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[Q] Why the Xoom?

Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.

Buy what you can and when you can. Technology waits for no one. It might be the best now, tomorrow who knows.
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I agree, sure there will be better ones that come out and they probably will be cheaper. But the xoom is here now. Even if I knew the samsung was going to be just as good and half the price I would not wait 3 months with no tablet to save the money. I guess it depends on your financial situation but frankly if you are worried about your finances you probably should not get any tablet as it not something really anyone "needs". But even though I don't need it, if I lost mine I would buy a new one the same day to replace it. It depends on what makes you happy, the xoom makes me happy so its a easy decision for me, regardless of how others may think of it.
Every day I have it it just gets more and more useful and enjoyable for me. When netflix hits its going to better, when more tablet apps hit its going to be better, when os updates come out its going to be better, the future is still pretty bright for the xoom even though new tablets are coming.
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Good thing is you have choices! LG Moto Samsung. I personally wouldn't trust LG or Acer. There is no telling when or if you would receive updates and accessories. Motorola and Samsung would be my front runners. The Xoom is here now and you can read through the forums to gage how well people like it. Samsung is a little ways away but cheaper with similiar specs. I can't wait so its Xoom here.
Do your research and weigh the pros and cons of each device. Decide what features you find more important and make your decision based on that information. We could tell you all day long which device we would buy but its all about personal preference. You gotta carry thing around for 6-12 months not us.
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I would go to a best buy and play with the xoom for a while. get a good feel for the hardware and see if you like the size of the device. You mmay find it too big or heavy. From what I hear about the Samsung galaxy 8.9, it may be the one to get in a few months. The LG to me is priced too high and wouldn't dare think about getting a tablet on contract. Acer and some of the others have been unproven and will have to prove something if I'm going to chose them over the competition that has built a good reputation with android over the last few years.
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no point in waiting. By the time Samsung gets here, there will be another even more impressive tablet coming.

It is similar with me and when the Nikon D300s came out. I was puzzle on should I get D300s or wait for D400 or maybe something else.
Look at this way, I got the Nikon D300s...was able to play with it and took all those great pictures with it, that I would not have been able to during that period of me waiting.
So, either buy the Xoom now and enjoy having the use of it...or wait until price drop and think back of all those days you've lost not having the fun of having it. What makes it worst to wait, the minute you buy it...it either get discontinued or replace with something better. Technology waits for no one. Get it while it is hot.

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gubiguy said:
Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.
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From what I have read I would say that the xoom still has the better specs. Maybe I am missing something but the pricing is similar, run the same processor and ram, same screen Res and size (although I am sure samsungs screen is more vivid), and both have micro ad slots. The xoom however has 3g (upgradeable to lte 4g which is worth the price of admission right there if you ask me), is unlockeable and most of all isn't running a horrible skin like touchwiz. I can guarentee the developer support will be greater for the xoom than any of the Samsung tabs. The only spec I see that is slightly bwtter than the xoom is the screen and the 8.9 should cost a little less and have a little better pixel debsity. Oh and the Samsung tabs are a little lighter but that is a complete non issue to me. If you want a Tablet that will.never get upgrades and run a horrible laggy, cartoony, iphoney screen then get Samsung. I still think the xoom is by far the better Tablet and won't be trumped until quad core kilel (did I spell that right?) Processors are released.
I have had the xoom since release and I actually pay to have data plan so I can't comment on wifi only (and who can it's not out but from what I have seen it is the exact same just missing support 3g/4g chip. I personally want/need 4g so I purchased put right, but for most wifi will work fine. You can always go.month to month and the extra 200 to me was much worth knowing that one day Verizon lte will be powering this beast making it all the more better than the competition. The android tablet world is just starting and I really think that the xoom is the Nexus one of tablets and that is one of the main reasons I purchased it and after Sammy announced their lineup with touchwiz on board I think this (and LG) will be some of the only stock vanilla honeycomb tablets the market will ever see especially where iit is fully inlockeable. I would suggest the xoom to anyone and the 599 price point is perfect. Let me know if you have any questions and good luck in your future decision. Hope this helps even a little bit
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B Dizzle said:
Samsung is a little ways away but cheaper with similiar specs. I can't wait so its Xoom here.
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Agree with everything you said, except: the Galaxy Tab 10.1 32GB wifi-only will be $599, just like the Xoom. So pricing is actually identical. The existence of a $499 16GB Galaxy Tab 10.1 might be attractive to some folks, but it won't of course be the same thing.
And I know Samsung did a really good job of going back and redesigning the Galaxy Tab given the iPad 2's strengths. But what did they cut to make the thing so much thinner, lighter and, as they implied in their statements, cheaper?

