Hi all,
When i reflash a new rom, all my apps which are supposed to just re download on their own get to a point and then about 30 + of them just fail.
Sometimes it says that there isn't enough space on the SD card, even though i've got plenty (16GB)
It's a real ballache to have to re download them one at a time and if i have to reboot then i lose the collection and that means i have to remember them and i always seem to forget some.
I only use titanium for a couple of apps because i don't see the point seeing as the android market usually does a good enough job of restoring my apps on it's own.
Rom's which this has happened with:
Coredroid
Insertcoin
P3D Sense
Android Revolution.
I always do a full wipe regardless of whether i'm instructed to or not, i format my card after every other flash of a rom and everything is usually tip top.
I'm about to re install a rom now and i'm betting that the same thing happens again.
Any help with this would be a great help.
Many thanks.
dladz said:
Hi all,
When i reflash a new rom, all my apps which are supposed to just re download on their own get to a point and then about 30 + of them just fail.
Sometimes it says that there isn't enough space on the SD card, even though i've got plenty (16GB)
It's a real ballache to have to re download them one at a time and if i have to reboot then i lose the collection and that means i have to remember them and i always seem to forget some.
I only use titanium for a couple of apps because i don't see the point seeing as the android market usually does a good enough job of restoring my apps on it's own.
Rom's which this has happened with:
Coredroid
Insertcoin
P3D Sense
Android Revolution.
I always do a full wipe regardless of whether i'm instructed to or not, i format my card after every other flash of a rom and everything is usually tip top.
I'm about to re install a rom now and i'm betting that the same thing happens again.
Any help with this would be a great help.
Many thanks.
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Your /cache partition is filling up while performing all the simultaneous downloads during the restore process. Android then aborts the download. You need to delete the orphaned apk files in that folder to clear the cache.
I think Google needs to improve the smarts in the restore process to prevent the cache from filling up
nvm Rumball beat me.
Rumball said:
Your /cache partition is filling up while performing all the simultaneous downloads during the restore process. Android then aborts the download. You need to delete the orphaned apk files in that folder to clear the cache.
I think Google needs to improve the smarts in the restore process to prevent the cache from filling up
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Nice one for that, but wouldn't i be clearing it by wiping the cache just before i flash the rom?
Would a second wipe help?
EDIT: Sonofabiiiatch it happened again, this is a pain in the ass man.
No, because its filling up because of your downloads, all the downloads at once have to store the files in the cache before installing it and with 30+ downloads it fills up quick, because of this i only ever use titanium to restore app.
kevinliu2336 said:
No, because its filling up because of your downloads, all the downloads at once have to store the files in the cache before installing it and with 30+ downloads it fills up quick, because of this i only ever use titanium to restore app.
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Ah i see, but what if titanium restores apps which the market is already restoring? Won't you end up with two sets of everything?
Sounds silly but it's partly the reason why i don't use titanium so much.
EDIT: Shame on google for having such a **** part to their system.
just after you wipe , go to the market app and cancel all the downloads then dl titanium and restore, problem solved, and if your using the newer market, then it should just be a simple cancel all button on the top. Titanium also has the option of only restoring the apps you are missing.
kevinliu2336 said:
just after you wipe , go to the market app and cancel all the downloads then dl titanium and restore, problem solved, and if your using the newer market, then it should just be a simple cancel all button on the top. Titanium also has the option of only restoring the apps you are missing.
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Ahh i've not seen that option, i'll look into it next time i'm going to flash a new rom which won't be long Thanks for all your help m8. I appreciate it.
Just an FYI , the option is found by opening the menu and then selecting batch, it will bring up a bunch of option for restoring, wiping and backing up.
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smeone has probably already thought of this, but incase not i wanted to throw it out there, back on windows mobile we had the ability to set up SDconfig to instal our cab files after we flashed a new rom, saving us time on doing it ourselves. has anyone started to write a script to automatically grab apps from the market if we have to wipe our phone, i have had to wipe my phone 3 times in less than the month thati've had it and it's a bit of a hassle to try and find all the apps from the market again. just wondering if anyone had any idea on how to do this. i'm not that good at the whole coding thing but it would be great if this was implemented somehow.
