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Hi guys,
In December, I started having problems with my WiFi. When I go into Comm Manager and press the WiFi symbol, I get the WinMo6 "spinner" to let me know it is thinking and then nothing.
Since then I've tried 3 or 4 different ROMs and I am still having the same problem. Is it just time for a new phone? Does anyone have any helpful hints or things to try?
Thanks in advance.
I got this exact same problem too....
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? I would really like WiFi back.
I have a similar problem but it will turn on, find the AP but not connect. I have a g-only router ang a b-only router (both unsecured) it will not connect to either, it'll try for a few seconds then stop. I have activate the connect to G router hack in the registry.
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As a note, I just turned on the Today Item "Wireless" and WiFi doesn't show up at all. Does that give anyone any clues?
my phone sometimes does this not-connecting-to-available-router-trick, then my usual procedure is to reboot the router.
Sometimes it shows the Icon as connected, but in reality won't even turn on the WiFi, even after a reboot. Then it's a bit more complex... I switch off the AP, then the wireless subsystem, reboot the phone, while it's booting reboot the AP, and THEN activate wireless. This usually shocks it back into sense and it connects just fine. This usually happens after I accidentally use the popup window to control the WiFi, or sometimes randomly. Small problem, but when it happens, pretty annoying...
jrronimo said:
As a note, I just turned on the Today Item "Wireless" and WiFi doesn't show up at all. Does that give anyone any clues?
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Yep, sounds just like what happens to me sometimes...
I happened to have same problem with my jasjar for about a year,,,
i started to believe its a hardware problem ...
the thing is i have tried all available ROMS official and not....but sometimes it works most of the times it dowsnt...
well program conflict is not the answer coz even after formatting i still have same problem....
What radio version are you guys using? I think I have 1.18.00. I am using Laurentius26's 2.05.00 ROM.
Guys,
Get a copy of TaskManager and check in the devices tab and check the wlan, also check your services tab.
It is likely that you either
1 Have a bad flash
2 Have a corrupt/unsigned driver
3 A hardware fault
My guess would be 2
Thanks for the response, Beast.
I see this: $device\WWN0(WWN0 Status: Loaded. Startup Type: Automatic. Dll: wwan.dll. Reg Key: Drivers\BuiltIn\WWN
I can stop it and restart it but it doesn't seem to do anything... Any ideas?
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Thanks for the response, Beast.
I see this: $device\WWN0(WWN0 Status: Loaded. Startup Type: Automatic. Dll: wwan.dll. Reg Key: Drivers\BuiltIn\WWN
I can stop it and restart it but it doesn't seem to do anything... Any ideas?
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check out ZCF1 (zero config) device.
is it okay/loaded? which dll it uses?
and is there any other device that's unloaded?
beast0898 said:
Guys,
Get a copy of TaskManager and check in the devices tab and check the wlan, also check your services tab.
It is likely that you either
1 Have a bad flash
2 Have a corrupt/unsigned driver
3 A hardware fault
My guess would be 2
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Mine would be 3. I'm using your ROM, so I trust you didn't include bad drivers
Although when fixed the way I said, it works A-OK...
shlomki said:
check out ZCF1 (zero config) device.
is it okay/loaded? which dll it uses?
and is there any other device that's unloaded?
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ZCF1 is loaded and using WZCSVC.dll.
There are 4 unloaded devices: DSK3, DSK2, COM8 and MIX1.
Thanks for your help as well. I hope we can get to the bottom of this.
mzalan - your problem seems different then jrronimo's.
mzalan's problem seems somewhat like something i experienced 2 days ago - relating to the wpa-tkip fix.
although i think your problem has nothing to do with the router, i think rebooting your phone is what does the trick. am i wrong?
i've made a cab for the wpa fix. after installing it my problems were gone.
give it a try - couldn't hurt.
jrronimo - maybe you should give it a shot also?
shlomki said:
although i think your problem has nothing to do with the router, i think rebooting your phone is what does the trick. am i wrong?
