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Is the GPS working now that Froyo is on your Captivate? I have a brand new one on the way to me via FedEx right now so I can't flash it till I get it and wonder if anyone can tell me if GPS is fixed since Froyo is now available to the phone.
It's a lot better. But its not perfect. I'm still in the 3 day "GPS is guaranteed to work better" window so time will tell
Mine doesn't work at all. With all kinds of combinations of GPS setting tweaks.
Thanks. I hope it works better. The phone is still nice so I guess I'll be happy with it even if it's not perfect.
I hope Samsung has another fix for it since it's not working for everybody
I'm doing better but it still sucks.
GPS, using GPS Satellites only with default GPS settings will not lock onto ANYTHING AT ALL for me.
With cell towers, it's 1400m accurate.
Not sure what changed between 2.2 and 2.1 but with 2.1 GPS worked great for me.
Very strange that GPS functionality is different from phone to phone, software to software.....
I do hope they release an actual total GPS fix someday.
Edit: I still like the Galaxy S phones. I know Samsung is still very high tech. It may take them awhile to catch up with what people really want with an Android phone but other than that they have have put together some very nice phones with the Galaxy S line.
mine will pull me down to 10-20 meters. and according to lbstest, it shows it as 15m accurate, full stand alone, lock in between 15s-90s.
Driving around, it was the worst it has ever been. I then used GPS Status and left it up on my dash. I generally could see 2 or 3 satellites. Once, it got up to 4. This is during a sunny day with full view of the sky.
People still seem to think they have something great if it locks in their house, but the real test is driving around and seeing if you can KEEP that lock.
I noticed using ANY of the "GPS fixes" destroyed my GPS performance. I need it set to Standalone, Cold Start, AUTO SUPL config (no supl.google.com) and none of the Jupiter XML "fixes". Stock froyo GPS seems to work OK for me -- I get locks in a reasonable amount of time, although accuracy still isn't great. I still have yet to test Google Navigation / My Tracks, however.
A lot better for me......Many sats in view. Quick locks. Google maps tracked my car pretty quickly on 2.1. I would say this is as good as can be expected from a cell phone GPS device. I have Gamins for the cars so I really won't use this as such. but on my motorcycle it works very well.
It will not be perfect and I accept that. It is A lot better though than 2.1 IMO.
It is marginally better than JH7. Still broken for sure.
Stationary it's fine and gets a pretty fast lock.
Car navigation is poor. I was getting better results in Cognition 2.1.5. Positioning is jumping around, putting me a block away about 25% of the time, getting various sizes of the blue "circle of trust" about 50% of the time. It freezes occaisonally but maybe less than in some of my previously used ROMs. I've tried all the usual setting adjustments and they haven't helped.
The GPS nav capability on the Captivate in prior ROMs has been good enough for me to declare it satisfactory. I'd say this version isn't- yet. I'm confident we'll get it back to at least what it was, but it will take some more tweaking.
Just wondering if anyone is able to get reliable GPS locks in airplane mode. I am beginning to question whether I should switch to Xperia X10. I use GPS quite a bit and don't see why I need to get another GPS when the Cappy should have a working one.
I do love everything else about the Cappy. Hate to go to an outdated system but having everything working as described is kind of nice.
In my testing and experience it is much better, but still not as it ideally should be. I get nice, fast locks in Maps, but GPS test apps are still confused. Perhaps the whole benchmark vs practice concept, but this case seems to a little outside of that realm.
I was able to get GPS lock to around 10 sats only after deactivating the "Use wireless network" option.
However, I had no nav app so i cant say how it tracks.. I am back to 2.1 now, waiting until 2.2 wont be so laggy
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Just wondering if anyone is able to get reliable GPS locks in airplane mode. I am beginning to question whether I should switch to Xperia X10. I use GPS quite a bit and don't see why I need to get another GPS when the Cappy should have a working one.
