[TESTING] Infuse 4G Video Recording & Playback Tests With Stock & Custom Roms - Samsung Infuse 4G

 
Infuse Video Camera Recording Tests With Stock And Custom Roms​
For those of you who are interested in the quality of your homemade video recordings and playback
please read on. Check out these tests which were made with all the stock and custom roms.
(these tests were conducted using a tripod and good indoor lighting)
Stock Froyo 2.2 Rom: Excellent very smooth, virtually no hesitation or lag during recording and playback of moving objects on preview screen.
(Ultimate Unbrick - Return to Stock)
Froyo 2.2.1 Custom Roms:Excellent very smooth, virtually no hesitation or lag during recording or playback of moving objects on preview screen.
(Infused 1.5.3, Infused 1.6.0, Refuse 1.7, Bionix Infinity 2.0)
Basically all the Froyo 2.2.x based custom roms all have the same results. Excellent video recording quality, smooth and virtually no noticeable hesitation or lag while recording and playback of homemade video. (I have tested different formats, 720p, 640x480 etc.)
Gingerbread Based Roms: Testing Rogers Gingerbread 2.3.x based Infuse i997 custom roms such as Infuse 2.1, CyanogenMod 7 and Hellraiser with i9000 Gingerbread based roms the video recording and playback quality with these roms were very poor with constant jerkyness, hesitation and lag due to only capturing up to 15fps like many cheaper cell phones do.
(even tried "CWM_UXKG3-rooted-de-odexed-updated_no_bootloaders_v2 & Odin_UXKG3_rooted_no_bootloaders_v2" GB roms with same results.)
These same recording/playback tests using Froyo based roms have no jerkyness, hesitation or lag due to capturing the full 30fps as advertised in the Infuse i997 specifications. (very noticable differences when comparing)
The Real Test: Record video while in Froyo based rom, flash any Gingerbread based rom, record video in gingerbread based rom then playback and compare the two videos. (this will take some time to test but for those who care enough about video recording quality it will be worth while)
You can easily see this hesitation/jerkyness while in a Gingerbread rom and the lack of hesitation/jerkyness while in Froyo roms by just starting up the camera app, switch to video camera and turning the phone in landscape mode moving slowly from left to right / right to left then speeding up little by little while looking thru viewfinder at objects on your table or desk without even starting the actual video recording.
It took me over 3 hours to conduct all these tests, I wanted to be sure that I tested the Froyo stock and custom roms and all the Rogers Gingerbread based custom roms available for Infuse i997.
These tests were all conducted in the exact same lighting conditions indoors with good lighting and using a tripod.
All recording and playback tests were made with homemade videos, not movies or other videos downloaded from the web.
It would be very interesting to find out other peoples video recording and playback results and experiences under similar conditions with these Froyo/Gingerbread based roms.
I have a strong suspicion that until the DEVS get their hands on the stock AT&T retail Gingerbread rom made for Samsung Infuse i997 we will need to choose between the stock Froyo/custom Froyo roms with excellent quality homemade video recordings and playback or the much faster Gingerbread based custom roms with all the extra bells and whistles (features and options) but lacking the video record and playback quality we have in Froyo based roms.
All the DEVS here in this Infuse 4G forum are constantly working and striving to improve these custom roms for our phones and have done and are doing an excellent and wonderful job. (thanks!)
So it’s up to each of us to choose which roms to use and how important quality video recordings and playbacks are to us.
Many people here may not use the camera in the phone much at all so video recording quality is not important to them
however for those of us who do a lot of video recording with our phone and want the very best possible quality this can
and will be of great importance.
I would really like to read other people’s opinions and comments about this.
If you are interested in seeing the technical details & results with exact framerates you might want to test
using "MediaInfo". It's excellent way to test & compare results between Froyo & Gingerbread based roms.
It's fast and easy to use. It adds mediainfo into explorer's shell options.

Other than visual inspection.. Watching the vids...have you torn apart the vids and looked for specific differences in codecs, bitrate etc?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Video Bitrate & Codecs
00mred00 said:
Other than visual inspection.. Watching the vids...have you torn apart the vids and looked for specific differences in codecs, bitrate etc
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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I wish I were technically oriented enough to check for specific codecs & bitrate differences but unfortunatly I am not. However I am trying to learn.
It seems to me as if not only the frame rates (just visually speaking) seems to drop to a low enough level so most anyone conducting tests like this could easily see and compare differences, but even just looking into the viewfinder without recording anything it seems like either frame rates get dropped and/or the screen is not refreshing itself as it normally does with Froyo based roms.
Right now I am using GTG's Infuse 1.5.3 which is a Froyo based custom rom, it may not be the latest and greatest of all custom roms for the Infuse i997 but since quality video recording is a must-have for me it's my first choice as of now.
It's approx. 2X faster than stock Froyo rom and has a lot of extra features and options compared to stock.
I just hope that the DEVS get the complete FULL AT&T Stock Infuse GB rom soon so perhaps it can also do quality video recordings just as good if not better than AT&T Froyo based roms.
Hopefully one of these days I will have learned enough about these things so I could make a more informed and techincal explaination to all these tests I made.
I really love photography, especially now since the Infuse is so good at video recording, just about as good as many camcorders and I always have my phone with me wherever I go.
Thanks for your comment.

Looks like u answered my question about the video recording its a Rogers rom issue I take it..I'm running a gb rom on my infuse and a froyo rom on my wife's infuse and compared the 2 cause I'm always using my camera to record my lil girls.. the froyo rom records twice as fast as gb roms..frames per second..like u I have tried all gb roms too and have had the same issue which really sucks..love the bells and whistles of gb but hate the recording so I keep going back to infused 1.5.3 froyo.but thanks for answering my question cause I was getting really frustrated with it..also I work for Att and a gb update is coming very soon..read it today on our internal stuff..

