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Does Juice Defender block the OTA?

Yeah...basically what the title says. Wondering if running Juice Defender to turn off my data while the screen is off will block the ota

I doubt it. Juice Defender turns on your mobile data connection at a set interval to allow apps to sync and check for updates.
G2X CM7

cgaw70 said:
You can just uninstall it, it doesnt work after the update. In fact I cant find any battery minder that does work after the update. All I want is a mobile data minder and have tried several but none of them work and I cant find an answer why yet.
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That sucks that it doesn't work. Do the battery life improvements make up for it at all?

cgaw70 said:
Not even close. I dont know what it is about this phone and me but if I dont turn off mobile data I can leave it in my pocket for 8 hours and its dead. With JD I could at least make it all day. And all im syncing is gmail. I have tried 6 or 8 others and none of them work either, the question is why? They work with other 2.3.3 devices, maybe another hack job of an update?
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Looks like you might be running an app that doesn't give up a partial wake lock (keeps the CPU from sleeping). Use Spare Parts to look at your partial wake locks under battery history. If something is going across the screen, that's your culprit.
Otherwise I have no idea.

Juice Defender is listed as being compatible for 2.3.3. For some reason it keeps throwing error codes. It won't disconnect data when the phone is sleep.
My understand was the 2.3.3 has better battery life. That is certainly not the case for me. Its the same as 2.2 for me - 4 hours and done.

Same here. Juice Defender is not working after the update...

cgaw70 said:
Thanks for the tip. I DL spare parts and everything works except when I try to view battery history I get a force close every time. WTF
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Hmm, that's not cool. You might want to grab a version off of a google search. The one in the market is a modified version of Google's free spare parts app that includes ads I believe.

According to spare Parts, stock GB ROM do not have battery history, so that explains why you are FC when attempting to view it

I dont remember if JD requires root, if it doesnt and your rooted, then root will block the update
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[Q] Help with battery Life on my Lg G2x Please! (without updating the phone)

Hey there im brand new to this forum and android in general i just sitched from an iphone to the Lg G2x. I have to say the G2x is incredible but my battery life isn't i get on average 5 to 6 hrs of battery life (lose about 20% every hour) as others i have installed juice defender ultimate, setcpu, and watchdog. In addition to all these apps i uninstalled apps like T-mobile app pack and wifi calling because these apparently use up a lot of battery. So my question is if there any tips you guys can give me or setting for my phone or apps because maybe i have everything i need installed but with the wrong settings any help at all would be great thank you in advance
Info that might help:
As of now the juice defender app reports: 1.36x improvement

Well im assuming your running stock ROM and kernel...so the best and easiest thing i can tell you is just buy an extended battery ....they last alot longer, if you get the right one...
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Are you using the phone constantly?
Mixalot213 said:
Hey there im brand new to this forum and android in general i just sitched from an iphone to the Lg G2x. I have to say the G2x is incredible but my battery life isn't i get on average 5 to 6 hrs of battery life (lose about 20% every hour) as others i have installed juice defender ultimate, setcpu, and watchdog. In addition to all these apps i uninstalled apps like T-mobile app pack and wifi calling because these apparently use up a lot of battery. So my question is if there any tips you guys can give me or setting for my phone or apps because maybe i have everything i need installed but with the wrong settings any help at all would be great thank you in advance
Info that might help:
As of now the juice defender app reports: 1.36x improvement
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Download spare parts, go to battery history, and look at partial wake lock.
If you see a bar going across the screen or even most of the way, that's your culprit.
Also games like Words With Friends kills battery life with its polling service.