I do love everything else about the Cappy. Hate to go to an outdated system but having everything working as described is kind of nice.
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This is interesting, as I keep thinking of switching to a Galaxy S because SE's so slow about updating to 2.1 (Maybe November?) and 2.2 which is a requirement for the latest Gmail and GDocs may not come until Spring 2011 if ever.
However, GPS is extraordinary on the X10. I live on the side of a hill and I can get a lock in 3 seconds,starting with 7/7 and then 8/8 sats by 30 seconds (every option turned on). Lattitude, Navigation, Maps, etc all work wonderfully.
WiFi and GPS are the two most 'additional' features for me on a phone. I have a bit of an issue with SE's Wifi as it's only working when the phone's awake and if the screen blanks, it switches to 3G. Leaves you tethered to a plug so you can set the screen to stay on when plugged in.
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This is interesting, as I keep thinking of switching to a Galaxy S because SE's so slow about updating to 2.1 (Maybe November?) and 2.2 which is a requirement for the latest Gmail and GDocs may not come until Spring 2011 if ever.
However, GPS is extraordinary on the X10. I live on the side of a hill and I can get a lock in 3 seconds,starting with 7/7 and then 8/8 sats by 30 seconds (every option turned on). Lattitude, Navigation, Maps, etc all work wonderfully.
WiFi and GPS are the two most 'additional' features for me on a phone. I have a bit of an issue with SE's Wifi as it's only working when the phone's awake and if the screen blanks, it switches to 3G. Leaves you tethered to a plug so you can set the screen to stay on when plugged in.
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I just realized that I use GPS more than I expected. I think 2.1 without multitouch is ok for me. I am still having daily random shutdowns though mine is limited to unplugging from AC only. I am still waiting for something to happen to Cappy cause I still like it.
I have an RMA phone that I updated OTA to JH7 and yesterday i had to drive out of state and about 20 minutes before I left I updated to Froyo 2.2 stock and my GPS worked perfectly the whole way there and back. Granted it was only about two hours of total drive time ( I am really close to the state border), but it never showed me off the path it set for me and when I passed the spot I was suppsed to go to, it showed me drive past it. So I have as stock a setup as possible and my GPS worked perfectly for me. I cant tell you how many sattelites I have or how many seconds it took to lock etc., but real world road test was great. i will use it tonight on my way to and from work and maybe repost now that I have had it loaded for a day.
I was wondering if anyone else experienced EXTREME improvements today after updating Google Maps?? I am to 10-20 meters of accuracy compared to the normal 400 meters. It actually shows me at my house which is WAY WAY in the country!
Most of the time I'm at 10 meters, sometimes it'll get to 5 meters. Maybe it's improved, maybe not.
Mines still off by 5-6 miles. Odd because when i first got it my location was only off by 1/2 mile.
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I didn't get to drive but I did get a very fast navigation lock that never happens for me. Also I got a lock inside my house within 10 meters. And the navigation lock was also inside.
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Well I tried it with GPS off, here in australia, and my location was only 2 houses off. This is a massive improvement. But that's just based on cell phone towers i guess.., dunno about actual GPS improvement but that would also be nice
Noticed this as well. Was in Orchard Supply earlier and tried out the GPS because my brother was asking about it (he's been thinking about getting captivate). Was able to get a very accurate lock INSIDE the store showing in about 20 seconds where I actually was in the store which was nuts (actually it was pipe fittings aisle ). Tried navigation home from class during the afternoon and it took about 10 seconds to get a lock and never lost me the whole way. My GPS was working fine before but now it's even more accurate/faster.
I second this. I tried with the GPS at home. Locked very quickly, and about 10 meters. Navigation seems working fine too.
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Sounds like GMap finally defaults to use A-GPS mode which means faster lock. Accuacy? Not affected.
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Referring to INDOOR accuracy with GPS module off.