I think from what I see, the two factors that get me interested in Galaxy are
1) The much brighter and vibrant screen
2) lighter than xoom
But knowing Samsung and their support level or lack there of...Xoom might be a better choice....

I personally don't care for touchwiz, and the molasses pace that Samsung produces updates is criminal. Buying a device with an OS as new as Honeycomb from a manufacturer with a proven record of bad post-production software support seems like a bad idea to me.
Also, last I checked the 10.1V (teh stock android 3.0 version) does not have microSD

I will reiterate what another use stated, head down to Best Buy and get your hands on the XOOM to get a feel for the size and weight. I've done this a few times and the more I do the more I like it. Initially it feels a little heavy but you get used to it.
The XOOM is here now, the price will be similar to other 10" Honeycomb devices coming out and many of the coming devices will have custom overlays. (TouchWiz) I'd rather have the XOOM as it's a Google Experience device and will likely be the first device to get updates.

I think touch wiz should be least of concern. I think they confirmed that 10.1 will go live w/o touch wiz and it is an optional add on patch if you chose to.
Beside, touch wiz or not, root and replace with other launcher if dont like it.

smilepak said:
I think touch wiz should be least of concern. I think they confirmed that 10.1 will go live w/o touch wiz and it is an optional add on patch if you chose to.
Beside, touch wiz or not, root and replace with other launcher if dont like it.
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I completely disagree, especially on such a new OS that will be receiving frequent, important updates.
The 10.1V will be stock android (this is the fatter version with the better camera and no SD card)
The super slim 8.9 and 10.1 will be touchwiz 4.0

hi_its_ryan said:
I completely disagree, especially on such a new OS that will be receiving frequent, important updates.
The 10.1V will be stock android (this is the fatter version with the better camera and no SD card)
The super slim 8.9 and 10.1 will be touchwiz 4.0
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Didn't know there were 3 versions. In the slashgear you tube i saw, they only show two versions.

smilepak said:
Didn't know there were 3 versions. In the slashgear you tube i saw, they only show two versions.
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the 10.1v was the one that came out at MWC before Samsung did a big re-design to make it thinner and smoother.
Then they released the new 10.1 and 8.9 as the "US Versions" at CTIA a few days ago.
It should be said that we really don't know which models or if any will be coming with TouchWiz4.0 on them. We have a whole 2 months before the new 10.1 even comes out. A lot can change in that time, and as far as Google is concerned you're not allowed to change Honeycomb's UI, so we'll have to see as that pans out.

Guys, I just wanted to mention that LG is apparently creating a nexus/purely Google tablet - slated to be the *real* "Nexus One" of tablets and receive the according amount of updates... the question is , how reputable is LGs hardware? Truthfully, because the Xoom and the Nexus tab will both run AOSP honeycomb, I doubt updates will come slower to the Xoom from the dev community or the manufacturer.
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gubiguy said:
Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.
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I have nothing to add, but we have the same birthday.

wolverine423 said:
I have nothing to add, but we have the same birthday.
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Get a tablet on the 23rd as well
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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What do Inspire owners prefer, iPad or Google pad? And why?

All I want for Christmas is my...... I was wondering what fellow Inspire/android users are crushing on when it comes to a pad. I LOVE android with its different spaces, the HTC sense, hundreds of ROMs and widgets. Unfortunately, the iPad is kinda sweet and no one android pad has caught up. For me, I would go for an iPad simply because android lacks that one stop usability for everything that Apple has, andoid pads are overpriced and android is missing a killer office suite. If Microsoft made office lite for android and prices were lowered by 20%, android would make a dent.
Until then, I'm crushing on the iPad 3.
What do y'all think?
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nacymex said:
All I want for Christmas is my...... I was wondering what fellow Inspire/android users are crushing on when it comes to a pad. I LOVE android with its different spaces, the HTC sense, hundreds of ROMs and widgets. Unfortunately, the iPad is kinda sweet and no one android pad has caught up. For me, I would go for an iPad simply because android lacks that one stop usability for everything that Apple has, andoid pads are overpriced and android is missing a killer office suite. If Microsoft made office lite for android and prices were lowered by 20%, android would make a dent.
Until then, I'm crushing on the iPad 3.
What do y'all think?
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i hate my ipad. every time i want to visit a site with flash, i have to pull out my touchpad or a laptop...
so now my wife uses the ipad as an expensive kindle

