Hello, Extreme noobpost incoming
I’m planning on rooting my HTC Sensation and have never ever tried something like it before.
I thought I would use this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300) to do it but would like you experts to answer some questions I got before I do it. And they are probably extremely noobish for you folks, so please bare with me or just stop reading here
1. I live in Sweden and thereby have a Swedish unbranded HTC Sensation. Is there any difference in the phones in different countries that might be a problem if I use the guide above or are all HTC Sensations the same?
2. If I do the things in the guide above, (yeah I plan on doing everything I can do, why go half the way. Well I don’t know but I thought I follow the guide fully), will the warranty on my phone still apply?
3. What risks are there if I do these steps in the guide? Is there any risk of permanently damaging or totally destroy my phone to the point that I have to buy a new one?
4. The main reason I want to do this is because I’m curious to what I can do to the phone afterwards but also because of the game “Paradise Island” that I’m playing and can’t save or backup cause the game doesn’t offer those options. Can I root the phone even if I don’t reset the phone back to the state when I bought it? Total reset. Or is it better to first reset the phone before I start using the guide?
5. What is the reason to get S_ON back when you once got S-OFF. Is S-ON needed to do any specific things?
6. I don’t fully understand what SuperCID means but do I need it if I’m planning on keeping HTC Sense or use the following ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849)? And is this ROM better than the stock one in performance. I really want to use HTC Sense because I like it very much and from what I understood, the ROM I linked to is an improved HTC Sense stock ROM, right?
7. Is it hard to redo all this if I for some reason would change my mind? It’s not like I can just hit the “reset to manufactured state” and it’s all back to the beginning right?
8. What is KERNEL? -.-
9. What are Radios?
10. What app should I use to make a backup before I start all of this? Titanium backup? Or is this only working when the phone is rooted?
11. Is it possible to get 5-6 columns/rows instead of the standard 4 in HTC Sense when rooted or using the ROM posted above? And is it possible to get landscape mode?
12. I have read about overclocking the phone and is it worth it? Will it be that faster and whats the risk of damaging the phone?
13. What is the main things I got to do to be certain that I successfully beckup my paradise island game before I start wrecking my phone . Cause I think I will after reading all these questions to my self again
Maybe I got more questions later, until then…
Thanks for the help in advance and hope someone understands the dilemma I got.
I really want to try all of this but I’m really a bit scared of screwing up my game and my phone.
1: don't think so
2: nope, will be voided.
3: yeap, a new shiny expensive paper weight.
4: don't get you
5: warranty! You'll be able to get back your warranty ( but I'd say flash back your stock Rom )
6: cid is like a code that different types of sense uses. Here in Asia its HTC_04 thus if I tried flashing any other Rom that does not have that code, it'll come up with an error. Super cid allows you to flash ANY Rom you want
7: not really
8: kernel is the heart ( or brain ) of android and Linux distros. Basicly without it nothing would work
9: I have no.idea either xd
10: yeap and yeap
11: if on stock you'd have to mod yourself. Most custom roms have this already
12: I'd say stay away from it
13: wait whut?
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illuminarias said:
2: nope, will be voided.
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Thats not true if you read the same thread tells you how to get s-on back (restoring warranty)
Read on brother, I said if you s-on you get it back
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Just FYI for those wondering about warranty. I rooted my Nexus One and returned it to HTC for a replacement while it was still rooted with S-OFF and they sent me a new one with no questions asked. Then I exchanged two MyTouch 4G's, both with S=OFF, to two separate T-Mobile stores and both were replaced with no questions asked.
I'm sure that your warranty is technically voided once you S=OFF. However, I am now convinced that more times than not T-Mobile or HTC will still honor the warranty as long as there is no physical damage.
Just my $0.02.
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Long ago, when I bought my Inspire 4G, my intent was to root it and install custom ROMs. With the old process using CMD to create a Gold Card, I also somehow created a file called "PD98IMG.zip". What I have learned is that, when on the SD card, when I place my phone into HBOOT, it will return to whatever that zip is, which is my stock rom. I'm not sure how I acquired it, but whatever.
Just in the last month or so, I dropped my phone in a toilet (don't ask), and I got it replaced with a new Inspire 4G. I was lucky that I had the water damage warranty. I went to go and root it like two days after I got it, only to discover that the old process didn't exist anymore, and wouldn't have worked with my Gingerbread-shipped Inspire 4G anyways. So I went off and used the Ace Hack Kit (worked flawlessly) and have been enjoying my time with the recently uploaded ICS ROM.