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Yes, you are wrong, I must say. You see, this only happens in the dormitory where stay during weekdays at school. There is one wireless AP there, a small Linksys unit, which only stops working if there are many connections through it(solved, since I limited the number of clients in the DHCP to 10, whit a 30min lease. The tech-man forgot to set a new admin password), or if the flow is too great. My tech-savvy roommate says it dies because the processor is too weak to handle the flow or the many connections, and the firmware hangs, that's why it needs to be reset.
The other thing supporting me is that those are the times when everyone with a laptop in the dorms comes running to me, or just yelling down the corridor for me to "do something about the net". So it can't be my phone only.
The second case, where the icon shows me as connected, however, is only the fault of my phone, but even then the router needs to be turned off before I reboot the phone to sort of "shock WiFi system back into life". Luckily, this does not happen often. But these are the times when everyone keeps asking why there was a drop in the service...
shlomki said:
i've made a cab for the wpa fix. after installing it my problems were gone. give it a try - couldn't hurt.
jrronimo - maybe you should give it a shot also?
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Well, I tried this and it didn't seem to help or hurt. I now see ZCF1: as having the driver wpatkip.dll but loaded or unloaded WiFi doesn't load.
A few times over the weekend, though, it WOULD load up (before I tried the .cab, I think)... but then it would turn itself off. Also, the page in the network settings where you would normally see a list of available access points is just sorta... gone.
sounds like your registry is corrupt. I would format the doc with mtty Task 28 55a and re-flash your rom mate.
That sounds scary but I'm certainly willing to try. The registry doesn't get overwritten when a new image is installed? Eesh.
So... what do I do? heh. I hate to be a noob about it but mtty is not something I've had to deal with before.
jrronimo said:
That sounds scary but I'm certainly willing to try. The registry doesn't get overwritten when a new image is installed? Eesh.
So... what do I do? heh. I hate to be a noob about it but mtty is not something I've had to deal with before.
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Firstly you need to download MTTY, it's floating around this Forum somewhere.
Secondly read the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Technical
This has details of all commands accseible through MTTY.
Yes the reg should be cleared when flashing, however it requires user input to "Clear Storage" after a flash, and it is possible that the DOC is corrupted.
If you still have questions after searching on MTTY, post back and we'll give more help.
Been thinking about getting a Touch Pro but my buddy has a Fuze and it won't show web pages in Opera or IE. It gives an error exactly like what this guy is experiencing, http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/2214127/HTC+Fuze+Internet+fails+6-12+hours+after+soft+reset?t=anon
I went to the AT&T store and both of the display models do the same thing. Went to the Sprint store and there display model does the same thing! The Touch Diamond sitting next to the Touch Pro at the Sprint store worked just fine. I tried the trick that apparently worked for some people in that thread on my buddies phone of holding down the hangup/disconnect button for 3+ seconds, the little colorful spinny ball comes on screen and then goes away but still can't get to the internet, same error. Same thing with the phone in the Sprint store.
What gives? How can all these TPs be having this problem but few others are complaining about it?
I dont know whats wrong with all of the Touch Pros you have used but mine is great... always shows any webpage the only complaint is the pages take a few seconds to render when you scroll
yeah mine works great and has since the beginning he probably hasnt set up his data correctly and usually display models dont do anything
never had a problem on mine. and i use opera, ie, opera mini, skyfire, iris
Yes, I have the same problem! After 16+ hours, email/weather in TF3D etc. are all working but browsers/google maps cannot access internet.
I have to switch off/on my data and everything starts working again.
I have AT&T Fuze with stock rom and radio.
Another thing, whenever I restart my phone, it asks for the password to connect to media.net, I have leave it blank, check save password and hit ok everytime.
ashu9uf said:
Another thing, whenever I restart my phone, it asks for the password to connect to media.net, I have leave it blank, check save password and hit ok everytime.
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this happened to me after i went into the connection settings page in settings. it's a pain in the ass so i just dont go back when i hard reset...
lbhocky19 said:
yeah mine works great and has since the beginning he probably hasnt set up his data correctly and usually display models dont do anything
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no, these are fully working phones, not just the dummy phones, the Samsung next to one of them at the AT&T store worked fine, the Blackberry next to the other one worked fine, but both Fuzes couldn't load webpages but otherwise worked, like I could launch apps and everything. The guys at the AT&T store couldn't figure out why it wasn't working either, said something about his manager had to call tech support to get it working since it was a store phone and he wasn't authorized to call tech support for it.
and like I said at the sprint store the diamond sitting next to the touch pro worked just fine but the touch pro coudlnt' get to webpages.