@Texan28
Well idk i tried to post pictures to display all that info but since im a new member i cant post links to pictures yet and well how much are they because ive heard there rather expensive
@ enoch861
No i would say average use most of the time just texting (usually is periodic not constant) , very little email checking and little or no facebook use but most of the time the phone is just sitting like for example right now Cell Stanby is at:49% and phone idle at 52% personally i think its to high but idk is that normal?
@Scyth3
Installed the app but no apps seem to be giving trouble all that have a status bar are very small

Once you've confirmed that you're not seeing any rogue app activity then uninstall watchdog. You don't need an app monitor or task killer running constantly on your phone.
Turn off auto brightness and set screen brightness somewhere around 20-25%. Under Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wifi Settings > *Press Menu* > Advanced Settings change wifi sleep policy to never. Turn wifi off when you're not going to be connected to a wifi network. Set your email/Facebook/twitter/weather/etc apps to sync either manually or at least less frequently.
Your biggest battery killers are going to be your screen brightness and your cellular radio. Juice defender can help control some of the cell radio by keeping data turned off when you don't need it. Also consider if you have poor signal your phone might also be always switching from 4G to 2G then it'll use more battery.
Don't bother with disabling GPS. Your phone only uses it when an app needs it anyway.
G2X CM7

Also, I'm assuming you've rooted your phone since you said you've removed wifi calling and other T-Mobile stuff. In that case, open setcpu and create a couple of profiles. Create a Screen Off profile with max/min values of 312/216MHz. Also create an In Call profile with max/min values of 1000/216 and set the priority slider higher than the screen off profile. I do this because when the screen goes off during a phone call I still want my phone to have plenty of processor power available. And I don't set it lower than 1000 because I'm often doing other things with my phone while I'm on a call.
G2X CM7

Then there's something wrong with your phone or a rogue app. I text a lot also and use my phone moderately to heavily. But I still get a whole day of use from the phone. Its surprising.
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@phburks I Actually have those settings on my phone however the setcpu i dont because i cant set those numbers for some reason it only lets me set default for example it goes from 245MHz to 384MHz (on the sliding adjuster)
@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?

No sir. Not that I know of.
But I would try to do a reset of the phone first anand run it a couple of days without really installing anything. If you get better battery life then it could be due to an app that you had installed. At that point you can start reinstalling your Apps one at a time in order of importance.
Now of that doesn't fix it, it could be a hardware issue.
Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?
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Mixalot213 said:
@phburks I Actually have those settings on my phone however the setcpu i dont because i cant set those numbers for some reason it only lets me set default for example it goes from 245MHz to 384MHz (on the sliding adjuster)
@enoch861 really is there any tests i can run to find out whats really wrong?
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In setcpu have you tried hitting Menu > Device Selection and then selecting the Tegra 2 option at the top? You might have it set up for the wrong device.
As for the battery life in general, 5-6 hours on light to moderate usage as you described is not normal for this phone. When I was on my stock rom unrooted I could still get at least 10-12 good hours and I use my phone a lot, mostly for texting and web browsing.
Are you in an area with weak cell signal?
Are there any other preinstalled apps from T-Mobile that are still installed?
G2X CM7

@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
@phburks
ok thnx i fixed the setcpu settings and no not really but idk if having in on a gsm carrier(Simple Mobile) makes a difference but yea thats why im trying to get this fixed because 5-6 hrs is really not enough i mean if i can at least get it to 10-12 hrs id be happy with that its great improvement and um well just google maps, news and weather, smarshare, talk, telenav, voicew search, youtube etc the only ones i made sure to get rid of was t-mobile app pack and wifi calling

It shouldn't unroot it.
what do you mean by relock?
Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
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Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861 will the reset un-root and re-lock the phone?
@phburks
ok thnx i fixed the setcpu settings and no not really but idk if having in on a gsm carrier(Simple Mobile) makes a difference but yea thats why im trying to get this fixed because 5-6 hrs is really not enough i mean if i can at least get it to 10-12 hrs id be happy with that its great improvement and um well just google maps, news and weather, smarshare, talk, telenav, voicew search, youtube etc the only ones i made sure to get rid of was t-mobile app pack and wifi calling
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I'd get rid of telenav too.
As for a reset, do you have clockworkmod recovery installed? Just boot into that and do a full reset. You wont lose root but you WILL lose any apps you installed, personal settings, text messages.
G2X CM7

@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
@phburks
i actually dont but as long as my phone remains unlocked and rooted im willing to try resetting it after all ove heard good things about it helping with battery life but can you walk me through it?

