Comparison of two H/W video players - Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps

Can anybody tell me which video player they prefer between Dice Player and MX Player? I've already purchased Dice Player and want to find out if there are any discerning differences between the two before I decide to pay for MX Video. If you've used both and prefer one over the other please let me know why you made the choice you did.
Thanks.
Teleported from my Asus Transformer using Tapatalk

I've been using MX player with no issues with anything I throw at it, so it word for me, I haven't tried dice player though...
are you having any issues with dice that you are thinking MX player might not have?
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express

I've had a number of files that will play video but not audio with MX Player....same files work fine and great in Diceplayer.
MX might say it has compatibility, but apparently not as good as diceplayer does.
But as usual, YMMV. Just what I've seen.

darkhawkff said:
I've had a number of files that will play video but not audio with MX Player....same files work fine and great in Diceplayer.
MX might say it has compatibility, but apparently not as good as diceplayer does.
But as usual, YMMV. Just what I've seen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1.. mainly MKVs.
DICE Player all the way for me.

Dice Player is the best for me.

Dice works best for me as well

That's exactly the answers I was looking for. Now I wont need to buy MX since I have Dice and it works great. I just wanted to make sure that MX didn't have something new to offer. Thanks guys.

Dice puts out quite a few updates, more than I've seen for MX. I'm satisfied with my dice purchase.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA Premium App

The real problem I've noticed is that MX Player seems to have smoother playback, but I don't know if that's because it doesn't playback the audio as well, or if it's because it (supposedly) uses both cores. My personal opinion is that it's mainly because it doesn't playback audio as well.
Either way, I still prefer Diceplayer over MX Player.

Dice player works on HC3.2?
mine always FC on opening.

AcIdC0R3 said:
That's exactly the answers I was looking for. Now I wont need to buy MX since I have Dice and it works great. I just wanted to make sure that MX didn't have something new to offer. Thanks guys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
buy MX Player? I thought MX was free from the gecko.
@bradputt: yes. try uninstalling it and reinstalling.

zephiK said:
buy MX Player? I thought MX was free from the gecko.
@bradputt: yes. try uninstalling it and reinstalling.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's like $5 on the market but no worries, I like Dice Player anyways so I won't need to buy MX Player now. I finally tried an add-supported copy and I came to realize that it's no better than Dice player. All is well, thanks guys.

I've got a free MX player.. Not sure how. But anyways, I went into the options, checked "always use software decoding (Fast mode) and it works flawlessly. I was having alot of issues with the other players and mkv files quitting sound all the itme.
whats the difference between hardware and software decoding? Does it matteR?

silenceforus said:
I've got a free MX player.. Not sure how. But anyways, I went into the options, checked "always use software decoding (Fast mode) and it works flawlessly. I was having alot of issues with the other players and mkv files quitting sound all the itme.
whats the difference between hardware and software decoding? Does it matteR?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Although S/W playback will play more media formats than H/W will, H/W uses the Tegra dual core technology to playback a higher framework video than S/W playback can. I've played both S/W and H/W formats and Honeycomb tablets can utilize and playback 720p MKV files with Full H/W acceleration while playing S/W formats cannot. Plus H/W acceleration uses less battery power for playback than S/W playback
If your looking for a guide to encode your videos in H/W format for large video sizes you can check THIS thread here.
Since you already have MX Player you should be able to utilize the same principles as you would if you used Dice Player. So you should be good to go.
If anybody feels as if I overlooked something here please feel free to jump in.
Thanks...

bradputt said:
Dice player works on HC3.2?
mine always FC on opening.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Update it. The Dev has updated it something like 5 or 6 times since 3.2 was released. I don't get many force closes anymore, only when I'm trying to play a high bit rate file and want to jump around alot. Has issues, but not as many as it used to, thats for sure.

AcIdC0R3 said:
It's like $5 on the market but no worries, I like Dice Player anyways so I won't need to buy MX Player now. I finally tried an add-supported copy and I came to realize that it's no better than Dice player. All is well, thanks guys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.pro
its the Ad-Free version.
@AcIdC0R3: Honestly, I find encoding to be ridiculous. You shouldn't need to do extra work just to get it working on a Dual-core device when single-core devices such as Hummingbird can process it just fine. DICE Player... no encoding needed.

zephiK said:
Oh, https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.pro
its the Ad-Free version.
@AcIdC0R3: Honestly, I find encoding to be ridiculous. You shouldn't need to do extra work just to get it working on a Dual-core device when single-core devices such as Hummingbird can process it just fine. DICE Player... no encoding needed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just curious, but what file type do you use and do you not use H/W encoding? Do you see no discernible difference between S/W and H/W playback?
The only work I do is convert a VOB file to an .m4v file and then transfer to my removable media. No extra work is needed. I let Dice player do all the hard work.
Thanks...

bradputt said:
Dice player works on HC3.2?
mine always FC on opening.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you use Diceplayer 1.5.3 (from Market militia), It never works.
Download diceplayer from Android market.

