*** THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER EFFORT TO CREATE YET ANOTHER CUSTOM ROM***
Though Android is opensource, a lot of things are unknown regarding ROM development/modification. There are many custom ROMs available for Galaxy 3 (and also other phones) and lot of people are flashing them and making their phone more responsive, productive and faster; but very few people actually knew how to go about developing the ROM.
What I intend here is to find out and document correct way to build ROM for our favorite Galaxy 3, which is very popular in India.
The goal will be to develop the ROM from Android source + Drivers from stock ROM while documenting the process so that large number of people can contribute to the development.
I will shortly update the posts with what I have done.
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Can anyone help me convert system.img and userdata.img file into files flash-able by ODIN?
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looking forward to what you come up with
Making one aint difficult keeping it bug free might get sometimes
Thanks rudolf895
I have experience in Android SDK and NDK development, but I am a noob when it comes to ROM development. Thats why this effort.
I have fetched android source using repo as well as I have also downloaded source for I5801 from Samsung open source website. After this I will look into extracting drivers from stock ROM and successfully compiling it for Galaxy 3.
rudolf895 said:
looking forward to what you come up with
Making one aint difficult keeping it bug free might get sometimes
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abhijeet.pathak said:
thanks rudolf895
i have experience in android sdk and ndk development, but i am a noob when it comes to rom development. Thats why this effort.
I have fetched android source using repo as well as i have also downloaded source for i5801 from samsung open source website. After this i will look into extracting drivers from stock rom and successfully compiling it for galaxy 3.
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best of luck
Looking forward to it!
abhijeet.pathak said:
Thanks rudolf895
I have experience in Android SDK and NDK development, but I am a noob when it comes to ROM development. Thats why this effort.
I have fetched android source using repo as well as I have also downloaded source for I5801 from Samsung open source website. After this I will look into extracting drivers from stock ROM and successfully compiling it for Galaxy 3.
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Thanks!
Thanks a lot for your support guys..
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hehe, cant wait to see what you come up with, sounds promissing btw... i am also willing to help whereever i can, whereas this wont be too much in this case i guess.
good luck and thanx...
TY ..!
Thanx alot
This would be really helpful to alot of members here
interesting ! waiting ....
I applaud your thread, I myself was thinking about such a concept.
I wanna help, but I cant do that much (basic knowledge of C and basic/little knowledge of linux and adb).
I think first there should be a list of basic stuff. Like compiling the sources, extracting factoryrfs and co from your phone etc... Sometimes if you wanna start doing something and you dont know the basics you get scared off because of their apparent tremendous lack of knowledge.
I'd probably start dabbling if somebody told me how to compile the sources.
can you also specify your work environment, toolchain and such stuff, so anyone can start from zero? there is a kernel building vm image with all tools by sztupy somewhere on the forum that is eventually of interest, and there is also an extended version containing eclipse and some more tools for full android development:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882010
hope this helps somebody...
Did you try using it? I think the scripts are specific and cant be used by us (without altercation)
no, i have absolutely no idea of kernel compilation and all that advanced stuff, but i guess it can be adapted for our use
Yup...me too in waitin line...Now i can say i dint made a mistake by buying it...
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abhijeet.pathak said:
Can anyone help me convert system.img and userdata.img file into files flash-able by ODIN?
Thanks
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maybe you can create a ".tar" package including all those files.. .tar is flashable in odin..
Note to Mods..
Kindly dont move it to the General section. This thread is about Rom development, and discusses a serious issue about the future of development in the Desire section, and whether we devs should continue to work here..
Some of us are getting irritated at this absolute proliferation of "me-too" roms..Roms which are apparently exact copies of others out there, taking all the files from them, deleting a few files (cut-copy-paste), and releasing it as the new "dev"'s own work..
In this context, I'd like to propose a list of questions a wanna-be Rom dev should ask himself/herself before starting a Rom thread here.
Can you smali and baksmali files individually?
Are you familiar with Edify and Amend?