Looks Like I am NOT Alone!
Task775 said:
Looks like u answered my question about the video recording its a Rogers rom issue I take it..I'm running a gb rom on my infuse and a froyo rom on my wife's infuse and compared the 2 cause I'm always using my camera to record my lil girls.. the froyo rom records twice as fast as gb roms..frames per second..like u I have tried all gb roms too and have had the same issue which really sucks..love the bells and whistles of gb but hate the recording so I keep going back to infused 1.5.3 froyo.but thanks for answering my question cause I was getting really frustrated with it..also I work for Att and a gb update is coming very soon..read it today on our internal stuff..
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So you are running the same rom as I am, it looks like you have done your homework about this as well as I have. (testing video recordings).
Well at least now I know that I am not the only one who has noticed this video recording issue which by the looks of it is not much of a issue for most people here in this forum. So far I have not read any posts here which mentions this video recording issue. (except yours)
I guess that most people here just do not pay much attention to the video quality which our Samsung Infuse is capable of or don't use the camera part very often to notice the differences in frame rates. (big difference)
Personally one of the main reasons for getting the Infuse 4G for me was the video recording quality it can produce.
(for the price we pay for the Infuse it better have excellent video recording quality)
I am certain that after the DEVS get their hands on a 100% stock AT&T Gingerbread rom that within a couple days more or less this video recording issue will be a thing of the past and we can move up to Gingerbread custom roms and have at least as good quality video recordings if not better than these Froyo based custom roms which we are using now.
Thanks for your comment!

There is a program was used with the EVO to show in that case (same type of suspicions) that there was actually no difference.
I will see If I can find it...
it was mmpeg something or another I believe

For reference, here's a MediaInfo dump of a video I took on June 09 (on a Froyo ROM):
Code:
General
Complete name : C:\video-2011-06-09-17-08-30.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : 3GPP Media Release 4
Codec ID : 3gp4
File size : 249 MiB
Duration : 2mn 53s
Overall bit rate : 12.1 Mbps
Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2mn 53s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 12.0 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Stream size : 248 MiB (99%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 173098
Material_StreamSize : 260103689
Material_FrameCount : 5201
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 2mn 52s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 60.3 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 68.9 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 16.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.24 MiB (0%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 172900
Material_StreamSize : 1295557
Although it's not specified in the container, the video plays at 30 frames per second.

Infuse 4G Video Recording
00mred00 said:
There is a program was used with the EVO to show in that case (same type of suspicions) that there was actually no difference.
I will see If I can find it...
it was mmpeg something or another I believe
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Well you just about made my point, I am writing about homemade recordings, and the format the camera uses for video recording is NOT MPG.
Our cameras record video in 3GP video format.
I know that there is nothing wrong with the playback of avi/mpg/mpeg4/mkv/divx formats. The playback using those formats are excellent, but those are not the formats our phones use to record homemade videos.
When we download or watch videos or movies from internet and different sources like YouTube or if we encode DVDs and play them on our phones they all play perfectly well with close to 30 FPS.
It's just like I said in the original posting, the HOMEMADE videos which we record on our phones are not up to par at all if we use the current Gingerbread based roms.
With Froyo based roms these Homemade videos are just about as as good as watching HD movies on TV. (sometimes better).
Make the test yourself. I have Avatar the full movie (AVI format) on my external sdcard and it plays 100% perfect on either Gingerbread or Froyo based roms. (but its not a homemade video recorded on the phone)...

Have you guys tried comparing the videos on a computer instead of just playing them back on the phone? Maybe the issue is with video playback only and not with the actual recording.

Oops, this post was in error...

Also a mediainfo dump from a gingerbread recording could be helpful.

MediaInfo Dumps
gtg465x said:
Also a mediainfo dump from a gingerbread recording could be helpful.
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Ok below is a mediainfo dump from your Infuse 2.1.0 custom GB rom.
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General
Complete name : 1.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : 3GPP Media Release 4
Codec ID : 3gp4
File size : 12.9 MiB
Duration : 1mn 0s
Overall bit rate : 1 796 Kbps
Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1mn 0s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 732 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 14.990 fps
Minimum frame rate : 5.181 fps
Maximum frame rate : 15.625 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.334
Stream size : 12.4 MiB (96%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 60174
Material_StreamSize : 13026738
Material_FrameCount : 901
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1mn 0s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 61.2 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 70.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 16.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 448 KiB (3%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 60255
Material_StreamSize : 459307
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Below is a mediainfo dump from your Infuse 1.5.3 custom Froyo rom.
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General
Complete name : 2.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : 3GPP Media Release 4
Codec ID : 3gp4
File size : 13.0 MiB
Duration : 31s 184ms
Overall bit rate : 3 505 Kbps
Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 31s 184ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 440 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 29.919 fps
Minimum frame rate : 25.641 fps
Maximum frame rate : 33.333 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.333
Stream size : 12.8 MiB (98%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 31217
Material_StreamSize : 13407780
Material_FrameCount : 933
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 31s 70ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 60.4 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 70.1 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 16.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 228 KiB (2%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 31135
Material_StreamSize : 234157
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As you can see, its a big difference, I am really surprised that I have not yet seen anyone writing anything about this.
(unless I missed something)
It's not just your custom roms, its ALL the Rogers based custom GB roms which I tested for hours today, (even the CM7 has the same problem) then I tested Froyo stock/Froyo custom and saw a world of difference even without checking it out in mediainfo.
Hope this helps! (looking forward to a custom GB rom which has 25-29fps)
Have a great day and keep up the good work with all the custom roms.

