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anyway to work on/crack the iso

this popped up earlier for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M6MwNto3MQ
seems pretty neat but their are a few major things thatd i love to see fixed or somehowfixed.
first mouse support and internet working which would then allow apps hopefully.
and then since its a live cd whenever youd reboot the pc or restart all the info wouldnt be saved. any way for this aswell?
just would like this livedroid stuff to evolve like the andriod device has

seems kind of cool but........... this is what the emulator is for in the android SDK.

well i hope that this will eventually lead or get 1 step closer to dualbooting android, say windows/android id really like, especially with access to droid apps

have you seen what ubuntu is working on? a modified kernel to run android apps along side of regular linux. imagine a 10 inch netbook running ubuntu mobile that also runs the same apps as your phone. pretty slick. I think i remember finding it via hackaday.com but i'm sure some googleing will turn it up

I'd love android as a main distro, they need to make it easier to compile C/C++ apps though, currently wrapping them in java slows development in my opinion.
The wrapper for ubuntu looks good but i wouldn't really try it, that's just me though

well im just really trying to figure out some way to get android onto my laptop, either with flashdrive or dual booting. Id love to have windows as one and then android as the other if I had access to the internet and app store, because if im traveling some of the android apps would be very useful and they are alot easier to access and find then searching google with windows.
so any chance of this?

Here you go
http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/livedroid/downloads/40887/livedroid_alpha.iso/
Created by Japanese developers, a bootable iso image (Live CD) of android for your computer.
Here's a translation of their webpage:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.jp%2Fforum%2Fforum.php%3Fforum_id%3D19230&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=
You should be able to open the iso with any iso program such as PowerISO, or Magic ISO, etc, then repack the iso with the same program (I was able to do it in Power ISO) Shouldn't be as difficult as opening a *.img

thanks for the links but thats the same thing I posted in topic. is their anyway to put this onto a USB and have the USB bootable?

I would deff use this IF
-it had internet working
-could save the data (maybe stored onto a flash drive or turned into an actual dual boot along windows etc...)
-and with the internet working I could download apps from market place, If I could dl apps id actually use this sometimes because some of the apps would be very very useful in public with Inet access such as where, or the information apps and itd just be plain fun
so any chance of these coming?
anyone thinking of messing with this?

samrozzi said:
thanks for the links but thats the same thing I posted in topic. is their anyway to put this onto a USB and have the USB bootable?
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Have you tried googling it? Something along the lines of "how to create a bootable usb drive linux"
Here's one I found that seems to be the most user friendly, I can't verify if it works or not with this android build (although it should.)
http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/08/27/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-or-memory-card/

Why not just use a virtual machine, mounting the ISO?

It is not easy to modify android to support many wifi- or lan-devices..

v6tc said:
Why not just use a virtual machine, mounting the ISO?
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Because this is like when you're installing a fresh version of windows, or restoring.
You need the CD in the cd drive, then restart (as in shut down and start up)
But before it even starts loading windows, it loads the cd instead.
I think some computers can load from a USB drive, check your computer's BIOS

igloo77055 said:
Because this is like when you're installing a fresh version of windows, or restoring.
You need the CD in the cd drive, then restart (as in shut down and start up)
But before it even starts loading windows, it loads the cd instead.
I think some computers can load from a USB drive, check your computer's BIOS
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That doesn't really answer his question, does it?
I think you could easily mount the iso in e.g. VirtualBox/VMWare and start it virtualized. They seem to have included a standard linux kernel with enough modules

rb2k said:
That doesn't really answer his question, does it?
I think you could easily mount the iso in e.g. VirtualBox/VMWare and start it virtualized. They seem to have included a standard linux kernel with enough modules
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Sorry, I guess I really didn't know what he was talking about =X
But yeah you are right... hmm that should work, although I've never worked with
a VirtualBox

And in virtualbox.. You could use the "freezing"-function to freeze the state ;-) Only thing to fix is wlan/lan.
Wlan should be easier - the driver is named wlan.ko.
You need to compile a driver.

After playing around with it a bit, it's really only a novelty..
I'm running it on Virtual box.. and it seems rather pointless other then for "demonstrating android." The applications that come on it are, for the most part, inopperable and force close left and right. It doesn't seem like it has any practical use, because the available system memory is stuck at 14mb.
However, if this was developed into an installer, not just a live cd, then I could see it having a lot of potential. once you could utilize system resources it would be worth looking into developing drivers for.
For now it would be impractical and maybe impossible to establish a network connection.