Do you know about Kernel ramdisk loading, bootclasses and MTD layouts?
Are you familiar with adb and fastboot commands and can you offer support to endusers who have problem with this?
Can you debug Edify code and built an updater-script from scratch without wholly relying on the dsixda kitchen?
Do you know how to modify frameworks, system apps and jars and debug their errors?
Are you familiar with how to port roms between devices? (applicable only if you intend to release a port)
Have you significantly modified a Rom to add new and useful content?
Have you contributed uniquely to the Rom, and not just made a cocktail of features already made by devs?
Can you write/at least understand bash scripts?
Can you compile your own kernel from source code?
The items in Bold are more important..
If the answer to most of these questions is Yes, go ahead, we'd love to have your Rom here, as you most certainly have what it takes to release a finished product.. If not, think thrice before posting a Rom. We cant prevent you from posting in the Dev section, but be forewarned that it might be an invitation for flaming! If your purpose in posting a Rom is to learn development yourself, and you've made a Rom which uses >=80 % of another Dev's work, it may be better to release it as a "ROM-Mod" and work on it further,.
Another suggestion is to use the prefix [ROM] for something which is built originally, and [Rom-MOD] for others with minimal changes from a source Rom, and the latter should give proper credits to the source...
Before posting a new Rom, ask yourself the following questions:
What is the difference between your Rom and the Base?
Have you done active development, other than delete a few files/mix a few files/themes?
Is there a significant difference between your Rom and other Roms out there/your source, in terms of new features added?
The following is a list of items which are not considered development:
Using another Dev's original ROM as your base, where you :
Only add mods from yet another developer/rom
Do not include any actual development done by you in the form of code in bash scripts/updater-script/compiled binaries which add some new functionality to the original Rom
Only mix the source Rom with themes/apps created by another developer
Only remove/add some apps from the source rom, in the process reducing its size
In case the difference between the base Rom and the new Rom is very marginal, but includes a significant development on the part of the new dev, the change from base rom should be clearly documented as part of a changelog attached in the thread OP.
If your purpose in starting a Rom thread is to study to develop, you can clear questions related to development by using the Developer Google plus Huddle maintained here
What do you guys think? Should we suggest to the mod team to append this to the list of rules for posting? Feel free to add your suggestions/criticism/opinion
Droidzone said:
Note to Mods..
Kindly dont move it to the General section. This thread is about Rom development, and discusses a serious issue about the future of development in the Desire section, and whether we devs should continue to work here..
Some of us are getting irritated at this absolute proliferation of "me-too" roms..Roms which are apparently exact copies of others out there, taking all the files from them, deleting a few files (cut-copy-paste), and releasing it as the new "dev"'s own work..
In this context, I'd like to propose a list of questions a wanna-be Rom dev should ask before starting a Rom thread here.
Can you smali and baksmali files individually?
Are you familiar with Edify and Amend?
Do you know about Kernel ramdisk loading, bootclasses and MTD layouts?
Are you familiar with adb and fastboot commands and can you offer support to endusers who have problem with this?
Can you debug Edify code and built an updater-script from scratch without wholly relying on the dsixda kitchen?
Do you know how to modify fameworks, system apps and jars and debug their errors?
Are you familiar with how to port roms between devices?
Have you significantly modified a Rom to add new and useful content?
Have you contributed uniquely to the Rom, and not just made a cocktail of features already made by devs?
Can you write/at least understand bash scripts?
Can you compile your own kernel from source code?
If the answer to most of these questions is Yes, go ahead, we'd love to have your Rom here.. If not, think thrice before posting a Rom. We cant prevent you from posting in the Dev section, but be forewarned that it might be an invitation for flaming!
