Freeing up system - EVO 4G Android Development

Question about deleting from system...can I delete widgets I don't use without messing up the ones I use? They aren't dependant on each other are they?
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Sathanvs said:
Question about deleting from system...can I delete widgets I don't use without messing up the ones I use? They aren't dependant on each other are they?
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Welcome to the forums. You should be fine removing widgets without them borking others. None of them should be dependent on eachother. When I'm on sense, I delete half of them with no problems.
However, if you have a question post it over here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=652 from now on, as that is the QnA forum.

Is there really a reason to do this (free up space on the system partition) unless you are making space to install another app in system? I guess what I want to know, is, do I risk problems with stability, etc if the system partition is nearly or completely full? I would think not, since the this partition is normally read only when the phone is being used.

Thanks. Sorry for posting here.
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Using Titanium to remove operator bloat?

Is it safe to remove the demo games and other rubbish using titanium backup? I get a warning about might having to reinstall the ROM, what's the chances of this happening?
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Its perfectly fine, but back up allthe apps you delete and maybe even do a backup from CWM just incase. Be warned though removing something that requires another can cause sh*t to go wrong, for instance Samsung bloatware is safe, Google maps, places, yellow pages, all that jazz is safe... others that seem to be system oriented, other than the blatantly obvious PHONE AND MESSAGING OR FILE EXPLORE shouldn't be removed, the rest should be safe, nothing that'll destroy your phone, and if it does, that's why you made a backup
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slugger09 said:
Is it safe to remove the demo games and other rubbish using titanium backup? I get a warning about might having to reinstall the ROM, what's the chances of this happening?
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i deleted an app on 2.1 cappy and got an endless supply of phone and messaging FCs
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Memory low due to low app space?

Guys please let me know honestly if its a pain due to small app space on vibrant 4g...
I'm about to trade my vibrant and pay and pay additional $100 on top of that for a vibrant 4g.... is that a good deal or not forth it?
Because on my vibrant 3g I never get low memory because I have dedicated 2gb of app space...
Thanx
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If your rooted and have deleted all the bloatware and done the fota fix you should have about 350mb internal memory for apps. Use link2sd or apps2sd to have movable apps installed on your SD card and you should never have any space issues.
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yeah that happens to me too. if you are rooted you can also clear up your cache via recovery as well as deleting all that bloatware with Titanium back if you dont wanna do it through terminal emulator, which the SGS4g has alot.....
So the only way to move apps to sd is to root?
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Did you try apps2sd or link2sd?
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I've rooted my device Samsung Galaxy S 4G from T-Mobile and I am using task killer, but still having issues with the memory.
Anyone have a solution to the lagging problem?
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Vibrant plus 100 is steep man... Think it over. Vibrants still go for about 200-250. Sell that then use the money plus the extra hundred you were about to spend and grab a Sensation or something. I see a lot of new Sensations for about 300-350 on CL.
Good luck.
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If you use custom rom or root and delete fota files you will get about 300MB left on your phone. Theres also the option to move some app to 16GB sd card (most will suport this feature, but some don't).
OK guys I tried all the app2sd apps in the market... all of them show 0 movable apps... so please help me out with this: is there a one click root apparently for this phone? And where can I download it... and which files are safe to remove and how do I remove them... I'm new to rooting and u would need to break it down like to an infant... I only plan on removing all the bloatware crap... this phone has way too much of it!
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arsalam3399 said:
Anyone have a solution to the lagging problem?
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Custom ROM and kernel with voodoo support.
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AlexSochi8 said:
OK guys I tried all the app2sd apps in the market... all of them show 0 movable apps... so please help me out with this: is there a one click root apparently for this phone? And where can I download it... and which files are safe to remove and how do I remove them... I'm new to rooting and u would need to break it down like to an infant... I only plan on removing all the bloatware crap... this phone has way too much of it!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
Everything you need
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Native android apps