You could always copy the apk files and do an "adb install x.apk" after a wipe.
The other option right now is to use ASTRO to back up all your apps. Download it in the market, it will copy all of your apps to your SD. Unfortunately you have to reinstall one at a time, but it puts them all in a list. Between this and Mybackup I don't lose anything when I wipe my phone except for data created by individual apps. I am sure I could back this info up too, but it just isn't important to me. Hope this helps.
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The other option right now is to use ASTRO to back up all your apps. Download it in the market, it will copy all of your apps to your SD. Unfortunately you have to reinstall one at a time, but it puts them all in a list. Between this and Mybackup I don't lose anything when I wipe my phone except for data created by individual apps. I am sure I could back this info up too, but it just isn't important to me. Hope this helps.
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So make an update.zip with all your apks and favorite theme rolled-up. This way you can image your phone and then apply the update and you are set...
Or you can simply roll your own build of your image with your applications/themes already applied so you have a "live" image (so to speak).
Searched and didn't find this specific question or anything close - so I'll post
I've been flashing roms a lot now that I've got the hang of it, but I think I was creating a problem for myself with titanium backup, which I think I've maybe now solved, but I'm not absolutely sure.
On the last couple of nighlies of CM that I've flashed I've been getting unfixable FC of the phone app (rom manager fix permissions didn't fix it and neither did wiping dalvik cache).
So I flashed ns-collab and I like it, but today I got the same FC problems and had to restore my nandroid to get the phone working (I was at work).
NS-collab is meant to be stable so I was starting to think that it's not the roms that are at fault but something I'm doing, and I had a feeling it was what I do with TB. So here is exactly what I do when I flash a new rom.
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I have TB set to "backup all user apps". That's it - no system data.
Before flashing the rom (even if it's just an update) I clear data, cache, and dalvik cache.
When I've got the new rom flashed I do not allow google backup to restore my stuff as I want it done with TB.
In TB restore I run "Restore all apps with data". When I do this I select the app+data checkbox in TB before clicking "Run the batch operation".
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So, I had a look at the apps that get restored when I run TB "Restore all apps with data", and I noticed there is quite a lot of android stuff in there like the dialler and lots of other services that are part of the android os and don't need restored with TB really.
I've just flashed the updated version of ns-collab and I removed all these android services from the TB restore before I ran it so I'll see if any problems crop up now.
But my question is, was I causing the phone to be unstable by allowing these android services to be restored by TB. Remember I did not select to restore system data, but I am wondering if system data was restored anyway because there were android apps in the list and I had the app+data option selected.
Hope the above isn't confusing and any advice will be appreciated.
Lot of information but I say you found your problem yourself.
I have not had issues in the past restoring: bookmarks, contacts/calls storage, SMS/MMS/APN Dialer storage, SMS/MMS PREFS etc.
I do think you are giving yourself a little extra work than needed. It is not necessary to do a data wipe before updating a ROM, wiping cache and dalvik cache should be sufficient and a lot of people don't even do that. Of course a good clean wipe every now and then is good and gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside like after you change the oil in your car
In general, I do not recommend a full batch restore like restore all apps and data. I find when restoring with TB it is a good time to clean up and only restore the apps your really want back on your phone. I also do a batch restore, de-select all and just go down the list and pick out the stuff I HAVE to have.
irishrally said:
I have not had issues in the past restoring: bookmarks, contacts/calls storage, SMS/MMS/APN Dialer storage, SMS/MMS PREFS etc.
I do think you are giving yourself a little extra work than needed. It is not necessary to do a data wipe before updating a ROM, wiping cache and dalvik cache should be sufficient and a lot of people don't even do that. Of course a good clean wipe every now and then is good and gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside like after you change the oil in your car
In general, I do not recommend a full batch restore like restore all apps and data. I find when restoring with TB it is a good time to clean up and only restore the apps your really want back on your phone. I also do a batch restore, de-select all and just go down the list and pick out the stuff I HAVE to have.