Diceplayer is the only HW video player.
MX Player has very optimized ffmpeg codec.
But MX is not H/W video player, it is well optimized S/W video player.
MX use multi-threads , VFP3 , ARMv7 optimized codec but it is HW optimized SW codec.
Diceplayer use Tegra2's HW Video decoder engine. so Diceplayer has problems from Tegra2 HW Video decoder ( NO Weighted Predictions )
Galaxy S2 shows what is difference of HW optimized SW codec and HW video codec.
In Galaxy S2, Diceplayer can play 1080p/i with Full HW Accelerations, but no one that use SW codec(even NEON version) can handle 1080p/i.

Related

[Q] Best Media Player

What do people use to play movie files?
I use moboplayer and the default video player. I like how the default clears the screen whereas moboplayer leaves the back/home/recent apps and menue button.
is there any way to remove these whilst playing video files?
Dice Player. It has played everything I've thrown at it.
I came across mx video player after reading another topic on xda and i love it. It plays just about anything i throw at it and uses H/W accelleration and has a screen swipe for fast forward and rewind and options on screen setup and layout. Best of all its free !
Jason.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
+1 Dice Player
dice player is good. i cant say it plays *everything* i've thrown at it though. most 720p scene encodes i've tried seem to struggle.
Unfortunately, I there is no one player solution for HC yet. Dice player and MX Player are among the good ones but neither play "everything".
str1nger said:
What do people use to play movie files?
I use moboplayer and the default video player. I like how the default clears the screen whereas moboplayer leaves the back/home/recent apps and menue button.
is there any way to remove these whilst playing video files?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been looking for the same thing. I want the menu bar to clear. Dice player does it, but I've had better file playback with moboplayer. Dice player's UI isn't as nice as others but they do update frequently. I'm staying with mobo for now, maybe if some people bug them about clearing the screen on tablets, they will add it.
to save your battery, use diceplayer.
SW decoder based player like mobo/mx/vplayer need more battery than diceplayer.
SW video decoder need more CPU power & battery.
have a Question, have Tried standard Android player, MX player, Rock Player and Dice player. there is never no sound with my 720P MKV's (even though there should be) and i have a 720P MP4 that is Jerky as F***.
Also, with MX player and Diceplayer, whenever using HW rendering the video is fine but has no Sound, When SW Rendering is used its jerky With sound.. Lame !
Greenie-UK said:
have a Question, have Tried standard Android player, MX player, Rock Player and Dice player. there is never no sound with my 720P MKV's (even though there should be) and i have a 720P MP4 that is Jerky as F***.
Also, with MX player and Diceplayer, whenever using HW rendering the video is fine but has no Sound, When SW Rendering is used its jerky With sound.. Lame !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you post your MP4 file's MediaInfo?
(Container / Codec info )
Daroon player... plays DVD's with Menu!
+1 DicePlayer
Plays most things I throw at it (more than the others I've tried)
Handles mutli-audio & multi-subtitles (even ass/aas MKV ones)
Streaming from ES File Explorer.
Damn good dev feedback
Happy.
I'm pretty sure mono has hardware decoding. It gets choppy for me when I use its software decoding.
juami said:
to save your battery, use diceplayer.
SW decoder based player like mobo/mx/vplayer need more battery than diceplayer.
SW video decoder need more CPU power & battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my Sensation using XDA Premium App
Buzz player, V player, QQ Player.
With those 3 have played everything.
Dice player plays most files using hardware acceleration.
Worth every penny !!
+1 Dice player. It's very simple but for me is the best player for my transformer
casanovafrankenstein said:
I'm pretty sure mono has hardware decoding. It gets choppy for me when I use its software decoding.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Diceplayer can play any combinations of audio codec(aac/dts/ac3/flac) and containers(avi,mkv,mp4,mov....) with HW video acceleration.
But other players(QQ,Mobo,vPlayer....) can play supported format/audio codec by system with HW acceleration.
All of non supported combinations ( like a DTS+MKV, MOV,... ) are played by SW codec.
str1nger said:
moboplayer leaves the back/home/recent apps and menue button.
is there any way to remove these whilst playing video files?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could use Hide Bar for this.
Site: http://ppareit.github.com/HideBar/
Code: https://github.com/ppareit/HideBar
I used that until revolver incorporated a similar feature.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA Premium App
New MX Video Player 1.3 is really nice. The UI has been redone quite a bit. The task bar now goes into the dim mode during playback (I think that's new). Playback is great for XViD... haven't tried any x264+AC3/DTS, but it should be pretty good since it is able to HW decode the video and SW decode the audio.

