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[Q] Flashing ROMS and Radios, safety?

Hello,
I am planning on giving in for a few ROMs, but read they need to have a new radio flashed as well. How risky is this? Or, whats the WORST that could go wrong? I know that when flashing a ROM, the worst is that it wont flash right and cause a semi-brick that is easily fixed by flashing a backup ROM.
But, what about if you flash a radio and THAT gets FUBARed? Is it just as easily fixed as restoring with your latest backup?
I am not serious enough to try flashing ROMs if there is the potential for a 100% brick. I am a noob, but can follow directions well. (Or as well as they are written).
Thanks,
Matt

Actually flashing a radio is the most risky thing. If you screw up, you can brick it. However, I flashed it without problems and it's very easy. Just make sure you didn't download a corrupted file
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

idavid_ said:
Actually flashing a radio is the most risky thing. If you screw up, you can brick it. However, I flashed it without problems and it's very easy. Just make sure you didn't download a corrupted file
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Yikes! So there is the chance for a 100% brick then? Is there a way out of this? Its too bad that there isnt a way around having to do this...
What are some steps to take to get the absolute best chance at this? Also, does this mean that if I wanted to return to my stock ROM, I would have to find my stock radio and re-flash all that too?
Seems this may not be worth it, for me just yet...I was just curious to see how the dual core support ROMs are compared to stock.
Matt

mrg02d said:
Yikes! So there is the chance for a 100% brick then? Is there a way out of this? Its too bad that there isnt a way around having to do this...
What are some steps to take to get the absolute best chance at this? Also, does this mean that if I wanted to return to my stock ROM, I would have to find my stock radio and re-flash all that too?
Seems this may not be worth it, for me just yet...I was just curious to see how the dual core support ROMs are compared to stock.
Matt
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If you want to revert to stock you just have to run the official RUU found here.
Download the one that matches your region
Regarding whether its worth it or not, the risk of bricking your phone is very small, and if you check the md5 sum its virtually nonexistant

frederikh said:
If you want to revert to stock you just have to run the official RUU found here.
Download the one that matches your region
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Hello,
I know how to do that, as well as use recovery to use my backup, but my question is whether or not a failed radio flash can 100% kill your phone?
For instance, lets say I am flashing whatever radio I was advised to use for a ROM and then I get some error. Would I be screwed, or could I just flash my backup or use the RUU to be back in business?
Matt

mrg02d said:
Yikes! So there is the chance for a 100% brick then? Is there a way out of this? Its too bad that there isnt a way around having to do this...
What are some steps to take to get the absolute best chance at this? Also, does this mean that if I wanted to return to my stock ROM, I would have to find my stock radio and re-flash all that too?
Seems this may not be worth it, for me just yet...I was just curious to see how the dual core support ROMs are compared to stock.
Matt
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1. ROMs are very easy to flash. As said, the Radio is much riskier to do than the ROM itself (although the comments about changing Radio having a low chance of bricking your phone if the process is done right are probably true).
2. Dual core support is not yet properly done. From all the feedback I've seen, it looks like a lot of devs have already pulled dual core support when people were saying it hardly increased performance while adding other issues. That said, it's still worth it to try custom ROMs because they offer speed improvements even without dual core support yet.
3. You can try custom ROMs without changing radios. I know I did (I'm currently on CoreDroid 2.3 and I didn't touch the radio), and my stock radio has given me the same data speeds and battery life I saw stock. There are a number of people who don't ever change the radio when they try different ROMs and they too have no problems. Ultimately, if you really don't want to change radios, just try out different ROMs until you find one that works well with the stock radio (and if you're like me it will only take your 1st shot to find one that does). I recommend going this route (flashing ROMs but not changing the stock radio) until you've done a lot of reading/searching about changing radios and gathered the courage to do it.

Help! Wrong radio!!

Alright, so I've had an htc sensation running on leedroid 3.10 for quite some time now. Recently it started to restart randomly, so I decided to upgrade my rom. So then I attempted to install insertcoin ICS, but I needed a new radio. So I chose one figuring it would work and now my device doesn't connect to internet or even my data. Whenever I try to install a different radio now to attampt fixing it, it says I have the wrong CID! I NEED my phone to work soon because i have a lot of important things to do that involve it!! Thanks for all help and please respond soon! FYI it says my radio is 10.11.9007.06_M2. Should I maybe reflash the hboot?
EDIT: And in case you're wondering, I've been searching for the solution for hours. I've never been more afraid of anything not working than this phone, and I can't afford a new phone, so please help!

