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Google teaming with samsung - fail?

I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?

I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.

Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.

I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...

Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.

Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Loggerhead87 said:
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.

AntonJart said:
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."

z33dev33l said:
Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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Loggerhead87 said:
u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen

The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.

Loggerhead87 said:
u mad
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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.

AntonJart said:
Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.

Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"

Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
or
Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.

I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!

put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win

I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.

What to do...?

I don't know a better place than XDA to ask for some honest opinion.
I am in Canada and used the Nexus S on Mobilicity. LOVE THE PHONE...but traded with my wife because I wanted Rogers 3g since it is much faster than Mobilicity's 3g.
Now I am using the Captivate and love that as well. I will not be buying the 850 band NS since it is not a huge leap from the Captivate.
I am debating whether to get the SGS II (addicted to AMOLED display) or wait for the next Nexus since I am really liking the pure Google experience? I had a great experience with my NS experience and Captivate is serving me fine.
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With that given scenario, I would get the S2 unless....... you are really a developer and love jacking around on the phone for discovery sake, me the S2 looks to be the next inline phone for me, But one needs to have hands on first then you can really make a proper decision.

Get the S2 and root it and just put all stock gapps on it.

Agree with the above suggestions

Yup...that is what I am leaning towards. Get the wife the hand bag so she has nothing to say when I get my new SGS II.
Obviously read the hands on review first...
Thanks!

Hagow said:
I am debating whether to get the SGS II (addicted to AMOLED display) or wait for the next Nexus since I am really liking the pure Google experience? I had a great experience with my NS experience and Captivate is serving me fine.
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SGS II is very good choic and you can somedey get custom ROM witch pure google experience

Krzysiek84 said:
SGS II is very good choic and you can somedey get custom ROM witch pure google experience
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This may not be so. The phone is being locked down - security is a large issue of the phone.
I faced the same situation, but without a phone, so went for the NS because imo as a developer it's better than the SGS II will be. The latter being the same as the NS, just more powerful and with horrid Touchwiz on it.
If I were in your shoes, I'd wait for the next Nexus phone. It'll be built on top of all the mistakes the first series of dual core phones will have made, with a version of Android that will actually be able to take advantage of the power properly... (Samsung haven't actually confirmed if SGS II will be getting 2.4 / Ice Cream for the phone or not)

MarkusPO said:
If I were in your shoes, I'd wait for the next Nexus phone. It'll be built on top of all the mistakes the first series of dual core phones will have made, with a version of Android that will actually be able to take advantage of the power properly... (Samsung haven't actually confirmed if SGS II will be getting 2.4 / Ice Cream for the phone or not)
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Wow that is very good advice and makes alot of sense. So true...perhaps waiting is better since Captivate is doing me a mighty good job ATM.
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ns is my best campanion

Just a tribute to the Captivate...

I can't believe I'm not in a hurry to jump ship to the Galaxy S2. The Cappy has been such a good experience as a phone and it's still able to do whatever I need it to do. When the Fuze came out I couldn't help but be there the first day to pick one up. I was compelled to have the latest and greatest, and the abilities a new smartphone would allow. The same happened the release day of the Captivate.
Sure, it's had its issues (GPS and capped data speeds come to mind) but between the performance of hardware and the constant ROM updates from the dev community, I just don't feel that compulsion to move on from the Captivate. For me it's been a great phone and it's made me a big fan of Samsung's products. Oh I'll get a Galaxy S2 here in a month or two when the price comes down a bit. But I'm still happy with my Captivate and I'll keep it around as a backup.

ditto
i will likely wait until december unless the deal is too good to pass up.
Want to see what develops with the nexus prime.
Some info claims it will be a Verizon Exclusive but i am skeptical. I think that it is more likely we will see it launch exclusively on verizon with a 30-60 window before other carriers get it....so i am not giving up on the prime....the solid metal body construction alone will be worth the wait...just hope ATT gets it.

ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .

umanko said:
ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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That is what has my attention as well...Galaxy Note.

I don't feel the need to upgrade from my Captivate either. Its a weird feeling, I use to be such a phone whore, now I look at new phones and feel they can't do a whole lot for me (personally, I know the phones are actually huge upgrades) that my Captivate can't do.
I HATE how ALL of the new phones being announced are so huge! 4.3" isn't TOO bad, but I do prefer my 4" screen. They're just getting bigger too, I want the Nexus Prime so badly, but there's no way I'm getting it with a 4.65" screen. My upgrade isn't until May 2012 and I'm questioning if there will even be a phone out there I like by then.
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first look at the nexus prime has a 4.6" 720p display

The captivate is a great phone. And always will be. But I jumped ship over to the inspire.
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Note is only thing captivating me right now
umanko said:
ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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I'm with you guys. Once the GS II finally came out, I am not as excited. The last ROM I put on is great and until that note comes out, paying 200 for the GS2 isn't so alluring.
Especially with LTE on horizon and the Note, which will be awesome.
It's like an old friend, even knowing something is better out there, I'm not ready to trade in my old worn in shoes

studacris said:
first look at the nexus prime has a 4.3" 720p display
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The article says 4.6". It may not be so bad since that probably includes the buttons at the bottom, I'll just have to see it in person, but I still think it will be a very large device.