Pirateghost said:
i hate my ipad. every time i want to visit a site with flash, i have to pull out my touchpad or a laptop...
so now my wife uses the ipad as an expensive kindle
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So it basically makes a nice colorful paperweight/kindle. ;p Most of my work is word processor/calendar/ppt intensive. I think the Atrix is a great idea if it could be perfected so that we could have a phone/pad or computer that would be our source for presentations and for sites we could use some more space on.

nacymex said:
So it basically makes a nice colorful paperweight/kindle. ;p Most of my work is word processor/calendar/ppt intensive. I think the Atrix is a great idea if it could be perfected so that we could have a phone/pad or computer that would be our source for presentations and for sites we could use some more space on.
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LOL....i dislike my atrix too. great concept, extremely poor implementation

I prefer a Android tablet, specifally, the Asus Transformer (still trying to root it). Because I feel very wrong inside about buying an Apple mobile device...

Ultfreecomputing said:
I prefer a Android tablet, specifally, the Asus Transformer (still trying to root it). Because I feel very wrong inside about buying an Apple mobile device...
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Same here
Maybe it's my instinct against Apple.

Pirateghost said:
i hate my ipad. every time i want to visit a site with flash, i have to pull out my touchpad or a laptop...
so now my wife uses the ipad as an expensive kindle
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PG how are liking the touchpad?
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Played with iPad but lacked without micro sd support, hdmi out and full usb port. Use an Archos 101 Internet Tablet 8gb and now the Acer Iconia A500 and really enjoy it. It all seems to be what system and build fits your needs or your preferences. Just throwing this out there for anyone who may be interested, selling the Archos...

cwhitney24 said:
PG how are liking the touchpad?
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i love it. too bad webos failed with market penetration. its a beautiful os, but there is no app support. i am patiently waiting for a stable android build now....

Picked up the Jetstream last week and love it! Much prefer it to the ipad. The price is high but I think the specs will pay off in the longterm.
On this size screen I prefer the normal sites vs apps or mobile so the lack of honeycomb apps isn't a big deal.
We need some secs on it though. I want root!
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My children love their $700 toy that is the iPad. Personally I am not crazy about tablets, I prefer my laptop. Anything I would do on a tablet I can do on my phone or laptop. This is just a personal opinion of course, if I traveled a lot, I would probably find a tablet more appropriate because of size. All that being said, I would love to sell my iPad that I haven't used in probably 8 months, but my wife won't let me because the kids love it. If I did purchase another tablet, it would be an Android powered tablet just because I prefer Android over iOS and it would probably be the Asus Transformer

I love my wifi xoom, haven't had the chance to use it much lately since school started
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flappjaxxx said:
My children love their $700 toy that is the iPad. Personally I am not crazy about tablets, I prefer my laptop. Anything I would do on a tablet I can do on my phone or laptop. This is just a personal opinion of course, if I traveled a lot, I would probably find a tablet more appropriate because of size. All that being said, I would love to sell my iPad that I haven't used in probably 8 months, but my wife won't let me because the kids love it. If I did purchase another tablet, it would be an Android powered tablet just because I prefer Android over iOS and it would probably be the Asus Transformer
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Well, I will warn you: If you get one brand new, it's very likely it's not rootable. I have one, and I am still waiting for a nvflash that targets B70+ models, a working 3.1-3.2 exploit, or both.

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Well, I will warn you: If you get one brand new, it's very likely it's not rootable. I have one, and I am still waiting for a nvflash that targets B70+ models, a working 3.1-3.2 exploit, or both.
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Heh well until the ipad dies I am on gadget restriction as per my wife. My MacBook died a while back so I bought a new laptop without discussing it with my wife(asking for permission) so I am not allowed to buy anything until something else dies. Not really in the market for another tablet anyway, its just not practical for me. I would buy a new phone before I would buy another tablet
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I have an iPad2 and enjoy it quite a bit, but I am basically an Apple guy (more Apple gear around here than I care to admit) and the iPad fits in well with the Apple ecosystem. (And yes, I own an Inspire 4G but until I bought it, I was a solid iPhone man).
Truth be told though, if the Jetstream had existed when I bought my iPad, I would have SERIOUSLY considered it instead. That is one sweet machine.

Liked the Viewsonic G-Tab, then sold it on Ebay and bought the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1", when Staples had the $100 off coupon. Couldn't be happier!