First, you need to be superCid in order to install any radio without issue, Have a look in this post, Step 4
After that, you need to install corresponding firmware before flashing ICS rom. read this Thread

CapnPuff said:
Alright, so I've had an htc sensation running on leedroid 3.10 for quite some time now. Recently it started to restart randomly, so I decided to upgrade my rom. So then I attempted to install insertcoin ICS, but I needed a new radio. So I chose one figuring it would work and now my device doesn't connect to internet or even my data. Whenever I try to install a different radio now to attampt fixing it, it says I have the wrong CID! I NEED my phone to work soon because i have a lot of important things to do that involve it!! Thanks for all help and please respond soon! FYI it says my radio is 10.11.9007.06_M2. Should I maybe reflash the hboot?
EDIT: And in case you're wondering, I've been searching for the solution for hours. I've never been more afraid of anything not working than this phone, and I can't afford a new phone, so please help!
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Hi,
10.11.9007.06_M2 is a few steps backwards/downwards on the radio ladder.
You can see the order HERE
What is your actual plan?
Do you want ICS?
If you want ICS ,you either need Super CID,or look at THIS POST
Right now there are 2 ICS bases:
3.12.....Sense 3.5
3.24.....Sense 3.6
When you install the appropriate firmware for either ROM,it will have the new radio inside the PG58IMG.zip
A good thread to follow is HERE
If you are not confident about upgrading to ICS,you could just flash the radio:
10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2
and carry on with GingerBread.

Inspire issues, possible soft brick, long startup, bad hboot?

So my Inspire has been buggy ever since I tried to ENG S-Off it with Easy S-Off.
When I go to turn it on, it stays off for 8-10 minutes, then FINALLY turns on and hangs at the white HTC screen for a minute or two and constantly vibrates, then hangs there some more, then EVENTUALLY turns on and works fine. It does this every time.
Do I have a bad HBoot? Do I need a new P****.zip file or whatever it is?
Anyone know what I can do to fix this? I tried flashing back to stock with the Ace Hack Kit, but that involves the phone rebooting and it took so long to reboot that the hack kit timed out and failed.

First off your first issue was messing with Eng s-off. You should seriously research this topic due to the fact that messing with this setting is VERY DANGEROUS to the phone if you dont know what your doing, damage can be permanent and is a sure way to brick your phone. Its more for the advanced user and not a novice. All you needed is rooted s-off to do whatever you want to phone and if your trying to flash a radio there are flashable radios without Eng s-off. Head over to the Ace Hack Kit IRC chat and you might find the help you need there.

SilentAssailant said:
So my Inspire has been buggy ever since I tried to ENG S-Off it with Easy S-Off.
When I go to turn it on, it stays off for 8-10 minutes, then FINALLY turns on and hangs at the white HTC screen for a minute or two and constantly vibrates, then hangs there some more, then EVENTUALLY turns on and works fine. It does this every time.
Do I have a bad HBoot? Do I need a new P****.zip file or whatever it is?
Anyone know what I can do to fix this? I tried flashing back to stock with the Ace Hack Kit, but that involves the phone rebooting and it took so long to reboot that the hack kit timed out and failed.
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Exactly as Reinaldo told u. You have messed your bootloader up...you need to fix it. Go to where he directed you. ENG S-OFF is not necessary and very dangerous. Using PD98IMG files is just fine and works great.

Well the only reason I tried the Eng S-Off is because I was told to do so by the maker of Android Revolution in order to be able to flash a certain custom radio he suggest works best with my version 7.0.2
SO I just go into the IRC and explain my issue and they'll hopefully try and help me out?
EDIT: I searched everywhere and can't seem t find the Ace Hack Kit IRC chat you speak of.

