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So on the 10th I bought my first Android phone. I picked up a Nexus S, because I like things pure and untouched as far as the OS goes, I didn't want to be required to use a custom rom in order to remove HTC Sense, Motoblur, TouchWiz or whatever.
I also like the fact that the update process is much quicker on Google Nexus phones then on the other branded phones. I have no issues with the base Android 2.3 and Im really getting use to it. But I am curious about some of the issues I have read about with the Nexus S and custom kernels. I am going to root my phone. I did find the how-to on that.
Now I am curious about the custom kernels. I do have linux experience on the back end with some of my workstations I use. But I was thinking about if I could go the route of doing these things without needing to completely reflash a custom kernel.
I would like to switch my phone completely to EXT4 and yes I even mean the 16GB internal for the speed boost and performance. I would like to install a better kernel that allows for the VooDoo Audio (I have noticed a few of the audio issues with my phone) and also the BrainFuckScheduler option as well. Could someone please help point me in the right direction for these or maybe with some how-tos.
As far as mounting my phone's internal SD for storage. I can use it on my linux box for EXT4 support if i need to copy files over. but I am using wireless sync for my music and movies so that shouldn't be a major issue.
You could flash netarchy's kernel in the dev section. It essentially has all that you're asking for: BFS, voodoo sound, and ext4 hack. It comes clocked at stock speed unless you choose to overclock it.
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So what would be the best recommended option, as far as battery and performance goes is the stock ROM great or would a custom ROM really fair me much better performance and battery power.
When I mean stock I mean the stock ROM with the custom kernal with extra additions like ext4.
by the way that ext4 will change all mount points over to ext4 correct? requiring a wipe of the phone and start from stratch
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So what would be the best recommended option, as far as battery and performance goes is the stock ROM great or would a custom ROM really fair me much better performance and battery power.
When I mean stock I mean the stock ROM with the custom kernal with extra additions like ext4.
by the way that ext4 will change all mount points over to ext4 correct? requiring a wipe of the phone and start from stratch
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I'd be interested in hearing everyones opinion as well.
So far, I've installed CM7 (now on RC1) and Netarchy's 1.2.3 CFS kernel. I just installed the kernel from Team Whiskey today and can't tell if it's either faster or better with battery. Would be interested in hearing what the community has to say about that. One difference is that the Team Whiskey kernel can OC up to 1.6 if your phone can handle it.
CM7 does seem to do better than the stock kernel, but I dont' think any of the custom launchers beat the stock launchers in terms of buttery smooth app drawer. I think it's because the stock one is hw accelerated but none of the other launchers are.
Installing the ext4 mod will not wipe your phone. There's a forum in the development section with the mods that you need. You will have to root your phone though (there's also a way to do that without wiping your phone, check the forum).
Hope that helps, and I hope other people weigh in on the kernel question.
I have rooted my phone, I choose to not unlock the bootloader cause after looking it, it doesn't seem like something I really need for what I want to do.
I installed the Trinity Stock kernel which has Voodoo Audio, BFS, and says EXT4 with no overclocking.
I ran a quadrant and my highest scores after 3 runs in a row where:
Stock Kernel: 1660
Trinity Kernel: 1675
Im not sure if there really is a major performance improvement or not or am I missing something here. The audio does sound better and the analog control of the headphone amp is amazing.
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I have rooted my phone, I choose to not unlock the bootloader cause after looking it, it doesn't seem like something I really need for what I want to do.
I installed the Trinity Stock kernel which has Voodoo Audio, BFS, and says EXT4 with no overclocking.
I ran a quadrant and my highest scores after 3 runs in a row where:
Stock Kernel: 1660
Trinity Kernel: 1675
Im not sure if there really is a major performance improvement or not or am I missing something here. The audio does sound better and the analog control of the headphone amp is amazing.
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I get 2100+ with CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.3 CFS; also, benchmarking doesn't really mean much. it doesn't record the performance on a daily basis.
I highly recommend trying out CM7; you could perform a nandroid backup; wipe dalvik/cache/factory and then flash CM7 and gapps. Don't like it? (I seriously doubt it; you wont be disappointed) then just nandroid restore and you're back to where you were before
P.S. I'm not responsible if you get addicted to flashing ROMs
zephiK said:
I get 2100+ with CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.3 CFS; also, benchmarking doesn't really mean much. it doesn't record the performance on a daily basis.