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I think you are right about me giving myself work. Because I'm still a noob I'm still over cautious I think.
Maybe I'll try doing it your way. Sounds sensible.
Anybody know definitively whether me restoring everything via all apps and data would have contributed to the FCs I have been getting?
buachaille said:
I think you are right about me giving myself work. Because I'm still a noob I'm still over cautious I think.
Maybe I'll try doing it your way. Sounds sensible.
Anybody know definitively whether me restoring everything via all apps and data would have contributed to the FCs I have been getting?
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Did you try fixing permissions? I only use the batch for Backup all user apps.
Backing up bookmarks.. I use BookmarkSB and SMS (i know theres a app for that) but i use GVoice so i dont need it
I've never had a problem restoring user apps with data. Instead of restoring all, choose restore missing user apps with data or something like that.
Although, I've had problems restoring SMS and certain data for system apps on the NS. Can't figure out why it doesn't work but whatever.
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I would suggest you install app2sd & move your application to the sd-card. Each time you flash a new rom just wipe the /cache, dalvik-cache and battery stats. This is all you would ever require.
Thanks for all the replies. Quite a few suggestions there which I will try out.
Didn't have any FC problems at all at work today, so I'm hoping my more cautious restore last night might have done the trick.
buachaille said:
Thanks for all the replies. Quite a few suggestions there which I will try out.
Didn't have any FC problems at all at work today, so I'm hoping my more cautious restore last night might have done the trick.
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Yeah FCs happen when you backup system apps / bookmarks etc. It could interfere
Exactly as the title says. What gives?
I have free space. Over 300mb
I cleared dalvik cache but didn't work, reboot as well. Anything else I can do?
Lol, I was messing around with titanium backup and now I can't install it no matter what I do.
I'm not sure but I seem to get that with like 100mb free storage on the stock rom. As well as it saying my visual voicemail box is full which I can't even have since I'm on a prepaid plan. Usually I have to uninstall an app just to download an app that is a few hundred KB even though I have way more than enough room... although in your case TB might've caused some issues... Someone else can probably help out more than me though...
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I'm not sure but I seem to get that with like 100mb free storage on the stock rom. As well as it saying my visual voicemail box is full which I can't even have since I'm on a prepaid plan. Usually I have to uninstall an app just to download an app that is a few hundred KB even though I have way more than enough room... although in your case TB might've caused some issues... Someone else can probably help out more than me though...
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This only happened because I had uninstalled and reinstalled TB from the market a few times. I was testing something out. Was going to get TB back onto my phone and be done, but it won't install anymore. Even after I removed a few apps. I have over 400mb free now.
gtmaster303 said:
This only happened because I had uninstalled and reinstalled TB from the market a few times. I was testing something out. Was going to get TB back onto my phone and be done, but it won't install anymore. Even after I removed a few apps. I have over 400mb free now.
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well then you may have to wipe and flash again. Take that as you will lol
marc12868 said:
well then you may have to wipe and flash again. Take that as you will lol
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but if I need TB to backup certain apps before I reflash???
out of all the apps I could be having problems with
I tried clearing market data and cache as well. Still no luck. I'm starting to get really scared here. There's a lot of things I need to backup
Even if I sideload the app from my sd card, it still tells me I don't have enough space
I just uninstalled and reinstalled Mahjong Artifacts from the amazon app store a 40mb game WTF???
And TB still gives me an insufficient storage error
so it's only TB? If that's the case then use a different app to backup or even just make a nandroid backup wipe and reflash then use appextractor from the play store to pull apps from the nandroid...
marc12868 said:
so it's only TB? If that's the case then use a different app to backup or even just make a nandroid backup wipe and reflash then use appextractor from the play store to pull apps from the nandroid...
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Yes, its only TB. Lol that app didn't work. It would scan a nandroid and then the scan would finish. It wouldn't give me any indication of what apps it found or if there was any I could install. I was trying to find TB through one of my old backups, but it was a no go
Well es file explorer can backup any apps. You need root enabled I'm pretty sure as well, but you can do menu> manager> app manager> select (for multi select), then just select all the apps you want to back up and select backup.