Comparing videos on computer
gtg465x said:
Have you guys tried comparing the videos on a computer instead of just playing them back on the phone? Maybe the issue is with video playback only and not with the actual recording.
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I have tried that too gtg, I even copied 4-5 different homemade videos which was recorded on GB based custom rom from phone to computer and they all have the same flaw (dropping 1/2 the frames).
I did the same thing with homemade video recorded when on a Froyo based custom rom and the results were nothing short of stunning. BIG difference.
If you make a homemade video recording of a person sitting on a chair and basically not moving around much or moving very slowly except for talking
then it may be a bit more diffiult to test and compare.
I found the best way to conduct recording tests is to have the subject walk back and forth left to right of the camera 5-6 times approx. 6-8 ft from the camera in at least average lighting and while holding the camera real still.
(tripod is best)
Another good test is if you can PAN the camera left to right / right to left slowly and gradually picking up speed as you view small objects on a desk or table.
I have about 6 full length movies on my phone and all play flawlessly. (GB or Froyo)
Even the playback on GB custom roms play back flawlessly if using homemade videos recorded with Froyo rom installed. So the playback is not the problem at all. (my adult videos play flawlessly too )

Thanks for making the text color the same as the background...
Sent from my SGH-I997

Misterjunky said:
Well you just about made my point, I am writing about homemade recordings, and the format the camera uses for video recording is NOT MPG.
Our cameras record video in 3GP video format.
I know that there is nothing wrong with the playback of avi/mpg/mpeg4/mkv/divx formats. The playback using those formats are excellent, but those are not the formats our phones use to record homemade videos.
When we download or watch videos or movies from internet and different sources like YouTube or if we encode DVDs and play them on our phones they all play perfectly well with close to 30 FPS.
It's just like I said in the original posting, the HOMEMADE videos which we record on our phones are not up to par at all if we use the current Gingerbread based roms.
With Froyo based roms these Homemade videos are just about as as good as watching HD movies on TV. (sometimes better).
Make the test yourself. I have Avatar the full movie (AVI format) on my external sdcard and it plays 100% perfect on either Gingerbread or Froyo based roms. (but its not a homemade video recorded on the phone)...
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haha...I made no reference to what we were recording in...the name of the program we used to get the media dump was mpg something another

Mediainfo
00mred00 said:
haha...I made no reference to what we were recording in...the name of the program we used to get the media dump was mpg something another
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If you want a media dump here is what most others are using.
"Mediainfo" here is the link just incase you want to try it out:
http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/p.../0.7.48/MediaInfo_GUI_0.7.48_Windows_i386.exe
Its excellent, fast and easy to use.. It adds mediainfo into explorer's shell commands.

Misterjunky said:
If you want a media dump here is what most others are using.
"Mediainfo" here is the link just incase you want to try it out:
http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/p.../0.7.48/MediaInfo_GUI_0.7.48_Windows_i386.exe
Its excellent, fast and easy to use.. It adds mediainfo into explorer's shell commands.
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I will check it out! need to find the 64 bit version though

I'm looking into the issue. Hopefully it can be fixed by editing mediaprofiles.xml, but I'm suspecting it might be a kernel issue, or even worse, an issue in one of the libs. It's clear that the Gingerbread firware shipping on Rogers Infuses was not ready for prime time. Hopefully the AT&T Gingerbread release doesn't have all of these problems.

Thanks for sharing your research and findings Misterjunky. I shot video* last week on vacation and was thinking "I don't remember that jerkiness??".
Now I know what to do to resolve (v1.5.3)...since I'm going backpacking for 6 days post Labor day and desire the excellent video capabilities of my Infuse 4G (I carry extra, cheap ebay batteries which seem to work very well).
*Currrent Infused V2...soon to be V1.5.3 (time to do some reading on how to go backwards...I'll figure it out, if nothing else I can return to stock then upgrade from there...I know how to do that ).
thanks again

re: video recording issue
gtg465x said:
I'm looking into the issue. Hopefully it can be fixed by editing mediaprofiles.xml, but I'm suspecting it might be a kernel issue, or even worse, an issue in one of the libs. It's clear that the Gingerbread firware shipping on Rogers Infuses was not ready for prime time. Hopefully the AT&T Gingerbread release doesn't have all of these problems.
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Here is an idea which may be helpful to you before you start digging into the problem.
Why not ask someone who purchased a Rogers Samsung Infuse i997 which was shipped
with Gingerbread rom from the factory and and ask them to do a mediainfo dump to see
if the 100% stock retail Rogers i997 also has this issue with video recording.
It might be a good place to start.

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Raphael Video Encoding Thread