[Q] Best video player for Transformer

Hi,
I've been using trial version of Dice Player and I'm almost ready to purchase the full version. However, I just noticed 3 other players that might worth considering:
- MX Player
- PowerDVD Mobile
- VLC (free)
- Seaman Player
I'd like to take comments from people who are using these. Which one should I go for ?
I personally use Dice Player. Plays everything smoothly.
MX Player: good alternative for free, but doesn't play some 720p MKVs with crisp frames.
VLC: Very early stage, not daily-use.
Rest... I haven't tried them.
mrmrmrmr said:
Hi,
I've been using trial version of Dice Player and I'm almost ready to purchase the full version. However, I just noticed 3 other players that might worth considering:
- MX Player
- PowerDVD Mobile
- VLC (free)
- Seaman Player
I'd like to take comments from people who are using these. Which one should I go for ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't make up my mind what I like best, Dice Player or MX Video Player so I paid for both apps. The developers of each seem to be going head to head on what they can and cannot do. Both do HW playback which is what I like most about them. You wont be disappointed with Dice Player the least bit. They both seem to be the two best video players to date for Android.
thanks for your comments.
is there any experience with PowerDVD ?
that's a nice app on Windows. So why not the Android version...
Dice
Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...
mrmrmrmr said:
thanks for your comments.
is there any experience with PowerDVD ?
that's a nice app on Windows. So why not the Android version...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well for one thing, PowerDVD Mobile is $20 and Dice Player and MX player are just over $5 and can play just about every video file type. So you weigh the odds. With Tegra 2 video is barely starting to break free of it's constraints so I wouldn't want to pay out the nose for a video player that might or might not play back my videos. IDK, that's just how I feel about it.
If you do wind up getting PowerDVD let us know how well it plays HW and SW video playback with multiple file types. I was reading and I didn't find if it will play .mkv files or not.
Personally, I would normally talk up Diceplayer, but after the last couple of updates, we've taken about 5 steps backwards. Whatever happened, it's gotten worse than it was before. I'm not sure what that's due to, but 720P videos no longer play as smoothly as they once did. Videos that used to play fine are now choppy and have bad audio. And these are the same videos, the only change is what version the player is running. I'd actually go back a few versions if I had made a backup of some kind.
Either way, I don't generally recommend Diceplayer anymore. I used to talk it up and down because it WAS a very good player, but things have certainly changed alot apparently.
darkhawkff said:
Personally, I would normally talk up Diceplayer, but after the last couple of updates, we've taken about 5 steps backwards. Whatever happened, it's gotten worse than it was before. I'm not sure what that's due to, but 720P videos no longer play as smoothly as they once did. Videos that used to play fine are now choppy and have bad audio. And these are the same videos, the only change is what version the player is running. I'd actually go back a few versions if I had made a backup of some kind.
Either way, I don't generally recommend Diceplayer anymore. I used to talk it up and down because it WAS a very good player, but things have certainly changed alot apparently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep very true. I have had the exact same findings. I've been talking to the developer and just sent him a 720p mkv today that used to work and now doesn't. He's testing it on his transformer to see if he can find the issue.
Power DVD is too expensive. Mobo is so far the best
Hopefully DICE player can fix it's recent bugs (he has been issuing updates like crazy anyway).
MX has mich better gui, but dice player still has much better playback. There is noticeable difference in frame drops between the two (dice being much, much better, even though both use hardware decoding).
i use vplayer and it does all videos and even allows streaming
Dice Player with tegra addon . Nothing to me is smoother.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
Moboplayer
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
For me, dice player has the smoothest playback, too.
Hi,
I've tried PowerDVD mobile.
It has a very elegant GUI and nice features.
It serves music and photos in addition to videos and it also includes a DLNA player.
However, videos are not as smooth as MX Player or Dice Player.
Probably it does not support as much codecs.
bs player
i just found BS player for android its in beta right now but it works great
I wish I could get DICE player to work. Everytime I open it, it says "Sorry, this video cannot be played." I haven't even picked a video yet!
Having endless issues trying to play 720p mkv videos I have dice player, mobo player, and mx video player. When the video is smooth i get no sound and when sound works the video gets choppy during action/ fast scenes... any advice?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
I can't seem to get HW decoding to work with MX player. Is anyone using any custom kernels .. overclocking?
MX Video for me
i started with Mobo since the stock player only reads internal files. but i wanted full screen with no icons on the bottom. i tried dice trial and liked it so i bought the full version than i saw mx video and bought it too. i like both, but dice player on lets me choose (ie: /Removable/MicroSD don't even try microsd).
whereas mx video lets me add several locations that i can browse too and i get full screen. i haven't had any problems with any video incls so far.
i just wish i could connect a protable dvd player.
i also like the easy way it handles subtitles and .vob