No. It shouldn't.
Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
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Mixalot213 said:
@enoch861
what i meant with relock is that its currently unlocked but if i do a factory restore will it alter that ?
@phburks
i actually dont but as long as my phone remains unlocked and rooted im willing to try resetting it after all ove heard good things about it helping with battery life but can you walk me through it?
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If by unlocking you mean the SIM being unlocked to work on other cell networks, then you have nothing to worry about. A factory reset wont mess with that
As for performing a factory reset, go into Settings > Privacy and choose Factory Data Reset. Make sure you back up any texts/MMS you want to keep. All personal files/photos on your sdcard will be preserved but you'll have to reinstall any apps you want.
Since you still have stock recovery you can also power off the phone and then hold Volume Down + Power for like 10 or more seconds till you see the Android unpacking icon, and it will reset that way.
It shouldn't mess with root.
G2X CM7

If your phone's rooted, which it seems to be, download the battery calibration app from the market. It's free, and helped my battery life immensely. Basically charge it up to 100%, use the app. It deletes the battery stats file so android can make a new one. Run it all the way down to empty, then charge it back up to 100% and you should be good to go.

Danishswag said:
If your phone's rooted, which it seems to be, download the battery calibration app from the market. It's free, and helped my battery life immensely. Basically charge it up to 100%, use the app. It deletes the battery stats file so android can make a new one. Run it all the way down to empty, then charge it back up to 100% and you should be good to go.
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how exactly is a program that measures the battery helping the battery life?
OP, I am using Xboarders latest 2.3.3 rom and have had the phone on 9 hours and am at 70%. I use set cpu to slow down teh processor when the screen is off and I use juice defender to turn off data, wifi, etc when the screen is off.

@ enoch861 thanks thats a relief
@phburks thanks im gonna go ahead and try it by the way when i perform it is there anything i should be doing or avoid doing (For example removieng certain apps or anything like that ?)
@Danishswag Tried it already it didnt help

Who is wasting my battery?

When I'm sleeping, my phone (HTC Sensation with Hypernonsense, but it's irrellevant because it has worked for a lot of time) drops the battery in a 20% in 7 hours.
So I'm looking for an app which tells me which program is wasting my battery. I know there is a Config>something>Battery, but It only shows me "Screen, Wifi, calls, waiting" or something like this, not the aplications.
Thank you,

Go setting, about phone, and then battery usage
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Yes, I know, but Settings>About>Battery does not show the processes. Just "Display, Cell standby, Phone idle & Wi-fi"

Something is preventing your phone from sleeping. Install BetterBatteryStats and find out what's keeping your phone awake. The dev has a thread here. Search for it and read it. There's a lot of use full info in it.

jr67 said:
Something is preventing your phone from sleeping. Install BetterBatteryStats and find out what's keeping your phone awake. The dev has a thread here. Search for it and read it. There's a lot of use full info in it.
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Thanks, will give it a shot for me. l've noticed my phone is always hot too now before l even use it.. weird. Might find the damn app that's killing me!

Constant background data usage

The last few weeks my skyrocket has been eating through a tremendous amount of data even on days where I would hardly use it, I can't get to the bottom of it and I swear I've tried everything. Each day on average it goes through about 500 MB of data, I don't have syncing turned on, I've cleared the ram and active processes several times, even turned the phone off and on with no luck. I tried using the systempanel app to see what exactly is running and the only thing out of the ordinary I would think is the 'device management' process. My only guess is that it's trying to download the ota 2.3.6 update (currently on 2.3.5, not rooted), but since when I try to update it fails at 75%, it's constantly re-downloading and trying to update?? I still have the unlimited at&t plan so usage isn't the biggest concern, but it's absolutely destroying my battery life, 1% every 8 minutes with it just sitting in my pocket with no apps running.

Try disabling autosync first, could be a screwup with the new gmail update
How exactly do u know how much data u are using a day, watchdog?