I'm noticing that if I have WIFI AND USE WIRELESS NETWORKS ON, the indoor accuracy has improved massively. If I turn WIFI OFF but leave Use Wireless Networks ON, I seem to get standard cell tower location of 500 - 1000 meters.
So, Im assuming this update has enabled Google's version of Skyhook in maps.
Im pretty sure thats what it is since I dont have to be connected to an access point for it to work. Just have WIFI ON.
Nice.
Everyone should disable Skyhook from the LBSmode. I had it disabled since my phone got updated to JH7 but for those how don't...
My settings from factory are:
Skyhook OFF
GPS plus OFF
I to see a improvement. I drive 80 miles one way to work and never lost lock. This has never happened before.
What is GPS plus?
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Referring to INDOOR accuracy with GPS module off.
I'm noticing that if I have WIFI AND USE WIRELESS NETWORKS ON, the indoor accuracy has improved massively. If I turn WIFI OFF but leave Use Wireless Networks ON, I seem to get standard cell tower location of 500 - 1000 meters.
So, Im assuming this update has enabled Google's version of Skyhook in maps.
Im pretty sure thats what it is since I dont have to be connected to an access point for it to work. Just have WIFI ON.
Nice.
Everyone should disable Skyhook from the LBSmode. I had it disabled since my phone got updated to JH7 but for those how don't...
My settings from factory are:
Skyhook OFF
GPS plus OFF
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Wi-fi location fix has been in Google Maps for a long time now. It is not new.
Here's my opinion on this. I have nothing to back this up other than what I interpret from behavior I have seen, so it is strictly my opinion/guess.
Ignoring any GPS hardware or software issues there may or may not be, I think that Google Nav has issues from time to time. I don't know if it is because it relies on 3g data to paint maps and determine routes or whatever, but I think it seems to "lag" sometimes. And if it gets a bit off track, it takes too long to recover. Maybe it does it more on a system that struggles with GPS accuracy a bit more, I don't know.
So, my guess would be that an update to Google maps would not contribute anything to a faster GPS lock or more accuracy from GPS, since I guess this happens at the OS level.
However, what we see when navigating, is Google NAV(maps) interpretation of the GPS. So, when it teleports you off the road maybe it's because it isn't smart enough to think, "Hey, a car doesn't just teleport off a road, so I'll wait a couple more seconds to see if it returns before I show it off the road". It already does this to some degree since your accuracy under good conditions can be 10 or 15 meters which could easily put you on a lawn or sidewalk but NAV continues to show you on the road.
So, maybe, Google Maps updates can help make the Nav experience better by being smarter about interpreting GPS data and showing your position within the context of driving a car down the road.
My $.02
Bob
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So do your maps show better accuracy or not? Since that is the topic of the thread you might as well refer to the topic. Or are you just trying to show everyone you know better?
One thing is that the feature was there, another is if it worked properly.
Now it works. Before it didn't.
My navigation isn't the best but I am thrilled to have a quick lock in the boonies where I live... GPS worked decent but lagged in little rock our biggest city.... but I haven't been to the city since the update... I'll let everyone know if it can now navigate there. ... I know my location contributes to the issues!!!! But again I was thrilled to be getting locks!
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I updated Maps yesterday and the AGPS sometimes says I'm in Georgia now(I live in PA), lol, in the middle of a highway no less. However the GPS is working better. I got my first lock ever as well as the first time my GPS has ever seen more than 3 satellites(saw 6).
All I can say is that I would be VERY surprised if an update to Google Maps helped GPS locking, how many satellites it sees, or accuracy at the GPS layer on the device.
However, I would not be surprised if a Google Maps update helped with navigation use or even placing you on a map, since it Google Maps can modify it's interpretation of the GPS position.
If your GPS was spotty before, then thinking you are seeing more satellites or better accuracy, using something like GPS Status, is just a placebo.
However, this is pure speculation on my part. I suppose it's possible that Google have modified something at the device layer that controls the GPS chip, but I'm thinking not.
