I've just found out that the temperature sensor of the Play must be acting funny. No matter what app I try to use to measure the CPU temperature, I'm getting senseless values. for example, setCPU shows in its widget that it's 0 °C which makes.no sense. Does anyone have the same issue?
The same here with setcpu and the battery says zero% left aswell?
Have you tried out minimal text of the market?
It's not really the CPU tmp but the battery tmp, it's just that the CPU is mounted close by. Seen alot of measuring in TMO (forum for Nokia N900) and it was never precise, just estimation.
Why you want to measure it?
Regards Dousan...
E: minimal text works it says 36 degrees on my play, if it's precise I don't know.
I want to measure it because I want an estimation of how far I can.push the overclocking without overheating the device. I may even try undervolting later, but then I need temperature estimations too.
I see, well good luck with that
Post your findings, that would be interesting
Ohh did you try minimal text?
Regards Dousan...
Minimalistic text doesn't allow me to access there. You happen to have bought it, haven't you?
Logseman said:
Minimalistic text doesn't allow me to access there. You happen to have bought it, haven't you?
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Try system Info widget, cpu temp meter works fine for me
The app doesn't seem to measure CPU temperature... the battery one is measured though. It'll have to do. Thanks!
Logseman said:
The app doesn't seem to measure CPU temperature... the battery one is measured though. It'll have to do. Thanks!
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sorry it just say temperature
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Minimalistic text doesn't allow me to access there. You happen to have bought it, haven't you?
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Must be new the donation app? I've had my free version since last year when i used it on my Htc DHD and backed it up with titanium and when i got the play i just transfered the tb folder to my play when i got rooted. That might be it that the dev removed some settings from the free version when the donation version hit the market?
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Any recommended apps that increase battery life?
So far I only have setCPU.
Locale Beta saves much 12hrs of the day.
pickles said:
Locale Beta saves much 12hrs of the day.
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What??
what does setcpu do? lower cpu clock?
Screebl, Advanced Task Manager, and SecCPU are an awesome battery-saving combination.
zok-star said:
what does setcpu do? lower cpu clock?
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Yes, but the best part is, you can set it to only lower the cpu clock when the phone is asleep (i.e., when the screen is off). Theoretically you could also overclock it when the screen is on, but not yet on the N1. On the G1/Dream, it was awesome--I overclocked when the screen was on, and underclocked when it was off. It saved battery AND made the phone faster at the same time. Here, it does nothing but save battery--a LOT of battery.
I don't have any problems with the battery.... it lasts me an entire day with pretty liberal use.
I just started using juice defender.. but it seems to slow the phone down at times... does anyone know of a similar app that is maybe more efficient
http://www.appbrain.com/app/juicedefender-battery-saver/com.latedroid.juicedefender
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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is it a free app?! OMG!
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Power manager and set cpu work for me. Power manager hasn't been updated in a while, but its still works and its pretty easy to use. Alternately, you can use Tasker, it has a high learning curve but once you get it, you'll get an entirely different level of performance from your phone.
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Yes, but the best part is, you can set it to only lower the cpu clock when the phone is asleep (i.e., when the screen is off). Theoretically you could also overclock it when the screen is on, but not yet on the N1. On the G1/Dream, it was awesome--I overclocked when the screen was on, and underclocked when it was off. It saved battery AND made the phone faster at the same time. Here, it does nothing but save battery--a LOT of battery.
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Actually you can overclock n1 when screen is on, it is set at 998 stock, but it can go higher 1113 is stable. But it depends on your kernel. I use 245/652 when screen is off, 384/1036 when on.
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chowlala said:
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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ROFL hilarious,
Due to juice defender slowing down my phone, i am going to try green power for a week then juice defender beta for a week and see how they work
juice defender beta seems to work the best
chowlala said:
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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Nice, it's more like a function to do than a app to utilize, fail.
I remember there was an app like this for the HTC Touch, when the phone is idle the app will reduce the cpu speed thus save the battery - I noticed a huge increase in battery life with the touch back then and thought it was an essential app. Is there anything like this for the HD2? I think we all can save some battery life for our HD2's
freakflow said:
I remember there was an app like this for the HTC Touch, when the phone is idle the app will reduce the cpu speed thus save the battery - I noticed a huge increase in battery life with the touch back then and thought it was an essential app. Is there anything like this for the HD2? I think we all can save some battery life for our HD2's
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Without an app to increase cpu speed and disable dynamic speed it already does this ...
