I have searched and read many posts about tethering but am not clear about the subject. I have a Motorola DroidX phone with Verizon 3G, and a Transformer. Neither are rooted and I don't want to root them. I'd like to have internet access on the TF when I am not near a wifi hotspot.
I found some instructions a while back for how to tether via Bluetooth and it worked, but internet access on the TF (via the phone's 3G) seemed very slow - much slower than internet browsing directly on the phone. I'm guessing that the bluetooth connection was a bottleneck for speed. I have read that the latest ASUS latest firmware for the TF allows "ad hoc" tethering without rooting (not sure what ad hoc means). So maybe that opens a door for tethering other than via bluetooth?
Questions:
1. Can the Transformer take advantage of the DroidX's 3G access via a wi-fi connection between the two? And would that be faster than bluetooth? Are there instructions somewhere on how to do this? (Everything I found by searching required the phone and/or the TF to be rooted)
2. I read that Verizon prohibits tethering and is warning customers who do it. How would Verizon know that the phone is feeding it's 3G connection to the tablet? On Verizon's end, wouldn't it just look like you were using the phone to browse the internet?
Thanks for any insight you can provide.
I am currently using barnacle to tether my transformer through my x2 it does require root on the x2 though,works fine though.
dalemccl said:
I have searched and read many posts about tethering but am not clear about the subject. I have a Motorola DroidX phone with Verizon 3G, and a Transformer. Neither are rooted and I don't want to root them. I'd like to have internet access on the TF when I am not near a wifi hotspot.
I found some instructions a while back for how to tether via Bluetooth and it worked, but internet access on the TF (via the phone's 3G) seemed very slow - much slower than internet browsing directly on the phone. I'm guessing that the bluetooth connection was a bottleneck for speed. I have read that the latest ASUS latest firmware for the TF allows "ad hoc" tethering without rooting (not sure what ad hoc means). So maybe that opens a door for tethering other than via bluetooth?
Questions:
1. Can the Transformer take advantage of the DroidX's 3G access via a wi-fi connection between the two? And would that be faster than bluetooth? Are there instructions somewhere on how to do this? (Everything I found by searching required the phone and/or the TF to be rooted)
2. I read that Verizon prohibits tethering and is warning customers who do it. How would Verizon know that the phone is feeding it's 3G connection to the tablet? On Verizon's end, wouldn't it just look like you were using the phone to browse the internet?
Thanks for any insight you can provide.
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1. Yes, WIFI is faster than Bluetooth.
2. The DroidX can be used as a mobile (WIFI) hotspot. You must however either pay for the service through Verizon or root your phone. I am unaware of any other ways around it.
Your choices are
1. Pay for the wifi hotspots
2. Root and use a rom with a froyo based kernel, I have not had any luck tethering with a GB kernel.
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working fine here rooted and on 2.3.3 pre root
Is barnacle free? Not the app itself, but using it to tether. I'd only tether when I'm at my home in Upstate, NY, which is only 1-2 times a month, and it would be pretty useless for me to get an ISP up there or pay 20$ a month for something I only use 1-2
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Heres what I understand:
$30 Unlimited Data plan to the phone (as usual)
Optional $20 Wifi Tethering with 2GB cap (through Verizon App?)
When 2.2 comes out, will the built in Android Wifi hotspot be removed? Or will it work without the $20 wifi plan?
They have to disable it. Otherwise, who in their right mind is going to pay for something when there's software already on the phone that allows you to do it?
I guess I'll just be sticking to PdaNet. Nice try though, VZW.
Yeah, darn. Hopefully the geniuses here can find some way to reenable built in wifi tethering so that vzw cant tell that its being tethered. I want wifi on my ipad
does this mean there is a high chance this phone will be un-rootable? because of http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
2.2 source code may be released to the carriers but they can change it however they want to fit thier hardware and needs.
So if they want to take out the free wifi hotspot capabilities in 2.2 for the X or other devices and still charge for wifi hotspot capabilities with 2gb caps for 20 bux then guess what, they can.