I highly recommend trying out CM7; you could perform a nandroid backup; wipe dalvik/cache/factory and then flash CM7 and gapps. Don't like it? (I seriously doubt it; you wont be disappointed) then just nandroid restore and you're back to where you were before
P.S. I'm not responsible if you get addicted to flashing ROMs
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How is CM7 so much better than the stock ROM as far as increasing the performance? And is there a good how-to to get it flashed to the most recent build and also to return to stock if I'm not happy
I tried the Netarchy kernel and its benching at 2425 on the stock 2.3.2 ROM, and it boots so much faster and feels overall snappier after a bit of use. LOVE THIS!!!
So I got things figured out still working on customization a bit, figured I would try out some launchers and things, right now Im using LauncherPro.
But my main questions now are how do yall encode video for your phones? I have tried a few settings on HandBrake and they seem to crash doubletwist and not play in the default media player. So if someone could help me with the settings yall use, perfer not to get another application cause I use Handbrake for other encoding needs as well.
Does anyone know of any widgets that will show me the cell strength and my data connection type (wifi, 3g, edge) so that I can move those to my home screen and not be required to have the notification bar.
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So I got things figured out still working on customization a bit, figured I would try out some launchers and things, right now Im using LauncherPro.
But my main questions now are how do yall encode video for your phones? I have tried a few settings on HandBrake and they seem to crash doubletwist and not play in the default media player. So if someone could help me with the settings yall use, perfer not to get another application cause I use Handbrake for other encoding needs as well.
Does anyone know of any widgets that will show me the cell strength and my data connection type (wifi, 3g, edge) so that I can move those to my home screen and not be required to have the notification bar.
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Video Player: I recommend RockPlayer, you don't have to encode anything. it plays it natively with the exception of 720p (sadly.. 720p, it lags.. but everything else is fine).
Yes, I FINALLY did it!!! I overclocked my G2X. I would appreciate if anyone could share their experiences with o.c. pros and cons... Should I retreat or stay where I am? Please some feed back!
Over 1300 seems to cause trouble on mine.
i dont think oc'ing is really that necessary with a phone this fast but if u must i wouldn't go above 1.3 (just seems unstable above that). I think the "Pros" come from being able to underclock. Setting up profiles for uc'ing when screen is off or as battery level drops etc really prolongs the life of the battery (at least in my case)
On my OG droid that came limited at 550 mhz, ya, oc'ing was def necessary but I cant really think of any "Pros" for oc'ing this phone.
each phone is different though so play around and you'll find a combination that works great for your phone, good luck
Well... you can get some serious bench scores... This thing rocks the Mandelbrot multithread test in smartbench 2011 at 1.5 ghz. Other than that it helps with games.
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wu_wei_lion said:
Well... you can get some serious bench scores... This thing rocks the Mandelbrot multithread test in smartbench 2011 at 1.5 ghz. Other than that it helps with games.
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What about the CPU not having enough cooling and frying the CPU over time. I presume its just like Desktop overclocking but without all the extra cooling you can add to make it safe for the hardware.
tombaker1 said:
What about the CPU not having enough cooling and frying the CPU over time. I presume its just like Desktop overclocking but without all the extra cooling you can add to make it safe for the hardware.
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But what i really want to know is if oc could damage the phone. After all if there is that danger it's noy worth it...
In all honesty I used to be really into benchmark scores and OCing the heck out of my phone and under volting it in the process but that led to many battery pulls ect. What I've noticed is just keep it at stock and mild uving seems to be the best for me its stable decently fast just 2 cents though
Overclocking a cpu is the same as on a pc, only a bit more dangerous on a phone. (This phone already has overheating problems running at stock speeds ) On a computer, people pay a premium for parts that are easily overclocked, and have either very good fans/heatsinks or a liquid cooling rig.
Overclocking is dangerous, especially because not all chips are going to be made equal, even if they come off the same production line. These chips are designed to run at a certain voltage, and certain clock speed. As far as real world use, (NOT benchmarks. Sure, they look pretty and all, but benchmarks are never very accurate.)