What do you guys think? Should we suggest to the mod team to append this to the list of rules for posting? Feel free to add your suggestions/criticism/opinion
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Droidzone, your totally right, there are like 3-4 same roms ... This is jus madness... Get those copyers out now ;o
Greetz
Sent from my HTC Runnymede using XDA App
Totally agree with the statement. There are too many Roms that are 99% the same which makes it not easy to choose one, especially for people with not much experience relating to Roms. On the other side, don't make those "rules" too strict as this is a possible entry barrier for new Rom developers and would limit the varierity.
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Totally agree with the statement. There are too many Roms that are 99% the same which makes it not easy to choose one, especially for people with not much experience relating to Roms. On the other side, don't make those "rules" too strict as this is a possible entry barrier for new Rom developers and would limit the varierity.
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Totally agree.
Agree 100% , if your just 'adjusting' or 'modding' a rom place the file in a post on original Rom thread , if its a good mod I'm sure users will apteciate it and the original dev may put on op or even enhance the official rom from it.
This way those would be devs will gain respect and learn the trade , without annoying everyone with 'copies' .
Otherwise we could set up a 'mods' section on the forumn to move all copied roms to, would clear the clutter.
Cheers all devs
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AGREED ...
I am leaning towards learning ROM development myself but there is so much to learn and because i have this interest i have downloaded Ubuntu 10.04 and i am starting to learn how that works and i'll take it from there.
I mod almost every ROM i use before i flash it and trust me 7zip and notepad++ dont make you a DEV, YES it is always nice to see new DEVs and work being released but like back in the froyo days there was 3 Sense 1.9 ROMs that i tested, namely AuraxTSense, LeeDroid and Startburst. Even though they seemed the same they are very different and unique...
Now if you look @ AcedOff, Aurora and CoolAces3D, they are all Cools work and are no different and suffer from the same bugs. All these ROMs are creating is congestion.
Or we could all just use our common sense.
Got to be careful of making a l knee jerk reaction to one or two roms. I found the new stock gingerbread very useful, and that cooker was not a Dev as described by the rules above.
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Totally agree with the statement. There are too many Roms that are 99% the same which makes it not easy to choose one, especially for people with not much experience relating to Roms. On the other side, don't make those "rules" too strict as this is a possible entry barrier for new Rom developers and would limit the varierity.
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100% agree.
I started messing around with redux source code, intergrated android 2.3.5 source into it, modified jar files, added code, removed code and compiled a unique ROM. I can debug it and can answer yes to maybe half of those questions...
Can you smali and baksmali files individually? Never tried
Are you familiar with Edify and Amend? yes
Do you know about Kernel ramdisk loading, bootclasses and MTD layouts?Maybe, No, Yes
Are you familiar with adb and fastboot commands and can you offer support to endusers who have problem with this? Yes
Can you debug Edify code and built an updater-script from scratch without wholly relying on the dsixda kitchen? Probably
Do you know how to modify frameworks, system apps and jars and debug their errors? Yes
Are you familiar with how to port roms between devices? Sort of
Have you significantly modified a Rom to add new and useful content? Yes
Have you contributed uniquely to the Rom, and not just made a cocktail of features already made by devs? Not really, I haven't invented my own mods
Can you write/at least understand bash scripts? Partly
Can you compile your own kernel from source code? Probably, Never tried. Can compile ROMs and Recoveries.
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I can completely support my ROM and it isn't a simple clone, but too strict would create a barrier for me at least.
But I am sick to death of seeing people with "recognised Developer" status for simply running someone else's ROM through dsixda kitchen and selecting all the options - Surely this belittles the whole recognition?!
Perhaps the question should be:
Did you install someone elses rom, flash a couple of mods then run the backup through dsixda kitchen?
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Got to be careful of making a l knee jerk reaction to one or two roms. I found the new stock gingerbread very useful, and that cooker was not a Dev as described by the rules above.
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The new stock gingerbread could have been had from teppic's thread posted many weeks ago (with additional mods). In fact, any newbie could easily have made it by running the zip available from HTC's site through dsixda's kitchen, which is whom the kitchen is intended for..
@3f1f37
Before the start again: But AceSMod007-3D is from me and not from coolexe! Otherwise it would not have been unlocked again my thread!!