[Q] Poll on what OS everyone is using

The reason why I'm asking is because I'm mulling over using nvflash as a future tool for updates, versus the standard update.zip. The biggest problem with nvflash is that it requires a PC and it's not OS-agnostic like update.zip.
I use Ubuntu x64, but I am assuming that most users are Windows, but that's just a guess on my part. My goal here is to get an idea if my guess is accurate.
Poll results are anonymous.

Are there advantages with nvflash?

Both Ubuntu and Windows XP here.
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I checked Linux because both my main desktop and laptop run Ubuntu, But I have a Mac both at work, and at home.
I have the Android SDK on both, plus tools like fastboot, etc.
Usually, what works on Mac for this sort of stuff works on Linux, too, and vise-versa, so you cover 2 platforms with no additional effort.
So something that is Windows only is pretty much useless to me unless I can get it to work under Wine, but I usually do not even bother trying that.

nvflash is definitely more powerful, enough so that both the Advent Vega folks and Malata themselves seem to use it. But deploying it to the masses might be problematic.

It seems like for the "moderately-advanced user" (not hacker) that can follow simple directions like flashing ClockWork and then subsequent update.zip files is the better way to go. Having to install SDKs, installing special drivers, command line stuff will reduce the number of people using these mods. And these mods should really be used by everyone once they are more complete and stable!
I use Ubuntu 32bit, Ubuntu 64-bit, Windows 7 32-bit, Windows 7 64-bit, and Windows XP Home 32-bit at my house.

NVFLASH For Advanced Users
flipper9 said:
It seems like for the "moderately-advanced user" (not hacker) that can follow simple directions like flashing ClockWork and then subsequent update.zip files is the better way to go.
I agree that NVFLASH is for advanced users. It took me a while to master it in order to get out of a boot loop. Many different steps and line commands will be a challenge for most.
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I just added a nvflash restore image for TnT Lite + the performance pack (will be my baseline for my own device, moving forward). Added all the usual warnings, of course.
As expected, the majority of users are Windows - that's what I expected. Thanks to everyone for adding their vote!

flipper9 said:
It seems like for the "moderately-advanced user" (not hacker) that can follow simple directions like flashing ClockWork and then subsequent update.zip files is the better way to go. Having to install SDKs, installing special drivers, command line stuff will reduce the number of people using these mods. And these mods should really be used by everyone once they are more complete and stable!
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Agree completely. Stick with update.zip files.

jacindc said:
Agree completely. Stick with update.zip files.
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Agreed... I think it is too complex for most users.

roebeet said:
nvflash is definitely more powerful, enough so that both the Advent Vega folks and Malata themselves seem to use it. But deploying it to the masses might be problematic.
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I know nothing about it but what I read, but I see the value in it in case of a "semi-bricked" device where you can only get into apx(?).
I would like to learn about it. If other forums are using it, how about an option to use it if you like. Roebeet, would you be willing to put a tutorial together or point us nubs on nvflash where we can find it?

A few questions from a new Xoom owner.

Whats solutions are there for HDMI use?.
Are there any apps for true photo editing such as Paintshop pro or photoshop?.
My website uses flash but doesn't work properly on the tab.
http://www.cmorephotos.co.uk
I've tried the stock & Dolphin HD browsers.
I have a micro SD card installed but device won't let me delete from it says it's read only.
I use Plume twitter client but text doesn't seem sharp, I assume this is as its scaled and not tablet designed.
One of the main reasons I bought the device was for putting my large collection of photos on it.
I would be interested in any tips on making the experience better, one thing I would really like to be able to do is have the ability to rename the image or at least put a comment on it. I have scanned alot of old photos and would like to have this ability if a family member can tell me about the image.
Thanks for your time.

for the HDMI question, you can use any HDMI Micro (Type D) to HDMI (Type A)

There are no true apps that will give you the same abilities as Photoshop on a PC/MAC, but you can download Photoshop Express from the market.
I viewed your site using both the stock browser and Opera Mobile and it renders fine in Opera.
As for being unable to delete files from the SD card I believe that is a problem with the stock ROM, though could be wrong because as soon as I got my Xoom I rooted and put on a custom ROM, so have little experience of the stock ROM. Not sure if it has been fixed in the 3.2 update. I am using a custom ROM and can delete files on the SD card.
The latest version of Plume is tablet designed and the text is sharp on my Xoom.
As for managing your photos, perhaps an app like Media Organizer may be some way towards what you are looking for.