720p MKV playback

Ok, I've been struggling with this and doing all sorts of research, but I can't seem to piece together a definitive answer. This is what I know (or think I know anyhow)
1) H264 will play just fine from more or less any video player as long as you have the decode mode set right. this seems to be why so many people swear to their particular player (and I've tried so many, moboplayer, dice, etc etc.)
2) H364 is just pure crap because Tegra2 just can't handle it. Something with proprietary codecs or some such.
Now, experimenting with different HD files over the time I've owned my TF, some play and some don't. I've heard others claim otherwise. If anybody can guarantee they can play ANY , really ANY HD mkv file (H364 without re-encoding included) I'd like to know what ROM/app you're using (and I'm sure a lot of others would too). I'm sick of having to pick out/convert my movies all the time.
I'd really like to put this thing to rest.
I hear ya I dont want to re-encode my library either but becuase I cant stand not knowing I have been doing some testing to see what the problem is with not being able to play all files. I have discovered that that the Transformer does not like 5.1 channel AAC audio. I can encode any video to MP4 and it plays great when I set the audio to stereo but when I try with 5.1 AAC MP4 files it no worky. 5.1 AC3 seems to be ok. I too have tried many players from the market and get different results with each one using the 5.1 setting (such as stuttering or lagging or I think it was BS player would only play the rear channel audio) but setting my encoding output to stereo they all play fine. I was on the Google Android Developers site and it stated stereo only was supported for honeycomb so maybe the ICS upgrade will fix this issue? In the meantime I plan on continuing testing different bit rates and audio settings to try and get to the bottom of this. Sorry in advance if this did not help you.
MX player- plays anything i throw at it. make sure you get the Arm7 codec pack too.
bob dylan said:
MX player- plays anything i throw at it. make sure you get the Arm7 codec pack too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like very much the MX player and it is true it plays mkr videos fine but I do not have sound... I have the ARMv7 codec pack (only this one) do you get sound?
Instead, to play and hear mkv I use DicePlayer Ad. with Dice player plugin for tegra2.
(I am unrooted)
Use software for audio (but hw for video)
Christian Troy said:
Use software for audio (but hw for video)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem with this is that most players out there only let you use one decoding mode for both video AND audio. what player lets you do what you're saying?
wehweh said:
The problem with this is that most players out there only let you use one decoding mode for both video AND audio. what player lets you do what you're saying?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mx video with the codec pack as said previously.
I'll be sure to try it once I get home.
MX player will play the movies just fine but the issue is with the audio. The Transformer has a problem playing audio encoded with 5.1 & 6.1.
Christian Troy said:
Use software for audio (but hw for video)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It worked great! thanks a lot!!