Sure, you might get 2-3 more fps on your games, but is that worth the risk of shortening the life of your chip/phone?
(And just so you know, I've been building/overclocking pc's for years, but I also understand what you need to do to keep it stable, and it's *all about cooling*.)
If you're not convinced, try this. Don't overclock your phone, and use it for a few days. Tell me honestly that you really notice a real-usable difference with the chip overclocked or not. (Games set aside, but like I said, getting a couple extra fps on a game to me isn't worth the risk without a proper cooling setup)
For those of you that really don't understand what you're doing to your chips when you overclock, I'd suggest doing some reading about it. A good place to start would be here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking
So you think using fauxs kernel is not safe or reduces the life of the chip? I just flashed it and didnt oc or uv further then fauxs default settings...
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I'm not saying it's for sure, I'm saying there's a chance.
Plus keep in mind that these kernels have other really nice additions besides overclocking and undervolting. I'm using faux's stock voltage kernel ext4, and leaving it at stock settings, and it really works great.
I just posted this up because I see a lot of people more interested in quadrant scores (which to me are pretty useless) than stability of their phones. If you do overclock, and it works for you, more power to you. I just want to inform people. I'd HIGHLY suggest if you aren't sure, read that wiki article, it's a great place to start. (not all information is there, but it gives a very good general idea on how and what overclocking is.)
Thanks! i always like reading knowledgeable and informative posts!
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I'm not saying it's for sure, I'm saying there's a chance.
Plus keep in mind that these kernels have other really nice additions besides overclocking and undervolting. I'm using faux's stock voltage kernel ext4, and leaving it at stock settings, and it really works great.
I just posted this up because I see a lot of people more interested in quadrant scores (which to me are pretty useless) than stability of their phones. If you do overclock, and it works for you, more power to you. I just want to inform people. I'd HIGHLY suggest if you aren't sure, read that wiki article, it's a great place to start. (not all information is there, but it gives a very good general idea on how and what overclocking is.)
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OK, you definitely convinced me.... I have also faux (let me tell you exactly - Kernel Version 2.6.32.9 FR Faux 123-v0.03) on EagleBlood 1.05. Could you please tell me what I need to do set up in order to be safe? Thanks!
I'd just go to faux's thread in the development section (his froyo thread, not the cm7 one, since you're using eagleblood), and download his stock voltage kernel. (It's in the first post.) He's on .04 now, by the way.
Then reboot into recovery, and flash the file you downloaded. It'll overwrite your current kernel and modules with the new one, then reboot.
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I'd just go to faux's thread in the development section (his froyo thread, not the cm7 one, since you're using eagleblood), and download his stock voltage kernel. (It's in the first post.) He's on .04 now, by the way.
Then reboot into recovery, and flash the file you downloaded. It'll overwrite your current kernel and modules with the new one, then reboot.
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I could not find this thread under G2X Android Development Section... I found threads Kernel Trinity, Kernel CM7, Kernel LGE Stock Froyo, Kernel Morphine... Which one is it...? Please do have some patience, at least I learn fast!
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I could not find this thread under G2X Android Development Section... I found threads Kernel Trinity, Kernel CM7, Kernel LGE Stock Froyo, Kernel Morphine... Which one is it...? Please do have some patience, at least I learn fast!
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You passed right by it. LGE stock froyo. (That doesn't mean it's a stock froyo rom, it means it's *based* on one )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102720
Choose the stock voltage one. (ext3 or 4, depending on your preference.)
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You passed right by it. LGE stock froyo. (That doesn't mean it's a stock froyo rom, it means it's *based* on one )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102720
Choose the stock voltage one. (ext3 or 4, depending on your preference.)
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Thanks you've been very helpful. That's why I made this post I hope this can help other people as well as it's helped me! )
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I could not find this thread under G2X Android Development Section... I found threads Kernel Trinity, Kernel CM7, Kernel LGE Stock Froyo, Kernel Morphine... Which one is it...? Please do have some patience, at least I learn fast!
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And a lot of times the kernel will be credited to the developer. So if you see "faux's kernel" people are referring to kernels by faux123. Trinity kernels were developed by morfic. If you are having a hard time finding a specific one, look at the top left to see who started the thread and sometimes that will help find it. Does that make sense? I had to pull an overnight at work so I am a little loopy....