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100% agree.
I started messing around with redux source code, intergrated android 2.3.5 source into it, modified jar files, added code, removed code and compiled a unique ROM. I can debug it and can answer yes to maybe half of those questions...
I can completely support my ROM and it isn't a simple clone, but too strict would create a barrier for me at least.
But I am sick to death of seeing people with "recognised Developer" status for simply running someone else's ROM through dsixda kitchen and selecting all the options - Surely this belittles the whole recognition?!
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@rootsu, yours isnt a clone of anything, and if anything deserves Rom status, it's a Rom built from Android source and modified periodically..
I dont mean the dev should satisfy all these criteria at the time of his first build..
At least he should have done original development of his own..which includes things other than cut-copy-paste and changing hboot/fitting a rom built by another dev on another partition layout..
In any case, these are just suggestions...Maybe it could be a guide for future devs to let them know that blatant copying of someone else's work is not acceptable to the community at large
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@3f1f37
Before the start again: But AceSMod007-3D is from me and not from coolexe! Otherwise it would not have been unlocked again my thread!!
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Yo Micheal
I was in no way taking a shot at your work buddy, i am refering to ACED OFF!!! and not your AcesMod007.
I know there is a differences between you work and coolexe's, actually i commend you for your time and effort. You and cool remind of Baadnwz and Robocik from 1st half of this year, when the Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrids were coming out. They had similar features but were unique, this applies to both your work and cools.
To further put a feather in your hat, i am im-patiently waiting for your SagasMod007-3D to come out of beta as i follow your work very closely
You could be in danger of alienating noobs who come on here for advise, who want to learn to develop a rom from source or from a ruu. Surely the way to start to learn is from the start!
Not everybody has the knowledge like u Droidzone, but u never had it once either. You learn by doing.
I said im not a dev, i did mine cus there wasn't one out there that fitted for me.Now if i think that then somebody else might, so it helps them to.Surely this is where u start to learn. Granted if there was a rom somebody posted exactly like mine id be like wtf, so i do understand.
Honestly, the dev section is not (imho) for newbies who want to learn to develop, but for developers who have their own contribution to add to the forum..In other words, something genuinely developed by them, and not using the kitchen to select 1,2,3 and make a zip..
For learning to develop, why not make a thread in the General/Q&A section and make a collaborative effort? Then once there is an actual developed product, anyone can release it here.. Agreed, there was a time when I knew nought.. But by the time I released my first rom, I did know enough..Look at people like rootsu who were helping people out for years and learning the tricks of the trade, so to speak, before releasing their first product?
I fail to understand how anyone can call using a bash script and selecting a couple of options as development.. dsixda's kitchen, in dsixda's own words, is intended for newbies to modify a rom for personal use, and in his own words: 'dont expect the kitchen to transform you into a developer overnight'..
Mods are mods, and original roms are that.. Maybe mods can be released in the General section..
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You could be in danger of alienating noobs who come on here for advise, who want to learn to develop a rom from source or from a ruu. Surely the way to start to learn is from the start!
Not everybody has the knowledge like u Droidzone, but u never had it once either. You learn by doing.
I said im not a dev, i did mine cus there wasn't one out there that fitted for me.Now if i think that then somebody else might, so it helps them to.Surely this is where u start to learn. Granted if there was a rom somebody posted exactly like mine id be like wtf, so i do understand.
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For me, using dsixda to make stock roms is ok, so long as there arent loads of them available or they offer something different.
My personal issue (without naming names) is someone taking an AOSP ROM or even a Sense Port that is already released by a dev, runnig it through dsixda to add nanotext editor, a2sd+, zipalign or someone else's kernel, then release it as their own ROM and call themselves "Dev".
I personally do not see myself as a Dev. I couldn't take a ROM from another device, and make it work on the desire, or build a ROM for another device without the vendor and device directories from a working repository. I think I am a compiler at best. I can take source code from here and there, put it all together and compile a working ROM.