Asus transformer, B70 model and rooted ...
But seriously android tablet is insanely customizable, I had an ipod touch 4 and sold it. Why? Because even jailbroken customization was extremely limited.
Android can do anything.
This changes everything, again. XD
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Even though I do like my mother's iPad, I'm of course gonna go with my Nook Color running Cyanogenmod 7 due to many reasons.
1.My instinct to hate Apple
2. ITS. FREAKING. CYANOGENMOD.

Apple can KMA
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Love my rooted galaxy tab 10.1
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[Q] Worth buying now?

Is it worth buying now or just wait for Xoom 2 or I should buy Galaxy Tab 10.1?
I have iPad 1 ,but I don't like it ,it not very productivity just game. I am now considering buying an Android Tablet.
Should I buy Xoom or Galaxy Tab 10.1? I also like to flash new ROM. Which one have more custom ROM?

Good question. My two cents...
Presumably, Google will release the source code for Honeycomb sometime soon after the release of Icecream Sandwich. It's also a (I believe widely accepted) presumption that a new model Xoom will be released soon, especially with the Christmas season approaching.
Not that Google and Motorola should really ever be expected to have their **** together enough to coordinate this correctly, from a marketing stand point it makes the most sense. It would make sense that the new Xoom would have the new OS in it.
However, two great things will happen if that's all true; three price of the Xoom 1 will drop considerably (it already has dropped pretty far), and new Honeycomb ROMs will be popping up with far better customizable interfaces and capabilities than Icecream Samich!
This is all speculation on my part, and I may be completely ignorant of some key facts, but it's the reason why I have no interest in a new tablet or Icecream Sandwich.
My last experience with this sort of thing was when I was loading my Droid 1. Even though updates were open source (TRUE O.S.), and always highly anticipated, they never really contained anything so mind blowing that I ever felt it was worth jumping to a new custom made ROM that had it.
My advice is to get a Xoom now, or just when the new one hits the market. I'm no expert and would love tosee what other members say.

Yes...I bought mine three weeks ago.
But then again I wanted a solid tab experience and the Galaxy didnt cut it for me.
Build quality is better on the Xoom IMO - and I was lucky to snag a new one at $449.
A few things that I like about the Xoom:
- Screen quality is great on my unit - even though its an AUO.
- Sound quality is the best of any tablet. Im assuming you are using this device for media consumption and you wont be disappointed with the speaker layout or sound.
- Build quality is top notch. No Flex. Gorilla Glass.
- My unit is Wifi only (I have a tether plan if needed) and the battery life even on Stock ROM and Kernel is fantastic (rooted).
- For business use I like this tablet a lot. I can have clients sign .pdf's with ease and handle Office docs easily with QuickOffice and Repligo (Worth the $20 for a business professional)
There will always be something better because of the push to create with Android. Do yourself a favor and buy this now (if you play with it and like it of course) and if you need to upgrade in a year or so then do so.

tincbtrar said:
Yes...I bought mine three weeks ago.
But then again I wanted a solid tab experience and the Galaxy didnt cut it for me.
Build quality is better on the Xoom IMO - and I was lucky to snag a new one at $449.
A few things that I like about the Xoom:
- Screen quality is great on my unit - even though its an AUO.
- Sound quality is the best of any tablet. Im assuming you are using this device for media consumption and you wont be disappointed with the speaker layout or sound.
- Build quality is top notch. No Flex. Gorilla Glass.
- My unit is Wifi only (I have a tether plan if needed) and the battery life even on Stock ROM and Kernel is fantastic (rooted).
- For business use I like this tablet a lot. I can have clients sign .pdf's with ease and handle Office docs easily with QuickOffice and Repligo (Worth the $20 for a business professional)
There will always be something better because of the push to create with Android. Do yourself a favor and buy this now (if you play with it and like it of course) and if you need to upgrade in a year or so then do so.
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I echo those sentiments.

i agree too, i bought mine even after i found out that motorola is preparing a quad core tab for release soon, but if i kept waiting for the latest then i will never end up buying anything, and i understand that every open source tablet with android is supported with updates for 18 months maybe ? i remember i read that somewhere, so motorola and google now as one company will support updates for us till october 2012 so i am pretty sure we will also get ICS

I just put my TP on e-bay. Now my TP had a OC 1.7 dual core with a gig of ram and a great GPU and IMO the best speaker system you could want. Once honeycomb gets put on it it will rock and be one of the best tabs there are right now IMO.
But i still sold it. I need HDMI out, SD card reader and the accessory support. I got a wifi only xoom for 310 shipped on ebay.
So really its up to you lol