But when it comes to to get my phone replaced again (water damage, stolen, dropped, broken camera, broken volume or lock keys, etc.), will the "PD98IMG.zip" I had before work on my new device to put it back to stock? Or will this new device not accept a ROM from an older phone? And if so, what are my options for returning to the stock ROM using HBOOT?
Also, while I'm on HBOOT, does the said program worked on bricked devices? I would imagine you could access it anytime with the normal volume down+lock button, right, regardless of whether or not the device is bricked?
Thanks for reading this entire thing, I just like being really specific!
Jake Root
Haven't tried yet as I don't have reason too...but for educational purposes watch this to give you an exact idea of what said program is capable of...and always make sure using the latest version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eMcpoTPMU
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Most likely the older PD98IMG is for the froyo OS. I know they changed something in the Inspires after august and it may not work correctly with your newer made phone. Also just running that file will not give you s-on anyways. So just forget it.
Just use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit. It can download the appropriate ROM and return your phone back to s-on. It is all you will need.
I appreciate the responses guys. Agoattamer, do you know if, running the Ace Hack Kit, there is a menu option in the hack-ace.cmd for returning to stock Android Gingerbread? I was reading the effin' manual, but because I am kind of a n00b, I only sort of understood it. I read the following:
Flash Gingerbread Update
Flash AT&T RUU 2.47.502.7_26.10.04.03_M
I have no idea what that means. Is this a menu option in the cmd?
Thanks again, I really don't want to screw anything up.
Cheers,
Jake
P.s. What is RUU? I keep seeing it but I'm not sure of its meaning.
Yes the hack kit has a menu for returning to stock. Ruu stands for rom update utility. Its essentially the program used to flash a stock image(where the pd98img comes from)
Check out the video see how the menu options look like.
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If you read the first post of the Advanced Ace Hack Kit thread (yes you have to read the first post and the effen manual) you will even see pics of the menu mentioned. We can't stress enough here on XDA, especially if you are new. Read, Read, Read.
So if I ever need s-on and return to stock I can just use the ace hack kit? Will it be just like the rooting process where it just does it for you? Sorry kinda new
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This is also a way to return to stock using a pd98img. Different method, same end result
genes tool
Just select gb version.
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Once again guys, I really appreciate your responses...a bit overwhelming, but every question I had was answered, so thanks!
Agoattamer, you are correct. I didn't look at that video close enough. I think I began watching it, and I thought it was something else, so I stopped and went on my way. Fatal mistake on my part.
Jake Root
Hi folks.
You'll have to excuse me, as I know next to nothing about putting roms and whatnot into my phone - but I am super excited about being able to learn how, etc.
I'm currently using a totally stock and normal HTC Sensation 4G and have been since roughly the time it came out with my carrier. The phone has started being... weird, so I'm looking to change things around with it.
Anyways - I've been looking around the site and trying to find what exactly is the best starting point for somebody with absolutely no experience.
I've seen some noob threads here and there, but I'm not sure if they're leading me to readying my phone to throw no a new rom. Is there just some sort of state to put my phone into and then be able to flash whatever rom is available for it?
This is what I started looking at but I'm not sure if this a good jump off or not to ready my phone for fun changes.
Thanks for being patient with me on this.
Read this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Basically, you need to S-OFF your phone, and install a new recovery. Then you can flash new roms from your new recovery.
Use the Revolutionary method in the guide to unlock your phone. Install the Clockworkmod Recovery, and Super CID if you want. That just means that you'll be able to flash a rom meant for *any* carrier, not just your own.
That's it.
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Read this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Basically, you need to S-OFF your phone, and install a new recovery. Then you can flash new roms from your new recovery.
Use the Revolutionary method in the guide to unlock your phone. Install the Clockworkmod Recovery, and Super CID if you want. That just means that you'll be able to flash a rom meant for *any* carrier, not just your own.
That's it.
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Thanks!
That's exactly what I needed. I plan on digging around when I get home.
Good luck. Just remember to read everything all the way through before you do anything, and make sure that you understand all of the steps. Most of the problems that people have is because they just don't read the information/guides.