My buddies phone I think works for e-mail, think he has exchange setup.
ashu9uf said:
Yes, I have the same problem! After 16+ hours, email/weather in TF3D etc. are all working but browsers/google maps cannot access internet.
I have to switch off/on my data and everything starts working again.
I have AT&T Fuze with stock rom and radio.
Another thing, whenever I restart my phone, it asks for the password to connect to media.net, I have leave it blank, check save password and hit ok everytime.
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how do you switch it off an one?
I've never had a problem with it. Full web pages using opera. But I don't use my phone for that very often. If I want to get on the web I just tether, it's faster and easier.
MrbLOB9000 said:
how do you switch it off an one?
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You can go to settings, communications, and then switch off data connection. Or Start-menu, settings, network, wireless manager.
MrbLOB9000 said:
Been thinking about getting a Touch Pro but my buddy has a Fuze and it won't show web pages in Opera or IE. It gives an error exactly like what this guy is experiencing, http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/2214127/HTC+Fuze+Internet+fails+6-12+hours+after+soft+reset?t=anon
I went to the AT&T store and both of the display models do the same thing. Went to the Sprint store and there display model does the same thing! The Touch Diamond sitting next to the Touch Pro at the Sprint store worked just fine. I tried the trick that apparently worked for some people in that thread on my buddies phone of holding down the hangup/disconnect button for 3+ seconds, the little colorful spinny ball comes on screen and then goes away but still can't get to the internet, same error. Same thing with the phone in the Sprint store.
What gives? How can all these TPs be having this problem but few others are complaining about it?
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did you actually try making a phone call with it to see if the phone was active? seems like a stupid question but might be a simple solution...
nhshah7 said:
did you actually try making a phone call with it to see if the phone was active? seems like a stupid question but might be a simple solution...
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yes, phone also works fine, apart from mail/sms etc. It is just the browsers and the apps that cannot connect.
Did you try disable or enable hidden proxy? I've been having a weird problem with a custom ROM that I made and after a hard reset I have to use one or the other to get the internet to work again.
ashu9uf said:
yes, phone also works fine, apart from mail/sms etc. It is just the browsers and the apps that cannot connect.
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maybe you just have bad luck and got duds every time?
shannanigans?
I have worked in a couple ATT stores, and been in LOTS of cell phone stores (tmobile, verizon, sprint), and I have never seen a display model that had service. Most of them are not even real phones....
nhshah7 said:
did you actually try making a phone call with it to see if the phone was active? seems like a stupid question but might be a simple solution...
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my buddies phone definitely works for making calls, and works for e-mail but browser is a no go.
Reefermattness said:
I have worked in a couple ATT stores, and been in LOTS of cell phone stores (tmobile, verizon, sprint), and I have never seen a display model that had service. Most of them are not even real phones....
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all the other phones in the Sprint and AT&T stores are real phones and work fine, I went to the internet on the HTC Touch Diamond sitting two feet away and a Samsung Instinct accross the store at Sprint, and went to the web on a Motorla (or something) phone sitting next to the Fuze at the AT&T store. Best Buy has fake phones out so obviously couldn't check there.
dcelluser said:
Did you try disable or enable hidden proxy? I've been having a weird problem with a custom ROM that I made and after a hard reset I have to use one or the other to get the internet to work again.
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how do I do that? I tried to click disable on the proxy in opera:config but it seems to autoenable it's self again.
I have this problem, too! I thought it was just my account on AT&T that has this problem (my MeidaNet page also does not work) but it might be a bigger problem in AT&Ts network. It isn't just the FUZE that does this, my Tilt did it, too. I do not remember if my Black Jack did or not.
This happens to me EXACTLY when my data connection time goes over 24 hours. I have to close my data connection to fix it. Not a HUGE issue, but would be nice if it was resolved. I think default end key hold behavior is to end the data connection, so that's why it works.
If my data connection sits idle for too long something like that happens occasionally for me...
but nothing a quick 'disable/enable data' cant fix.
