Simple question: I have upgraded my phone to 2.3.4 and im still on stock rom with no changes. my question is, if i s-off my phone and root it, would i still be able to receive updates with no problem or do i need to s-off it in order to get the updates?
would it be the same with both revolutionary and official HTC unlock tools?
thanks a lot!
you would need to flash the update rom after you root it. Also the htc updates that you find in the settings app won't work. and i recommend using the revolutionary method because htc's way probably takes a number down so if you send it back you'll be identified by that number causing you to pay the full price for the phone again.
darryll4sh0 said:
you would need to flash the update rom after you root it. Also the htc updates that you find in the settings app won't work. and i recommend using the revolutionary method because htc's way probably takes a number down so if you send it back you'll be identified by that number causing you to pay the full price for the phone again.
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thanks but what update rom? i already have 2.3.4 on my device.
also, in the user agreement of the HTC Unlock tool, it actually says that u can still receive FOTA updates after u unlock ur device....
Via the official update you can, but if you've used Revolutionary it's normally advised not to accept updates
After rooting my device using revolutionary, my hboot is not 1.17.111 but it wa 1.18.000 before....How do i update my hboot to 1.18.000 again?!
You can't, but you don't need to - you don't gain anything from being on it
EDIT: Well, that's a lie. You can extract it from the 1.45.401.2 RUU and flash it via adb but you don't NEED to do it
EddyOS said:
You can't, but you don't need to - you don't gain anything from being on it
EDIT: Well, that's a lie. You can extract it from the 1.45.401.2 RUU and flash it via adb but you don't NEED to do it
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what are the changelogs from 1.17 to 1.18?...
Are updates here similar to that of iOS? IE revolutionary would work on 2.3.3 but if you update to 2.3.4 you'd have to wait for a *new* S-Off, much like how you had to wait for new jailbreaks if you updated firmware for iOS?
NinetoFive said:
Are updates here similar to that of iOS? IE revolutionary would work on 2.3.3 but if you update to 2.3.4 you'd have to wait for a *new* S-Off, much like how you had to wait for new jailbreaks if you updated firmware for iOS?
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no i just did the s-off on my 2.3.4 device and it worked fine.
Jailbreak to Rooting
NinetoFive said:
Are updates here similar to that of iOS? IE revolutionary would work on 2.3.3 but if you update to 2.3.4 you'd have to wait for a *new* S-Off, much like how you had to wait for new jailbreaks if you updated firmware for iOS?
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I just switched from an iphone also but here's how android works...
Once you root your device, it can't be unrooted unless you manually do it. (imagine your iphone staying jailbroken after itunes updating it)
When rooted the only way to update is by flashing a new rom manually. The OTA (over the air) updates might brick your phone
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Hi All.
Quick question, I have rooted my sensation and s-off'ed, sweet.
Here is me question, what happens if our friends at HTC update the part that made the s-off possible? Will we get the updates or will only the users who did not tinker with the firmware get them?
Cheers folks.
HTC has stated that there new HTC-DEV site will be where you will be able to S-off your device, its not gonna come in an OTA push, IMO revolutionary has got us S-off, so who care what HTC has coming for S-off....its a little late, besides if you S-off with HTC they want to document who is S-offing their devices.......eff em and just enjoy your no strings attached S-off.
Number 1...It is never a good idea to take an OTA on your phone if you have it rooted.
Number 2...OTA's may contain patches to exploits that were used to obtain s-off.
Number 3...OTA's may or may not s-on your phone depending on how the devs obtained s-off in the first place.
Moral of the story is if you want to maintain root never OTA
i own a sensation device
if i use this revolutionary tool to s-off, recovery and root, is it possible to s-on later? (e.g. to give my phone to htc service to be in warranty)
If i just use the ruuxxxxxx.exe for my device to put the official rom , the phone will be s-on again? or is there any other way?
and wht about official OTA updates? how is going to be achieved?
There is a way to to gain s-on again but it's risky atm. Look for the guide in the stickies in the development forum.
You will not get an OTA on a rooted custom ROM.. end of story!!
So enjoy
emm_stra said:
i own a sensation device
if i use this revolutionary tool to s-off, recovery and root, is it possible to s-on later? (e.g. to give my phone to htc service to be in warranty)
If i just use the ruuxxxxxx.exe for my device to put the official rom , the phone will be s-on again? or is there any other way?
and wht about official OTA updates? how is going to be achieved?