59seconds said:
Good luck. Just remember to read everything all the way through before you do anything, and make sure that you understand all of the steps. Most of the problems that people have is because they just don't read the information/guides.
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Fair advice for nearly anything!
Question about doing all this...
Do I have to have my phone connected to my computer? Or is this done primarily through the phone?
You'll need to transfer over some files. Super CID requires you to run commands to your phone from your computer, but that's it. It's definitely worth it to have fastboot and adb running on your computer in case you need it.
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You'll need to transfer over some files. Super CID requires you to run commands to your phone from your computer, but that's it. It's definitely worth it to have fastboot and adb running on your computer in case you need it.
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Great! I will keep that in mind for when I'm there!
Is this generally a long winded process?
Nah The first time is a bit of work since you have to S-OFF your phone and install a recovery. But it's a breeze after that. So many people have done it and the xda forums are very helpful. I followed that guide the first time and had zero problems.
So, hopefully somebody will have a bit of an idea what to do here...
First things first. I'm doing this all through a bootcamp-esque program from my Macbook - and currently on Windows 7, as there's only Windows and Linux available for the Revolutionary method.
I've downloaded the program. Opened it into a folder, etc. Turned on USB debugging and done everything else the tutorial has mentioned.
Has anybody had similar issues before?
speps said:
Hi folks.
You'll have to excuse me, as I know next to nothing about putting roms and whatnot into my phone - but I am super excited about being able to learn how, etc.
I'm currently using a totally stock and normal HTC Sensation 4G and have been since roughly the time it came out with my carrier. The phone has started being... weird, so I'm looking to change things around with it.
Anyways - I've been looking around the site and trying to find what exactly is the best starting point for somebody with absolutely no experience.
I've seen some noob threads here and there, but I'm not sure if they're leading me to readying my phone to throw no a new rom. Is there just some sort of state to put my phone into and then be able to flash whatever rom is available for it?
This is what I started looking at but I'm not sure if this a good jump off or not to ready my phone for fun changes.
Thanks for being patient with me on this.
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You mentioned the phone being "weird", in what way is it weird? If this turns out to be a hardware issue or something that requires you to send the phone back to the manufacturer, rooting the phone can void your warranty (if you have any warranty left).
Please keep this in mind prior to rooting your phone. There is a way to flash your phone back to stock and return S-ON but from what I hear it is a little risky and there is a chance of bricking your phone while doing it (as with any part of the rooting process).
When following directions for rooting, I would advise you to read the whole instructions list first to ensure you have an understanding of the whole process, so you don't get stuck at any steps. Make sure you follow the guides exactly as well.
Never heard of anyone doing this through bootcamp on a MAC, but as with any compatability issues, if you have any strange issues with any of the steps it is best to use a native Windows or Linux machine to perform the rooting process.
I have never had any issues with any rooting process, for my SGS and Sensation XE using a Windows 7 64bit computer.
rickadlee said:
You mentioned the phone being "weird", in what way is it weird? If this turns out to be a hardware issue or something that requires you to send the phone back to the manufacturer, rooting the phone can void your warranty (if you have any warranty left).
Please keep this in mind prior to rooting your phone. There is a way to flash your phone back to stock and return S-ON but from what I hear it is a little risky and there is a chance of bricking your phone while doing it (as with any part of the rooting process).
When following directions for rooting, I would advise you to read the whole instructions list first to ensure you have an understanding of the whole process, so you don't get stuck at any steps. Make sure you follow the guides exactly as well.
Never heard of anyone doing this through bootcamp on a MAC, but as with any compatability issues, if you have any strange issues with any of the steps it is best to use a native Windows or Linux machine to perform the rooting process.
I have never had any issues with any rooting process, for my SGS and Sensation XE using a Windows 7 64bit computer.
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It's been doing a lot of the issues listed here - plus, the battery life is just absolute crap. I've ordered new batteries for it (the 1900mAh Anker ones people here discussed before) and taken a few other steps to try and make it work in my favour a bit more.
I was able to almost complete the S-Off process last night, although I hit a brick wall as it just continued on the "Zerging root" while using Revolutionary. Damn.
I may try again when I get home.
One thing NO ONE ever points you to do but is, in my mind, the most important thing is to try a make sure there is an RUU available for your current ROM.
An RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility) is a complete ROM from HTC which will restore your phone to stock should you need to send it back for a warranty claim.