I also dont use stock roms, I had the Fuze stock ROM for 2 days before i flashed it (wanted to do my research on flashing before I did it, also wanted a 'control' for when i swapped phones)
Lets face it. All devices have bugs upon release that the normal person won't care about nor think of it as a bug. This device has it's share but as a reminder. There is no software bug that can't be fixed. By the way, make sure you don't skip the initial setup and if you did just wipe and restore.
1) Some are having a problem when using WiFi. There 4G or 3G data is not turning off and instead of your device using WiFi to exchange data it is using your 4G or 3G data. If you turn WiFi on and don't see a 4G/3G icon in the notification area then your device is working properly in this department.
The Fix: There is three "My Account" apps on our devices and there causing a conflict when 2 or more is running at the same time. To fix this you need to delete all of them (I used Root Explorer). If you use "My Account" you can download the current version from the market. Next, freeze or delete WiFi calling and the T-Mobile app pack. After you have deleted everything you have to reboot your device. Note: While deleting or freezing some of these, you might get some looping force closes. Just simply remove your battery to reboot the device and once it reboots the force closing will be gone.
2) Some are having a problem when moving from cell tower to cell tower. If you are losing a data signal every once in a while but the 4G/3G icon is still showing in the notification area, you need to do the fallowing.
The Fix: Go into your Mobile Network settings and make sure your device is setup to automatically use GSM/WCDMA. Then click on search for networks and at this point you will see T-Mobile UMTS, T-Mobile GSM and ATT GSW. After they appear click on select automatically. While your at it go ahead and click on data roaming since T-Mobile has contracts with other providers so your able to roam on there towers. Don't worry, you won't be charged for roaming since T-Mobile only charges for international roaming. After all this do a reboot.
Some of you think that there is a problem with your battery if your device is showing your "cell standby" above 30%. This is not a problem. Every time you charge your G2X it will reset usage percentages as you know. Well if you emediatly start using your phone and don't put it down for 2 hours than I promise you that your display will be at the top of the list. Obviously if your device stays off for a little bit and upon waking it you look at your battery statistics your going to see Cell standby and Phone idle at the top since the display was off. If your wandering why Cell Standby is using more juice than WiFi it's because when you turn your display off it automatically sleeps your WiFi.
The percentages in your batter statistics need to add up to 100%-105% and something is going to use more than the rest depending on what your doing with your device after removing it from charge. Ask yourself this. If my G2X is in my pocket for 1 hour after removing it from it's charger. What would I like to see using most of my battery? I can tell you right now. Certainly not your display since it's been off the entire time.
There's only one MyAccount app on the phone. I looked myself in the System/app folder. If you see multiple MyAccounts in a task manager it is just another instance of the same application.
Also there's NOTHING wrong with Wifi Calling or My Account. I have both on and use them extensively. My phone has gone now 26hrs without a reboot or hitch of heavy usage. Wifi works, 3G/4G works perfectly. I don't have any issues right now...until the next reboot
Want to give people another perspective since you don't have to give up MyAccount or Wifi caling to have a usable phone.
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Ask yourself this. If my G2X is in my pocket for 1 hour after removing it from it's charger. What would I like to see using most of my battery? I can tell you right now. Certainly not your display since it's been off the entire time.
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Cell standby of course
mobilehavoc said:
There's only one MyAccount app on the phone. I looked myself in the System/app folder. If you see multiple MyAccounts in a task manager it is just another instance of the same application.
Also there's NOTHING wrong with Wifi Calling or My Account. I have both on and use them extensively. My phone has gone now 26hrs without a reboot or hitch of heavy usage. Wifi works, 3G/4G works perfectly. I don't have any issues right now...until the next reboot
Want to give people another perspective since you don't have to give up MyAccount or Wifi caling to have a usable phone.
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Thats WHY you don't have any problems. Because you only have 1 "MyAccount" application. Those of us that had 2 or 3 have the problems. By the way I had 3 and no they weren't showing in task manager. They were all deleted using Root Explorer.
Where did you see them? They were all in system/app??!?
Odd how they could all exist together - were they named differently?
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Where did you see them? They were all in system/app??!?
Odd how they could all exist together - were they named differently?
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Yes, different version numbers and branding included in the apks. I had 2, version 1 and version 5.x.