Still no Photoshop but you can use aviary. www.aviary.com/online/image-editor

merlinsrealm said:
for the HDMI question, you can use any HDMI Micro (Type D) to HDMI (Type A)
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Thanks for that. Will get a cable.
I looked at the docks too and would I be right in saying the the speaker dock is the only one that has HDMI out, seems pricey.

double1 said:
Still no Photoshop but you can use aviary. www.aviary.com/online/image-editor
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Not really what Im after, Want to edit on the device.

cmorephotos said:
Not really what Im after, Want to edit on the device.
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The Adobe photoshop tool suite is coming out for android (they said in November) and they will cost $9.99 per app. Hold on...this will only be getting better with Ice Cream Sandwich. The specs look great...I think a few of the cludgy Honeycomb bits will be resolved, from what I've been reading. It's going to be a great time to have a Xoom.

neblap said:
There are no true apps that will give you the same abilities as Photoshop on a PC/MAC, but you can download Photoshop Express from the market.
I viewed your site using both the stock browser and Opera Mobile and it renders fine in Opera.
As for being unable to delete files from the SD card I believe that is a problem with the stock ROM, though could be wrong because as soon as I got my Xoom I rooted and put on a custom ROM, so have little experience of the stock ROM. Not sure if it has been fixed in the 3.2 update. I am using a custom ROM and can delete files on the SD card.
The latest version of Plume is tablet designed and the text is sharp on my Xoom.
As for managing your photos, perhaps an app like Media Organizer may be some way towards what you are looking for.
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Photo shop Express only allows edit of images taken on device.
When viewing my site the gallery should come out of the bar and list sub catagories, I can't get it to do this in any of the 3 browsers
Found out about SD card issue shortly after posting.
Oddly though I can delete images from within the gallery app. - since found out this too be untrue its just temporary until reboot then they reappear

cmorephotos said:
Photo shop Express only allows edit of images taken on device.
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Go into settings and untick "Show camera photos only in Phone view". It will then show any photo's/pictures in any other folder that does not have the .nomedia file

sadly when you change the setting it shows all images rather than folders.
Thanks anyway.

[XOOM 2] Xoom 2 Software Frustration

Connected the Xoom 2, to a windows 7 machine.
Insists on letting installing 'Motocast' which I let it...what a complete pile of shi*.
I want to 'sync' a 700MB .avi video, over usb cable, to the device...estimated time? 30 minutes!!! I swear this complete toss of software is insisting to re-encode the entire file to some bullsh*t format of their choice. Is there an option to turn this off and transfer it natively?
Secondly, thankfully, it also installs native 'portable' device drivers, allowing Windows 7 file explorer to browse the device. Great, so I copy the same .avi file and paste it to the device...'Do you want to copy xyz.avi? Your device might not be able to play this file' I am prompted...'yes' I click. Just as it finishes copying (after about 4 minutes...much better) it bombs out, notifying me that because the device cannot play this file it is cancelling the transfer...wtf?!?!
The only interim solution i've found is renaming the extension '.avi' to something like '.proprietrysoftwarecansuckmyballs', copying it, then renaming it back to '.avi' once transfer has completed solves this.
So can anyone offer any 'clean' solutions to my file transfer woes? If theres no improvement, this device will be getting returned next week, which is a shame as the tablet is a great bit of kit, its just a shame the software blows.

Look for "Wi-Fi File Explorer" in the market.

This looks like it only transfers over wifi?
I need to transfer over usb cable.

Had this problem myself, looks like it doesn't come with the drivers. After a bit of searching, I found that the standard driver package works:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...al_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.0.53_Driver_5.2.0.exe
Installed that, unplug the USB cable and put it back in - should work fine!

tr00st said:
Had this problem myself, looks like it doesn't come with the drivers. After a bit of searching, I found that the standard driver package works:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...al_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.0.53_Driver_5.2.0.exe
Installed that, unplug the USB cable and put it back in - should work fine!
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Hey thanks man, that worked a treat.
Just for clarification, does you still prompt you that the device may not support playback of the file, but then successfully transfer it (whereby it would previously error at the last second)?

No idea - haven't had that particular part of the issue myself - the main thing I had was the slowness...

I am a linux user ... i will only have the option to upload files via wifi network ?

I have a Xoom 2 ME and the only way to copy a large movie file to the device was adb.
adb push foo.txt /sdcard/foo.txt
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That's the only usb-way i come up with. I'am on snow leopard and Google's Android File Copy tool does not work.

elster said:
I have a Xoom 2 ME and the only way to copy a large movie file to the device was adb.
That's the only usb-way i come up with. I'am on snow leopard and Google's Android File Copy tool does not work.
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I guess the same way will work to linux too . Xoom2 has only one partition on the disk ? that the reason not to be able to mount it as a normal usb ? If you root the device is the anyway to great a small 2 Gb for ex partition to use it for easy transfer ?
Off topic about xoom 2 ME . How good the screen and and the battery life are ?

Useless tablet ?
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...