My feedback would be to exchange your phone if your GPS is spotty. I did and my new phone has pretty much perfect GPS.
Bob
How can you tell the actual accuracy in ft or meters in google maps?
If anything for me GPS lock is take longer than before update.
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Mines still off by 5-6 miles. Odd because when i first got it my location was only off by 1/2 mile.
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If it is of by that much it is only giving you a network provided location...not a gps position. Turn off use wireless networks to see a gps location
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Im seeing GPS complaints starting to crop up. My two day old Infuse does not get a GPS lock at all. Figured maybe we can start a poll and see what kind of leaning we get towards GPS performance on this device and show it to Samsung should it look like its a major problem.
i've had no issues at all with my GPS...
This is my third infuse. My first one had battery issues. Second woulndnt find a GPS in the vast sky. But this one is near perfection.
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Infuse GPS - Location Difs?
I'm having a lot of trouble getting the Infuse to find the GPS. I keep getting messages that it's searching for the GPS. However, when it does find it, it works wonderfully. I live in Southern CA and having a difficult time here. It's not locating me correctly and is unable to provide navigation more than half the time. However, in Northern CA last week, it was working well. Do you think that the location makes a difference - or is it something with the individual phone?
Can't be I'm in sandy eggo. My second infuse didnt find any signal while my friend two feet away with an infuse had it working in two seconds.
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dont try these side by side comparisons unless you clear nmea data on both devices before hand. it can be difficult for the gps chip to download the data from the satalites directly. another device may have downloded data that is still current at any time. side by side in only side by side if both devices have a cold start and are working in the same mode.
if you have trouble with initial locks go to the phone dialer and type *#*#3214789650#*#* it should take you to lbs test mode. it can also be launched with launcher pro activities. in lbs test mode delete gps data then go to supl/cp settings. write down the supl server and port. try a different supl server like supl.google.com with secure socket set to off and the port set to 7275. or you can set it to auto config. if none of that helps try setting the gps to msbased in application settings. msbased will use cell towers to download nmea data and give the gps chip a head start.
some phones (like my captivate) dont like ms based mode for tracking but my infuse works great with msbased and supl server set to auto config. if none of that helps trade in the phone, you have a defective unit.
there were situations where a factory reset helped on the captivate but mine suffered from a specific bug where the glgps daemon would crash with certain settings, wiping gps data did not solve the problem but a factory reset did. i dont think the infuse suffers from this bug but it couldnt hurt to try a factory reset.
Another GPS post. Fine, 7-8 gps locks no problem between 3 states. I guess if you can't beat them join them.
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Second infuse, first had GPS issues
Even if it only works sometimes, it blows the doors off the Captivate.
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Even if it only works sometimes, it blows the doors off the Captivate.
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I hope these are isolated incidents. I can't believe that Samsung would release another device with GPS issues.
After reading the OP's thread title, I was really hoping for something more exciting, haha
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I hope these are isolated incidents. I can't believe that Samsung would release another device with GPS issues.
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I think that it's likely there's some user issues. As in, "it doesn't lock on in the 3rd basement of my concrete and lead bunker, therefore it sucks".
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I think that it's likely there's some user issues. As in, "it doesn't lock on in the 3rd basement of my concrete and lead bunker, therefore it sucks".
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Agree. And most people don't understand that the first seek time can take longer. So until the device learns your area it'll take longer to lock the first time in a certain area. I travel all over the world, and everywhere I go that I haven't been before a phone takes a bit longer to lock.
I think people forget about the days of the original GPS units that would take 5-7 minutes to lock on first use in a locale. Now if it takes 30 seconds they scream bloody murder.
EDIT: Why is it whenever there are polls like this people who click a negative, like something doesn't work or doesn't always work they almost never elaborate in comments? If I found this thread and had GPS issues, I'd vote, then elaborate on the problem to see if someone can help. My guess is you're spot on with user error.