OP, for some reason when I try Search Networks I get: "Error while searching for networks." Any ideas?
mobilehavoc said:
Where did you see them? They were all in system/app??!?
Odd how they could all exist together - were they named differently?
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They all existed in the system folder. It seemed like instead of the new versions updating the existing app, they were just creating new files. Your right, it is odd but I can see how that would create a problem.
rfm2113 said:
OP, for some reason when I try Search Networks I get: "Error while searching for networks." Any ideas?
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I got the same thing. I had to enable wifi, then shut off wifi calling. Then it worked.
OP, for some reason when I try Search Networks I get: "Error while searching for networks." Any ideas?
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I got the same thing. I had to enable wifi, then shut off wifi calling. Then it worked.
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Worked perfectly, thanks!
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I've been running this ROM for a while, through multiple versions, and it's usually worked fairly well. Did the full wipe/install of BR7 this week and since then location is completely dead.
GPS was always slow, but it worked, but now it does not work at all (using GPS test I can see it will never see *any* satellites), and other applications refuse to even attempt location using A-GPS (so maps is pretty much useless at this point).
Not quite sure what I may have done to screw it up, but any ideas on what to try to get location (even if it's just network assisted) back?
Weird... after a bunch of reboots, the "are you sure you want to enable network location?" dialog appeared, and now network location works. Not sure why it took so much trouble for that to kick in.
GPS is still dead, though.
trestrepo said:
Weird... after a bunch of reboots, the "are you sure you want to enable network location?" dialog appeared, and now network location works. Not sure why it took so much trouble for that to kick in.
GPS is still dead, though.
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Could just be a bad flash. Did you try redownloading and reflashing?
EDIT: or just check the sha1 and reflash.
Please post all questions in the Q & A section. Thanks!
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bananagranola said:
Could just be a bad flash. Did you try redownloading and reflashing?
EDIT: or just check the sha1 and reflash.
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Yeah, I did do that, but didn't notice any changes... not sure what else could be affecting it.
Hi guys,
I run PA 4.4 for like 10 days now. Since a week ago I have strange locations in my Google location history - constantly, when not moving - and rather accurate when I am outside (maybe has something to do with the wifi connection when stationary at home or at work?)...
One interesting part of it is: the first days of my new PA experience everything was fine. So probably it does not have anything to do with it. That first day I had the issue my phone crashed earlier while I was outside and I had to do a reboot. Maybe some settings were changed during that!? Or... maybe it doesn't and it's just a coincidence after some apps where updated (Google Search or so)...
I tried quite some settings to figure out what happens here - and it is not trivial - to my mind:
I did another clean install of the ROM; had the same issue again
I changed between "high accuracy" and "battery saving" mode in the location settings; no change
I went to the developer settings and unchecked "accept mock locations" (is that how the option is called in English?); no change
I have a Nexus 10 also running Android 4.4.4 and started to record my location history from that device with different settings: all are fine and accurate! When I record from both devices I can actually see my history jumping in 5-minute-mode...
Any ideas, any suggestions?
Please...
Two more findings, which make this issue even stranger:
When I move in the house - e.g. 2nd instead of ground floor - I get different locations, some 100 or 200 meters away, but both far from home.
I turned wifi off for one and a half hour - that resulted in perfect locations!! Locations were inaccurate after turning wifi on again...
What is wrong here?? So I get more inaccurate locations when connected to wifi!?
i always run straight gps and never wifi. imo its a conflict of interest.
gps is dead accurate, so the only time you could benefit from wifi is when you are in a building with no gps signal, and frankly, why would i need 100% accurate gps if im already in the building.
again imo, what is happening is, it can only reference wifi that it knows the exact location of. it has no way to tell how far from that wifi you are, so its guessing based on a limited gps signal and known wifi points.
i think its a waste of battery to be scanning wifi points all the time any ways, unless you have a constant use for it.
bweN diorD said:
i always run straight gps and never wifi. imo its a conflict of interest.
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Thank you for the answer! And I sort of agree...
But the question is:
what did change that day when my location started to be different? I never had problems for more than two years of using the location history. Even after moving in April everything was fine with the wifi locations. I get one accurate reading like every one to three hours - so the location jumps from time time. Why is that? Is that a gps reading?