SilentAssailant said:
Well the only reason I tried the Eng S-Off is because I was told to do so by the maker of Android Revolution in order to be able to flash a certain custom radio he suggest works best with my version 7.0.2
SO I just go into the IRC and explain my issue and they'll hopefully try and help me out?
EDIT: I searched everywhere and can't seem t find the Ace Hack Kit IRC chat you speak of.
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http://webchat.freenode.net/#aahkSupport

SilentAssailant said:
Well the only reason I tried the Eng S-Off is because I was told to do so by the maker of Android Revolution in order to be able to flash a certain custom radio he suggest works best with my version 7.0.2
SO I just go into the IRC and explain my issue and they'll hopefully try and help me out?
EDIT: I searched everywhere and can't seem t find the Ace Hack Kit IRC chat you speak of.
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Yes
I NEVER flash radios no matter what rom I use or what radio it recommends. If I recall radios are dependant on your area. I tried flashing recommended radio from a rom and got completely ****TY service so I went back to my stock. Now I flash no radio no matter what the rom recomends.

Reinaldo33897 said:
Yes
I NEVER flash radios no matter what rom I use or what radio it recommends. If I recall radios are dependant on your area. I tried flashing recommended radio from a rom and got completely ****TY service so I went back to my stock. Now I flash no radio no matter what the rom recomends.
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Well the reason I wanted to try the recommended radio is because the one I have (had) gave me poor reception. But maybe there's nothing I can do about that.
Stats are:
Android Version 2.3.5
HTC Sense Version 3.5
Android Revolution HD 7.0.3
Kernel 2.6.35.14-RCMIX3D-ACS-ACE-NCR-V11.1-ge213fe7-dirty
Baseband Version 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M

SilentAssailant said:
Well the reason I wanted to try the recommended radio is because the one I have (had) gave me poor reception. But maybe there's nothing I can do about that.
Stats are:
Android Version 2.3.5
HTC Sense Version 3.5
Android Revolution HD 7.0.3
Kernel 2.6.35.14-RCMIX3D-ACS-ACE-NCR-V11.1-ge213fe7-dirty
Baseband Version 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M
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Yes, there´s something you can do. I have actually flashed radios more than once...but this is the way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324

I joined #ace
Is that the correct channel? There were quite a few people in the chat but nobody was active and nobody would reply.

SilentAssailant said:
I joined #ace
Is that the correct channel? There were quite a few people in the chat but nobody was active and nobody would reply.
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the channel is #aahkSupport
thatis the correct. I will be back there in a couple of hours

SilentAssailant said:
Well the only reason I tried the Eng S-Off is because I was told to do so by the maker of Android Revolution in order to be able to flash a certain custom radio he suggest works best with my version 7.0.2
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Actually, you were not told to ENG S-Off your phone by mike1986 (ARHD dev). All he says is that you need ENG S-Off to flash the radio he has in his thread. 99% don't flash a radio in that way, as the others in this thread have said. Make sure you thoroughly research everthing you plan to do to your phone before you attempt it.
Here's what you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19920345&postcount=5965

Radio download links?

Hey all, I'm sorry if this seems an odd question, but I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around the process of how the One S gets different features flashed to the device.
I don't have my One S yet (Hopefully it'll arrive later today, 7/27) but I wanted to be prepared when it arrives.
It seems the links are broken in this post and it's stating that this thread is outdated.
If I'm going to flash a new ROM on the device, are the radios generally included in that ROM already? I see that you often times need to manually flash BOOT.IMG on a per-ROM basis due to not having s-off? I'm comfortable with all of that, I just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything, and unfortunately it seems as though there is little information in some of the threads on XDA that clearly answer my question.
Call it a personality defect, I just like to 100% understand something in every possible way before being able to attempt it. Unfortunately when I don't have the device in front of me, it prevents me from being able to do that, but that's what forums are for, right?
Cheers all, I appreciate anyone taking the time to answer my question.