I'm a captivate owner and I really love it. I will not change it in a while..

The only two things that I don't really like in Captivate are very bad sensitive buttons (well, I replaced screen after it was broken, and than buttons were like that) and very bad battery life, especially with MIUI
But speed and functionality are just grear. And still love the screen with maximum brightness. I think I will buy Galaxy Note or Nexus Prime, will see...

I'm with you guys, but not by choice. I have a contract to fulfil.
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I'll also be waiting for the Note.

I just looked up the Galaxy Note. Wow...! That thing looks amazing. It might be just a bit too big but I'm really considering jumping on that.

I'm with you guys. There is no real reason to upgrade just yet. With a good custom ROM (Cog5), it does everything I ask of it, and does it quickly. The screen is just amazing, and only the SAMOLED Plus beats it, if you ask me. Since I'm not on contract, I can switch when I want, but I see nothing out there I just gotta have. The Prime may change that, but if it is CDMA, then I'm out. Big Red is too expensive for my blood.
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Can someone please link me some info on the Note? I'd never heard of it until now.

Oz. said:
Can someone please link me some info on the Note? I'd never heard of it until now.
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http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/
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Great idea for a thread. My Captivate was my first Android phone. When I got it, I immediately started hacking it. Right now it's semi retired. My Galaxy S 2 is now my main phone.

NightHawk877 said:
Great idea for a thread. My Captivate was my first Android phone. When I got it, I immediately started hacking it.
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I was in the same scenario.

sold my captivate and got a free iphone 4 from my company. I dont miss the phone bills but i can honestly say the Cappy ****s on the Iphone. ****ing hate this thing

Think I should go for the Galaxy S II or wait?

I'd get it off contract because I'm crazy and illogical. But the Galaxy S II looks great, even if ATT shrunk the screen. I know the Nexus Prime is coming out soon, but I am iffy on it. All of the previous Nexus's seemed to fizzle out quickly or something, though I know none were ever made by the current Samsung beast company.
I guess I should wait for that announcement. A curved screen isn't weird, is it?

Att didn't shrink the screen. Their version, the I777, is the closest to the original S2. The other carriers mess with their versions more.

I plan on waiting for the Nexus Prime. I'm pretty sure it's going to set the new standard for smart phones in 2012.

Ya I'm kinda in the same boat. But the important thing is whether the nexus it galaxy will have the most active community because for me that is really what made my phone. Also I saw somewhere that Samsung is coming out with 1.5ghz chips for their phones in the spring and you may wanna wait for that
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I'll bleed for S ll
I want phone off contract but don't want to derail budget. Realized if I donate blood that's sixty to seventy dollars a week..

i'm waiting to see about the prime. some rumours are it will be CDMA/Verizon. besides, it's only tuesday

I would wait for not necessarily the prime but a phone with:
- 720p screen
- Quad Core cpu (Kal-El hopefully because I am sick of looking at games like shadowgun and I cannot play. I know there is chainfire3d but it does not work for all games)

Nexus Prime sounds perty nice, but looks like it may be a Verizon exclusive for now.
I was REALLY looking forward to the S II on AT&T, but it's taken so long to get here that at this point I'm thinking of holding off for the Galaxy Note (possibly early 2012). It may to big for some but I like the S pen thing and will be using it for business.
PLayes with the S II yesterday for a few minutes. It was nice and my captivate is getting long in the tooth... Tempting, but I will likely wait (for the Note).
As for waiting for the Nexus Prime, you may have a bit of a wait if indeed it starts out as a Verizon exclusive.

The joy and bane of android phones is that they self-obsolete themselves every 6 months. There will ALWAYS be a better phone that is just past the corner. The android phone scene is advancing faster than any other hardware wise.
I went with the Thrill: dual core, dual channel RAM, 3D screen, HDMI output (cable included), excellent build quality, same "4"G, plus its $20 from Walmart online on contract. In many ways its even or outspecs the galaxy s 2, but much softer on the wallet. I just couldn't rationalize paying an extra $100+ just to get more choice in custom ROMs.
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I'm sorry but I think the sgs 2 is worth it because of the screen power and community resources
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Well, I just read that an AT&T flavored Nexus Prime has hit the FCC. So we might indeed be getting this 4.0 device.
Still the Galaxy Note has the feature set I'm really after.