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Can anyone explain to me what kernels are what is their function? I noticed that the update did not change my kernel. Is that a bad thing that they did not include a new one in the update? Also I am voinv to be installing xboarxers stock. Rom first to root the phone and I want know if I should chance the kernal and what effect it will have. I am taking small steps because want to understand what I am doing. Thank for any help you guys can give me.
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The kernel is the lowest point in the system. It controls how the software communicates with the hardware: how the CPU behaves, how the buttons behave, how the screen functions, etc.
The main use of custom kernels is to Overclock and Undervolt. OC means pushing your CPU to be faster than it was ever intended to be; you get better performance but if overclocked too long, it will be damaged. Worst case scenario, you will literally melt your motherboard. But this is only a danger if you leave it overclocked 24/7 and constantly push the CPU to its limits (playing 3d games for instance)
Faux's kernel can OC to 1.5 GHz and Morfic's can OC to 1.1.
The next common use is Undervolting, which means giving your CPU less electricity than it would like. This again is extremely dangerous if not done properly, but yields noticeably better battery life. Morfic's is the best for UV IMO, though you cannot change the undervolting, he has it locked into what he has found to be the best. And this isn't necessarily a bad thing, as too much UVing will cause potentially serious stability issues with the device. It's not nearly as dangerous as improper OCing (it won't permanently ruin the hardware) but it is a danger. Faux's lets you UV to your heart's content.
Faux's is better if you want performance, because it has higher OC. Morfic's is better if you want battery life, because it has better UV and the CPU clock speeds themselves are better tuned for lower speeds than higher ones.
I absolutely love my faux kernel. its at 1.4 and amazing battery life. The screen sensitivity is awesome. Honestly its all prefrence.... I won't go away from cm7w/ faux
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computing%29
I'd start here. Or just google info on the linux kernel (since that's what android runs on top of.)
Can you flash faux kernel on top of bionix 2
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When you flash a kernel, you just need to know what the base of it is to pick the proper one. There are really only 3 bases at the moment:
1. Stock 2.2 That'd be faux's .5, and I know morfic has some older 2.2 based kernels in his thread.
2. Stock 2.3 (Which faux is working on now, there are a couple floating around)
3. CM7 Faux and morfic both have kernels that work here. (2.3.4 and 2.3.5 based roms use this, miui, and of course cm7 )
Bionix is based on 2.2 (Which I haven't actually checked, but I'm sure it's in the first post.)
For most of them, just read the first post, or even the title. It'll say what it's based on, and then you can flash whatever you want. Just always do a nandroid backup before, you never know if you might for whatever reason have to flash back. If you don't, you need to reinstall your rom (or manually change the kernel and modules, of course) to get back to what the rom came with.
Happy flashing.
If i am running stock rooted GB OTA, can I flash faux's latest Kernel 006 with ext4?? Or do you have to have an ext4 rom to be able to flash ext4 kernels?
Thanks.
Thanks a lot that shed some light on. The subject
So it appears that the dev will tell you which mernels arw compatible with their rom in the thread for that particilar rom. If I want to use eglesblood which is 2.3.4 or.5 xan I use tbe stock kernel? Also what is the difference between the .3 .4 and .5 in the gingerbread make is that carrier specific or moel specific like the blackbwrry 8520 is for tmo and 8530 is for sprint?
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2.3.4 and 2.3.5 are based on cm7 code, so you'd use the cm7 based kernel. (LG hasn't given us 2.3.4 or 2.3.5).
As far as ext4, it's a different file system is all. Faux's kernels mount the data and system partitions as ext4, but don't actually convert them. Morfic's do a full convert. Ext3/4 support is in the kernel, not the rom, so as long as the kernel supports it you can do it. (Which every custom kernel I've seen supports ext4)
If you want more information, google is your friend. Here is a pretty simplistic explanation of the ext2,3,and 4.
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4/
As for the differences, 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 had some major framework changes. 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 seems to be only minor bugfixes. If you want full changelogs, I'd google them.
So if I want to use eglesblood then I have to change the kernel too? Do I have to do it separately or is it included in the rom?