Any video players with DTS support? Dice no longer working

Pretty damn annoying - DICE can no longer play most of my videos for the last couple months. Ever since I upgraded to ICS (tried 4 different roms, no change). It used to play MKV's with hardware accelleration and decode the audio in software. No problem when you're overclocked to 1.7
Installed the new nvidia codecs, still no change. Any ideas?
You might want to try the new version of dice player there are 2 apps one is labeled (old) now so maybe try the new one and download the tegra 2 plugin
mrevankyle said:
You might want to try the new version of dice player there are 2 apps one is labeled (old) now so maybe try the new one and download the tegra 2 plugin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately, already tried that. Also tried MX Player, MX Player Pro and Rockplayer.
f3tf said:
Unfortunately, already tried that. Also tried MX Player, MX Player Pro and Rockplayer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
which firmware are you running?
MX Player removed DTS playback a couple of months ago due to licensing issues.
Maybe if you found a old release of the app you can play your videos again
refer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769799
Thanks for the work around. It works but a bit buggy. Each time you want to switch movies you have to uncheck and recheck the external codec. Also movies do not forward in dice player properly.
BSplayer still decodes DTS audio.
BlackAndGreyCat said:
BSplayer still decodes DTS audio.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't get the same smooth frame rates as I can with Dice Player, still the best one in my opinion (for 1080p mkvs)
You can try...
TorontoR said:
Thanks for the work around. It works but a bit buggy. Each time you want to switch movies you have to uncheck and recheck the external codec. Also movies do not forward in dice player properly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can try with the VLC beta on the Playstore. As far as I remember, it has DTS support and it's smooth (at least on my Galaxy S3).
I'm having trouble with the libffmpeg.so plug in.
The DTS files would cause the player to kick back out when libffmpeg.so plugin was enabled. Without it enabled, it'd just say that the video file can't be played.
I had to download Diceplayer 2.0.6 with the Tegra Plug-in in order to get the DTS movies to work.
Is anyone able to get libffmpeg.so working on their Transformer TF101 ?
I'm back on my 2 year old Galaxy S for a few months while I wait on a Galaxy Note II. I wanted to point out that while this thread offers a solution, I was still not able to find the best solution for a slower phone.
Dice Player (latest). Obviously doesn't work.
Dice Player with external plugin, is forced to do software decoding. Very choppy on a Galaxy S.
(stock) Video Player. Sound doesn't work.
BS Player (software decode), works, but very slow framerate.
BS Player (hardware decode), buggy. Screen blanks out every second or so. Too annoying to watch a video.
VLC Player (software) too choppy
VLC Player (hardware) video and sound is good (won't load subtitles)
I felt like Mario looking for Princess Toadstool.
So I've been on this quest. Finally found a working solution. Dice Player 1.8.2. Old version. Works perfectly without any tweaks.
_______________________________________________________________________________________
Check out my huge collection of 64GB Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Videos (Demos, Accessory Reviews)
Lucidmike said:
I'm back on my 2 year old Galaxy S for a few months while I wait on a Galaxy Note II. I wanted to point out that while this thread offers a solution, I was still not able to find the best solution for a slower phone.
Dice Player (latest). Obviously doesn't work.
Dice Player with external plugin, is forced to do software decoding. Very choppy on a Galaxy S.
(stock) Video Player. Sound doesn't work.
BS Player (software decode), works, but very slow framerate.
BS Player (hardware decode), buggy. Screen blanks out every second or so. Too annoying to watch a video.
VLC Player (software) too choppy
VLC Player (hardware) video and sound is good (won't load subtitles)
I felt like Mario looking for Princess Toadstool.
So I've been on this quest. Finally found a working solution. Dice Player 1.8.2. Old version. Works perfectly without any tweaks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
vplayer: sound and sub, slow framerate
rockplayer lite: no sound
mVideoplayer: no sound
Moboplayer: no sound
LittlePlayer free: error
DICE player 2.0.10: no sound
Dice Player 1.8.2: "Sorry, this video cannot be played" ... doesn't work.

Playing MKV DTS Videos?

What's the best option for playing MKV DTS movies on the TF300? All the new players won't do DTS audio, but I hear that older versions of some software, like Dice will. But, I'm not sure that the older versions will support/use the Tegra 3.
Thanks in advance.
Found solution, but shuttering: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34649108&postcount=16
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html
Says it does multi-core decoding. I'd like know how well it plays your mkv files.
MX Player with h/w+ decoding plays mine just fine. I use DSP Manager for all my Audio.
Thx, but VLC doesn't play MKV DTS videos.
babymatteo said:
MX Player with h/w+ decoding plays mine just fine. I use DSP Manager for all my Audio.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you have no shuttering issues even with 1080p KMV DTS videos?
The shuttering is probably network related as I'm streaming it over WiFi, especially large files.
There's also XBMC for Android, I haven't tried it yet, but going to now: http://xbmc.org/download/
XBMC for Android works but isn't great at playing MKV files, really slow, shuttering.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
RodneyBR said:
XBMC for Android works but isn't great at playing MKV files, really slow, shuttering.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you found a reliable option mate? I tried MX, Dice, VLC and all have problems with DTS. There is an option to use external filters in MX, but its unreliable. I tried several files, with bitrates from 2-3k to 20+k. MX with HW+ encoding plays smoothly, but no sound.
I think I tried SopCast player and it might have played DTS, don't really remember, maybe you can give it a try.
I'm using Galaxy Nexus. If you've found a solution, don't hesitate to PM me.

Categories

Resources