LeoCpuSpeed3 will allow you to change the settings ...
first of all, the hd2 does run at 998Ghz at optimized speeds at heavy load, otherwise at idle its 700Ghz, unused. it already has this feature built in. increasing speeds arent safe especially where theres no coolant system or heatsink on these arm cpu. peeps can do whatever with their $500 dollar investment
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first of all, the hd2 does run at 998Ghz at optimized speeds at heavy load, otherwise at idle its 700Ghz, unused. it already has this feature built in. increasing speeds arent safe especially where theres no coolant system or heatsink on these arm cpu. peeps can do whatever with their $500 dollar investment
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True I would not recommend overclocking the phone, but many many people, including myself, use it locked at 998 with no problems, it gets warmer using wifi than it does at 998 ...
Also really I do not get much more battery life out of it set to dynamic ...
any app can reduce cpu below 700Mhz?
thanks.
Guys, NetRipper created an app that provides all of this. It covers all your LEO CPU manipulation needs - underclocking/overclocking even static & dynamic speed setting. Conveniently, its called Leo CPU Speed! You really have NO EXCUSE for not finding it - just type the damn words in a search box "leo cpu speed".
Please, don't act like morons!
Devs invest their precious time to create apps for you, give them intuitive names, write up tutorials, answer your questions .... it is not their job to run a search query for you - use the SEARCH box BEFORE you start hogging attention UNNECESSARILY; it'll take you less time finding it than posting up new questions!
It would be good if there was an app that reduces cpu speed to under 700mhz when the phone is locked and as soon as the phone is unlocked it takes it right back up to the full 998mhz.
Would save more battery than using autoscaling cause it would reduce it to less and you'd get full speed when the phone is unlocked since it would be at 998mhz. Something like that would be quite good providing it actually would save any battery
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It would be good if there was an app that reduces cpu speed to under 700mhz when the phone is locked and as soon as the phone is unlocked it takes it right back up to the full 998mhz.
Would save more battery than using autoscaling cause it would reduce it to less and you'd get full speed when the phone is unlocked since it would be at 998mhz. Something like that would be quite good providing it actually would save any battery
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i totally agree...
aLlamaWithARifle said:
It would be good if there was an app that reduces cpu speed to under 700mhz when the phone is locked and as soon as the phone is unlocked it takes it right back up to the full 998mhz.
Would save more battery than using autoscaling cause it would reduce it to less and you'd get full speed when the phone is unlocked since it would be at 998mhz. Something like that would be quite good providing it actually would save any battery
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on my Leo - when locked - the battery current is around 4mA,
if its typical, then not much is to be gained by underclocking this particular state
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on my Leo - when locked - the battery current is around 4mA,
if its typical, then not much is to be gained by underclocking this particular state
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yeah, mine is at 4mA as well..
isn't it like when in standby/locked the hd2 automatically underclocks to somewhat around 200mhz??
so, no need for an additional app.
hebbe said:
isn't it like when in standby/locked the hd2 automatically underclocks to somewhat around 200mhz??
so, no need for an additional app.
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You're actually right! Moreover, the instant you interact with the phone again the CPU will popup to 700+, and then if you push it a little, it'll go all the way to 998. All of this is OEM behaviour! So, these guys REALLY need to move on
I just installed "Overclock Widget", found here:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/org.freecoder.widgets.overclock
Which not only lets you overclock, but under-clock as well, and set ranges of frequencies for when the screen is both on and off. My phone is rooted and it appears to work fine, I just set it up so we'll see if it helps battery life. I set it so that when the screen is off the max frequency is 400,000 and when the screen is on the max is 800,000. The phone doesn't feel any slower than before -- to be honest, the speed is fine for me, I just need better battery life so we'll see if this helps.
Is anyone else using this app, or tried something like this to help with the battery life?
Another option is "SetCPU", available here on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
I don't know if there really is a need for this. I installed System Panel on my phone and it shows that the phone automatically underclocks based on load. My phone went down to 100Mhz while I was watching it.
I saw on AndroidForums installed a clock manager and was boasting that he set his phone to drop to 700Mhz. So, in reality, he just forced it to run faster than the phone would've on its own!
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I don't know if there really is a need for this. I installed System Panel on my phone and it shows that the phone automatically underclocks based on load. My phone went down to 100Mhz while I was watching it.
I saw on AndroidForums installed a clock manager and was boasting that he set his phone to drop to 700Mhz. So, in reality, he just forced it to run faster than the phone would've on its own!