My GPS was mediocre from day one. Today, did a factory reset, used tibu to restore all apps except maps, fresh install of maps from market. Had a lock in seconds. Will see what happens in the next week or two.
im not gonna say there arent bad units. and the settings could certainly be better, but i see these threads in every forum about every phone, and my friends complain about there phones. all i can say is that it get blown out of proportion.
i had a captivate and despite limited accuracy and agps that would hinder tracking it never steered me wrong after a few slight tweaks. every time i tried to follow someone elses mods it got worse. da_g's fix fixed the glgps deamon crashing while i was driving, though it only crashed if i used agps settings in the first place, so just changing the supl server and using the most recent modem.bin and setting secgps.conf to standalone to match lbs test mode was all it took to get a great tracking gps even on google maps.and it locked pretty good under cover.
the infuse is way more accurate getting <10meter locks quickly and showing the accuracy to the .01th of a meter rather than using multiples of 5 meters like the sgs. i can typically get 6 meter locks on the infuse sometimes less, with consistant altitude and 11 sats visable. if it gives you trouble i would blame google maps, it is clearly not a hardware issue. changing the lbs settings or secgps.conf may make it better but it is better to have a gps program that doesnt use data so before you complain replace maps with an application that has it's maps stored internally.
10 days in... Not one GPS issue. I just returned home from a 4 day business trip to Washington DC. During that trip, I used the Infuse often and enjoyed comparing it to the Garmin that came with the vehicle. The Infuse won hands down. The one huge triumph was the Google Navigation's ability to properly recognize traffic delays and re-route. I used it and it actually worked like a charm! The Garmin traffic portion didn't work at all. It basically didn't see the traffic that the Google Nav picked right up.
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im not gonna say there arent bad units. and the settings could certainly be better, but i see these threads in every forum about every phone, and my friends complain about there phones. all i can say is that it get blown out of proportion.
i had a captivate and despite limited accuracy and agps that would hinder tracking it never steered me wrong after a few slight tweaks. every time i tried to follow someone elses mods it got worse. da_g's fix fixed the glgps deamon crashing while i was driving, though it only crashed if i used agps settings in the first place, so just changing the supl server and using the most recent modem.bin and setting secgps.conf to standalone to match lbs test mode was all it took to get a great tracking gps even on google maps.and it locked pretty good under cover.
the infuse is way more accurate getting <10meter locks quickly and showing the accuracy to the .01th of a meter rather than using multiples of 5 meters like the sgs. i can typically get 6 meter locks on the infuse sometimes less, with consistant altitude and 11 sats visable. if it gives you trouble i would blame google maps, it is clearly not a hardware issue. changing the lbs settings or secgps.conf may make it better but it is better to have a gps program that doesnt use data so before you complain replace maps with an application that has it's maps stored internally.
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Could you post a link of changing the settings to lock in north America only please.
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Working fine here, just hoping I'm not jinxing myself by saying so
I was using Google navigation yesterday on the Infuse while in Kissimmee and it moved a long with the car 95% of the time, it was great! Took me exactly where I needed to go without an issue. The Captivate couldn't do this at all!!
My GPS still doesn't work, indoors, outdoors, in my car etc. Guess ill need a replacement. Thanks for the input people. Thats what these forums are for. To either uncover or put to rest potential issues, amongst many other uses.. Sorry if i "offended" any internet elitists.. Again i appreciate the useful input though.
I use cardio trainer to log distance when running etc. I used it daily when I got the phone in March and it worked great. Then in May it started not locking to my location. Now it doesn’t work at all. I have updated my phone and it still does not work.
I live in an area with a lot of tall trees. It seems like it stopped working when the leaves came out. Is the GPS on this phone that bad that it can’t lock through leaves? My old droid never had that problem and I used the very same program on it all last year.
Anything I can do to make the GPS work better?