Install onavo to see what's eating data.
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jamesd86 said:
Install onavo to see what's eating data.
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I second that. I installed it on mine because my data usage seemed a little off even after I stopped streaming audio on a daily basis to the phone. If nothing else it's a bit of an eye opener to what uses how much data, and you can see if something is hogging data that you don't want.

icenight89 said:
Try disabling autosync first, could be a screwup with the new gmail update
How exactly do u know how much data u are using a day, watchdog?
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I have already had autosync disabled since before this started happening so I don't think it could be an issue there.
I follow how much data I use by dialing *DATA# (*3282#) and I get a text saying. I've been doing this a couple times a day since receiving those "your data usage is among the top 5%" texts, and with how little I've been using my phone lately I knew something was up.
With no apps running, I'll occasionally see the data waves on the 4G logo moving for at least 30 seconds.
Also, I've come to the conclusion that it's not processor usage that is killing my battery because when I toggle the data off, I get great battery life. 1% every hour and 20 minutes.

jamesd86 said:
Install onavo to see what's eating data.
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Thanks, I'll give that a shot right now and see how it goes. Do I have to have it constantly running for it to work?

Yeah but I haven't found any negative from having it running.
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I run Juice Defender Ultimate and have it set to custom and have it set to warn me when apps try to use data(it will ask on the first time if I want to enable/disable/nothing access) It will also shut down the data when the screen is off unless I specifically set an app for it.
It has helped me manage data and power consumption greatly.

3G watchdog will tell you which app / process is using the data connection.

Use a program called droidwall. By default it will block all data connections until u specify what to allow

Lag while receiving text messages [Q]

So I realized recently that while getting text messages (verizon model) I start to get a horrible lag mid text and i have to wait a few moments before the text is actually received before I can start texting again. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? The entire messaging app also just seems to lag a little more then usual now. could this also be due to how many text messages I have on my phone? any input on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

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See if it's poor optimization on the app. (try go sms or handcent) to see if it's the device or app. If it's the app, we made need to change a few lines of code. If it's the device, you could see if it's universal or just you received a bad unit. If anyone else on Verizon can comment, it'd help the OP greatly.

I'm on T-Mobile and I noticed it also, but one was MMS and then a SMS, I think its just poor coding and touchwiz. Are you still using the stock keyboard? I remembered that was the culprit for me.

Ascertion said:
See if it's poor optimization on the app. (try go sms or handcent) to see if it's the device or app. If it's the app, we made need to change a few lines of code. If it's the device, you could see if it's universal or just you received a bad unit. If anyone else on Verizon can comment, it'd help the OP greatly.
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Can you suggest a good messaging app i could try in the time being? I have to admit though I really did like the feel of the stock messaging app aside from that problem =/

mt3g said:
I'm on T-Mobile and I noticed it also, but one was MMS and then a SMS, I think its just poor coding and touchwiz. Are you still using the stock keyboard? I remembered that was the culprit for me.
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No im not im actually using the free version of of swift key 3

Ok so i just noticed something just now. It seems like my phone craps out the most when the battery is really low compared to when its fully charged. Can this be a reason as to why my messaging was messing up?

do you have power save mode on?

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do you have power save mode on?
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Ya I do actually. Is that whats causing it? To be honest ever since I got the phone I never really bothered to turn that thing off because I was getting insane battery life. If i turn that off will my phone start running faster?

I've noticed a difference and many reports have been stated to make it a lot faster.
T-Mobile SGS III

mt3g said:
I've noticed a difference and many reports have been stated to make it a lot faster.
T-Mobile SGS III
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Ok I just turned it off *well at least just the limiting cpu usage part* and it is so much snappier! no lag what so ever now. Question though how much would this effect battery life? Would there be a noticeable difference?

the power saver mode on the siii's is so bad, makes the phone act like its on android 1.6 or something. Terrible lag everywhere.
I doubt it will greately impact the battery life, phone has good battery life as is, would rather take hit on battery life than the terrible power saving lag.