For me its between the htc holiday and the nexus prime. Its pretty much whatever comes out first. Once i went to the htc inspire, I fell in love with htc. Still absolutely love my Captivate though
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Just get it
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What do you think is the Best Android phone?

Hello all, I'm starting this to get opinions of what people think is the best android phone and the reasons they think it's the best. I'm looking to get a new phone and would like other peoples input on what phone is best, since there are a lot of options available. I know everything is an opinion when it comes to a phone. Just say what you think the biggest pros are and the biggest cons are. Admin, If I started this thread in the wrong place apologize!
I've had 3 android phones, all with t mobile. The G1, nexus one and the samsung galaxy s(vibrant). I still have all of them!
Now in my opinion the nexus one has been the best for installing modified ROM'S, With the least amount of issues and ease of unlocking with all hardware working. The downside is the screen size and the flipping power button keeps breaking!
Now my second option is the samsung galaxy s. I like the dimensions of the phone and the screen size is awesome. But with modified kernels and a crappy GPS antenna you still have GPS issues.
So come one come all, leave your input let's see what phone you think is the best on the market today!
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Galaxy S2 hands down.
Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.

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geko95gek said:
Galaxy S2 hands down.
Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.
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specially the SGS2 HD version

The Galaxy Nexus.

HTC Wildfire S

I was also thinking on the same lines... tho I think people should be careful as to what their suggesting... I don't think this thread is based on "what phone do you own, hence think is the best "... because I'm sure as **** the Wildfire S is by far not even close to the best android... maybe the best cheap android phone... but definately not the best...
If you think a phone is the best... then why do you think so... you need to have a valid reason...
As far as I'm concerned I want to change phones as well... at the moment the S2 seems to be at the top of the hill... I was sure I would get the galaxy nexus but after seeing the utterly disappointing specs... a crappy camera, no expandable memory, and a TI processor rather than a exenos is just a major letdown...
Tho in the upcoming phones seems the Droid Razr is supposed to be a beast and the S2 HD seems to be awesome... but iit looks like will need to wait a while for them... not to.mention the s2 HD will only be released in Korea...??? :s
Its actually quite strange phones are getting bigger and bigger... they just wont seem to fit in pockets soon... I thought a 4 inch screen is perfect... tho 4.2 is really pushing it... but 4.6... I'm not really into wearing clothes twice my size to be able to fit my damn phone in my pocket
What does anyone suggest based on facts... wait for the nexus... or the S2 HD... or just go for the S2...
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I've favored HTC phones. I've personally owned the Droid Inc, Inc2, and the moto Droid. I've had my hands on quite a few different ones. I think the Inc Is my favorite . Samsung has good phones, but I like the HTC's better.
XDA App. DInc 2 PoWeReD

Best android phone ever? As an early adopter I'd say the g1, that thing was supported for a looooong time given the average lifespan of android phones, the form factor, while thick, is still one of the coolest to date with android, and I believe you could get it all the way to gingerbread despite being a severely dated device. Next to the HD2 it is my favorite tinkering phone. The best right now, likely the gs2, I don't have much love for the current devices but the hardware on the razr is looking pretty sexy. I have a thing for thin phones. That's why my next device will be a Nokia 800 but that's a story for another thread.
Tl;dr? G1, GS2, razr droid.

For someone like you just get a Galaxy S ii and call it a day.
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I think Galaxy S II, yup! Me too, samsung has good phones, but I like the HTC's better.

AllGamer said:
specially the SGS2 HD version
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+1 for sgs 2 hd lte
but i wonder when it release
announce so long adi ><

XeactorZ said:
+1 for sgs 2 hd lte
but i wonder when it release
announce so long adi ><
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I think the OP was leaning more towards phones that are available now. Obviously, the way technology and competition works, the best phone will be the one not released yet...

Samsung Galaxy S II

Incredible 2
I know it is only single core phone and doesn't have 4G, but it is a great phone.
good size, verizon, international, supported by cm7

My one!

XeactorZ said:
+1 for sgs 2 hd lte
but i wonder when it release
announce so long adi ><
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Tapatalked from my Samsung Galaxy S Plus

DirkGently said:
My one!
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Oldskooling it

Galaxy Nexus easy.... duh.... haha
Please thank me if I helped.

well it depends upon what specs you want to have(and brag about).
IMO, there's no such thing as 'best Android phone' because having the 'best' phone is always subjective.
If you want the highest specs on a phone, you can look at the flagship phones.
If you want to be unique, choose a less well-known brand.
If you want to customise, there's plenty.
If you want to have a good-looking UI, SE arc or ray would do

mine.
lol