PDAbnet may do wifi tethering but that is different from wifi hotspotting to multiple devices
remember that once rooted you can flash different roms and install any apps to your hearts content
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does this mean there is a high chance this phone will be un-rootable? because of http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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This doesn't really have any bearing on whether the phone will be unrootable - IMO every phone is rootable, it is just a matter of finding an exploit... Hopefully this phone will be easier than the last one I had (Droid ERIS :-/)
This is not correct. The Milestone has been rooted but no access to the bootloader has been had meaning no custom Tom's.
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Here is a few things to keep in mind..
The Verizon 3G app is infrastructure, thus it works with things like PSP and Nintendo DS, which is why i keep it. The Wireless tether apps are only ad-hoc for now.
From what ive been told, the verizon app loads a different firmware before running.
Now, what verizon can do and has done in the past, especially on windows mobile phones, is take out a feature like wifi hotspot in an OS, and put their own in its place.
do NOT be surprised if VZW does the same thing with 2.2 and yes, it is 20 a month for a measly 2gb on the hot spot app, but wireless tether is unlimited for 30
this is why i ONLY use the hot app for PSP and DS and the rest wi-t for root
not to mention, i am not even sure if the 2.2 is ad-hoc or infrastructure.. anyone know?
This is how the USB Tethering works for Verizon's 2.2 FroYo build, and I'll safely assume that it'll be the same for WiFi:
When you connect via USB Tethering, the phone directs you to a Verizon webpage (https://dunsp.vzw.com/selfProvisioning/SelfProvisioningServlet) which informs you of the package costs, and gives the phone number to add the package.
Interestingly enough, this only occurs if you tether it's 3G connection and not it's WiFi connection.
You may wonder why you'd want to tether a phone's WiFi connection via USB.. well.. personally I just pay for the Boingo mobile hotspot ($7.99/mo), which will work on my iPad or Droid, and if I need to use my PC, I tether my Droid's WiFi to my laptop. Saves $9.99/mo.
So I currently own a Thunderbolt on Verizon as well as a wifi only galaxy tab and a wifi only xoom.
I also have a G2X on a 2 week trial. I was going to transfer me and my gf's phones over from Verizon.
I have my G2X rooted already and I have wireless tether installed. It works but my Xoom and my Galaxy tab won't recognize it. I'm assuming this is because it's running in ad-hoc mode and not infrastructure.
If this something that can be changed with kernal upgrade or custom roms or will this phone forever broadcast ad-hoc? This is pretty important to me as it's one of my primary purposes for switching to tmobile. (4g in my area vs none for verizon as well as battery life.)
all the 3 version is infrastructure mode the 2 version is in ad hoc. try it out should work not sure yet tho. http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I feel like a tard now actually. I'm so used to having verizon I didn't realize that T-Mobile didn't take out the stock android mobile hotspot app.
Does anyone know if t-mobile makes you sign up for a tethering plan to use it? I was able to fire it up and connect both my Xoom and my galaxy tab just fine.. just don't want a suprise in my bill.
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I feel like a tard now actually. I'm so used to having verizon I didn't realize that T-Mobile didn't take out the stock android mobile hotspot app.
Does anyone know if t-mobile makes you sign up for a tethering plan to use it? I was able to fire it up and connect both my Xoom and my galaxy tab just fine.. just don't want a suprise in my bill.
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Just use it.
If you got error page, you simply add tethering option or just change browser agent (but I don't think you'll get in trouble if you tether with Android tablets).
As long as you have an unlimited data package youll be fine...they have a 2gig & 5gig. Once you go over those limits it will still work, just not as fast as before you went over the data cap. No issues with mine tho, my hotspot works fine with various devices
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access control
I keep getting access control disabled when I use either Android Wifi tethering apps I don't have a hotspot app in my G2X I went and downloaded via android any solutions to making this work??