I bought my xoom 3g second hand for 275. Loving it. But if price wasn't an issue, I might have gone with a galaxy tab 10.1 because it is a lot lighter which I think is important for a device you are going to be hold up to read a lot. Samsung manufactures excellent screens as well.

s14tam said:
I bought my xoom 3g second hand for 275. Loving it. But if price wasn't an issue, I might have gone with a galaxy tab 10.1 because it is a lot lighter which I think is important for a device you are going to be hold up to read a lot. Samsung manufactures excellent screens as well.
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Xoom is better imho...you got a fantastic deal. Enjoy it and don't look back.

The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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Its funny u say that, ur like my girl, all apple. But I do catch her on my xoom!. Like the iPhone, most of them are girls.
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3devious said:
The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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I couldn't disagree more. There's nothing juvenile about the Xoom or android. The Xoom is for people who enjoy making the tablet their own. But YMMV.

3devious said:
The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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Sorry man, the iPad is really good at many things and really bad at many things. Most importantly though, the iPad is the dumbest way to do a smart thing (usually, there are exceptions). If you are truly smart, you don't need preschool level hand holding, or ridiculous restrictions, to get things done.
Android is far more likely to be used by smart people than an iPad. Sorry but it's true. This doesn't mean there are no smart people using iPads, it simply means there are more dumb people using iPads than there are dumb people using Xooms(or other Android tablets). I say this because it's simple logistics. If you are dumb and you are looking at tablets, the only guidance you are likely to get is to buy an iPad. Just go into most retail outlets and watch what they push on the inexperienced.
Also, I agree that the best tablets will be the tablets that run a full OS. However, we are at least 10-12 months away from Windows 8. I wouldn't recommend a Windows tablet until Windows 8 is released.
Having said all this, I don't really like to call people dumb. Less experienced is a more appropriate description most of the time. There are, however, some people who really are just dumb.
I have had the iPad, several crappy and cheap Android tablets, The Nook Color, Acer Iconia A500, HP Touchpad, and (as of yesterday) the Motorola Xoom.
I chose the Xoom because I think it will receive the most love from Google in the future. This is for obvious reasons. I also chose the Xoom because it has accessory and dock options, expandable memory slot, and HDMI out without any proprietary adapters. I have just started to mess with this device but I do like the feel of it and it seems to be very well built.
My initial impression, in comparison to the Iconia, is that the performance is much smoother. One of the things about the Iconia was that the stock rom was very laggy at times. I haven't noticed this with the Xoom yet. Also, there isn't any add-on crap on the Xoom either. I prefer mostly stock Android, and the Iconia had a couple (in my opinion stupid) enhancements. This may explain the difference in performance. The only cool thing, I will miss, on the Iconia is the full size USB port.
I look forward to seeing what I can do with this device. It should work well with my SGS II.

Yea..im gonna wait until after Christmas and grab me a Xoom. mainly cause i don't have the money now lol. Or else i'd grab one now. But im happy playing with my Flashed GTab for the moment.
Don't know why i NEED a Xoom. Maybe the sexiness of it. Im not a Flasher. (Mine was already flashed when i got it). So Xoom already having 3.1 and upgradeable over the air right? Should be good enough for me.

Is 370$ good price for the xoom?
I will study in college soon and i am wondering if the xoom will suit me?

romdroid. said:
Is 370$ good price for the xoom?
I will study in college soon and i am wondering if the xoom will suit me?
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It's quite a good price. I think it should suit you fine.

Don't misunderstand. I recommended the iPad 2 for business solely because of the raw power of the cpu and the gpu. When combined with the robustness of the productivity software, it's a smarter choice for business for the money.
This isn't an emotional choice. If I had what I wanted, it would be something as powerful as the A9 processor with that gpu running win8.
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I recommend it. I love my Xoom and cannot imagine a life without it.
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Is it worth buying now? Absolutely
Will the price be lower in a month or 2? Absolutely
Will something better be released in 4-6 months? Absolutely

how much is the retail price in the us? there is a dude in ebay who wants 400$ for it but i think its pretty much because its the retail price in US..to bad i cant get hold of one here in sweden..

romdroid. said:
how much is the retail price in the us? there is a dude in ebay who wants 400$ for it but i think its pretty much because its the retail price in US..to bad i cant get hold of one here in sweden..
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It is 399 for refurbished here. 499 is typical otherwise.
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New iPad in the house