File expert will backup apps, as well as things like androzip, etc...etc...
Or you could go in by hand and pull them individually with Root Explorer. Root Explorer is without equal the go to app to explore, manage and fix things on your device and well worth paying for.
Also, maybe cruise through these links about some of your backup concerns:
- Preparing for backup
- Backup Guide
...and don't forget to back up your sdcard to a computer, maybe your problem is similar to something like what was found here?
Official CWM Recovery 5.0.2.7 ...and once you finish backing up your sdcard to the computer you should format it after working through this issue and before flashing a new ROM.
Probably something silly like leftover files in /sdcard/android/data or something similar...
...i'm just getting off and crashing now, and meant to a while ago, so if I think of something sometime else not on the edge of sleep i'll post it. Good luck.
Edit real quick:
...and the clockworkmod backup is always a good grab:
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Yes, its only TB. Lol that app didn't work. It would scan a nandroid and then the scan would finish. It wouldn't give me any indication of what apps it found or if there was any I could install. I was trying to find TB through one of my old backups, but it was a no go
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...instead of using an app to try to fight with the backup image on the phone, use a real computer and the unyaffs tools to open it. You can get whatever you want.
Thanks for the help guys. I'm guessing there was a problem with TB and it wasn't going to have any help getting started again.
Bit the bullet and rebooted into Virtuous Inquisition. Amazing rom with great battery life. You should try it out for anyone who wants AOSPish. Gets better battery than it's Sense cousin Primadonna.
All apps are working again. I will work on getting some of my apps back from my old nandroid when I have time.
gtmaster303 said:
Thanks for the help guys. I'm guessing there was a problem with TB and it wasn't going to have any help getting started again.
Bit the bullet and rebooted into Virtuous Inquisition. Amazing rom with great battery life. You should try it out for anyone who wants AOSPish. Gets better battery than it's Sense cousin Primadonna.
All apps are working again. I will work on getting some of my apps back from my old nandroid when I have time.
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i had the same problem but i used es file explorer to go to the data/app folder to discover there was a .odex file for TB i deleted it and installed perfectly
mattlowry said:
i had the same problem but i used es file explorer to go to the data/app folder to discover there was a .odex file for TB i deleted it and installed perfectly
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Ahh thanks for this heads up. I was having the same problem on my OG Epic 4G and was about to start re-flashing with data wipe.
mattlowry said:
i had the same problem but i used es file explorer to go to the data/app folder to discover there was a .odex file for TB i deleted it and installed perfectly
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This worked for me couple weeks ago.
It's tied into autoupdate for the app. Turn it off in the Google Play Store.
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Hi there! I'm running a 'vanila' ICS 4.0.4 Nexus S. After the last reboot i'm having multiple pop-ups about applications that were forced to stop. Literally all system apps (Contacts, Messaging, Market etc), Google apps were forced to close. Phone doesn't rings and so on.
Most sad fact is that i can't even manage to install any program for backing up the phone and make a factory reset.
What can I do now?
Any help is much appreciated
Thanks in advance
lovefool said:
Hi there! I'm running a 'vanila' ICS 4.0.4 Nexus S. After the last reboot i'm having multiple pop-ups about applications that were forced to stop. Literally all system apps (Contacts, Messaging, Market etc), Google apps were forced to close. Phone doesn't rings and so on.
Most sad fact is that i can't even manage to install any program for backing up the phone and make a factory reset.
What can I do now?
Any help is much appreciated
Thanks in advance
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try this first: go to cwm, choose fix permissions, and see if it works. if not, you can do this: do a nandroid backup with cwm, then, factory reset everything. cache, data EVERYTHING. install any rom of your choice, then, download the titanium backup app, and you can extract app and data from the nandroid backup using titanium. never tested this my self since i backup everything before flashing and clear all data, so app crashes.
hope this helps and please hit the thanks button of you find this helpful!