JeffR714 said:
I keep getting access control disabled when I use either Android Wifi tethering apps I don't have a hotspot app in my G2X I went and downloaded via android any solutions to making this work??
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It's not an app, it's in the wireless network settings. Same place as wifi-bluetooth and all that. Just a check box to turn it on.
Funny story about the wireless tether for root users app.
So when I posted this that it will only work in ad-hoc mode, I found a workaround for my xoom to connect before I realized there was built in hotspot. The built in hotspot works great and it's infrastructure mode, but like my thunderbolt and droid x before it, won't stay connected in my office for some reason.
I tried the wireless tether program and low and behold it stays connected firmly in my office. Must be something about it being ad-hoc because all the infrastructure mode tethering methods I've tried will not stay connected in my office.. must be some intereference or something.
Hello,
I was curious if performing an S-Off on my Sensation 4G would allow me to create a hotspot and tether?
I currently don't have a hotspot/tether plan with T-Mobile, but I've heard there are many ways around it.
I tried searching for the keywords "hotspot" and "tether" in the "Q&A" section but the posts were from before AlphaRevX & unrevoked's S-Off came out.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do you have any recommendations?
Thank you,
lilhugo
lilhugo said:
Hello,
I was curious if performing an S-Off on my Sensation 4G would allow me to create a hotspot and tether?
I currently don't have a hotspot/tether plan with T-Mobile, but I've heard there are many ways around it.
I tried searching for the keywords "hotspot" and "tether" in the "Q&A" section but the posts were from before AlphaRevX & unrevoked's S-Off came out.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do you have any recommendations?
Thank you,
lilhugo
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theres a app called android tether in the market or search google it works i have it on my girls hd2 not on my sensation because i have a tether plan
Doesn't under 'Settings - Wireless & networks', turning on 'Portable Wi-Fi hotspot' not essentially tethering out your phone's internet to whatever device connects wifi to it?
I had someone try this on an ipad2 but claim it was very slow.
I use the USB tethering setting to whatever device that can recognize the internet connection via usb...but things like tablets usually don't take usb like for that.
That's exactly what I had to do today.
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Doesn't under 'Settings - Wireless & networks', turning on 'Portable Wi-Fi hotspot' not essentially tethering out your phone's internet to whatever device connects wifi to it?
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Internet at the office was down so I lent them my Sensation to use as wifi hotspot for the rest of the week.
I haven't installed any special software for it, so I'm pretty sure I could have done that before S-OFF.
NoSubstitute said:
Internet at the office was down so I lent them my Sensation to use as wifi hotspot for the rest of the week.
I haven't installed any special software for it, so I'm pretty sure I could have done that before S-OFF.
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if you have tmobile us that comes out off your data plan so if you reach or someone else the max data you will get throttle so watch who you lend your wifi sevice to
Okay cool.
Thanks for the info guys. I was curious... Why have a tether plan if you can just use "Wireless tether for Root Users" instead of paying for the tethering plan??
Thanks again,
lilhugo
lilhugo said:
Hello,
I was curious if performing an S-Off on my Sensation 4G would allow me to create a hotspot and tether?
I currently don't have a hotspot/tether plan with T-Mobile, but I've heard there are many ways around it.
I tried searching for the keywords "hotspot" and "tether" in the "Q&A" section but the posts were from before AlphaRevX & unrevoked's S-Off came out.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do you have any recommendations?
Thank you,
lilhugo
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Why not just use the built-in hotspot app or tethering function?
Or does T-Mobile block that stuff in the US?
phonegod said:
if you have tmobile us that comes out off your data plan so if you reach or someone else the max data you will get throttle so watch who you lend your wifi sevice to
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Not to worry. As you can see, I live in Sweden and I have no superficial limit on my data plan. Also, they only use it to surf and check emails.
Nope, I was using wifi tether the day I bought the phone long before S-off. The function has always been there for Tmo US. And you don't need a tether plan, just the data plan which is required anyway.
It has always been under the, Settings/Wireless/Portable Wifi hotspot.