To check for an RUU, you first need to know your current ROM version that your phone came with. Go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the 'Software version' e.g. 1.50.401.3
Once you have that, go here and try to find a file name matching the version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
If you find one, download it and keep it safe
EddyOS said:
One thing NO ONE ever points you to do but is, in my mind, the most important thing is to try a make sure there is an RUU available for your current ROM.
An RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility) is a complete ROM from HTC which will restore your phone to stock should you need to send it back for a warranty claim.
To check for an RUU, you first need to know your current ROM version that your phone came with. Go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the 'Software version' e.g. 1.50.401.3
Once you have that, go here and try to find a file name matching the version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
If you find one, download it and keep it safe
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I'll be sure to do that. Thanks!
Would anybody know why I keep getting stuck at the "zerging root.." portion?
Unless it usually takes a few minutes, it seems to just... hang.
As far as I can tell, everything else is set up correctly for this to work.
Hi all. im new to this scene and need some advice. originally all i wanted was to root my phone to get rid of 'manufacture installed apps' that i never use. now im looking into it and hear about the s-off capabilities. i want to try it out,but fear i may brick my phone as i dont fully understand all the terminologies people use and the programs affiliated. is there somebody who can explain it all simply and the risks involved? i have looked into many forums so far, but people are speaking a language i dont understand!
what is:
eMMC
De-Branding
Flashing
RUU
Bootloader
any help is greatly apprieciated
Craig
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBxiFGexRA. Hope this helps you out
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Follow the guides exactly and you wont fail. The Sensation is one of the easiest devices Ive ever rooted. It is literally a 2 minute opperation to get s-off.
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well - I think that if this thread is a brief info for newbies it is important to mention that there is no way to do S-OFF if you have updated your device to ICS and hboot 1.27.0000 before you start. TRKAAA have given me an excellent overview of the options for the moment in that case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298&highlight=trkaa&page=32
Read the guides and download all the necessary files, use the search to look for what means what. and also read carefully the guide to s-off and root. Is a BIG help.
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so i finally have a htc sensation now...
i want to root it...
version: 4.0.3......
DR_MOOSAVI said:
so i finally have a htc sensation now...
i want to root it...
version: 4.0.3......
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As you want 4.0.3 first you should make your device ics flashable
For that this is the best guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Follow every step carefully
Then you can flash custom Rom of your choice
For ARHD you can follow the thread posted earlier by henrylar
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My tip is to read, read, read then read it again. Make sure your totally comfortable about the procedure and what is supposed to happen and what can happen. And if you get stuck, SEARCH. what ever happens to you, guaranteed 100% its happened to someone else.
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@ everyone who's responded so far: I don't think you're understanding what he's asking for. You can't follow the guides word-for-word when there's words you don't understand in it, like flash. And even if the instructions were completely dumbed-down, some people would actually like to understand what and why they're doing this instead of blindly following orders. Plus, outside of the step-by-step instructions, writers will use the lingo again. These are terms that should really be addressed in the n00b guide but aren't. I'm just moving to the Sensation, and it's my first HTC phone, and it can be quite confusing!
@Craig:
Google is your friend. Just type in something like "RUU android" (without quotes) and you'll find plenty of answers. But, as someone who just spent several days trying to understand the lingo, I know that it takes time and sometimes some awesome searching skills to find the answers. Plus, I like explaining concepts I've just learned to others to make sure I definitely understand them! So, here you go:
eMMC: Embedded MultiMedia Card. Basically, it's like an SD card that's integrated into the hardware (and obviously can't be removed).
De-Branding: Most carriers load extra software/mods onto their devices. For example, you might have an app to interact with your account, see how many minutes you've used, pay bills, etc. You might also have a bootscreen (the one that plays right before the lockscreen shows up and can go on and on for several minutes depending on what mods you've just done) that has your carrier's logo, and various apps for other services, and a lot of other junk. When you "debrand" your phone, you're removing all the changes the carrier made and reverting to the manufacturer's version of the ROM.
Flashing: This basically means "installing from fastboot/recovery mode". The term refers to the "flash memory" in your device that's being used in the process.
RUU: ROM Update Utility. It's actually a PC application (made by HTC) that helps you update your ROM. The ROM it will install is bundled with it, so there's many RUUs available. For that reason, the term is frequently used to refer to a carrier-specific ROM. Very helpful if you want to unroot your phone and make the carrier think you've never done anything that voids the warranty.