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You never *need* to change kernels. Using the kernel that comes with the roms works just fine. Only time you need to change kernels is if you want to overclock, (never really saw the point in it, and quadrant benchmarks are useless.) want tun or cifs support, undervolting, ext4, etc.
If you don't need any of those things, or don't know what they are, just stick with the kernel that comes with the rom.
Okay that's cool so all I have to do is put EB on my SD card and flash away I am thinking about starting simple first with either xboarders stock or tweeked
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Well the thing is I don't know wich kernel to pair up with Hellfire Phoenix 2.1 so far it's what I have liked the most.
The stock kernel gives funky battery readings, I tried trinity ELP kernel but my phone doesn't last much as I'd like it to maybe I'm asking for too much from my g2x.
So what I would like to know is what kernel should I try for the best battery lifespan I am normally using 4g with pandora but while giving it this use and texting from time to time /checking facebook it doesn't last me through half a day I start using the phone from around 6-6:30 Am and by 1 pm my phone is at 20%. I give it breaks of around 1-3 hours in wich I disable data/ I also keep sync and wifi disabled.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and +Thanks will be given to those that are helpful
PS.I have yet to try Eaglesblood 2.3.7 is it worth compared to hellfire ?
Using data on the phone like Pandora and Facebook for one hour will drop my battery about 15-20% on 4g so, 5 hours worth is about normal in my opinion if you plan on doing that all the time I suggest extra batteries or extended. You're simply asking too much IMO!
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Using data on the phone like Pandora and Facebook for one hour will drop my battery about 15-20% on 4g so, 5 hours worth is about normal in my opinion if you plan on doing that all the time I suggest extra batteries or extended. You're simply asking too much IMO!
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Thought so "( Either way With what Kernel could I get the best out of hellfire phoenix 2.1? Also I'm confused on some things like with the trinity ELP kernel it says it's 1.1ghz/UC does that mean it is undervolted while being overclocked by 100mhz (just making sure) also in CM settings I have the option of setting the cpu speed.. now if I set it lets sayy 750mhz is it also undervolting it?
I'm sure I don't need 1ghz for the use I give it most of the time I could just change it back when I
m in the mood for gaming or does this scale depending on the task?
Sorry for so many questions I'm still new to this and I want to be sure of everything
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Thought so "( Either way With what Kernel could I get the best out of hellfire phoenix 2.1? Also I'm confused on some things like with the trinity ELP kernel it says it's 1.1ghz/UC does that mean it is undervolted while being overclocked by 100mhz (just making sure) also in CM settings I have the option of setting the cpu speed.. now if I set it lets sayy 750mhz is it also undervolting it?
I'm sure I don't need 1ghz for the use I give it most of the time I could just change it back when I
m in the mood for gaming or does this scale depending on the task?
Sorry for so many questions I'm still new to this and I want to be sure of everything
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I'd say either the kernel you have now or Faux UV version... look up the thread that shows "how to undervolt" (or something close) and go that route if you truly want to get the best battery life (I don't undervolt as I get the battery I need for my daily activities.)
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I'd say either the kernel you have now or Faux UV version... look up the thread that shows "how to undervolt" (or something close) and go that route if you truly want to get the best battery life (I don't undervolt as I get the battery I need for my daily activities.)
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So Faux123 Kernels are the ones people use the most for what I've seen.
I'm not sure wich faux kernel I have It says 2.6.32.56 CM7 Faux123-049, I checked the thread and latest is 0.48 soo I'm a bit lost there
I've also seen some people say they prefer the trinity kernel because it was released later.
I've tried both the stock Faux that comes with hellfire and the trinity I do not see any difference whatsoever in battery life or stability ( trinity does score significantly higher on benchmarks)
I could careless about benchmarks haven't ran one since I got this phone and oc'ed it to 1.5 to see what would happen... other wise they are just options some of our phones can't handle certain kernels... play with them and see which you like more. My only advice is faux cm version lol ds causes the funky readings.
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faux 049b5 is for ICS roms, 048 is for GB roms. Don't mix them up or rom won't boot.
Doing anything on 4g will drain your battery much faster. If you can switch to 2g/3g networks while not using data, it can save a lot of battery power. Try Juicedefender ultimate also. It helps in toggling/switching options for you.