TooSlo said:
Hey all, I'm sorry if this seems an odd question, but I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around the process of how the One S gets different features flashed to the device.
I don't have my One S yet (Hopefully it'll arrive later today, 7/27) but I wanted to be prepared when it arrives.
It seems the links are broken in this post and it's stating that this thread is outdated.
If I'm going to flash a new ROM on the device, are the radios generally included in that ROM already? I see that you often times need to manually flash BOOT.IMG on a per-ROM basis due to not having s-off? I'm comfortable with all of that, I just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything, and unfortunately it seems as though there is little information in some of the threads on XDA that clearly answer my question.
Call it a personality defect, I just like to 100% understand something in every possible way before being able to attempt it. Unfortunately when I don't have the device in front of me, it prevents me from being able to do that, but that's what forums are for, right?
Cheers all, I appreciate anyone taking the time to answer my question.
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The latest radio with android 4.0.4 rom is said to be much better in terms of performace of wifi and cellular data signal then all previous versions, unfortunately buying a phone at this stage means that you probably will have a later hboot version 1.13 and this hboot doesnt allow flashing radio from recovery like the previous versions. You can find out more info about the radio in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781033
To answer your other question the radio has to be flashed separately from the ROM. Hopefully your phone comes with a lower hboot so flashing wont be a problem, make sure you dont accept the ota update out of the box like i did so u dont accidently get an upgraded hboot. Makes life more diificult ;p.

Its a used phone and is already running CM9, so I'm hoping its the older boot. I already made sure it was the S4, but I just realized that the unlocked phones don't support TMOUS bands, so I'm a bit screwed at the moment.
I don't know what the next step is for me, so I may be forced to move to Straight Talk until I can get another 100% compatible TMOUS phone. I saw it has 2100 HSPA radio frequencies so I had assumed it would work on TMOUS. Needless to say I feel pretty stupid now.
Thanks again for the links, they were exactly what I was looking for!
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2

just boot into bootloader it will tell you hboot. i think .06 is stock one
there are radio links here .10 latest for us--if you want 4.0.4 one--research needed
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
flash thru twrp or if cwr you must boot into recovery thru fastboot then flash

Radio from 4.04 update and hboot 1.13
rugmankc said:
just boot into bootloader it will tell you hboot. i think .06 is stock one
there are radio links here .10 latest for us--if you want 4.0.4 one--research needed
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
flash thru twrp or if cwr you must boot into recovery thru fastboot then flash
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Sorry for putting this question another time, but the answers concerning this are treated in a lot of different threads, just to confirm:
I am on Leedroid 2.1, Radio Version 0.1631501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L; i have Hboot 1.13,
I there a possibility for me to flash this new radio radio from update 4.04??
Regards, Dwino

Dwino said:
Sorry for putting this question another time, but the answers concerning this are treated in a lot of different threads, just to confirm:
I am on Leedroid 2.1, Radio Version 0.1631501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L; i have Hboot 1.13,
I there a possibility for me to flash this new radio radio from update 4.04??
Regards, Dwino
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If you want to get this new radio, the only way to do it at this moment is to change to SuperCID and follow the steps from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781033

Help! Learning but still in the dark

I have my Sensation $g from T-MOB for 2 years now and it time to upgrade or something. I have tried several different ROMs from different developers and was ok but now I'm questioning my performance. Signal "seems" to be getting worse but since I didn't log can't be sure. I remember it being better before the last 2 ROM changes but the company has changed windows and put a new roof on the building. But my watering holes also seem to be giving me difficulty getting a signal. So I tried to return to stock thinking it may be the radio included in these roms but it seems almost impossible or at least very dangerous to try compared to going forward. I am running an elegancia rom now and going to try another ARHD only b/c I have the 3.33.401.601 firmware. I just learned this is world wide english where as the T-MOB US is only at 3.32.531.x so I cant go back to that. Does anyone think this new ROM will help my signal/connectivity issue?

are you on S-ON or S-OFF?

I'm still S-OFF after installing ARHD 3.33.401.53. but I think I'm no longer rooted.

dssturk said:
I'm still S-OFF after installing ARHD 3.33.401.53. but I think I'm no longer rooted.
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every custom rom comes pre-rooted so probably you are
use getril app from playstore
it will show you the best combination of radio/ril
otherwise take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867

Actually the ROM I'm installed was a semi stock rom,
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEi6ycHiWUAVLkQ-RW0ZoIVvJyiNA
It did remove Root and SuperCid so I returned to previous Rom and looked for another and found what I was looking for "maybe". I'm testing rom's befor I make a desission on whether or not to renew my TMOBUS account or switch.
Thanks so much for the feed back.