NOTE: USE OF THIS THREAD AND INFO ASSUMES YOU HAVE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO USE / ENCODE ALL SOURCE MATERIALS. I AM A US CITIZEN AND A SOLDIER, AND HENCE FALL UNDER JURISDICTION OF MANY ORGANIZATIONS, TO INCLUDE THE FEDERAL CENSORSHIP CLUB (FCC) AND THE DOUCHEBAGS MOLESTING CONSUMERS ACT. NO QUESTIONS WILL BE FIELDED REGARDING RIPPING, DOWNLOADING, OR PIRATING OF SOURCE MEDIA, REGARDLESS OF THE INQUIRER'S NATIONALITY. - Fathead, P.I.
This thread will be about video encoding, with the end product being the Raphael. My current Device, Radio and ROM are in my sig and updated for reference.
The premise of this guide: Using freely available (NON-WAREZ) CODEC and software, the user will be able to create video with audio playable on a HTC Touch Pro. The video will be of a watchable quality and small in file size.
Some of you may be familiar with my work on SEGA Dreamcast with GypPlay, DC-Divx, DC-VCD standard, and XDP (X-Rips, Inc. Dreampassport, English translation of DP 2 and above)
- Fathead, P.I.
----- START OF THEOREY -----
If you're like me, the first thing you asked yourself after buying your Fuse was "HOLY ****! I can run 4x the storage on this thing that my old Wizard could!" Yes, 16 GB of Micro-SD goodness is freakin' sweet. But how to use it? You can only listen to so much music per week, even with Napster To Go. You can only play so many games. (I'm further reduced due to lack of a usable joy pad for Pocket Nester.) Why not throw some movies on this joker?
----- VIDEO FORMAT -----
The first thing most people want to know is "What resolution and format should I use?" I am a longtime fan of Divx. I have used it to successfully create video content for low end devices, specifically the SEGA Dreamcast. Creating or downsampling content for a mobile phone gives us a considerable edge over bigger-screen counterparts. Before we jump into the configuration of settings and knob-dicking with software, let's figure out just what kind of video we want to produce.
FRAME RATE
Most content you find will come in one of 3 frame rates:
30 FPS (VHS / NTSC Broadcast / DVD / Blu-Ray(?) )
25 FPS (PAL)
23.976 FPS (Actual frame rate used to record cinema and produce much media)
The first thing you need to realize is that many things initially encoded in 30 FPS can be converted back to 23.976 FPS with no loss of fluidity or data. If your source is a webcam, skip the scaling to 23.976 and drop down to frame decimation. If your source is film, you're in luck. The other frames are just dummy frames that waste a little data. Deleting those frames frees up more video data to better express the picture information in the other 23.976 frames. This trick allows you to:
A. Use a lower bitrate (and hence smaller file) for the same picture OR
B. Get a better picture at the current bitrate
To figure out the frame rate, load up your file in V-Dub and go to File - File Information. The Data Rate box in the Video Stream area will tell you current bit rate, while frame size will give you resolution and frame rate. If you have a 23.976 FPS source, continue. If you have a 30 FPS source that you think should be 23.976 FPS (Film, etc) :
1. Load up the file in V-Dub.
2. Go to the Video drop down menu. Select Frame Rate (CTL+R is shortcut)
3. Change the Frame Rate on the source to 23.976 FPS.
If you continue to have audio sync issues with this method, leave the file at 30 FPS and continue.
Now we are going to look at frame decimation. Frame decimation drops every X frame while keeping the audio sync'd. The end result is a file X the frame rate of the source. While this is noticeable on large screens, on the Touch Pro / Diamond Screens (and probably even the HD), it shouldn't be an issue at all. You can play with this option. It is more noticeable on film, but I cannot see a difference at all on animated sources.
I use the decimate by 2 option in VDub. Video -> Frame Rate (CTL+R shortcut) and select Decimate video frame rate by 2. Our output video is now half the frame rate of our source. The end result is we can:
A. Get a better picture with the current video bit rate OR
B. Lower the video bit rate to get the same picture in a smaller size.
I use option B. Another big advantage here is that the device is trying to decode half the frames. A general rule about audio and video playback: The lower the bit rate you ask the device to handle, the less work it has to do to decode and display the video, and less battery power will be used.
RESOLUTION
Most content you will find is around 640 x 480. DVD sources usually come around 720x480. Blu-Ray would be above that, but possibly scaled down. We are going to watch this movie on a 3 inch screen. Guess what that means? If we never found a video about 320x240, or comparable widescreen resolution, It wouldn't matter. At all. Stepping up to 640x480 is just going to quadruple the amount of pixels we are trying to express on a limited budget.
A handy tool I use in V-Dub is the 2:1 reduction filter (high quality). To kick kit on, go to Video -> Filters (CTL+F). Click add, and it should be the first filter you can choose. This cuts your resolution by half. As a rule of thumb, If I've got a source that's around 640x480 (or 16:9 equiv) or higher, I hit it with the 2:1. You'll find oddball sources like 480 x 360, you can give it a shot, but it might not be worth it. Again, lower resolution means less pixels to express both in bit rate and in reproduction (playback).
Pausing here again, tired as hell.
THE SOFTWARE I USE
Video Editing / Audio and Video Compression and Mux - Virtual Dub. Totally free. I usually refer to this as VDub.
Home
Download
Audio Compression CODEC - LAME MP3 - Free and versatile.
Home
Compiled Binaries
Use the ACM Binary here for Windows and Virtual Dub
Video Compression CODEC / PC and SP/PPC Player - Divx - Decoder, player, mobile player, and MOST of the Encoder are FREE. DO NOT POST ABOUT CRACKING THIS.
Home / CODEC and PC Player
MOBILE (PPC and SP) Player
One more for good measure...
Okay, replies and requests, go!
Am I correct in thinking that videos should be encoded in 640 x 480 ?
*RESERVED*
cucusoft
i use Cucusoft Ultimate DVD + Video Converter Suite
mpeg-4
video bitrate 600kbit/s
framerate, depends from 23.976 to 25 (not important)
videosize 480x368
format 4:3
audio aac
128kb/s
samplerate 48000k
2 chanels stereo
it works fine, no framedrops
played with coreplayer 1.25 build 4506
I just use the standard 700mb divx movie in .avi
I use the free divx player V0.91
Smaller would be sweeter.
Taking a break for a bit, added some new material. Internets in the hotel are barely functional.
I'll be focusing on getting files down to smaller levels. The theorey should give you enough information to start dramatically cutting your file sizes. I've been moving my Boondocks DVD over to Divx 6.8 movies. Averaging 40 megs per episode.
I have been using spb mobile dvd for a few years now. It is very easy to use can convert straight from a dvd or a video file and supports vga res.
Will have to check that one out, have been thinking about backing up my DVD's to mobile, will be traveling about 26 - 30 weeks out of the year and need some boredom killers.
Gonna score some sleep and SEGA time, later all.
Added some new info, taking a pre breakfast nap.
i use slysoft clonedvdmobile. output at vga res and filesize around 700mb seems to run fine for me...although its not free, its well worth the money
Brendo said:
i use slysoft clonedvdmobile. output at vga res and filesize around 700mb seems to run fine for me...although its not free, its well worth the money
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This is a great bit of software. It also utilises all 4 cores on my Q6600. Another fantastic program is DvDFab which can transcode DVD to Divx/Xvid/MP4 etc on the fly, or dump the Video TS to your HD.
Going to have to check all this out. Have many a DVD that needs ripped. Wonder if any of those have a frame decimation feature. I like my 30 - 40 meg per episode cartoons.
Based on some comments in other threads, I've tried a couple of freeware programs to try to encode in the format that works so well with WMP (MP4, H.264, 640x368, 1000 Kbps, AAC @ 96Kbps): DVD Decrypter + SUPER for one and AutoMKV for the other. However, I haven't been fully successful with either, so I'm hoping that someone who uses these tools can clue me in on the appropriate settings and procedures for encoding.
The combination of DVD Decrypter and SUPER creates very nice movies for playback on the Fuze. Unfortunately, DVD Decrypter keeps the VOB structure from the DVD and SUPER follows suit, which means that a movie will be broken into several pieces at arbitrary points: unsatisfactory, to say the least. The SUPER support forum mentions a way to join inputs into a single output, but following what I understood those instructions to say did not, in fact, result in a combined file.
AutoMKV is very convenient, as it is a single program (or at least UI) to both rip and encode. Unfortunately, I haven't found the settings that generate output that is comparable to the SUPER output -- WMP won't play any of the files I've managed to create so far.
Anybody use these successfully and can share how they do it? TIA.
amerisoft, works very well for me so far, except an occasional blank screen
Just wanted to add...
I don't bother encoding video anymore. Sure, a full-blown 50 minute xvid show might be 400meg. However, the touch pro does not have any issue playing such files back.
Makes life much easier!
I'd agree. I've loaded up a couple of 700MB XVIDs and had no problem playing them.
For some reason, my Sprint Touch Pro has issues playing back even reasonable quality video. For instance, 640x480 video at 1200k (MP4) is a little choppy in WMP, and almost -everything- is extremely choppy in TCPMP, no matter how it's encoded, including 350MB 45-minute XVid TV shows.
AndyCR said:
For some reason, my Sprint Touch Pro has issues playing back even reasonable quality video. For instance, 640x480 video at 1200k (MP4) is a little choppy in WMP, and almost -everything- is extremely choppy in TCPMP, no matter how it's encoded, including 350MB 45-minute XVid TV shows.
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As I understand it, it's a driver issue. (This is what I've gathered across numerous postings here; someone please correct me if I've gotten something wrong.) The Qualcomm chipset in the TP/Fuze has an efficient driver called Qtv, but Qualcomm charges for a license. WMP appears to incorporate the driver, so it's able to handle moderately challenging videos. 1200 Kbps might be a little more than it's capable of displaying smoothly, but people have reported that 1000 Kbps plays well. On my one trial with DVD Decrypter + SUPER, that was the case for me, too -- full resolution and smooth motion for a video ripped from a DVD with the specs I reported in my earlier message in this thread.
TCPMP, on the other hand, does not include the Qtv driver, so in order to get smooth playback you have to reduce the size, resolution, or frame rate.
Coreplayer has a reverse-engineered partial driver for Qtv. As a result, it falls between TCPMP and WP in capabilities. It is claimed that version 3.0 of Coreplayer will have full Qtv support.