If I can't call myself a dev but people who take other people's roms and run through the kitchen then call themselves a dev, theres something wrong there. And then XDA supports them with "recognised developer" status
EDIT> @ Droidzone - I would definitely support a Development Q&A Subforum here. I can't believe we haven't got one. I'm sure devs would visit that to help, rather than n00b central (i.e Q&A)
i do agree there droidzone, a dedicated place for people to learn is what this needs.
if it had the support from people like rootsu(who has helped me no end) then it can benefit everybody.
But the support needs to be there not just from the odd one or two.
Droidzone said:
The new stock gingerbread could have been had from teppic's thread posted many weeks ago (with additional mods). In fact, any newbie could easily have made it by running the zip available from HTC's site through dsixda's kitchen, which is whom the kitchen is intended for..
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I don't have a PC. So its been very useful. and not something I could of easily done. Or have the time. Its a nice upgrade. We shouldn't limit what's available to the rules of the first post.
Can a mod move this thread, its in the wrong section lol only messing, i can see your point of view, you bust your balls to make a rom and fix it and then someone adds a few tweaks and mas it their own, and they think cause they thank you, it makes everything ok, and its not being selfish on your part, you take another rom from a phone that isnt ours, transform that rom so that it works on our phone, to me that is amazing, you put all that effort in and then you must be so proud when you hav finished and majority of people are happy, i can ee how it hurts when someone changes a few things, problem is, youll never win, how many times do things get posted cause someone cant search, anyway to all the devs, keep up the hard work because 99% of the world appreciate your work, dont let the 1% spoil it for the rest !
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Or we could all just use our common sense.
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This completely.
Hi everyone. I was given this NS-14T002 tablet for Christmas and after speaking to an insignia employee they promised the update from 4.2.2 to KitKat to be sometime in early summer or late April. Well as you can tell they're a bunch of liars. They recently release a new tablet called NS-15at08 with almost the exact same specs, the only difference being it has a rear camera and it has 1.4 GHz instead of a 1.2 GHz processor. Most importantly the NS-15at08 runs on KitKat. The tasty chocolate I so desire!
Anyways I'm curious as to how difficult it would it be to port it over. I've never ever ported a thing so I'm a bit worried about that but I need myself some chocolate.
My next thought was finding a well-known tablet with the same specs as mine and flashing a custom ROM made for that device. Would this or would this not work? This was actually my preferred way of solving this horrible issue since it would be mean I would most likely also receive Android L. I scoured the web for a device with similar specs but returned empty handed.
Maybe you can help? Here's the specs let me know if you need more information.
Height0.4"
Width8.2"
Depth6.2"
Weight1.2 lbs.
Wi-Fi Built In
InternalHDMI
Ports1Bluetooth
cell lithium-ionpolymer
Operating System 4.2 Jelly Bean
DriveCapacity8GB
Capacity8GBProcessor
BrandRockchipGPS
(RAM)1GBDisplay
TypeCapacitive touch panel (1024 x 768)Processor
Speed1.2GHz
Front Facing WebcamPixels2.0MP
I think this thread [GUIDE]How To Port Different ROMS to Your Device (Simplest and Fastest) would be of help to you.
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I think this thread [GUIDE]How To Port Different ROMS to Your Device (Simplest and Fastest) would be of help to you.
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I appreciate your reply but I was wondering if it would be possible to just flash rom without having to port. A ROM from a device with identical specs.
No. Never. Not unless you love expensive paperweights.
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No. Never. Not unless you love expensive paperweights.
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Okay but I just read the thread and it said I won't be able to upgrade to a newer android version which is kinda the point of me trying to port.
No you can not upgrade unless you have got Source from the Manufacturer.
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No you can not upgrade unless you have got Source from the Manufacturer.
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If I ask for source code they have to give it to me don't they?
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If I ask for source code they have to give it to me don't they?
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It depends on the manufacturer. Some might others may not.
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It depends on the manufacturer. Some might others may not.