Bootloader: Loads up the boot sequence on your device. It's the very first thing that runs when you power on your device (or computer, or anything that has an OS), and tells it (after some little self-tests) the physical location of the OS and how to start it.
Some good resources that aren't specific to the Sensation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805247
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601 (the "general guides")
Hi,
I have ARHD 6.6.3 installed and I need to send the phone in for warranty repairs.
I've seen the guides to getting back to S-on, but I want to make sure I understand the order of operations. I'm super CID'd and s-off.
Could someone walk me through this?
Do I need to flash an older firmware first? Should I use a RUU? Which one for a T-Mo 4g US? Do I need to restore the CID?
It would be most helpful if you could respond like this:
1) Do this first
2) Then follow steps 4-9 in this guide
3) Watch out for this problem
I'm not interested in bricking the phone on purpose, unless this is absolutely required to do the warranty mailing.
Thanks
I don't think anyone is gonna waste their time rewriting something that has been put on here a bunch of times already. I'm not telling you to figure out your phone yourself but I will say you can find the answer on xda yourself if you simply open your eyes and look.
I am trying to attempt messing with this type of thing for the first time so noob handling will be required. My reason is simply my phone is a nice wallpaper display three days after the ota from tmobile 1.63.531.2 710rd.
I began by trying to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1505999
To no avail. Of course I noticed afterwards that for some reason it says to turn s-on in the header... exactly the opposite what what I need to flash the phone back to (PG59IMG_Doubleshot_TMOUS_1.28.531.9_Radio_10.48.9007.00U_10.12.9007.07_M2_release_201815_signed.zip) I have had problems with the phone ever since its first ota a year or so ago. With this latest ota the phone is more or less bricked as of the phone using power saver when I went to sleep last night... Wont call or check into the network...no dial tone. Took me 3-4 restarts for it to even show the antenna symbol and the 4g icon in the taskbar.
My phone is set as S-on for now. The only instructions I have found through the search tool relay how to do it to the sensation... I believe that is the mytouch 4g not slide. However I have the slide which is doubleshot. So my question is, is this instruction on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 safe to use with the doubleshot since the (T-Mobile branded HTC myTouch 4g Slide ( doubleshot ) Developers Reference) page links to it indirectly. Using the link at the top of the how to S-on after s-off... again the opposite of what I need so I tried following the link at the top of that page " Guide to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on " which takes you to the s-off instruction page for the sensation (Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 )...I am guessing that it will work and sensation refers to HTC sense, but I don't care to make the mistake of doing it wrong and bricking my phone due to being derp.
I know there is a bit of overdone explanation and redundancy in the addresses I have left here. I am just trying to cover all my bases thanks for the help in advance.
The short and sweet is I need a link by link list with instructions on how to step my phone back for multiple reasons. First the recent OTA more or less broke my phone and I don't want a refurb phone with inferior parts from Assurion...(They were in class action lawsuits for this in the past.) nor do I want to pay 130$ for said replacement. Next from what I just read the 1.63 update has some serious security compromises that are awaiting response from HTC for an update. Basically it gives full accesses to all your data to include your sim and SD card contents to all apps. Regardless of user specified/agreed permissions.
Following ANY routine or procedure for another phone is just too dangerous & will never work anyway. The bad part being you may very well create a brick in the process. If you have the MT4G SLIDE, this is where you will get all that you need so don't even consider other threads.
Since you've done the OTA & are sitting at Hboot 1.63.XXX now you will HAVE to get S-Off before you can go back to your previous Hboot. To DO that you will have to follow the instructions HERE.
If all you are wanting to do is start flashing ROMs, then the instructions you need are HERE.
Keep us informed & we'll try to help if you need it. Good Luck!
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Following ANY routine or procedure for another phone is just too dangerous & will never work anyway. The bad part being you may very well create a brick in the process. If you have the MT4G SLIDE, this is where you will get all that you need so don't even consider other threads.
Since you've done the OTA & are sitting at Hboot 1.63.XXX now you will HAVE to get S-Off before you can go back to your previous Hboot. To DO that you will have to follow the instructions HERE.
If all you are wanting to do is start flashing ROMs, then the instructions you need are HERE.
Keep us informed & we'll try to help if you need it. Good Luck!