[Q] Best handbrake settings for Honeycomb 3.1?

I have a Handbrake profile saved from back in March. I found it from a YouTube video links section, where the author of the "how-to" video about re-encoding video for the best playback on the Xoom posted a link to a pretty good Handbrake preset for the Xoom.
I am just wondering... if video playback is now better in Honeycomb 3.1, if there would be a better setting (for better quality video) out there? Does anyone have a Handbrake preset that looks really good on the Xoom that is new for the 3.1 update?
The preset I have from March works well, and videos encoded using the preset play without stutter - but the quality is a bit blurry at times... which leads me to wonder if the Xoom couldn't handle higher quality video now.
I had lots of trouble finding the right combo with Handbrake. Videos would play fine but weren't very crisp.
Switched over to the latest version of an old app - DVD Fab. Works extremely well, videos are sharp and play buttery smooth.
JFMFT,
What setting are you currently using? I'm at work so cant check mine right now. I know whatever settings I was using seemed to work pretty well-will get back to you with specifics.
If you have a solid preset to tweak, then try using the "Constant Quality" setting under the "Video" tab:
Constant Quality - Handbrake
CRF Guide - Handbrake
Read the above links; they have great info. If you don't, then at least note that higher RF means lower quality (higher compression).
For me, a single Handbrake preset doesn't produce the results I want -- good quality balanced with decent file sizes -- across different kinds of video. Animation differs greatly from fast-paced action (frames, distinct lines/edges, blur, etc.), for example.
In Handbrake, I started with H264 baseline profile settings, then settled on some tweaks in the "Advanced" tab after some reading and experimentation:
Motorola Support FAQ: Motorola XOOM - Optimal video settings
HandBrake Docs (links to option descriptions): x264 Options - Handbrake
Now, I vary only the "Constant Quality" parameter between RF 19 and 25, depending on the type and quality of the source. It takes some trial and error, but I think it's a worthwhile effort. Working first with short samples (5-10 min) from the video source will help things move quicker, too.
Get RockPlayer, it literally plays everything.
Forget Handbrake / DVD Fab. Free vs Cost issue aside, DVD Catalyst 4 FTW!
Away from home currently, but I will check into my settings & report back soon.
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http://www.opinionatedfool.com/2011/05/2-part-mini-series-part-2-what-can-i-do.html
Hit the link above there is a section provided Handbrake info and a download link to a working preset file. =)
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http://www.opinionatedfool.com/2011/05/2-part-mini-series-part-2-what-can-i-do.html
Hit the link above there is a section provided Handbrake info and a download link to a working preset file. =)
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Link doesn't work for me
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Link doesn't work for me
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http://www.4shared.com/file/dCvb641f/Xoom.html?
try this one?
Here are my Handbrake settings for my Xoom.
I'm getting pretty good results in term of quality/size.
For the Picture settings, I'm changing the Anamorphic to None and setting the Width to 1280 (be sure to check the Keep Aspect ratio).
Maybe the Anamorphic could be changed to other, I didn't test to see the difference.
You can try setting Constant Quality or increase the Bitrate value (I'm using 1500 which seems to be enough)
Encoding is quite fast (depending of the PC of course)
Enjoy playing them with the default HC video player
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I have a Handbrake profile saved from back in March. I found it from a YouTube video links section, where the author of the "how-to" video about re-encoding video for the best playback on the Xoom posted a link to a pretty good Handbrake preset for the Xoom.
I am just wondering... if video playback is now better in Honeycomb 3.1, if there would be a better setting (for better quality video) out there? Does anyone have a Handbrake preset that looks really good on the Xoom that is new for the 3.1 update?
The preset I have from March works well, and videos encoded using the preset play without stutter - but the quality is a bit blurry at times... which leads me to wonder if the Xoom couldn't handle higher quality video now.
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"video playback is now better in Honeycomb 3.1" i agree. Honeycomb 3.1 improve the hardware capabilities, so video will play more smoothly. but for video conversion, you need to increase the bit rate. this is my own experience.