Plus: how could I change the settings? The only thing I can chose from is: "battery saving" (cell towers and wifi) or "high accuracy" (the same plus gps). I selected the second option but obviously still the Google location service does not really use it. When I turn off wifi it can only use cell towers plus gps... but obviously I want to be connected to the wifi when being at home.
I can't say why it started acting up.
If you use WiFi you are kinda stuck.
I only have GPS on and denied anything that wants to use WiFi for any reason.
I don't know where the option is found, but I remember it asking if I wanted to use WiFi to help results or something like that, I chose no.
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bweN diorD said:
I don't know where the option is found, but I remember it asking if I wanted to use WiFi to help results or something like that, I chose no.
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I guess that option is the "use wifi for location detection although wifi is turned off" which can be found in the wifi advanced options. But I turned that on and off, no change.
But one more test from myself:
I let wifi on but disconnected from my home network. The result is: accurate locations! So the problem is not the wifi itself but a connected wifi!? And it is not only the home network because I had the same issue at work.
Plus: we just had a thunderstorm, that could have been the reason why cell towers and/or gps reacted differently: my location was at some new place about more than a mile away. The worst thing is: accuracy of that location point was about half a mile -- which means: my real location was not inside the accuracy cycle (that blue cycle when using location history)!!
The accuracy cycle is always very small when I get the real readings at home and always about half a mile in radius when somewhere else...
that is basically the problem with using wifi to help. there are too many variables. location needs to know the location of the wifi, but then there is a broadcast radius that decreases accuracy. there is also the question, what does it do when you are connected to a wifi it doesnt know the location of?, that could cause inaccuracy. maybe it makes an uneducated guess, who knows. there is also the issue, what if it thinks it knows the location but its actually wrong?
the list of possible scenarios could go on and on as to why it isnt reporting correctly.
the only way to truly know why it is wrong is to find out why exactly it thinks you are where you are when its wrong. there has to be some exact source of information its using to base your wrong location on. unfortunately, i doubt there is any way for the common user to get this information, let alone take corrective action so its not inaccurate in the future.
wrong locations only when wifi is connected, only on one device
OK, what do we already know?
I have the problem for some 8 to 10 days now. Never had it before, only have it on one device.
Maybe a coincidence but this behavior started on a day where my phone crashed and I had to reset.
I made a clean new re-install of the PA 4.4 and recently received the update to PA 4.42. There are no changes in the behavior.
It is only my phone (running ParanoidAndroid based on KitKat 4.4.4), my tablet (Nexus 10 running stock KitKat 4.4.4) does not have this problem (so it's no wifi relocation because of moving or such general problem).
I have the problem with more than one wifi! Have already seen these false locations when connected to the home and when connected to the work network. Problems with both networks started the same day...
Wrong locations are constantly there when my phone is connected to a wifi.
It's not always the same location, sometimes I get different readings, but it's 90% a position ~430m west of my home.
The correct locations have high accuracy (a few meters), the wrong locations have very low accuracy (~1000m or even more).
When I start Google Maps (i.e. probably when the phone uses gps) I can see my position moving towards the correct location.
When I switch off wifi or when leave wifi on but disconnect my phone from the network, then I get the correct location constantly.
Roughly every 1 to 3 hours there is one correct location within the list of false locations.
I tried virtually every combination of settings, "high accuracy" and "battery saving" for the location service, "no mock locations" in the advanced developers settings, "use wifi for location detection although wifi is switched off" in the wifi settings, ...
Is there some sort of cache that might be corrupted!?
Is there a possibility to force using gps?
What else...
Tho-D said:
OK, what do we already know?
I have the problem for some 8 to 10 days now. Never had it before, only have it on one device.
Maybe a coincidence but this behavior started on a day where my phone crashed and I had to reset.
I made a clean new re-install of the PA 4.4 and recently received the update to PA 4.42. There are no changes in the behavior.
It is only my phone (running ParanoidAndroid based on KitKat 4.4.4), my tablet (Nexus 10 running stock KitKat 4.4.4) does not have this problem (so it's no wifi relocation because of moving or such general problem).
