though.

xliderider said:
I'm pretty sure it breaks the ability to unlock the bootloader. Root may still be possible though.
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Proof that it breaks bootloader unlock ability?

I'm curious about this too. I'd like to root. But I have the new update installed now.
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Don't know about boot loader, just got the update at work. Don't notice anything different on the surface...but didn't expect too.
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I'm testing root and unlock now via casual. Will follow up.
EDIT: CWM flash was good. Casual said it unlocked. I'm downloading the app to relock/unlock to verify that functionality. Then I'm going to try flashing CM10
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Success! I am now on CM10 on new OTA update. No worries folks. New bootloader can still be flashed to unsecure, can still be rooted.

Goose306 said:
I'm testing root and unlock now via casual. Will follow up.
EDIT: CWM flash was good. Casual said it unlocked. I'm downloading the app to relock/unlock to verify that functionality. Then I'm going to try flashing CM10
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Success! I am now on CM10 on new OTA update. No worries folks. New bootloader can still be flashed to unsecure, can still be rooted.
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Doh!
Well, in that case, I guess I didn't need to hurry and root/unlock just now in the fear that I'd be blocked off forever.
Oh well, I really didn't want that "remote access" app anywhere near my phone.

I was able to update to the new OTA and keep Root/Bootloader Unlocked using The Mobile Odin Pro App.

By the way, no surprise but they did in fact "dumb down"on device searching.
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I'd like to confirm. I am on the new update. Not rooted.
So can I root?
can I unlock?
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jkbane said:
I'd like to confirm. I am on the new update. Not rooted.
So can I root?
can I unlock?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31599218&postcount=7
Yes.

Not giving Verizon more power, they tried to sneak this download at 230am if I wasn't up my phone may have taken it, either way we should be given the choice if we want this dl.as for a diagnostic tool we have the xda forums which in my option is better then Verizon help..ex.my phone txt/call not working...Verizon: did you try a factory reset?....my volume on my phone is way to low..Verizon: did you try a factory reset...I wanna change the led to fit the msg to my liking not working right.Verizon: did you try a factory reset?....this is what they use to tell me when I had a problem years ago, but now I look to the xda forum for advice, input, help,options. so I'll stay clear from Verizon helping me..lol this has been just a little example.from your neighbor hood friendly hulk...
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Goose306 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31599218&postcount=7
Yes.
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Would like to see some more confirmations on this. I am stock unrooted right now and very tempted to root and unlock unless the update proves true like you said. Wonder if anyone else has tried it.....Appreciate your feedback though, you are first!

[email protected] said:
Would like to see some more confirmations on this. I am stock unrooted right now and very tempted to root and unlock unless the update proves true like you said. Wonder if anyone else has tried it.....Appreciate your feedback though, you are first!
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I can confirm 100% you will have no issues with it. I look like a newbish person here as I don't come on xda much. I just thought I'd spread the love over here. I'm usually over @ Rootz.
http://rootzwiki.com/user/19244-goose306/
I don't like to pull this card, but hopefully you see I have enough reps over there to at least know what I'm talking about
That being said all its going to really do is give you a better radio and patch the no sim issue, and install more bloat (Verizon Remote Access) and dumb down your search abilities. So its about 50/50 as far as benefits. But if you don't like it you can ODIN back to previous firmware versions anyways, so it really isn't that big of a deal. The best benefit you could have would be to root it, unlock it, block the OTA, then install the new radio separately. This will get you the benefit of the new radio and patching the no sim error but without the new Verizon bloat and without the neutered search capability. Best of both worlds.
If you plan on flashing ROMs about the only thing you will be keeping from this OTA going forward will be the new radio. So it doesn't really make a lick of difference either way as the radio can be flashed separately as discussed.

Goose306 said:
I can confirm 100% you will have no issues with it. I look like a newbish person here as I don't come on xda much. I just thought I'd spread the love over here. I'm usually over @ Rootz.
http://rootzwiki.com/user/19244-goose306/
I don't like to pull this card, but hopefully you see I have enough reps over there to at least know what I'm talking about
That being said all its going to really do is give you a better radio and patch the no sim issue, and install more bloat (Verizon Remote Access) and dumb down your search abilities. So its about 50/50 as far as benefits. But if you don't like it you can ODIN back to previous firmware versions anyways, so it really isn't that big of a deal. The best benefit you could have would be to root it, unlock it, block the OTA, then install the new radio separately. This will get you the benefit of the new radio and patching the no sim error but without the new Verizon bloat and without the neutered search capability. Best of both worlds.
If you plan on flashing ROMs about the only thing you will be keeping from this OTA going forward will be the new radio. So it doesn't really make a lick of difference either way as the radio can be flashed separately as discussed.
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Thanks, I said f'k it and rooted and unlocked. Don't plan on flashing anything now because am really enjoying this Rom stock but when we get a Verizon JB leak I want to make sure I can install it. We will probably see a leak months before a release.

Had anyone seen any improvement with the new radio as of yet, I know it's a bit early to tell really but, well...you know.
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I've noticed a little better signal,9 point difference it's only been about 4hrs tho.
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update?
CM10

So all previous rooting/unlocking methods work with the latest ota stock installed on my s3?
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Galaxy S3 Developer Edition Finally Released Lol

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/2...finally-up-for-sale-starting-at-599-for-16gb/
I think they are a little late to the party haha.