Can I remove the browser, email and messaging apps? I currently have them frozen in TB with no negative outcome. I simply don't use them, ever.
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wgrant said:
Can I remove the browser, email and messaging apps? I currently have them frozen in TB with no negative outcome. I simply don't use them, ever.
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Short answer, yes.
Long answer, yes but it's probably not a good idea to do so.
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Why wouldn't it be good? Serious question not cocky.
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A lot of things rely on then to function. Freezing isn't the same; I freeze Wifi Calling with no issues but when I try to uninstall it I get constant force closes every second until I do a battery pull, and that's on a bit of propriety software! I sincerely doubt letting Messaging or the like exist is hurting you enough to warrant risking potently annoying problems
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I just hate having things installed I don't use, like rom manager and dev tools. Never use either.
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LordButtersI said:
A lot of things rely on then to function. Freezing isn't the same; I freeze Wifi Calling with no issues but when I try to uninstall it I get constant force closes every second until I do a battery pull, and that's on a bit of propriety software! I sincerely doubt letting Messaging or the like exist is hurting you enough to warrant risking potently annoying problems
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Those apps are tied to android system dunno why it wont give fc on freeze since its almost the same as uninstalling them. But ya if you did delete those you would get tons of fc on startup and be forced to do a battery pull and reflash rom or backup.
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LordButtersI said:
A lot of things rely on then to function. Freezing isn't the same; I freeze Wifi Calling with no issues but when I try to uninstall it I get constant force closes every second until I do a battery pull, and that's on a bit of propriety software! I sincerely doubt letting Messaging or the like exist is hurting you enough to warrant risking potently annoying problems
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Because you also need to delete the corresponding .so file in the lib folder.
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If you are on a stock rom and delete system apps you can never install any future OTA updates. The updates check all system files first and make sure they are unchanged. If you freeze apps you just defrost them before installing an OTA. If you deleted them then no chance of OTA update, period. If you are not on a stock rom then it doesn't matter. You might wind up with a continuous force close issue that requires reflashing the rom.
jboxer said:
If you are on a stock rom and delete system apps you can never install any future OTA updates. The updates check all system files first and make sure they are unchanged. If you freeze apps you just defrost them before installing an OTA. If you deleted them then no chance of OTA update, period. If you are not on a stock rom then it doesn't matter. You might wind up with a continuous force close issue that requires reflashing the rom.
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You don't have to unfreeze them just can't remove them.. You can get update with them froze..
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wgrant said:
Can I remove the browser, email and messaging apps? I currently have them frozen in TB with no negative outcome. I simply don't use them, ever.
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Just make a backup and give it a try!! I personally would just leave them froze.. Good luck
PS: if you do try let us know how it goes
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MisfitX said:
Just make a backup and give it a try!! I personally would just leave them froze.. Good luck
PS: if you do try let us know how it goes
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I just froze them instead. Maybe before I flash my next rom I'll give it a go.
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I got rid of stock browser and tmobile stuff off of my phone and didn't receive FC's.
The downside ro this is if you remove the browser or anything when you do a hard reset it won't be there so you have to rely on a back up and be careful what you unistall.
I learned that the hard way when i first started with android. I unistalled swype since i use SwiftKey but did a hard reset to clear everything out and well i couldn't log in to my google account at the beginning because there was no virtual keyboard to use.
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Tw love.

Ok. So I may be the only person here that likes twlauncher. The one thing I don't like about it is that the apps do not get sorted alphabetical ... I figured out that if u clear the app data on it, when it resets all apps will be arranged alphabetically.
Just throwing this out there.
Edit. It will reset ur home screens so it is pretty much a 1 time deal. But it isn't that hard to place any new apps where they belong
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Look up appzorter on the market. It should do the trick. I think you need root to use it, though.
Sweet. Now I think my thread is pointless now. Lol. Thanks for the info
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JihadSquad said:
Look up appzorter on the market. It should do the trick. I think you need root to use it, though.
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This is the best post I've read since having my charge lol. I've been giving tw launcher a go and was using list mode because I'm too lazy to organize my app drawer. This is a great app!
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titanium back up.

do you ever save system info. it seems helpful when not planning changing roms
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I never do no matter what
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cdshepherd said:
I never do no matter what
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Can you explain why not?
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Honestly guys I can't. Sorry . I suppose if you weren't switching roms it would be ok. Its just that in my one year history here at xda I have heard from alot of well seasoned users say not to do it. Also I have seen alot of trouble for people that have done it. So I just simply don't do it. Wish I could explain more
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backing up and restoring system data is fine if you dont switch roms or even switch to a different version of the same rom (sometimes its ok, sometimes not)
i have done it, but its typically not recommended.
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backing up and restoring system data is fine if you dont switch roms or even switch to a different version of the same rom (sometimes its ok, sometimes not)
i have done it, but its typically not recommended.
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Thx PG, I'm just trying to understand the reason for not doing it... like what problems would occur? Just trying to learn.
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cdshepherd said:
Honestly guys I can't. Sorry . I suppose if you weren't switching roms it would be ok. Its just that in my one year history here at xda I have heard from alot of well seasoned users say not to do it. Also I have seen alot of trouble for people that have done it. So I just simply don't do it. Wish I could explain more
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Thanks cd! Appreciate the honesty of your answer!! Much of android remains a mystery to me... to many years of Windows... damn Bill Gates
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Same here. I never backup data. WHY?? Good Question?? What I've seen on XDA, people who do have a lot of issues with force closes etc. I just use it to back up my Apps so I don't have to do them one by one.
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shaggyskunk said:
Thx PG, I'm just trying to understand the reason for not doing it... like what problems would occur? Just trying to learn.
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if you backup system data from one rom and restore to another, when you reboot you will get nothing but force closes. you will have to reflash your rom to fix it.
if you are flashing the same version of the rom and just want all your stuff the same, it shouldnt affect anything
hcyplr29 said:
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Same here. I never backup data. WHY?? Good Question?? What I've seen on XDA, people who do have a lot of issues with force closes etc. I just use it to back up my Apps so I don't have to do them one by one.
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USER data is perfectly safe to backup. i get sick of so many people spreading untruths around about TiBu (i have seen tons)....backing up and restoring USER DATA AND APPS is perfectly fine. I have been using Titanium Backup for over a year and a half and have had more mobile devices in that timeframe than most have ever had in their lives, and every one of them i was able to use Titanium Backup to restore apps+data from OTHER devices to each other. hell, i share the same TiBu folder between my gs2, incredible s, and my vivid right now. then i have a modified version of the same folder for my galaxy tab (removed all phone-related apps)
^^^^^ this
I've migrated app backups through 3 different android phones, no problems. As for system data, bad idea. Entering your email address is far easier than reflashing a rom because of fc's

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