My wife has never embraced anything in the technological realm but when all her girlfriends started getting iPads, she felt like she was missing something and decided to climb on board. I actually encouraged this because I knew that she would become addicted to the usefulness of a tablet in very short time. That would bring an end to the evil looks I get every time I pick up a new toy such as my GTab.
We picked up the New iPad today. I compared it side by side to the iPad 2 and while the screen was better, I did not see a huge improvement in everyday usage. Sure, movies and photos looked a little better but all the other apps displayed about the same to me.
This is our family's first iPad so a lot of this stuff is new to me. On the negetive side, it is clear that the closed environment that defines Apple makes things a lot less fun and can be limiting, On the other hand, I have to admit that this thing is smooth as silk. Even better, it integrates with other Apple devices easily and seamlessly. We both have iPhones so sending free texts and making Facetime video phone call between the phones and the iPad is really easy and fun. I did not realize that you could make free video calls between Apple devices without using any 3G data as long as both devices are hooked up to WIFI. Very cool.
It will be a while before I can provide a real comparison between the New iPad and my GT 10.1 but I do have some first impressions. One thing that Apple has always been able to provide is a useful device that simply works... period. The new iPad is no exception.
On the other hand, some of the apps that I rely on all the time, such as a GPS app that does not require a 3G connection, are not currently available for the iPad. If you have a WIFI only device and cannot use it as a GPS, that is a big negetive.
Also on the negetive side is how the New iPad heats up while in use. This device will absolutely require a case on the back side to dissipate the heat. It is unclear to me at this point if the different form factor will produce a less enjoyable viewing experience for movies and for reading ebooks but the shape is certainly something that sets the iPad apart from the GTab.
More later.
Bob

no SIRI on ipad3 either.
How stupid
Apple does SUCH a good job at building the hardware & providing software updates. But sucks in terms of OPEN-ness.
Samsung cant even get ANYONE ICS. phone or pad. its turning into a giant joke

I've had a few mobile Apple devices before, and they are indeed smooth as silk. I personally wish Android was just as smooth, not because I care, but because that's how average users judge a device. (not really sure why)
In my opinion much more people would choose Android over Apple if the animations were stripped out, and they made their decision purely based on the features given. The only thing I ever liked about Apple was how you could keep your devices in sync, but now that Google Play is out Google gains a win in that category as well. (keep in mind I hate iTunes, it's a POS on Windows)
iPads are pretty entertaining though, I've seen some people pick them up just so they can swipe between homescreens. lol

Umm, maybe post this in an Apple forum?
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SaneinOne said:
Umm, maybe post this in an Apple forum?
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I think you missed the point. I love my GTab and now have the new iPad to compare it to. There is lots to like about the new iPad but I am keeping my GTab. This is just an educational post.
Bob

We don't have an Apple forum
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dsafety said:
I think you missed the point. I love my GTab and now have the new iPad to compare it to. There is lots to like about the new iPad but I am keeping my GTab. This is just an educational post.
Bob
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I had been wondering how it'd compare... Thanks for the thread.
Just curious, how does the 10.1 display fare against the "revolutionary" ipad3 display?
ICS will soon be rolling out for the 10.1 and it will be as smooth as butter~
Currently running ICS on my GS2, it is amazing - as smooth as IOS but alot faster!
Currently on the 10.1v which is running on normal TFT LCD, im thinking of comparing it with the the 10.1 PLS/IPS LCDs... it's a great tab but i just feel deprived of pretty colours...

Thanks for the comparison. Apple makes good products, and they certainly have the marketing down.
I thought this was kind of funny.
http://gizmodo.com/5894094/we-people-an-ipad-2-told-them-it-was-the-new-ipad-and-they-loved-it

SnowWaltz said:
I had been wondering how it'd compare... Thanks for the thread.
Just curious, how does the 10.1 display fare against the "revolutionary" ipad3 display?
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I know that the iPad screen is better but the GTab is still pretty darn good. Based on my observations, the GTab screen is probably somewhere between the older and new iPad. Please keep in mind that there is no noticeable difference until you get into viewing photos or high-def movies.
If it were me, I would not have spent the extra money for the New Ipad, choosing instead to pick up a discounted older model if I had to have an iPad. I cannot see much difference between the new one and the iPad 2.With my wife, there is the "Coolness" factor to be considered so that is the direction we went.
Those of us who have gotten used to the freedom that rooted Android tablets offer can sit back and smile knowingly when the iPad fanboys and girls go all giggly about this new version. While I was forking over $540 for my wife's new toy, I asked the very helpful girl at the Apple store if there was an app for the iPad that would turn it into a GPS device that would work when not connected to WIFI or 3G. She said no and then gave me an incredulous look when I showed her the CoPilot app running on my GTab.
Apple products are great but it would be a mistake to make the assumption that they are always better than the competition. If my wife asked me to trade my GTab for her new iPad, I would have to turn her down.
Just one guy's opinion.
Bob