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Interesting, I'll have to check that out. But, at the very least, with an app like this we should able to "throttle" the top speed to 800MHZ or so to save a little juice at the cost of some speed, correct? Or, is even something like that probably not worth it?
So is there no reason for SetCPU anymore? I just downloaded it, but I'll go ahead and uninstall it if people think its pointless on this phone
yeah the phone throttles on its own.
its still usefull if you can throttle voltage i guess
I thought about looking for something like this, but then when I went into system infoormation it showed that was I spending like 88% of my time with the cpu clocked to 100mhz, so there seems to be little point.
the screen is the real culprit in battery loss on this phone. black background swith red streaks are your friend.
Seeing as how we don't haves cpu temp monitor, can someone enlighten me on what is considered to hot? At what point should I get worried?
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Not sure, playing riptide for an hour at 1.6 highest i've seen the xoom get was 42C.
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Not sure, playing riptide for an hour at 1.6 highest i've seen the xoom get was 42C.
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So today..... I woke up and my Xoom was under a pillow. It was AMAZINGLY hot, checking the battery temp was over 150F and the screen wouldn't power on (overclocked to 1.6). EDIT: Check the battery temp after it powered on.....
I did a power + Vol up to restart and it turns out the battery had no charge, charged it up and its working fine now. Still cant believe it got that hot though..... Only time will tell how it works in the future but I may have just done a really sound heat test?!
Hopefully not too sad of a day in the life of my Xoom!
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Seeing as how we don't haves cpu temp monitor, can someone enlighten me on what is considered to hot? At what point should I get worried?
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My CPUMaster widget displays cpu temp. You can set a temperature profile which can reduce clock speed if the temp reaches a pre-determined level.
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My CPUMaster widget displays cpu temp. You can set a temperature profile which canreduce clock speep if the temp reaches a pre-determined level.
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Plus 1 to this awesome app.. Use it on my phone and tab..
Isnt there a recommended temp somewhere like spec sheet or is that only ambient.. Come to think i guess it is
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I have done alot of reading on this subject and could fill a whole page on explaining it, here is the short version. I am a power user and oc to 1.6, have my xoom in a enclosed case (no ventilation) and I have to work very hard to get my temp to 98. F. If you are seeing temps 98+ temps without heavy, heavy use then there may be a problem somewhere.
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I just got 17-18k on antutu. Stock rom,stock kernel. With elementalx kernel i can reach 27k but it is still bad for elemental x. What's wrong with my phone ? i flashed factory image again nothing changed also i just noticed when i underclock my cpu to 1.7 ghz i'm getting 28k on antutu.
Thermal throttle
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Thermal throttle
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Firstly i don't need to tell you why i'm trying to get higher score but i will because you're talking too agresively with me without reason.I don't care about score. If every nexus 5 would be the same and get just 15k score including mine i would accept my phone with 15k. But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine. It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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Hmm you're right. Do you know a good one ? I got 28.8k now with elemental x kernel with "Undervolt" feature. To be honest i don't know how much is normal for a nexus 5 device with this kernel.
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I don't care about score
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine.
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No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
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If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
In normal usage; yeah it is fast But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
You don't need a score to see how powerful your phone is. It will breeze through most tasks just fine. "A little lag" on a graphically intense game is to be expected sometimes.
Gaming -> High CPU load -> heat -> thermal throttle -> bit of lag
Laws of physics
In normal usage; yeah it is fast
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This is the only real 'benchmark' which is actually important in normal day to day usage.
But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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Yes there is a reason we all get different scores, the same reason we all get different battery life. There are many variables, not least temperature and thermal throttling.
We have different number of apps installed and running at any one time, things syncing, mods, scripts, ROMs, kernels, all different. No two CPUs and Nexus 5s are exactly identical either. So therefore you get different 'scores'. Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
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It doesn't make any sense
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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Okey, i trust you. Since i just bought phone and didn't test it much really i won't test it or try to improve it for now.
The way a phone works doesn't lend itself well to benchmarks. That's why manufacturers like Samsung have traditionally "cheated" on benchmarks by ensuring maximum clock speeds are used when they detect a bench marking application.
If you want to maximize your benchmark scores you simply need to disable thermal throttling (or increase its limit) and also use optimized Dalvik copied from another device.
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This. Thermal throttle is a way to keep your phone regulated into normal temperatures specified by the device manufacturer. However, it's generally safe to raise it a bit, mine is set to 85.
aw man, its too bad i wasnt around earlier