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They said yes and they will email me the source code in a few hours. Now what? ?
You will have to Set up a Linux Build environment and start reading. A lot of reading is required in order not to brick your tablet unless you have good development background.
Here's a Starting point on some of the articles from XDA University. Please note this is just starting point.
Getting Started : Setting up Android Development Environment
How to Build an Android ROM
Porting AOSP ROMs using Source Code
Now please note the mission of XDA Assist is
The mission of XDA Assist is to provide basic help to those who have tried searching but can't find what they are looking for and need assistance. This is not a "helpdesk" providing technical assistance but more to point you in the correct direction with your problem. Perhaps you can't find posts on how to root your phone, install custom recovery or maybe you have questions about how to navigate and use features on the site
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So we are not able to help you more than this. However if you have further questions on development, you can post in
Android Development and Hacking > Android Software and Hacking General [Developers Only]
or Android Software Development
Perseus71 said:
You will have to Set up a Linux Build environment and start reading. A lot of reading is required in order not to brick your tablet unless you have good development background.
Here's a Starting point on some of the articles from XDA University. Please note this is just starting point.
Getting Started : Setting up Android Development Environment
How to Build an Android ROM
Porting AOSP ROMs using Source Code
Now please note the mission of XDA Assist is
So we are not able to help you more than this. However if you have further questions on development, you can post in
Android Development and Hacking > Android Software and Hacking General [Developers Only]
or Android Software Development[/QUOTEfun.
Gosh this sounds so much fun ??
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My device is Nokia 3 TA 1032 running Android Pie rooted using Magisk and with TWRP custom recovery with kernel version 3.18.119+ ....
Is there a custom Kernel available for this device which is 3.19 or above.?.?.
If so ...can anyone provide me the link please.?.?.
And if not...does anyone know about porting/compiling kernel for this device.?.?.
please...i need some help....
https://ibb.*co/ MCBrDtC
mechano59 said:
My device is Nokia 3 TA 1032 running Android Pie rooted using Magisk and with TWRP custom recovery with kernel version 3.18.119+ ....
Is there a custom Kernel available for this device which is 3.19 or above.?.?.
If so ...can anyone provide me the link please.?.?.
And if not...does anyone know about porting/compiling kernel for this device.?.?.
please...i need some help....
https://ibb.*co/ MCBrDtC
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I dont' know if there's a custom kernel for this device. But you can download the source code form here https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/opensource to compile it and add features by yourself.
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I dont' know if there's a custom kernel for this device. But you can download the source code form here https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_int/opensource to compile it and add features by yourself.
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https://ibb. co/WWFxSsb
sir there seems to be multiple files...which one should i download.?.?. I am really new to this...
and I will be very grateful if you can point to any tutorials or blog posts on how to modify kernels coz i cant seem to find any...
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https://ibb. co/WWFxSsb
sir there seems to be multiple files...which one should i download.?.?. I am really new to this...
and I will be very grateful if you can point to any tutorials or blog posts on how to modify kernels coz i cant seem to find any...
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To compile a kernel from source you can follow this tutorial.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/ultimate-guide-compile-android-kernel-t2871276
There are more threads, this is an example.
The build number in your screenshot (5_180) tells the number of the kernel version you need to download (i want think so ), in this case is the Nokia3_V5.180.tar.bz2 file.
Isrks said:
To compile a kernel from source you can follow this tutorial.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/ultimate-guide-compile-android-kernel-t2871276
There are more threads, this is an example.
The build number in your screenshot (5_180) tells the number of the kernel version you need to download (i want think so ), in this case is the Nokia3_V5.180.tar.bz2 file.
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Thank you very much sir....will see if i can do anything with it...
(very sorry for the late reply... )
mechano59 said:
Thank you very much sir....will see if i can do anything with it...
(very sorry for the late reply... )
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With having a linux environment you can build a kernel from source reading the guides. Adding features is more difficult because the main reason: this device has mediatek SoC.