dsafety said:
I know that the iPad screen is better but the GTab is still pretty darn good. Based on my observations, the GTab screen is probably somewhere between the older and new iPad. Please keep in mind that there is no noticeable difference until you get into viewing photos or high-def movies.
If it were me, I would not have spent the extra money for the New Ipad, choosing instead to pick up a discounted older model if I had to have an iPad. I cannot see much difference between the new one and the iPad 2.With my wife, there is the "Coolness" factor to be considered so that is the direction we went.
Those of us who have gotten used to the freedom that rooted Android tablets offer can sit back and smile knowingly when the iPad fanboys and girls go all giggly about this new version. While I was forking over $540 for my wife's new toy, I asked the very helpful girl at the Apple store if there was an app for the iPad that would turn it into a GPS device that would work when not connected to WIFI or 3G. She said no and then gave me an incredulous look when I showed her the CoPilot app running on my GTab.
Apple products are great but it would be a mistake to make the assumption that they are always better than the competition. If my wife asked me to trade my GTab for her new iPad, I would have to turn her down.
Just one guy's opinion.
Bob
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Funny u say that
Cos im considering selling my gtab for the ipad 3 :L and yes i have tried ics on the tab, and yes its pretty awesome. But i prefer the ipads web browsing and screen. :L
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I've got a Gtab and got the new iPad on order I'll get it on Tuesday will post my thoughts on it as well later next week.
As much as I adore my Gtab its the lack of quality tablet apps presently on android that let's it down, the openness of Android is far superior than the closed eco system of iOS but jailbreaking it allows some extra useful tweaks, had an iPod touch before and jailbreaking it opened it up a little with customisation of icons and such.
Running aokp on the Gtab and it flies!
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I've got a Gtab and got the new iPad on order I'll get it on Tuesday will post my thoughts on it as well later next week.
As much as I adore my Gtab its the lack of quality tablet apps presently on android that let's it down, the openness of Android is far superior than the closed eco system of iOS but jailbreaking it allows some extra useful tweaks, had an iPod touch before and jailbreaking it opened it up a little with customisation of icons and such.
Running aokp on the Gtab and it flies!
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I've got a Gtab and got the new iPad on order I'll get it on Tuesday will post my thoughts on it as well later next week.
As much as I adore my Gtab its the lack of quality tablet apps presently on android that let's it down, the openness of Android is far superior than the closed eco system of iOS but jailbreaking it allows some extra useful tweaks, had an iPod touch before and jailbreaking it opened it up a little with customisation of icons and such.
Running aokp on the Gtab and it flies!
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Agreed
This is tempting me to an ipad aswell. Also the screen ofc
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adamski123 said:
Agreed
This is tempting me to an ipad aswell. Also the screen ofc
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If you've got Tesco credit card you can get it for 6 months interest free, done mine that way so I can always flog it in a few months and get most my money back if I get bored of it.
Will have a good play one of them will be sold either the iPad or the Gtab. I've always been a fan of Apple products as well as Android love my SGS2 and will never get an iPhone.
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If you've got Tesco credit card you can get it for 6 months interest free, done mine that way so I can always flog it in a few months and get most my money back if I get bored of it.
Will have a good play one of them will be sold either the iPad or the Gtab. I've always been a fan of Apple products as well as Android love my SGS2 and will never get an iPhone.
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Ooh that sounds tempting. Its just getting a gd enough price for my gtab off ebay :L
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If you've got Tesco credit card you can get it for 6 months interest free, done mine that way so I can always flog it in a few months and get most my money back if I get bored of it.
Will have a good play one of them will be sold either the iPad or the Gtab. I've always been a fan of Apple products as well as Android love my SGS2 and will never get an iPhone.
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But yeh gimme ur thoughts.
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But yeh gimme ur thoughts.
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Will do fella, eagerly awaiting a jailbreak to unlock its full potential don't think it's too far away though.
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Looking for the best BUDGET tablet