Every phone is different plus everyonez preferences/usage are unique. Best bet is to try both for a week or so and then decide for yourself.
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faux 049b5 is for ICS roms, 048 is for GB roms. Don't mix them up or rom won't boot.
Doing anything on 4g will drain your battery much faster. If you can switch to 2g/3g networks while not using data, it can save a lot of battery power. Try Juicedefender ultimate also. It helps in toggling/switching options for you.
Every phone is different plus everyonez preferences/usage are unique. Best bet is to try both for a week or so and then decide for yourself.
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I am not mixing anything Up that was the information given my kernel information in the about phone section what I wish to know wich faux kernel I actually have.
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I am not mixing anything Up that was the information given my kernel information in the about phone section what I wish to know wich faux kernel I actually have.
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If your running the stock kernel on hfp you have 049b1ds
Pin it to Win it.
I.R.Chevy said:
If your running the stock kernel on hfp you have 049b1ds
Pin it to Win it.
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Should be 48b 49 is only ICS I thought.
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Anyways I flashed the 1.1ghz/UV Faux it's working with no problems so far I'll stick with this unless it gives me any kind of problem. I will look forward on getting me one of those 3500mah batteries Price/performance they seem worth it though the phone would be fat haha but w.e I like using my data without worrying of low battery through the day.
This is unrelated but just throwing it out there. The Camera ICS+ works great I see an improvement in picture quality compared to the stock and the interface is lovely
Have you not been reading anything on any of these forum's?
I know your new to this ( as you stated) but you keep asking questions that can easily be answered by just searching and reading the forums,
i keep trying to help you by (doing the searching for you) but you just keep asking the same questions over and over,
you have like at least three different forums were you keep asking about kernal's ( and in several of them i have giving you links that should answer just about every thing you need to know about kernals) if you would actually just read them.
Im not trying to flame you... its just that you keep making new threads asking pretty much the same stuff, we can tell if someone is taking the easy way out and just saying that "they searched and didn't find any thing"
the people on here that would actually help you out, know better.
because they read the forums just about every day so we know how many forums that are out their, on subjects such as kernals, like the 3 threads you started asking about them.
so again read and most of your questions will be answerd...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389069
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558080
He's right only reason I answered and didn't reply in this manner, was cause you typed out so much and I felt bad for you lol... If you answer I don't have time to read and such, then you shouldn't even have time to root the device. Laziness is pretty frowned upon on XDA. The more you read the more you would find out that everyone has different experiences with kernels. Try them out and figure it out on your own... if you have thread already about a kernel or a specific rom to choose stick to that thread and don't make a new one, as it just causes clutter for people that do use the search function, as when they search for something like "which kernel" they get
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594216&highlight=which+kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558080&highlight=which+kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586616&highlight=which+kernel
even more particular in the Hellfire 2.1 thread search "which kernel" and get this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=11147041
not so hard!
mt3g said:
if you have thread already about a kernel or a specific rom to choose stick to that thread and don't make a new one, as it just causes clutter for people that do use the search function
not so hard!
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He has this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594690
and this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588657
and even this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587055
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korny647 said:
you have like at least three different forums were you keep asking about kernal's...
...just about every thing you need to know about kernals...
...on subjects such as kernals...
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ugh please, before i kill myself... its kernel... not kernal *shivers*
its a HUGE pet peeve of mine...
mt3g said:
Should be 48b 49 is only ICS I thought.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1654-g2x...oofeb-14/page__st__190__p__471877#entry471877
Faux has 049 for CM7 according to above link, which is baked into HFP 2.1.
Klathmon said:
ugh please, before i kill myself... its kernel... not kernal *shivers*
its a HUGE pet peeve of mine...
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zechizen said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1654-g2x...oofeb-14/page__st__190__p__471877#entry471877
Faux has 049 for CM7 according to above link, which is baked into HFP 2.1.
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048 is cm and ds drivers but 049 is only availible in ds driver for GB
deathskater said:
Well the thing is I don't know wich kernel to pair up with Hellfire Phoenix 2.1 so far it's what I have liked the most.