Rogers Infuse records video at 15 fps!

Hey guys i'm posting this thread to reply to a thread in the dev's section.
Since i'm a new member with under 10 posts i cannot reply to the thread in that section. Here's the thread url:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1237907
Misterjunky wanted to know if the Rogers i997 phones with Gingerbread 2.3.3 were having the same low fps recording issues as others that have complained about it.
I am here to confirm that yes, i bought the phone last week and it does in fact record video only at 15 fps, even at 1080p.
This is very frustrating!
Thank you for letting us know!
I hope we can get ot fixed
Yep, I notice the same problem. After i rooted my phone and install infused 2.1.0 and did a highest resolution recording today, notice that it is it has latency slow fps. Absolutely horrible.
Hi all,
Another Rogers User here with the same low fps issue when recording movies. I also am replying here since I can't post in the developer forum.
Had the infuse for about a month, but just recorded my first video on it yesterday and noticed the clearly low fps.
Stock infuse, no roms.
Good to know that it isn't a regression we introduced.
The media capabilities of the Rogers firmware are clearly crippled - no MHL, low FPS for video.
Same here, Rogers stock 2.3.3 ... getting half frames
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997R using XDA App
Thanks!
I Just wanted to stop by here to thank everyone here for reporting
this video recording bug in the stock Rogers Infuse Gingerbread rom.
Now we all know that this bug has nothing to do with the the customization or
improvements of the stock Rogers Gingerbread roms which the DEVS have
been working on but instead this video recording bug was in the stock
Gingerbread rom to start with.
If you guys want to check out all the technical details of your homemade
video recordings, here is a link to MediaInfo which most the devs use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=705197&d=1314737293
for Misterjunky
Rogers Stock Infuse 4G
sorry im late.
for 480
General
Complete name : C:\Users\archer\Desktop\video-2011-09-11-14-51-51.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : 3GPP Media Release 4
Codec ID : 3gp4
File size : 7.11 MiB
Duration : 32s 370ms
Overall bit rate : 1 844 Kbps
Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 32s 331ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 784 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 15.063 fps
Minimum frame rate : 14.493 fps
Maximum frame rate : 15.625 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.343
Stream size : 6.86 MiB (96%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 32397
Material_StreamSize : 7205362
Material_FrameCount : 487
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 32s 370ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 60.2 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 67.2 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 16.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 235 KiB (3%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 32435
Material_StreamSize : 240924
for 720
General
Complete name : C:\Users\archer\Desktop\video-2011-09-11-14-50-41.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : 3GPP Media Release 4
Codec ID : 3gp4
File size : 24.3 MiB
Duration : 33s 151ms
Overall bit rate : 6 137 Kbps
Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 33s 64ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 6 088 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 15.062 fps
Minimum frame rate : 14.286 fps
Maximum frame rate : 15.873 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.439
Stream size : 23.9 MiB (99%)
Language : English
Material_Duration : 33131
Material_StreamSize : 25168331
Material_FrameCount : 498
Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 33s 151ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 59.9 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 66.9 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 16.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 241 KiB (1%)
Language : English
Hi all , please see below link for 30fps fix. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271876
Confirmed working on my Rogers infuse 4g stock 2.3.3 rom. Note the lib files are 2 months newer than other lib files -- to me this indicates it's off a new version, possibly 2.3.4 . No worries to. If ud like to be on safe side like me, before u copy as per instructions, rename the original files with underscore at the end -- this was u keep originals as ...
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This fixed the fps issue on my stock rogers infuse as well. It seems to be working. I made backups of the files (only 3 of them, whereas there were 4 new files).
Thanks to all the folks who contributed to the fix
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997R using XDA App
Awsome!
Now to find where someone can post a Stock Rogers dump i can use to restore my own phone...
....Never mind, Found one!
(Had to mash 2 return to stock programs together, but it works! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315362)
Why the hell did you bump this?
duhhhh
Naphthoylindole said:
Why the hell did you bump this?
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Probably cause i JUST GOT THE PHONE!
Good for you, now go do some other things that lead to a month ban.
Naphthoylindole said:
Good for you, now go do some other things that lead to a month ban.
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Bumping a 3 week old thread can get u banned??
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I couldn't get the method to work, whenever I try to copy the 4 files into that directory (via Root Explorer) I get a error window saying it cant be done because that directory is system read only. Any thoughts?
My Infuse is from Rogers, and yes I have root from this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197248
Edit: OK the problem is fixed. While in the folder with the original files I pressed the "mount R/W" button at the top of Root Explorer and tried to paste the four modded files but got that "read only" error. For some reason doing it to the system folder first, then going to the lib folder and doing it there made it work. The video recording is simply epic!

Help with recording constant frame rate video on the HTC Desire S

I have been trying to get the most out of the camera of my HTC Desire S in terms of video quality, and now I am able to record 720p [email protected] Mbps. The vanilla camera app(rooted stock 2.3.5 ROM) records [email protected], so it is nice improvement.
I am using an app called IgCamera, it has lots of options for customization(bitrate, frame rate, codec, etc.), and I have modified the /system/etc/media_profiles.xml to increase the H264 encoder bitrate cap. It was set to 8Mbps in vanilla, I bumped it up to 24Mbps, but I have found out, that the maximum bitrate the phone can handle is 12 Mbps, any higher and the camera app freezes, and the camera cannot be used until reboot.
Now, I am looking for a way to force a constant 30 FPS. Currently, the videos are recorded with variable frame rate, and VFR is nasty for any kind of video editing. I have tried setting both the minimum and maximum frame rates in media_profiles.xml, in the encoder caps section(it seems to be the only one that affects IgCamera in any manner), but I am still getting a variable frame rate video.
Has anyone done something similar? I would appreciate any information on making a phone record CFR.