Thanks for the tip, but i doubt i can do that since i can't install a thing, even appInstaller crashes for me
lovefool said:
Thanks for the tip, but i doubt i can do that since i can't install a thing, even appInstaller crashes for me
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why do you want to install any apps before fixing it??? do you have a custom recovery?
no, i run a clean version of ICS, i haven't even rooted my phone.
i need to install a cwm app which you offer me as a fix
lovefool said:
no, i run a clean version of ICS, i haven't even rooted my phone.
i need to install a cwm app which you offer me as a fix
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Oh, I see. You must have installed the update from 2.3 without wiping. Or something like that. Based on my knowledge, the best things you can do are:
1. Wipe/factory reset then reboot.
Or
Root your phone. Which wipes everything including the SD card partition. You can back up the SD card easy. I suggest the latter. So you can flash custom recovery images and do lots more than 'clean' ICS. One more thing, unrooted and unmodified is technically called stock. You will see this word a lot of times. Hope this helps.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
lovefool said:
Hi there! I'm running a 'vanila' ICS 4.0.4 Nexus S. After the last reboot i'm having multiple pop-ups about applications that were forced to stop. Literally all system apps (Contacts, Messaging, Market etc), Google apps were forced to close. Phone doesn't rings and so on.
Most sad fact is that i can't even manage to install any program for backing up the phone and make a factory reset.
What can I do now?
Any help is much appreciated
Thanks in advance
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I had similar conditions, I thought it was kernel/rom problem. and now it seems not!
I fix it this way: go into CWM recovery, backup, and then immediately restore. and the problem is gone. I know it sounds crazy, but it really works for me... every time.
lovefool said:
no, i run a clean version of ICS, i haven't even rooted my phone.
i need to install a cwm app which you offer me as a fix
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And also, try clear data of the apps that had been crashing, go to its app info and click clear data. See if this solves the problem.
^He's not rooted.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
ok guys, thanks for the help. but i'm thinking of the other way around
can i copy stock ICS 4.0.4 fw file on to internal storage and try to update the phone from HBOOT menu (the one called up with holding 'volume up' key)?
the thing is i have some info on the phone such as sms that i'd like to keep
or perhaps copy whole 'content' of the storage to my pc and move sms base or whatever back after factory reset?
is there a way to access internal storage while in HBOOT menu, cos in the loaded up state i can't copy fw file due to crashing system apps?
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ok guys, thanks for the help. but i'm thinking of the other way around
can i copy stock ICS 4.0.4 fw file on to internal storage and try to update the phone from HBOOT menu (the one called up with holding 'volume up' key)?
the thing is i have some info on the phone such as sms that i'd like to keep
or perhaps copy whole 'content' of the storage to my pc and move sms base or whatever back after factory reset?
is there a way to access internal storage while in HBOOT menu, cos in the loaded up state i can't copy fw file due to crashing system apps?
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You may try backing up SMS with GoSMS to SD-card
lovefool said:
ok guys, thanks for the help. but i'm thinking of the other way around
can i copy stock ICS 4.0.4 fw file on to internal storage and try to update the phone from HBOOT menu (the one called up with holding 'volume up' key)?
the thing is i have some info on the phone such as sms that i'd like to keep
or perhaps copy whole 'content' of the storage to my pc and move sms base or whatever back after factory reset?
is there a way to access internal storage while in HBOOT menu, cos in the loaded up state i can't copy fw file due to crashing system apps?
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I suspect the SMS are stored in the system partition... Google it. If it is, again, you need root to access those files.
oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S!
Billchen0014 said:
try this first: go to cwm, choose fix permissions, and see if it works. if not, you can do this: do a nandroid backup with cwm, then, factory reset everything. cache, data EVERYTHING. install any rom of your choice, then, download the titanium backup app, and you can extract app and data from the nandroid backup using titanium. never tested this my self since i backup everything before flashing and clear all data, so app crashes.
hope this helps and please hit the thanks button of you find this helpful!