I don't know if this means anything since we are unlocked but since Dev version has truly unlocked bootloader can't we pull it to ours
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mikeew83 said:
I don't know if this means anything since we are unlocked but since Dev version has truly unlocked bootloader can't we pull it to ours
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+1

Haha it's weird seeing this now cuz at one point I actually considered returning my phone for this infamous developer edition. I'm so glad I didn't bite the bullet like others did and return mine.

Guess it took Samsung a while to finally figure out how to unlock it's bootloader. They should have just come to XDA if they needed help.

mikeew83 said:
I don't know if this means anything since we are unlocked but since Dev version has truly unlocked bootloader can't we pull it to ours
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we have a truly unlocked bootloader aswell...its no different.

Ok wasn't sure just a thought then
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mikeew83 said:
Ok wasn't sure just a thought then
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no your fine...one thing this might help with is unlocking wcdma 1900 band so you can use this device on domestic gsm networks. our device current state is a insecure aboot, but there a still signature verification checks being performed before the insecure aboot.img loads. meaning our bootloader is unlocked yes, but the device is not fully unlocked..hince why it still shows "secure boot enabled" in odin mode.

droidstyle said:
we have a truly unlocked bootloader aswell...its no different.
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Well, like you said yourself above our aboot.img is truly unlocked, but the phone isn't because of secure boot. All the other versions on other carriers are truly unlocked, but ours isn't, which is why we are unable to flash cross-carrier modems like they can on AT&T or t-mo. I just posted on the wcdma 1900 bounty thread that the dev version could be used to unlock that frequency band if the hardware is there. I truly wish we could disable secure boot, then we could basically do anything we want with this phone. We still have a partially disabled, but unlocked phone.

And according to Android Central they are on backorder. Looks like three people bought one !

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And according to Android Central they are on backorder. Looks like three people bought one !
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I mean buying that one makes sense if your buying an sgs3 either way, out of contract, am I wrong?

ericerk said:
I mean buying that one makes sense if your buying an sgs3 either way, out of contract, am I wrong?
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You're a 100% right, I don't know why you wouldn't.

I bet they took a bunch of stock s3s and used an xda tool to unlock the bootloader....

Lol! Cracked me up.
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I wonder if it still has all the Verizon crapware installed on it if it comes directly from Samsung or if there are features in it that were removed from the regular Verizon version (IE: Samsung Dive, etc.)

I hope that they release a tool to wipe it back to stock like google does with their nexus line (I'm talking images)
Also Hoping it will work with the normal SGS3's

I'm pretty sure running a custom rom on this still voids your warranty.

Kind surprised we don't have a dump yet...:'(
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I'm pretty sure running a custom rom on this still voids your warranty.
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Running a custom Rom does not void your warranty. Being stupid enough to take it to Verizon or send it to Samsung with a custom Rom voids your warranty.
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xsteven77x said:
Running a custom Rom does not void your warranty. Being stupid enough to take it to Verizon or send it to Samsung with a custom Rom voids your warranty.
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IIRC the warranty is automatically voided on the dev edition once custom software is loaded or 30 days is reached (whichever happens first).

LMAO
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Kind surprised we don't have a dump yet...:'(
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Running a custom Rom does not void your warranty. Being stupid enough to take it to Verizon or send it to Samsung with a custom Rom voids your warranty.
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Thanks for the laugh!

[Q] Back to Verizon

I was recently informed that I might be able to get into the Edge Program with Verizon and have run into a dilemma. I am obviously rooted and cannot return my phone to my phone as is but if I am accepted into the program I will most likely have to trade my S3 in for whatever other phone I want. I have found other topics but haven't really gotten an updated answer. I need to flash my phone back to stock so I can potentially return it but all of these other rest guides don't tell me how to get the 4.3 update that the GS3 officially comes with if you were to buy it today from Verizon. Any help here?

roghitmanx47 said:
I was recently informed that I might be able to get into the Edge Program with Verizon and have run into a dilemma. I am obviously rooted and cannot return my phone to my phone as is but if I am accepted into the program I will most likely have to trade my S3 in for whatever other phone I want. I have found other topics but haven't really gotten an updated answer. I need to flash my phone back to stock so I can potentially return it but all of these other rest guides don't tell me how to get the 4.3 update that the GS3 officially comes with if you were to buy it today from Verizon. Any help here?
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But what if I am ineligible for the Edge and want to return back to root? This is telling me my bootloader will then be locked forever.

roghitmanx47 said:
But what if I am ineligible for the Edge and want to return back to root? This is telling me my bootloader will then be locked forever.
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You asked how to get to 4.3 as of it were Ota'd by Verizon, that's the 4.3 update.
You can reroot but you can't unlock the bootloader, you should make sure you're eligible first before you flash that.
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You asked how to get to 4.3 as of it were Ota'd by Verizon, that's the 4.3 update.
You can reroot but you can't unlock the bootloader, you should make sure you're eligible first before you flash that.
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Ok sounds good, thank you! Another quick question though, is there even a point to re-rooting but having a locked bootloader? Or is rooting again useless after that?

roghitmanx47 said:
Ok sounds good, thank you! Another quick question though, is there even a point to re-rooting but having a locked bootloader? Or is rooting again useless after that?
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You still have options, If you want to know everything about the update and what you can do with it Check out the sticky in the development section.
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Ok! Thank you very much!