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Yes it is possible to make you device s-on again just be sure to follow everything to the letter and don't screw up. Also why would you want to. If anything permanently root it and stick with that.
HTC Sensation Stock Perm_Rooted 4.3.3
HTC Sensation Stock Perm_Rooted 4.3.3
Bobguy21 said:
Yes it is possible to make you device s-on again just be sure to follow everything to the letter and don't screw up. Also why would you want to. If anything permanently root it and stick with that.
HTC Sensation Stock Perm_Rooted 4.3.3
HTC Sensation Stock Perm_Rooted 4.3.3
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thank you
what about the other questions???
Sorry it took so long you cannot update when rooted. Because of clockworkmod recovery. But just install a stock bases ROM the has the update like I did. hope this helps.
HTC Sensation LeeDroid 2.3.4 Perm_Rooted
Hi!!
I just got a Desire S, i' am new to rooting... so i need to know whether i can go back to the stock ROM (2.3.3 with sense 2.1) after i root the device.
This is the only dilemma holding me back from rooting my desire s.
Thank you for your Time! : )
To root your phone you have to S-OFF (turning off security that prevents you to flash system components) first.
You can do this with Revolutionary
This procedure will change your bootloader to a modified one.
To keep the possibility to go back S-ON and Stock you should flash this hboot and when the time comes to restore the system with a RUU with your current version (that can be checked in Settings - About phone - Software information)
A lot of useful info here, all the necessary files and guides here
Thanks a lot for the info!!
But one problem though, my Baseband Version is: 20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M and Software number is: 1.47.111.3 .
I searched thoroughly in the link (RUU) u posted above, but i didn't find the matching RUU.
rusor123 said:
Thanks a lot for the info!!
But one problem though, my Baseband Version is: 20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M and Software number is: 1.47.111.3 .
I searched thoroughly in the link (RUU) u posted above, but i didn't find the matching RUU.
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Let me guess - when you power on your device you have the T-Mobile logo
Your current software version is higher then the T-Mobile RUU provided here (RUU_Saga_TMO_DE_1.30.111.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_3 8.03.02.11_M_release), so to restore Stock you will have to downgrade and then update via the Software actualization option in your settings (if such OTA is available) to return it to the current state. This is more tricky process, that can be done flawlessly if your device is healthy. But if you get in trouble and some system components are not responding (brick, bootloop) there is a great change that you will be not able to S-ON again. Happened to a lot of branded devices, reported here.
So my advice is to keep using it that way - it is still a great phone even with Stock software. You can S-OFF and root it of course at your own risk.
It is up to you
Dude you are right man... the T-mobile sign does come up, thanks for the heads up, appreciate it... don't want to brick ma phone... i' ll keep using it this way.
Another small question- do u know why the t- mobile logo is showing up during boot? i just got the phone brand new, and T-mobile isn't operating in my country. The box and the manuals in German, does it mean it's a refurbished phone?
And the phone also doesn't get software update, such as sense 3.0.
rusor123 said:
Another small question- do u know why the t- mobile logo is showing up during boot? i just got the phone brand new, and T-mobile isn't operating in my country. The box and the manuals in German, does it mean it's a refurbished phone?
And the phone also doesn't get software update, such as sense 3.0.
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The logo means that your phone is branded for T-Mobile. So better ask the operator/shop that you got it for more details. For me is quite strange since this mobile carrier is not operating in your country branded phones to be sold there
As for the Sense 3.0 update it depends on the operators. Probably T-Mobile will release one but when - do not know.
Anyway if there is a chance to replace your device for an unbranded one this will be the best thing to do.
amidabuddha said:
To root your phone you have to S-OFF (turning off security that prevents you to flash system components) first.
You can do this with Revolutionary
This procedure will change your bootloader to a modified one.
To keep the possibility to go back S-ON and Stock you should flash this hboot and when the time comes to restore the system with a RUU with your current version (that can be checked in Settings - About phone - Software information)
A lot of useful info here, all the necessary files and guides here
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thnx!!!!!!!!!!!
amidabuddha said:
The logo means that your phone is branded for T-Mobile. So better ask the operator/shop that you got it for more details. For me is quite strange since this mobile carrier is not operating in your country branded phones to be sold there
As for the Sense 3.0 update it depends on the operators. Probably T-Mobile will release one but when - do not know.