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Did a "fix permission" and it's back to normal now, thanks Billchen0014!!
Hi!
I did search and was hoping to find a 'Titanium Backup' section within XDA all I saw where threads in various sections. So if there is one and I should be posting there just let me know!
I will explain my situation;
I'm have a Nexus 5 that is unlocked and rooted. Within Google's update last night I had to reboot my phone and all of a sudden com.android.ui force closes and nothing worked. I wasn't able to tap on any app, app draw, dock .. nothing.
Here's where my ignorance comes to play. Could I have restored my phone from a backup which was only 3 days old without having to wipe it?
Yeah, I wiped the phone, re-rooted and let all the Google apps update and I'm bringing down my Titanium backup from the cloud to the device to restore my apps from it.
So could I have done this in a better way? If there is the next time I'll do it!
And is there some definitive guide on Titanium Backup? I followed a YouTube tut and it appeared to be have captured what I needed but I feel that there's more to it! I just feel I should be using that app to backup more than just my apps + data.
Hope you can help!
Thanks!
Dave
MrBiggzz said:
Hi!
I did search and was hoping to find a 'Titanium Backup' section within XDA all I saw where threads in various sections. So if there is one and I should be posting there just let me know!
I will explain my situation;
I'm have a Nexus 5 that is unlocked and rooted. Within Google's update last night I had to reboot my phone and all of a sudden com.android.ui force closes and nothing worked. I wasn't able to tap on any app, app draw, dock .. nothing.
Here's where my ignorance comes to play. Could I have restored my phone from a backup which was only 3 days old without having to wipe it?
Yeah, I wiped the phone, re-rooted and let all the Google apps update and I'm bringing down my Titanium backup from the cloud to the device to restore my apps from it.
So could I have done this in a better way? If there is the next time I'll do it!
And is there some definitive guide on Titanium Backup? I followed a YouTube tut and it appeared to be have captured what I needed but I feel that there's more to it! I just feel I should be using that app to backup more than just my apps + data.
Hope you can help!
Thanks!
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Unfortunately I would suggest to do first a wipe cache/dalvik cache before trying a factory reset.
Restoring apps system with Titanium is not really recommended (become worst than before). I tried and had many force close on system ui during the test.
regards,
P.
pfloc said:
Hi Dave,
Unfortunately I would suggest to do first a wipe cache/dalvik cache before trying a factory reset.
Restoring apps system with Titanium is not really recommended (become worst than before). I tried and had many force close on system ui during the test.
regards,
P.
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I'm bit past that point. I wasn't restoring system app .. just user apps + data. That's one thing that I caught on to when I was learning about backup up was things NOT to backup and system apps where one!
Somebody in the G+ Xposed community told me to wipe cache was well. And my reply was the same that if the UI has force closed and nothing is responsive then how can I do this?
You'll have to pardon my ignorance as this is the first time I've encountered a problem like this. I've been pretty blessed so far! =)
MrBiggzz said:
And my reply was the same that if the UI has force closed and nothing is responsive then how can I do this?
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does the Nexus 5 comes which a standard recovery where you can do it ... otherwise install a custom recovery.
but if you could access to titanium application with the constant popup, it has a option to clean cache.
good luck
pfloc said:
does the Nexus 5 comes which a standard recovery where you can do it ... otherwise install a custom recovery.
but if you could access to titanium application with the constant popup, it has a option to clean cache.
good luck
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The other source I'd tapped told me since I have a custom recovery that I able to wipe cache and dalvik cache as well. This person has had the same issue.
So ... I learned something new today! =)
Hope you will get a full functional phone after that
also don't backup/restore system app files/ ie messaging> call log etc between different versions or different types of android
digijedi007 said:
also don't backup/restore system app files/ ie messaging> call log etc between different versions or different types of android
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Yep, I said that third post down! =)
Only thing was I was expecting to be able to restore from the cloud. Instead I had to copy everything from the cloud back down to the phone.
Phone works though.
But in my case I was told to get into recovery which I had done but after that had no idea what to do. Wiping and restoring was a bit premature.