Just set a password and ssid and enable the hotspot and connect your laptop, tablet ect.. and off you go!!
lilhugo said:
Hello,
I was curious if performing an S-Off on my Sensation 4G would allow me to create a hotspot and tether?
I currently don't have a hotspot/tether plan with T-Mobile, but I've heard there are many ways around it.
I tried searching for the keywords "hotspot" and "tether" in the "Q&A" section but the posts were from before AlphaRevX & unrevoked's S-Off came out.
Does anyone know if this is possible and if so do you have any recommendations?
Thank you,
lilhugo
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Hi,
I've got a European Sensation, I have S-OFF,and my wifi hotspot is working just fine.
igotpunkipowa said:
Doesn't under 'Settings - Wireless & networks', turning on 'Portable Wi-Fi hotspot' not essentially tethering out your phone's internet to whatever device connects wifi to it?
I had someone try this on an ipad2 but claim it was very slow.
I use the USB tethering setting to whatever device that can recognize the internet connection via usb...but things like tablets usually don't take usb like for that.
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Do you pay extra for USB tethering?
Sterling787 said:
Do you pay extra for USB tethering?
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See attached photo of notification from Tmobile that popped up on my Sensation (rooted, using the native Android tethering functionality)
List of phones I used for tethering in the past without getting in trouble:
Touch pro 2 via bluetooth and USB (was told at the time by tmo that there was no fee for tethering)
HD2 via bluetooth, wifi and USB (winmo and Android)
MyTouch 4g via wifi-tether (got a notice while downloading a 167MB custom ROM a month ago while driving Owned the MyTouch for 9 months without a notice, and i tethered many times a week. Even Skype video calls, and Netflix on a couple occasions)
Just got popped on my Sensation today with the attached notice. It came through "Push" messaging. I can't find where to view any previous pushed messages, but I took a screen capture before i navigated away. I think i was only watching a couple YouTube vids that were embedded in a page at 360p quality. I hadn't been tethering when the message hit my phone. It was an hour or two late.
You do have to pay if they catch you. Last month they didn't add anything to my bill. My impression is that they are starting to watch the network for signs of tethering (bittorrent would be an easy example) Or large 167MB files. They threaten to shut your connection off during tethering or severely throttle.
If you're doing light browsing on occasion, you should be fine. I'm still mad that I have a 5GB cap on 3g/4g (i average about 2GB) where they'll throttle me down to Edge if I exceed that cap. That doesn't really bother me. I don't mind the cap. Just let me tether occasionally under that cap for free. Sometimes i need to send files on my laptop to someone. Or i need the big screen for a few minutes to type a word doc to send out. It's not worth $10-15/month extra. I still have the cap to keep me honest...
The issue really came up when the Tmobile G2 was released a year ago as the first phone to take advantage of HSPA+. That's the first i ever heard of tethering requiring a special plan.
My hotspot does not work now with the stock ROM based on the new Sensation 2.3.5 leaked RUU with sence 3.5.
can anyone else with this rom or custom sence 3.5 ROM check and see if the hotspot works (to share the mobile internet)
Or anyone know how to fix? I downloaded wifi tether from the market and it conects to the PC but doesnt connect to the internet..
thanks in advance for any help.
deadpool2e said:
My hotspot does not work now with the stock ROM based on the new Sensation 2.3.5 leaked RUU with sence 3.5.
can anyone else with this rom or custom sence 3.5 ROM check and see if the hotspot works (to share the mobile internet)
Or anyone know how to fix? I downloaded wifi tether from the market and it conects to the PC but doesnt connect to the internet..
thanks in advance for any help.
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Not sure this is right place for your troubleshooting question. Try asking in a thread where the ROM is being discussed... This thread is more about not having to pay Tmo for the privilege of tethering. Most of us have a data cap (2GB or 5GB) and we want to use it up without being told which device has to be the end user of that data. Tmo is trying to make sure people don't abuse the network with high demand like replacing a home internet connection.