Anyway if there is a chance to replace your device for an unbranded one this will be the best thing to do.
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Is it likely that i' ll be getting a OTA update from T-mobile, since the phone's from Germany and i live in an Asian Country?
rusor123 said:
Is it likely that i' ll be getting a OTA update from T-mobile, since the phone's from Germany and i live in an Asian Country?
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Yes you should receive the update, because the update check from your phone settings is made on a central server (both on WiFi and Mobile data, the phone connects to the same place in the Internet)
amidabuddha said:
To root your phone you have to S-OFF (turning off security that prevents you to flash system components) first.
You can do this with Revolutionary
This procedure will change your bootloader to a modified one.
To keep the possibility to go back S-ON and Stock you should flash this hboot and when the time comes to restore the system with a RUU with your current version (that can be checked in Settings - About phone - Software information)
A lot of useful info here, all the necessary files and guides here
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hey im kinda a noob so what u said means i can or not, i have a desire s and i cant wait for the sense 3.0 update so if i download a custom rom for now, and when the official update comes in my region can i go back to the stock android then update it normally??????
Ive been trying to find out why my phone (with the 2.21 RUU currently installed) wont receive OTA's
The bootloader is relocked and it has the stock recovery, so it should work
Ive been reading a lot of posts (more ore less about this) some are hinting that RUU's dont give OTA's
Does anyone have a definitive answer, does a RUU get OTA's or not?
Thanks
Lacuna666 said:
Ive been trying to find out why my phone (with the 2.21 RUU currently installed) wont receive OTA's
The bootloader is relocked and it has the stock recovery, so it should work
Ive been reading a lot of posts (more ore less about this) some are hinting that RUU's dont give OTA's
Does anyone have a definitive answer, does a RUU get OTA's or not?
Thanks
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Yes RUU are stock HTC roms. It's like a super factory reset. But you can only receive an OTA if the region your phone is in offers an OTA. More specifically if there is an OTA offered to CID that your phone has.
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Yes RUU are stock HTC roms. It's like a super factory reset. But you can only receive an OTA if the region your phone is in offers an OTA. More specifically if there is an OTA offered to CID that your phone has.
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OK, thanks, that was exactly the kind of info i needed !
Check the build number on the phone.
If there is a r2 behind it then you wont get the update since there are ni developed paths from a r2 to something else.
M9x3mos said:
Check the build number on the phone.
If there is a r2 behind it then you wont get the update since there are ni developed paths from a r2 to something else.
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Thanks fo the info, i allready now have a ruu 2.31 installe which DOES get ota's, but if i run into this problem again, i'll check that !
Or type
*#*#CHECKIN#*#* into the dialer. Then check for updates.
Sent from my locked, tampered ville
Dear all,
I am in the middle of the bridge and don't know where to go...could you please give some help deciding what to do?
I have a Branded Desire S (Vodafone) with v2.3.5 lastest OTA update, and I would like to flash and try the ICS stock WWE from HTCDEV.
The simlock has already been removed, but the thing is can i flash this ICS update? do i need any goldcard or anything of the kind? Will the phone work ok? Or do i have to wait (maybe forever...) for the vodafone update? I reallly would like to unbrand the phone (the vodafone logo and other vodefone apps are really annoying...).
I think if this WWE update will go ok, when i received and warning about any vodafone update (because the serial indicates that this phone is a vodafone one) i have to ignore it and only apply only any WWE updates from HTCDEV, rather than that, i thing phone will work ok... but still i am worried about some things like :
- bricking phone with ICS update;
- some things don't work ok with this update because is a branded phone (i chat with HTC support and they told me that some guy complained about WIFI does not work after the ICS update, ... could it be possible, even if the hardware is the same from branded and unbranded phones?;
- possibility to go back to a 2.3.5 rom if i dont like for whatever reason of the ICS of its behavior on this phone; the HTC guy told me that only on the HTC assistance was possible to make it ... dont we just have to run the correct version of the ROM (by the way i don't know which is mine, could you please tell me? Because i seached on the HTCDEV for the right software number (2.10.168.3) and the file to download is a ".gz" file not a .exe one;
Other thing, does this ICS include a PTG (Portugal) language.
I will be forever grateful for all the help / hints you can give me.:good:
Thx in advance.