🎥 A better Slow Motion Recording Experience►

Hello, everyone‼:laugh:
Thank you for reading this.
Almost any phone of today has a Slow-Motion / High-Framerate feature.
Well, i've got nothing agianst it but there's something about it that truly sucks.
Here's my old thread about this.
The Bad method:
You Record: 00H:00M:10s@240fps (Resolution doesn't matter)
You get a Video with 80 Seconds @ 30fps
...and Muted Audio ♫♪
So that ►x1.0 isn't realtime!
Well, the iPhones record in realtime, but they can only record for 20 Seconds (real time equilevant)
kryz70fr said:
With the iPhone 5S camera software, you can edit your video to active slowmotion or not on the timeline ... how to do this with the Note 3?
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Yes, you're right!
...but the Smartphones which use the sucking method of taking Slow-Motion Videos encode the output file being Slown Down.
The one and only advantage of this method, is for Media-Players which haven't got a Fast/Slow motion playback mode so that ►x1.0 makes the Slow Motion Effect Visible.
But i'd like to have ►x1.0 is Realtime-Equivalent!
So the Correct way in my opinion [IMO] is this:
If you Record 00:00:[email protected]
The Output File must be also 00:00:10 encoded at 204FPS and with ♪♫ Audio from ALL Microphones of the Phone!
Also some other Devices use the WRONG Method:
Lumix FƵ1000 - Great Camera but Slow Motion Feature uses WRONG WAY.
Canon IXUS 255 HS
But those Devices use a Good Method!
Sony RX100/3
Canon Powershot 510HS and 50HS
Sony FDR-AX100
Samsung NX1 (i think)
Example Videos ? :
Good
Only 720p BUT
XAVCS
And Audio
And Realtime
BAD
1080p but...
No XAVCS
Not Realtime
Muted Audio
Sucks
All Example Videos are taken by DKamera.dé!
Feel free posting your opinion! :laugh:
All the best Have a good and nice day ...
High Framerate Recording
Has anybody an Opinion about this?
There are many users who want Audio on Slow-Motion.
That, what i described there ↑↑↑, also covers this.
I'd be thankful for some feedback on my suggestion.
It's also nice, if every media player in the world has following features:
Speed Up / Slow Down
If adjust speed, enable/disable adjusting Sound Pitch
...so that 120FPS with output file encoded to 30FPS and muted sound is not there anymore
With ►x1.0 i mean Original Playback Speed of the Output File.
I'd always like to have 1.0x Playback Speed being Realtime-equivalent and Sound from every microphone that the device has (not just 2), independent from the Video's Framarate . (And no time limit until the Deices Battery/Storage runs out)
Example: Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 and Note 4 have 3 Microphones. But they do only use them all for the Sound-Memo and only 2 for video recording. They also record Slow-Motion the wrong way
Feel free giving your Feedback
Slow Motion - Redefined :·) (•:
I'd always like the Output file being always RealTime ►x1.0
That means, that i'd always like to get an Output File to be Real-Time-equivalent at x1.0 Playback Speed.
►1.0 to be Real Time Speed
And surely Audio from all Microphones of the device
(In FLAC Format, 1.6 Mbit/S )
(See Video04.Mp4✔)
Just like [email protected]
If i record 00:00:[email protected] then i'd also like to have an output file with 0:00:[email protected]FPS with sound.
...and not 00:00:[email protected]FPS without sound.
It feels like Recording REAL [email protected]FPS, i don't know how to explain.
Just like normal Video Recording but with a Higher Framerate - not additionally encoded to be slown down so that Original ►x1.0 Playback Speed is 0.25x Real Time Speed or 0.125x.
And also see this
Scroll down to see what i mean.
GSMArena Blog said:
The slow motion clips might look cool on your iPhone, but they look quite disappointing on a TV or a monitor. Which reminds us of our other disappointment about the feature – when we tried to play those iPhone 5s slo-mo videos on a PC we found that unlike all previous slow motion-capable smartphones, the iPhone 5s actually encodes the video at 120 fps and your computer will play it on 120fps unless you explicitly force it to slow the video four times in order to achieve the desired slow-motion effect. It would have been way more natural the iPhone 5s to process the frames and output a standard 30fps video as most of the phones do, which doesn’t require special players and tools to play properly.
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They've got another Opinion. But their described opinion is caused by the only advantage of the sucking way to take Slow-Motion Videos.
Here’s hoping Apple fixes this promptly with an update – it certainly can’t be that hard.
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I hope not so lol
Sensor output / Output File
The Output File should have the same framerate, as the Sensor is Capturing.
(Exceptionally HDR-Video. HDR Video needs a Higher Framerate/Sensor Speed but the Outputfile is still Realtime at ►x1.0 )
﴾From my Old Thread﴿:
celderic said:
Suprised this hasn't been mentioned before, this will be very useful.
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Wow, really? Not mentioned befre?
But yes, it will be very useful :laugh:
Many Smartphone Manufacturers write in their User Manuals, that Slow Motion Recording with Audio {Sound} Recording is not possible.
So why don't manufacturers simply use the method for Slow Motion Videos that i Described?
Maybe it's just because of the „One and Only advantge of the Sucking way to take Slow Motion Videos:“
Not every player has an Adjustable Playback Speed--.....
The Galaxy K Ƶooom has also a Menu Option for PlayBack Speed for the Ouptut File.
But you only can use the 120FPS-Mode @ ¼ or ⅛ Speed for Output File, but i'd prefer it always to be x1.
I'd like 1x Playback Speed to be Real-Time Equilevant.
Accordingly, Every Player should have a Manually Settable Playback Speed, Sound Pinch, Reverse and Recording Feature.
VLC Media Player has ¾ it all - exceptionally the Reverse◄ Playback Feature.
If manufacturers fix this slow motion problem, have fun
Optical Flow / If you really want... / Video Converting,, Video Converters, Applicato
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/slopro-1000fps-slow-motion/id507232505?mt=8
This iOS-App uses Optical Flow.
I hope this app also uses ?▶► Real Slow Motion...
If you REALLY want the Output file to be not ►1.o Realtime, then you can convert it after recording it into a second file.
There are Programs to do that.
Most Famous: AVS Video Converter
Most User-Friendly and Free: FreeMake Price: €0.00
Have Fun/NiceDay/ All the best ♥:laugh:
Correction :