But, here's my advice:
Make sure you are getting a data connection on the phone. Then make sure the PC is truly getting an IP (not a private IP that usually starts 169.x.x.x i think?), it should be 192.168.x.x. If you have trouble still, try disabling the security [WEP or WPA] in the tethering app. Then see if you can connect. If you can after disabling security, then you might need to tweak the security settings in the app, and replicate them on the PC to get secure again. I don't have that ROM, so i can't be of more help.
Thanks for the reply, I would put it in the Rom thread, but don't have enough posts to do that yet.......
deadpool2e said:
My hotspot does not work now with the stock ROM based on the new Sensation 2.3.5 leaked RUU with sence 3.5.
can anyone else with this rom or custom sence 3.5 ROM check and see if the hotspot works (to share the mobile internet)
Or anyone know how to fix? I downloaded wifi tether from the market and it conects to the PC but doesnt connect to the internet..
thanks in advance for any help.
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FIXED with this http://androidforums.com/1734672-post32.html
guess it was just a orange thing....
Tmous action against tether
Ok. Now Tmo has gone farther. I posted earlier in this thread about their notices against tethering. Now they've gone a step further. I was tethering this morning and uploading a 55MB youtube video from my laptop. I got another push message warning me against tethering without the add-on plan and then my upload failed. I tried to pull up google.com on my laptop, and it went to a tmobile page encouraging me to add the tether option to my monthly plan. (see attached).
I am rooted and even just installed a 3rd party app for tethering by barnacle. Somehow Tmo still figured it out. The worst part is i could email the 55MB (via gmail) to my phone and then I could upload it to youtube via 3g/4g on my phone. This would cost Tmobil data twice (once each way to my phone).
I'm not asking to abuse my internet connection (i'm capped at 5gb/month anyway, then EDGE speeds after that). On my phone, I could easily watch Netflix for a few hours and Skype video conference all day long, and tax their network like crazy. But even with tethering, i've only used 1-2 GB per month. Maybe I'll send the video to my dropbox, then download it to my phone, and upload it from there. F*%k you Tmo! I'm buying 5GB/month, let me used it on my 15" screen with a full keyboard! I'm not asking for unlimited high speed data to replace my DSL (yeah, i know DSL is no faster than my 4G. It's better at my house than my tmo connection though).
pokeycd said:
Ok. Now Tmo has gone farther. I posted earlier in this thread about their notices against tethering. Now they've gone a step further. I was tethering this morning and uploading a 55MB youtube video from my laptop. I got another push message warning me against tethering without the add-on plan and then my upload failed. I tried to pull up google.com on my laptop, and it went to a tmobile page encouraging me to add the tether option to my monthly plan. (see attached).
I am rooted and even just installed a 3rd party app for tethering by barnacle. Somehow Tmo still figured it out. The worst part is i could email the 55MB (via gmail) to my phone and then I could upload it to youtube via 3g/4g on my phone. This would cost Tmobil data twice (once each way to my phone).
I'm not asking to abuse my internet connection (i'm capped at 5gb/month anyway, then EDGE speeds after that). On my phone, I could easily watch Netflix for a few hours and Skype video conference all day long, and tax their network like crazy. But even with tethering, i've only used 1-2 GB per month. Maybe I'll send the video to my dropbox, then download it to my phone, and upload it from there. F*%k you Tmo! I'm buying 5GB/month, let me used it on my 15" screen with a full keyboard! I'm not asking for unlimited high speed data to replace my DSL (yeah, i know DSL is no faster than my 4G. It's better at my house than my tmo connection though).
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You have got to be kidding me .. what next?