I want the BEST deal possible
I want the most bang for my buck
perhaps an up and coming release
or the most popular tablet already available.
I have nothing but time and the first tablet i bought was an ipad and it was super cheap due to an amazing deal.
I've done a lot of research of my own and this is my final step, I'm hoping the -always smart- people on here can help a brother out.

blaziner18 said:
I want the BEST deal possible
I want the most bang for my buck
perhaps an up and coming release
or the most popular tablet already available.
I have nothing but time and the first tablet i bought was an ipad and it was super cheap due to an amazing deal.
I've done a lot of research of my own and this is my final step, I'm hoping the -always smart- people on here can help a brother out.
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Nexus 7 by a billion gazillion miles. 1080p screen, serviceable dual cameras, immediate updates, quad core GPU, stereo speakers.
Or maybe the N10? The new one isn't here yet, so you should prolly wait a little.
Currently, nobody can beat Apple at tablets, though. Just my opinion. Seems there are more apps that are optimized for the large screen.

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Nexus 7 by a billion gazillion miles. 1080p screen, serviceable dual cameras, immediate updates, quad core GPU, stereo speakers.
Or maybe the N10? The new one isn't here yet, so you should prolly wait a little.
Currently, nobody can beat Apple at tablets, though. Just my opinion. Seems there are more apps that are optimized for the large screen.
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lol i was JUST watching this
http://cnettv.cnet.com/8301-13484_5...efight-google-new-nexus-7-vs-apple-ipad-mini/
thanx to this video -that comes off fairly biased- Ive been doing more and more research on the nexus.
my problem with the nexus is it`s date. technology is always being updated and I would be choked if a month passed and the next best thing gets released.

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lol i was JUST watching this
http://cnettv.cnet.com/8301-13484_5...efight-google-new-nexus-7-vs-apple-ipad-mini/
thanx to this video -that comes off fairly biased- Ive been doing more and more research on the nexus.
my problem with the nexus is it`s date. technology is always being updated and I would be choked if a month passed and the next best thing gets released.
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For $230, you can't expect something like that to be future-proofed. What you could do is sell your old device in an emerging market, where the demand is high and supply low, and use that extra cash to upgrade frequently. But the N7 def has more to it than just the hardware. It is as close as you can get to the stock experience, so there is very little lag. And there is longer support by Google. It gets a lot of dev attention. It is also very cheap.
Seriously, if you want a good deal, the N7 is the way to go.

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For $230, you can't expect something like that to be future-proofed. What you could do is sell your old device in an emerging market, where the demand is high and supply low, and use that extra cash to upgrade frequently. But the N7 def has more to it than just the hardware. It is as close as you can get to the stock experience, so there is very little lag. And there is longer support by Google. It gets a lot of dev attention. It is also very cheap.
Seriously, if you want a good deal, the N7 is the way to go.
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NOTHING better then this?
I may even pick the bugger up 2marrow.
or perhaps I'm looking for a tablet? I'm not sure if a mini tablet is whats best for me.
Any suggestions for a good cheap normal tablet?

blaziner18 said:
NOTHING better then this?
I may even pick the bugger up 2marrow.
or perhaps I'm looking for a tablet? I'm not sure if a mini tablet is whats best for me.
Any suggestions for a good cheap normal tablet?
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You could wait for the Nexus 10. But yeah, there really isn't much selection as far as budget Android tablets (or any Android tablets) go.

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You could wait for the Nexus 10. But yeah, there really isn't much selection as far as budget Android tablets (or any Android tablets) go.
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you sold me
2morrow i will be picking up me new nexus 7 32 gig
UNLESS someone can change my mind
lol i just got the idea to buy a tablet like an hour ago.

blaziner18 said:
lol i just got the idea to buy a tablet like an hour ago.
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Uhhh... you may want to think this through. While you do have a limited return period, it is best to read a good amount before investing in anything. Unless you have money to burn...

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Uhhh... you may want to think this through. While you do have a limited return period, it is best to read a good amount before investing in anything. Unless you have money to burn...
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well technically i decided about 3 hours ago and have been doing none stop research. Everyones telling me nexus, i'm loving everything about nexus. 200+ dollars doesn't break the bank and i cannot find anything better.
I normally do tons of research, but i think this is an easy call right here.
took me litterely 2 months to pic out my ms g60 gaming laptop
however i was in china atm, so i probably could of chosen better, but in china that was an amazing deal.

alright
bed time, will check this thread in 7 hours.

Be sure to get the new N7 for that price by the way not the 2012 model.
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