The stock kernel gives funky battery readings, I tried trinity ELP kernel but my phone doesn't last much as I'd like it to maybe I'm asking for too much from my g2x.
So what I would like to know is what kernel should I try for the best battery lifespan I am normally using 4g with pandora but while giving it this use and texting from time to time /checking facebook it doesn't last me through half a day I start using the phone from around 6-6:30 Am and by 1 pm my phone is at 20%. I give it breaks of around 1-3 hours in wich I disable data/ I also keep sync and wifi disabled.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and +Thanks will be given to those that are helpful
PS.I have yet to try Eaglesblood 2.3.7 is it worth compared to hellfire ?
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ELP voltages are probably too low for you, thus actually causing higher drain. Try the T15 and under volt until you find your sweet spot
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So frustrated with this stupid phone. My daughter has been using it and it's slow, crashes a lot and always running out of internal storage.
Is there a STABLE ROM that has all working features that would help with the issues I'm having? I'd like something where everything (i.e. camera, wifi calling, rotation, decent battery life, etc.) is working as it should. Don't necessarily need the newest version of android, just something that will alleviate the problems I'm having without breaking anything.
Do the custom ROMs fix the problem of the extremely limited internal storage on this phone?
Thanks in advance.
Look for AntonX's Barebones in the Dev section. If you have any curiosity regarding the ROM - read through the ROM thread.
I'll second that.
Like lumin said, barebones is your best bet if you want every feature working.
The most stable ROM out there is stock. Other than that Barebones.
Good advice. I actually wound up going that way before I saw these replies.
I installed Basic with a Twist kernel, which then gave me CWM and then installed Barebones.
Went smoothly, no need at all for a data wipe. It freed some extra internal storage. Seems to be a lot smoother now, but that's really just my initial observation.
I came from stock/rooted KJ6. What's the details behind it actually running smoother with the new kernel and ROM? What exactly makes it faster if anything?
I agree, I'm running Barebones with the basic with a twist kernel. Excellent in terms of functionality and stability. Just throw on a nice launcher and enjoy! Also been on the battery for 13 hours, with moderate use. (Light Facebook and texting, app downloading) and barely at 45% battery life.
I believe the custom Kernel that antonx designed is the reason for the speed/smoothness.
These threads usually get axed by a moderator, because the best rom is the one you like.
It's a preference.
I still like gb valhalla black by RaverX3X with my Blastoff v2.5 kernel. But that's what I like. Then, of course I use a different launcher, and tweak the rom to my liking, by the time I'm done making the rom perfect, I blow it away with another cm9-aries build that is still broken.... :sigh:
The problem with these threads is someone will say that a rom someone else likes sucks and the trolls feed on this negativity and multiply in numbers until someone finally gives in and reports the thread. (usually me)
bhundven said:
These threads usually get axed by a moderator, because the best rom is the one you like.
It's a preference.
I still like gb valhalla black by RaverX3X with my Blastoff v2.5 kernel. But that's what I like. Then, of course I use a different launcher, and tweak the rom to my liking, by the time I'm done making the rom perfect, I blow it away with another cm9-aries build that is still broken.... :sigh:
The problem with these threads is someone will say that a rom someone else likes sucks and the trolls feed on this negativity and multiply in numbers until someone finally gives in and reports the thread. (usually me)
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I understand. I did give my definition of what a "best" ROM is so I'd expect that people would make suggestions geared to that, not necessarily what they like. From reading some of the threads, it seems like my needs would eliminate any ICS ROM.
I did have one random reboot with the basic with a twist/barebones combo, so that's something I have to keep an eye on.
This is my daughter's phone. I really have no interest in constantly tweaking this or getting too far away from stock. All I wanted was a to have something that wasn't as slow/laggy and to free up some system space.
Right now, I'm good with what I have. I'm still curious as to why either the kernel or the ROM would reduce lag/improve speed?
Which of these features contributes most to that and why when comparing to pure stock? ext4 file system? jhash3? build.prop/init.d tweaks? I really have no idea.
Thanks again to everyone.
Kernel
Features
initramfs from TeamAcid, including CWM5, SuperSU, forced ext4, etc.
Usual CIFS, TUN. I didn't include FUSE, if anybody needs it let me know.