I have never had this problem with tmous. I regularly tether laptops, tablets and ipods to my Sensation with no issue/message. Heck, I moved into my new apartment a few months ago, and while I didn't have internet, I tethered my xbox to my sensation and played on that. HSPA+ was more than fast enough to give me no lag while pwning n00bs.
just downloaded it tonight. runing great.got 4g speed tethering,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Android hacker Koush makes mobile internet tethering undetectable by carriers
http://www.slashgear.com/android-ha...-tethering-undetectable-by-carriers-02205425/
Sooo what's the difference between this one and all the other ones? Currently on my phone I have both the Wired Tether and Wireless Tether apps (neither available on the marketplace but easy to find in the right places). I've never gotten a message from ATT once about tethering - and I do it more often than not, using just the Wireless Tether app. Averaging 4 GB a month total data (tether and legit non-tether data combined)
Kudous to Koushik for getting a workaround like that, but the necessity of a laptop kind of puts the kibosh on it for me since I'd use the hotspot feature for tablets mainly.
^^ agreed. wifi tether trumps usb tether. main reason i rooted in the first place. but good to know that non root options exist.
I'm going on a road trip and want to use my Skyrocket to give Internet access to my Dell Mini laptop. So I called AT&T to ask how that could be done. I was willing to pay whatever fee's they required.
But they told me the only way to do it is for me to relinquish my current unlimited-data play. Then they would put me on a new plan that allows "tethering".
But I could never go back to my unlimited-data plan afterwards.
WTF?
So I'm rooted & running SkyICS ROM.
What is the best way for me to get my laptop onto the Internet using my AT&T cell data service? I just need it for a couple weeks.
CZ Eddie said:
I'm going on a road trip and want to use my Skyrocket to give Internet access to my Dell Mini laptop. So I called AT&T to ask how that could be done. I was willing to pay whatever fee's they required.
But they told me the only way to do it is for me to relinquish my current unlimited-data play. Then they would put me on a new plan that allows "tethering".
But I could never go back to my unlimited-data plan afterwards.
WTF?
So I'm rooted & running SkyICS ROM.
What is the best way for me to get my laptop onto the Internet using my AT&T cell data service? I just need it for a couple weeks.
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Use the hotspot or usb tether on your phone
You will be prevented from using USB tether or WiFi tether if you don't have a tethering plan from AT&T. Since you are rooted, freezing programs is possible (using Titanium Backup, or others). Freezing a certain program that manages tethering (which I will leave nameless so that I am not implicated in violating AT&Ts rules ).
I have used this method myself, and tried the WiFi tethering. It works, but I might not recommended using it excessively. AT&T apparently can tell by looking at the data if you are tethering, and the more you do it, the more likely they will check. But for brief usage, it has worked well, and I haven't received any of the nasty-gram texts. The risk, of course, is that they will automatically change you over to a tiered data plan with tethering.
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You will be prevented from using USB tether or WiFi tether if you don't have a tethering plan from AT&T. Since you are rooted, freezing programs is possible (using Titanium Backup, or others). Freezing a certain program that manages tethering (which I will leave nameless so that I am not implicated in violating AT&Ts rules ).
I have used this method myself, and tried the WiFi tethering. It works, but I might not recommended using it excessively. AT&T apparently can tell by looking at the data if you are tethering, and the more you do it, the more likely they will check. But for brief usage, it has worked well, and I haven't received any of the nasty-gram texts. The risk, of course, is that they will automatically change you over to a tiered data plan with tethering.
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The rom he is on may have already enabled tethering as well, as most roms do this. But yes, when I was stock rooted I froze the "nameless thing" as well.
I pulled open Titanium backup and don't see the tethermanager in the list so I can freeze it?
I don't want USB tethering, just wireless.
CZ Eddie said:
I pulled open Titanium backup and don't see the tethermanager in the list so I can freeze it?
I don't want USB tethering, just wireless.
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It's probably already baked into your rom.
Open wireless and network/ tethering portable and hotspot /portable wifi hotspot settings/ and then tick the box PORTABLE WI-FI HOTSPOT. See if it works for ya
I use open garden to tether.
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Foxfi from the play store works. I've only tested it out briefly to see if it worked. Haven't used it to much so I don't know if att will send you a text. No root necessary either.
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