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Thanks for the hasty post reply any other suggestions...I have win7ult 64bit. Or will will juopunutbutter work even though they have the below disclaimer?
"Supported Operating Systems:
We only support Windows 7 32bit or Ubuntu 12.04 (and newer) 32bit, you may use a LiveCD if you have the wrong OS installed natively. Win XP 32bit might work for you but we do not support it as we did not test on it."
Also, this, "Be on the Stock RUU and be rooted (have superuser flashed). No other ROMs are supported, Fresh ROM will not work regardless of what you have read elsewhere."
-I am not rooted. Which is something else I want to accomplish so I can set up firewalls that block certain things.
Oh btw provided I can get this phone working again I am also going to attempt to reflash my older mytouch 3g... back to original as well that thing worked better than any of the current phones for my purposes before it got the update prior to the 2.2.1... the original update didn't work with adobe which is fine with me, people need to move on from adobe's garbage anyway. Specifically with the old mytough 3g though that really did add functionality at the sacrifice of sanity since it slowed the phone down so much. On that note though I may just put on a custom if I can get comfortable with this stuff. The last time I looked at a pc this hard was back in win98se when you had to know how to do tricks to make it faster like modifying available rame to twice as much above and below physical ram and a few other tweeks I have long forgotten.
That brings me to another question. If I go custom rom and unlocked this looming threat of brick is weighing in on me. If a phone is bricked is it possible to recover using some of the same tools that bricked it in the first place... flash install original rom as a fix? Just trying to see how much margin of error I have to work with.
Thanks again.
PS who do we talk to about backing off all the java on the site since it is so compromised right now? This sight has more java permissions than most sights of ill reput... though I have been reading these forums off and on for a while so I trust it more than most with this much tracking. I doubt patch 11 actually fixed the issue...since the day before they said it would take two years or more to actually resolve the java zero day exploit.
You should be fine with your pc, I used a 64bit win7 too. If you're worried dual boot linux.
Your my touch 3g is rooted diferentley, go to that forum for details, its not true radio soff but its close enough.
If you brick it its dead, depending how it was bricked jtag could bring it back to life or this phone is part of the unbricking project which will fix some other bricks. Problem is people use brick as a term that means a whole lot of things so its hard to answer. Usually a brick is forever dead, most people don't actually brick their phone though and usually have to be neglecting things to do it.
As for java... just read up on a bunch of trustworthy places for more info and understanding
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I'm afraid I just don't know about Win 7 64bit and how it will react but I'm sure there has to be a person or two around with experience concerning that OS. It may very well work fine. I CAN tell you that the "wire trick" (junoptobear?) will work fine on MikTouch because that's what I used. It's a stripped down GB stock ROM which is all you're really looking for. Why....I don't know.
As far as bricking goes, there's not a GREAT deal to worry about as long as you follow all instructions to a tee. You REALLY don't have to even have S-Off to flash ROMs as you read in that link. You just need to flash the kernel after you flash the ROM. It WILL limit a few things you can do but not ROM flashing.
When it comes to rescueing a bricked device though, there are only a very few instances that can be done as far as I know. But I'm no developer either. But if you can make it to your bootloader and/or recovery you not bricked. It may be a hardware of software issue but most of the time you can come back from those.
As far as the Java issue you spoke of goes, you may be able to get an answer to that one by PM'ing one of our moderators or admins.
I want to step it back to previous versions because they worked better...primarily the first version... Also, I am not seeing a guide that refers to doing it to the 1.63 patch. keyboard hasn't swyped right since the first ota update. Also my intent is to root an older version so I can remove crapware like dt sync, friend stream, kidzone, tmobile mall, tmobile tv, tmobile setup, telenav gps, and zinio reader.
X-Lander said:
I want to step it back to previous versions because they worked better...primarily the first version... Also, I am not seeing a guide that refers to doing it to the 1.63 patch. keyboard hasn't swyped right since the first ota update. Also my intent is to root an older version so I can remove crapware like dt sync, friend stream, kidzone, tmobile mall, tmobile tv, tmobile setup, telenav gps, and zinio reader.
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It's a simple flashing process but you HAVE to achieve S-Off first with the "Wire Trick". You can flash it forward without S-Off but not backwards. Does it work at all or is it just frozen to some point in the boot process? Can you access your SDcard? Can you boot to Hboot & recovery? These are a couple of things you will have to be able to do to go forward if I understand you correctly.