OldBeurt said:
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...
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You probably hit it on the head about the Netflix certification. I would think about returning it, man.

a solution ?
Thanks to a French forum (frandroid, in the Xoom 2 topic... sorry I can't send links here), I tested a solution to the transfer problem: It is possible to use (on the computer) a server to share the files such as a samba server.
It works fine. But it's not as easy to browse, select, copy and paste file with explorers on the tablet than it is on computers (several windows, keyboard shortcuts such as Ctrl-c/v, and so on).
But it's now possible to exchange files with the Xoom 2ME without going through a cloud or using Windows/motoCast.

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Off topic about xoom 2 ME . How good the screen and and the battery life are ?
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Sorry for answering so late.
The screen is quite good.
The battery life is terrible compared to my ipad2. Charging needs a lot of time and is very slow. I guess it's because of mini usb only.
Currently i'am using the device as a Kindle Fire replacement, because off the lightweight (KF is heavier and bulky). The books i usually read have more weight than the device itself.
I like it for that.
But i may not be a good adviser because my device is a prototype. It is not smooth and the speakers are terrible.
I think 8,2" is the perfect size for me. The weight is so much better than any other tablet i had.

OldBeurt said:
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...
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Try using a terminal on the Xoom 2 and ping the computer you're trying to connect to, while pinging your Xoom 2 from that computer at the same time. It's like you have to force them to see each other before they can start connecting in future.

I used fileexpert to see and download files with smb shared folder on Ubuntu Linux without a problem.
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Can a tablet replace my computer?

Hello,
How are you?
So today I started to wonder...
I currently have an iMac computer.
I bought it to edit pictures when I was into photography.
But I since lost interest in photography and slowly sold all my camera gear.
Currently I only use the web browser and iTunes.
I don't need to work on my computer at home. I don't produce documents nor do anything creative. For work I have my office computer.
I don't use applications, as I use Google services through the web browser.
So, I was thinking about selling the computer, buy a nice tablet like the Asus tf700 and keep some money.
My only question is if the tablet is any good to handle my files on the external hard drive, mainly music MP3 libraries and pictures.
Can an app like ES file explorer allow me to create folders, rename files, move them around like finder on a Mac or windows explorer?
Can a tablet read and write files to my USB external HDD?
What do you think of this idea?
Cheers
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Hi,
You can get an OTG cable and with it you can connect USB divices to your tablet.

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t700 good for office job...

for me nope computer too important

gdourado said:
Hello,
How are you?
So today I started to wonder...
I currently have an iMac computer.
I bought it to edit pictures when I was into photography.
But I since lost interest in photography and slowly sold all my camera gear.
Currently I only use the web browser and iTunes.
I don't need to work on my computer at home. I don't produce documents nor do anything creative. For work I have my office computer.
I don't use applications, as I use Google services through the web browser.
So, I was thinking about selling the computer, buy a nice tablet like the Asus tf700 and keep some money.
My only question is if the tablet is any good to handle my files on the external hard drive, mainly music MP3 libraries and pictures.
Can an app like ES file explorer allow me to create folders, rename files, move them around like finder on a Mac or windows explorer?
Can a tablet read and write files to my USB external HDD?
What do you think of this idea?
Cheers
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Based on your detailed description, a tablet sounds like it will be sufficient for you. But i warn you, it is a significant jump. My 6yr old Dell laptop started acting wonky, and I replaced it with the Asus TF300 in May. It wasn't until September where I truly noticed the productivity advantages.
Also, Asus tablets come with MyCloud, which has Splashtop HD installed by default. Use it. It...is...awesome...and very useful. You still get the "computer" experience from it. Keep that in mind.

for your current demands a the most tablets should be enough but if its potentionaly that your demands could change in the newr furture, you should maybe consider one of the coming W8 Tablets

One thing that I did forget to mention. There are a selected few things that computers do MUCH better than tablets, and probably will never change. Try taking a PDF file with over 200 pages, and search for a word (doesn't matter what word you choose). Your computer is capable of finding all of the instances much faster than your tablet would. Windows and Macs are better at handling numerous files simultaneously than Android. There are some things that I would still turn to the computer for.
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One thing that I did forget to mention. There are a selected few things that computers do MUCH better than tablets, and probably will never change. Try taking a PDF file with over 200 pages, and search for a word (doesn't matter what word you choose). Your computer is capable of finding all of the instances much faster than your tablet would. Windows and Macs are better at handling numerous files simultaneously than Android. There are some things that I would still turn to the computer for.
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that is exactly what i was talking about this could be a good reason for W8 Tablets or the now gratly hyped "Tabbooks"

It really depends on what are u doing on ur pc if you only browse internet, listen to music and play some games, of course good tablet can replace it. But if u use ur pc for work then it could be problem for you imo
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