Can any buddy tell me which is best GPU adreno 330 Vs Maili T628 vs powervr sgx544
i know powervr sgx544 in S4 is slowest but i want to know comparison between adreno 330 Vs Maili T628 with their clocking frequency used in LG G2 and Note 3
rpawaskar2 said:
Can any buddy tell me which is best GPU adreno 330 Vs Maili T628 vs powervr sgx544
i know powervr sgx544 in S4 is slowest but i want to know comparison between adreno 330 Vs Maili T628 with their clocking frequency used in LG G2 and Note 3
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can any one please help
Hello everyone! With the launch of redmi note 5 pro and snapdragon 636 we have now a budget king. We know that 636 is based on 660 with reduced clocks for better efficiency , cpu cores being the same.What we don't know for sure is what gpu the 636 is using. We've been lead to believe that snapdragon 636 is using adreno 509 wich is a slight improvement over adreno 508 on snapdragon 630. Based on this article http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/ we know that adreno 506 and 508 is the same core , and adreno 510 and 512 is the same core with the latter being on a node shrink to 14nm from 28nm.
So adreno 506 at 600mhz has 120 gflops , adreno 508 at 800mhz has 160gflops, adreno 510 (28nm) at 600mhz has 180gflops and adreno 512 (14nm) at 800mhz has 240gflops..
Adreno 509 is supposed to have a bump of 10% improvement over adreno 508 wich is around 160gflops. This means adreno 509 should be around the mark of 175gflops, right between the adreno 508 and adreno 510. If adreno 509 is the same core as adreno 506 & and 508 that means adreno 509 needs al least + 10% on the clocks. 800mhz + 10% => goes to ~900mhz for adreno 509. Not impossible but not likely because don't forget snapdragon636 is meant to be very efficient and the increased consumption cuased by the delta of perf/clocks at 900mhz is very high. So taking the assumption that adreno 509 is the same core as 510 and 512 , for it to be around 175gflops it needs to be underclocked at around 550mhz. A 550mhz clock would need a lot less power then a smaller gpu core (506) but at a higher clock ~~900mhz.
Adreno 509 being the same core as 510 and 512 would be very beneficial to us ,making the snapdragon 636 a very friendly overclocker both on cpu cores and gpu cores.
The problem with this theory is : I don't have proof. I don't have a redmi note 5 pro ( it's not yet released globally) and there is a lack of information based on this gpu's on internet.
We need someone with the phone , time and willing to figure it out at what clock adreno 509 operates. From there we can see on wich gpu core adreno 509 is really based.
Any news about this? On wikipedia there is some more information, but don't know if these are true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno
Adreno 509, 510 and 512 all have 128 ALUs.
Adreno 509: 720mhz and 14nm
Adreno 510: 600mhz and 28nm
Adreno 512: 850mhz and 14nm
So if these information are true, the Adreno 509 should be faster than the Adreno 510 + less power hungry because of 14nm.
Can anyone confirm this?^^
Try it or die said:
Any news about this? On wikipedia there is some more information, but don't know if these are true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno
Adreno 509, 510 and 512 all have 128 ALUs.
Adreno 509: 720mhz and 14nm
Adreno 510: 600mhz and 28nm
Adreno 512: 850mhz and 14nm
So if these information are true, the Adreno 509 should be faster than the Adreno 510 + less power hungry because of 14nm.
Can anyone confirm this?^^
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However, my Redmi Note 5' Adreno 509 only gets 430Mhz under full load, so I think it's just a downclock version of Adreno 512. The performance of 509 is even better than 510, and barely produce any heat.
ZHQzhq087 said:
However, my Redmi Note 5' Adreno 509 only gets 430Mhz under full load, so I think it's just a downclock version of Adreno 512. The performance of 509 is even better than 510, and barely produce any heat.
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That's interesting. I just searched on YouTube for some performance videos, on Antutu the phone has a SD636 and an Adreno 512, so it could be really a downclocked version. I guess we need more information^^
Try it or die said:
That's interesting. I just searched on YouTube for some performance videos, on Antutu the phone has a SD636 and an Adreno 512, so it could be really a downclocked version. I guess we need more information^^
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if so, in the future it will be overclock adreno 509 to level 512
Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?
bbighouse said:
Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?
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Unfortunately, not yet. Some say that it's impossible to overclock but I dunno why..probably some higher level sources are locked or maybe some alu's are hardlocked is my guess. Does anyone here have an idea about it?
660 is a overclocked 636.
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Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?
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We nid proper frequency_table to do this, some kernel using source from 660 and bump CPU clock to 2.2Ghz for real, but not for the GPU, I hope someone could bring a new frequency_table for adreno 509 from scratch.. cuz its happen on sd435 just like simpleKernel by Luiz on Redmi 4x..
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We nid proper frequency_table to do this, some kernel using source from 660 and bump CPU clock to 2.2Ghz for real, but not for the GPU, I hope someone could bring a new frequency_table for adreno 509 from scratch.. cuz its happen on sd435 just like simpleKernel by Luiz on Redmi 4x..
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Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!
nakulp said:
Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!
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I tried his kernel with 675Mhz gpu clock and its awesome, it can run pubg with medium setup, the only issue is battery but I don't really care cuz higher performance = higher battery drain and its normal, I hope someone like them bring hardware unlock for our chipset,
The Restless Soul said:
660 is a overclocked 636.
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Actually its the opposite. 636 is a underclocked 660
Sent from my whyred using XDA Labs
MikiGry said:
Actually its the opposite. 636 is a underclocked 660
Sent from my whyred using XDA Labs
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It is the same thing.
nakulp said:
Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!
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Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
LuanHalaiko said:
Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Wow.. nice bro.. we hope you make it happen
636 with Fiture of 660.. "cheers"
LuanHalaiko said:
Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Thanks dude!
The goal is to overclock the SD363 to match the SD660. Most importantly the GPU! The two chips perform basically the same CPU-wise, but in graphics the 660 is 30-40% more powerful, simply because it is clocked higher.
LuanHalaiko said:
Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Thanks man, that'd be huge! I'm ready to donate too if necessary :angel:
Yeah if someone could make the GPU clocks like Adreno 512, it would be less painful to watch the Redmi note 7 and its SD660 XD
But anyway, SD636 to SD660 kernels exist for our whyred, its just a matter of getting that adreno 512. Another info is that our GPU gets 21k antutu score and 512 gets 30k. Not important but definitely a nice bump
renoxtv said:
Yeah if someone could make the GPU clocks like Adreno 512, it would be less painful to watch the Redmi note 7 and its SD660 XD
But anyway, SD636 to SD660 kernels exist for our whyred, its just a matter of getting that adreno 512. Another info is that our GPU gets 21k antutu score and 512 gets 30k. Not important but definitely a nice bump
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Exactely!
The 636 is already a MASSIVE upgrade from the 625, specially gpu-wise (about 60%) and gettin that extra 30-40% would be magical.
But, would that stress the GPU and cpu? I have senn people talking with worry about that. And I noticed that there were many kernels with oc(I think most of custom kernels for whyred started with oc) but now I think that the only one left is kangaroo. All the others removed oc and ov. Does this mean something?