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I use cardio trainer to log distance when running etc. I used it daily when I got the phone in March and it worked great. Then in May it started not locking to my location. Now it doesn’t work at all. I have updated my phone and it still does not work.
I live in an area with a lot of tall trees. It seems like it stopped working when the leaves came out. Is the GPS on this phone that bad that it can’t lock through leaves? My old droid never had that problem and I used the very same program on it all last year.
Anything I can do to make the GPS work better?
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There are a number of threads on XDA and other forums about this issue--a Google search for "htc thunderbolt gps issues" will yield a long list of discussions. I've had excellent results, irrespective of which radio / ROM I'm using with the GPS Status/Tools app available from the Market.
Yup tried that and it did not help at all. Just ran 2 miles and Cardio Trainer said I went .4 miles. This phone sucks... If there is nothing that will fix this I'm going back to Verizon and make them give me a new phone.
It was probably just using cell towers, not true GPS.
Get the app "GPS Status" from the market.
Go to 'menu/tools'. Then manage a-GPS. Do a reset, then do a download.
Now go outdoors for a LONG while with GPS status running. It should start receiving and cataloging satellites. If you aren't seeing over 6 satellites and better then 8 meters accuracy, it is broken. Get it replaced by VZW.
If it is broken would a new TB fix it or should i just get a new Droid? I have been less than impressed with all the issues of the TB so far. Also how it still doesn’t have Netflix when so many other phones do.
Ok I did that... It found as many as 8 sats and had an error or 3m. So I will try cardio trainer again and see if it now works.
Hello, I just dug myself out of two Samsung infuse devices, Just miserable GPS performance
How's the GPS on these i727s?
Thanks for your time.
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Mine always locks within seconds if I'm in the car. If I'm inside it takes a bit longer but still fast enough.
I had a Captivate and an Infuse... GPS on both was useless. Got my SR in November and GPS is rock solid. I consistently view 20-23 satellites... and lock anywhere from 9-13 sats.... within a few seconds... and accuracy within 9 ft. MyTracks is unbelievably accurate as well on the SKYROCKET.
GPS locks instantly. Probably in a second or less it is already scrolling to my current location.
I do have an issue where it will say "GPS signal lost". I understand when that happens when I'm under a bridge for a while, but I think it is due to overheating. It usually has the signal again within a few seconds.
I would say other than the annoying random GPS signal lost issue, and battery life, skyrocket works better because it locks on instantly, reroutes faster, than my Garmin Nuvi 360 which I've used for the last 6 years and it has taken me everywhere I wanted to go.
In other words, it is a 100% capable first-class navigation device, but make sure you have a charger.
don't foget you can also flash the GPS universal fix also it works great it here on xda
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I have to say WOW. Just got the Skyrocket and can get GPS fix in my basement. No other phone has been able to do this.
Got a fix in six seconds.
My last phone was a Captivate with crappy gps hardware. The only way I could fix the GPS on it was to buy the Skyrocket. Works awesome on this phone.
Drains the battery pretty hard if you're using Navigation on a long drive, but if you have a car charger (or USB port in your car) you can keep it plugged in and everything's fine (battery will actually charge while using it too, so on a long drive you can use gps with car charger and finish the drive with 100% battery).
skrambled,
It was really hard for me to buy the Skyrocket after the wife's Captivate was such a disaster. I read and re-read the reviews and threads here and finally decided to get one. I got a refurb for $20 direct from AT&T and so far I am loving it.
Tried the GPS in the car today and fix time was 2-4 seconds with four trials. I would turn GPS off and leave it off for a while then turn it on and open the GPS status app to check the time to a fix. What ever fixes Samsung implemented for the GPS issue they certainly work.
I wanna comment on one thing. I'm using Google Navigation, which I believe it is up to par with the best of them, if you update text-to-speech. I'm using IVONNA (Kendra) text to speech with Google Navigation.