Correctiõn:
The NX1 also uses the Wrong way.
http://www.dkamera.de/media/testberichte/samsung/nx1/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video04.MP4
DKamera™
There's a very high Request on Slow Motion-Audio and being able to adjust the Playback Speed in the Media Player.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4/464112-slow-motion-video-sound.html
I also don't understand, why manufacturers use the Way for taking Slow Motion Videos that i mentioned, because the other frequent way sucks.
Isn't there an app, which can record slow-motion videos the way i mentioned?
However, the iPhones only use Mono-Audio for any kind of Video-Recording. Horrible.
Sony:
Their Cameras (RX100 and FDR-AX100E etc.) record slow Motion the Proper Way. Congratiulations!
But their Smartphones only allow editing before saving - once saved, you can't adjust any speeds anymore.
Canon:
Newer models like SX50 HS and 510 HS use the right way - even for 240 fps - no specific time limit!. Respect!
But the beautiful SX255 HS also sucks recording them - 120 and 240 fps. And there's a limit of 20 Seconds (in Real-Time.)
Conclusion:
There are many - also free Video-Editing Programs for adjust the speed and Sound-Pitch (Pitchbend) of vidéos - so there's (almost) no reason for the (i call it the sucking way) of recording slow motion videos. (Only reason is the missing Playback Speed Pitch in many Media Players. S5+ aka S5 LTE A had it - from x0.5 up to x1.5 Playback Speed - even for 4k-Videos up to 61.2 mBit/s Bitrate!)
And also - setting playback is a small additional step before enjoying the Motion but if this step is too much, you're lazy.
Concluson
I wanted to send (post) this message 20 Minutes before already - but i forgot to press the Sumbit-Button :laugh:
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Galaxy S6
Finally Samsung did it:
I'm rather disappointed from the S6 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3044369 )
but finally, the Galaxy S6 does the RIGHT WAY of Slow Motion Recording.
Thanks god!!!!!!
GSMArena said:
Finally, in Slow motion mode the camera goes back up to 48Mbps but is now shooting 720p @ 120fps. Videos are actually recorded at 120fps, but you can edit them on the phone - trim beginning and end and choose between half, quarter and eighth playback speed. Here's how it looks when we drop to 30fps (playing at a quarter of real time speed).
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I hope the Slow Motion also includes Audio.
Confirmed:
The S6 records Slow Motion WITH Audio and Realtime - like iPhone and SX50 and 510 HS and also RX100m3 (aka RX100 III)
GSMAréna
I was reading a Review on GSMArena.
Then i saw this:
A note about formats - the iPhone records and saves 720p videos with 240fps framerate so you'll need to either edit them on the phone to create the slowdown effect or use a video editor on your computer, just copying them would only get you an extra smooth normal speed video. The Galaxy Alpha videos are slowed down to 30fps so the slow motion is easy to share. There's an option to slow the videos down to 15fps, which matches the iPhones 8x slowdown but the result isn't as smooth
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With the Galaxy S6, Samsung finally goes the Right way, because you can Export a Version of your Video, that is actually Edited and Costumized yourself, to share or so...
It's always recomennded to keep the Original Slow Motion Video File with the Audio and the Real-Time.
The Galaxy S6 has no MicroSD-Card, no Changable battery, etc........
But in Slow Motion, the Galaxy S6 is finally the right thing.
I mentioned the Galaxy S6-Disadvantages right here.
The FDR-AX100E also uses the right way.
Hannah Stern said:
I was reading a Review on GSMArena.
Then i saw this:
With the Galaxy S6, Samsung finally goes the Right way, because you can Export a Version of your Video, that is actually Edited and Costumized yourself, to share or so...
It's always recomennded to keep the Original Slow Motion Video File with the Audio and the Real-Time.
The Galaxy S6 has no MicroSD-Card, no Changable battery, etc........
But in Slow Motion, the Galaxy S6 is finally the right thing.
I mentioned the Galaxy S6-Disadvantages right here.
The FDR-AX100E also uses the right way.
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The Exporting Feature in the Video editor isn't even at the iPhones.
I wish, Samsung already did this with a good phone like the Note 3 or so...
Wow, look at that:
http://hispeedcams.com/fz1000-crippled-high-speed-mode/
Slo-Mo-Calculator
Asks me for Desired Playback Speed? Lol....
Hannah said:
"Playback-Framerate" should be like "Shooting Frame Rate"
and "Time shot in Seconds" should be exactly identical as "Clip Playback Time"
And also, all Microphones should be used, to record the video.
Understand, what i mean?
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For Galaxy S6 users (very rare):
Too bad, that so many older phones cam't set the playback speed in the mediaplayer, so if there's trouble, sharing your high-framerate-videos, you can edit the parts with the lower playback speed and export the shareable video, and keep the original real-time HFR Clip.
That's exactly, what i wish, every manufactueres do.
Simply make a Video Editor and Set Playback Speed, instead of recording the HFR Video the wrong "sucking" way.....
Hannah Stern said:
Well, the iPhones record in realtime, but they can only record for 20 Seconds (real time equilevant)
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Oops, that was a Demo-Unit.....
LG G3, G4 and Oppo Find 7 also apply with my standards.
Doesn't the VLC beta have the slow down / speed up controls
VLC Media Player - Speed Controls
Kevingoot1 said:
Doesn't the VLC beta have the slow down / speed up controls
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Maybe it's just because of the New Design. In the Extras (or Tools) you can costumize the VLC-Design/User Interface or go to the Playback-Menu.
Try with this file:
http://www.dkamera.de/media/testber...100-iii/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video05.MP4
This Video File does comply with the Standards.
Treat like normal
I just like this type of recording the videos at a high framerate, because it treats Video Recording with a high fromerate as normal video recording. Just with a higher framerate.
Many devices have the ability to treat 1080p with 60 fps as normal video recording.
I was wondering if there's a posibility to record in slow-mo with my K900...

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