D_Saint :angel:
From what I've heard, the ics update has bugs, that can only be solved with root access. Flashing the ruu should work fine though, but you won't be able to downgrade without unlocking the bootloader to get root access.
For these reasons I would recommend making your phone s-off (see guides in the "general section), and installing a fixed version of the ics update, or whatever custom rom you want. Then you can still go back to the original state, if you want to.
I read somewhere on my downgrade guide that they have successfully debranded their phone using my guide.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
Ditto to above two comments, read, read and then soff rather than htcdev
Sywepd form my DsereiS
Thx for tips, Will soff erase contacts or apps? For root with soff how to flash su??? Is there any repaired / bugless ics stock?
Okay, So I'm fairly new to all this. I've made several (unsuccessful) attempts at rooting my AT&T HOX, but I finally think I know where I went wrong.
In the past, I had tried unlocking the bootloader without having SuperCID access. (So yes, I currently have s-on..) Mainly due to the fact that I didn't know I needed sim access to root.
Because of these past issues, I have done the ATT OTA update.. From what I have read in other posts, correct me if I'm wrong, there is currently no way to gain SuperCID with the 5.18 update..
Other than waiting, is there any way I could go about rooting my phone? Is it possible to reset to factory settings, and go back to Original software?
Please help. Would eventually love to get rid of all the ATT and HTC crap on my phone.. (can't stand sense 5..)
Android version - 4.2.2
HTC Sense version - 5.0
Software number 5.18.502.1
Evita PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.18.0000
Radio - 1.35a.32.45.27
OpenDSP-v33.1.0.45.1128
eMMC-boot
Because you've taken the latest at&t update there is no way at all to get SuperCID so you can unlock your bootloader. You'll have to wait and see whether a dev deems it worth his time to find a crack, but I wouldn't hold your breathe if I was you. Probably should have done your research before taking the update.
Sent from my Evita
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Okay, So I'm fairly new to all this. I've made several (unsuccessful) attempts at rooting my AT&T HOX, but I finally think I know where I went wrong.
In the past, I had tried unlocking the bootloader without having SuperCID access. (So yes, I currently have s-on..) Mainly due to the fact that I didn't know I needed sim access to root.
Because of these past issues, I have done the ATT OTA update.. From what I have read in other posts, correct me if I'm wrong, there is currently no way to gain SuperCID with the 5.18 update..
Other than waiting, is there any way I could go about rooting my phone? Is it possible to reset to factory settings, and go back to Original software?
Please help. Would eventually love to get rid of all the ATT and HTC crap on my phone.. (can't stand sense 5..)
Android version - 4.2.2
HTC Sense version - 5.0
Software number 5.18.502.1
Evita PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.18.0000
Radio - 1.35a.32.45.27
OpenDSP-v33.1.0.45.1128
eMMC-boot
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1. I'm not are of a root for this new firmware (as Timmaaa has stated).
2. I'm not sure why you chose to get the OTA update if you can't stand HTC and Sense. Any time you grab an update from A&T, you're risking not being able to root
3. I recommend you purchase a Google phone and root/mod it as much as you want. No more HTC, No More ATT, No more Sense.
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1. I'm not are of a root for this new firmware (as Timmaaa has stated).
2. I'm not sure why you chose to get the OTA update if you can't stand HTC and Sense. Any time you grab an update from A&T, you're risking not being able to root
3. I recommend you purchase a Google phone and root/mod it as much as you want. No more HTC, No More ATT, No more Sense.
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Hey Dan,
Thanks for the reply. I got the OTA because I like new. I didn't really think about it when I did it, so yea, it was a dumb mistake on my part.
I only got HTC, because it was my introduction to Android. I now have a rooted N7, and I love it. I would also love to get an N5, however, it's a good chunk of money I don't have currently, which is why I will be rooting my HOX once a root is available.
So, is anyone aware of a way to roll back an OTA update? Or is my best bet waiting for a 5.18 exploit?
Like I said, there is absolutely no way for you to get root unless someone releases an exploit.
Sent from my Evita
tsunami560 said:
So, is anyone aware of a way to roll back an OTA update? Or is my best bet waiting for a 5.18 exploit?
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If such a thing were possible, than a new exploit would not be necessary, and we would have told you about it already.
You can't "rollback" or revert to previous Android versions unless already rooted, s-off, etc.