BLN. Use BLN Control app from market to activate.
Voodoo Sound so paid app is not needed. Voodoo Sound app from market is required. Once installed, enable Smart Amplifier, it's the best thing you can do to improve music listening experience with our phone.
jhash3 for faster hash calculations. Used widely across the kernel, especially in networking.
OC/UV support with extended frequency table. Added 600Mhz, 900Mhz, 1.1Ghz, 1.2 Ghz, 1.3 Ghz, 1.4 Ghz. Use SetCPU or Xan's Voltage Control to enable and control frequency and voltages. Tegrak can be used only with no-OC/UV version.
ondemandX and smartassV2 governors. One of these should probably be preferred over stock ondemand. Change with SetCPU or similar.
TinyRCU. More lightweight version, it fits better our single CPU system.
Swap support, although I don't recommend using it.
SIO and BFQ I/O schedulers in addition to noop, deadline, and cfq that we already have.
ROM
Features
Will not wipe your programs or data, /data is preserved upon install
Heavily debloated. Most essentials apps are still there (like WiFi Calling)
No extra programs added, you need to add your own
ODEXed to save space in /data
CarrierIQ is completely removed
Extended Power Menu (including Screenshot)
Extended Quick Panel (10 buttons, including Data toggle)
1% battery (horizontal)
CRT-Off
Time zone version 2012b
/etc/hosts to cut ads out of the box (keep up to date with AdAway or similar)
Few conservative presets in build.prop and init.d
Basic with a Twist 1.1.3 kernel included
Hey man, from what u said bout the storage, I recommend u buy a 16/32 GB class 4-10, format it w 1-4 GB ext4 and use the app2sd or link2sd script then u dont have to worry bout those internal low storage
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daothanhduy1996 said:
Hey man, from what u said bout the storage, I recommend u buy a 16/32 GB class 4-10, format it w 1-4 GB ext4 and use the app2sd or link2sd script then u dont have to worry bout those internal low storage
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I have an SD card, I have app2sd and link2sd, but there's only so much I can move over. I'm still down to 110MB of internal storage.
I'm not sure what you mean by formatting part of the sd card as ext4. Is that some additional trick that allows me to move more things to it? Is there a thread for that somewhere?
Take a look at fota fix in the play store (market). It frees up some room. At this point, Samsung probably won't send us an update.
champ1919 said:
Take a look at fota fix in the play store (market). It frees up some room. At this point, Samsung probably won't send us an update.
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That bumped me up to about 177MB. I guess that'll hold me over for a bit.
Titanium backup has a couple cool features. Integrate updates into Rom and integrate dalvik cache into Rom. That should free up some more room.
Vote for cm9.1 unofficial w/ LZ kernel and never look back.
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Can't wait for jellybean
If I helped out, hit the thanks button.
For me i've found AntonX's Barebones to be the most stable.
I can relate, my 14yr old daughter's phone is also the SGS4g, actually my buddy Krylon's old phone, so you know it's got some miles on it, lol. (Sorry shameless name dropping, I know)
For her we went with AOKP from Team Acid and Team Kang. Phenomenal battery for a custom ROM, thanks to a great kernel and a little diligence to make sure the phone hits deep sleep. The ROM has been rock solid and has a ton of fun features for her to play with.
I was very worried about the battery draining fast during the day and the phone being dead when she might need it most. Any custom ROM would be a bit of a risk. To state the obvious here, cell phones are a critical line between child and parent these days and this phone and ROM have not let us down at all. I was very concerned for reliability and chose this phone and ROM over my old Vibrant. The Vibrant has far more options and development behind it, but so many times I would pick it up and have a problem.. for me it was big fun, but for my daughter we needed a more stable platform. Certainly nothing to take lightly.
I had the same problem with mine being slow and having a lack of internal storage. I installed remics with the hefe kernel and before I started installing apps I had 324 mb of internal storage free and my phone runs much faster and much more stable then when I was on stock or Gingerbread roms. My phone was running so badly before doing this that most games wouldn't even work and now all games that I have tried work well and I'm not running out of internal storage anymore.
PS. Switch to Nova Launcher which runs much better then the default launcher.
Best battery life: stock or stock based ROMs
Best stability: stock
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