I have the problem with more than one wifi! Have already seen these false locations when connected to the home and when connected to the work network. Problems with both networks started the same day...
Wrong locations are constantly there when my phone is connected to a wifi.
It's not always the same location, sometimes I get different readings, but it's 90% a position ~430m west of my home.
The correct locations have high accuracy (a few meters), the wrong locations have very low accuracy (~1000m or even more).
When I start Google Maps (i.e. probably when the phone uses gps) I can see my position moving towards the correct location.
When I switch off wifi or when leave wifi on but disconnect my phone from the network, then I get the correct location constantly.
Roughly every 1 to 3 hours there is one correct location within the list of false locations.
I tried virtually every combination of settings, "high accuracy" and "battery saving" for the location service, "no mock locations" in the advanced developers settings, "use wifi for location detection although wifi is switched off" in the wifi settings, ...
Is there some sort of cache that might be corrupted!?
Is there a possibility to force using gps?
What else...
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I guess you shouldn't rule out that it is an issue caused by the ROM some how.
On my phone I can force it to use GPS only, I have the option anyways.
Under location I have device only or something like that, it says it only uses GPS when that option is selected.
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bweN diorD said:
I guess you shouldn't rule out that it is an issue caused by the ROM some how.
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I thought about that, too. Means to installiert something else, CM11 vor so...
There's the option "device only".
That option does not record the location history, afaik.
Which means: Google Now does not work. So that's not an option...
Tho-D said:
There's the option "device only".
That option does not record the location history, afaik.
Which means: Google Now does not work. So that's not an option...
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Ohh OK, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info
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There's the option "device only".
That option does not record the location history, afaik.
Which means: Google Now does not work. So that's not an option...
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so i did a little test today on the way home from work, as i took a different route than normal to avoid traffic.
when i started "maps" i had to allow google location services to navigate. so im pretty sure you can use device only as long as you allowed google location for apps, as it said something about my google now functionality when i turned it off after navigating.
last week i navigated a 3 hour trip, on a different rom, with no issues. today, maps couldn't seem to start gps to find my location to start navigating. so i turned on "high accuracy", more to test than anything else, and it found my location and we were navigating home .
i knew where i wanted to go but at some points that varied from where maps wanted me to go. for a while it did good at making quick corrections to my path. about 20 minutes in, i didn't follow its directions again. well this time, it didn't recognize that i didn't turn, then advised me to make a subsequent turn onto a road that was off the road i didn't turn onto. now, the road i am on is about 1/4 mile from the road it thinks im on, the 2 roads are parallel. well it took maps over a mile, after i made another turn towards the road it thought i was on, before it realized it was wrong and made corrective instructions. after that, i made a quick stop to grab some liquid refreshment for the night and turned off navigation, as i was close to home.
this really goes to prove nothing more than "high accuracy" is not always highly accurate. i traveled across 3 states last week for 3 hours on "device only" and never once was it wrong about my exact location.
just wanted to share my experience, really doesn't help or fix your problem, but may shed some light on the possible inaccuracies across multiple devices.
bweN diorD said:
so im pretty sure you can use device only as long as you allowed google location for apps, as it said something about my google now functionality when i turned it off after navigating.
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I tried this and yes, Maps works with the "device only" setting. But when using Now it said that location-based cards (weather, traffic, ...) only work with "high accuracy" or "battery saving". So for me this setting is useless.
I guess I'll do another clean install and try CM11 or so...
it's not ROM related
I trid to install CM11 M8 today. For some reason I wasn't able to, received these strange "Unfortunately process ... has stopped" messages all the time and was not able to complete the initial setup. The only hint I found online is to make sure CWM recovery is up to date. I use v6.0.5.0 which I assume is up to date.
So I made another clean install of PA 4.42. Then I downloaded another ROM: did a clean install of SlimKat. This went smoothly, but I have the same location problems, both times!!!!
I guess we can be sure my location problems are not related to the ROM.
One thing I saw that seems noteworthy: I had correct locations for some time and then the wrong locations started again. Maybe this has to do with the system restoring backed up settings or installing / updating all the apps!?
Any ideas?
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I trid to install CM11 M8 today. For some reason I wasn't able to, received these strange "Unfortunately process ... has stopped" messages all the time and was not able to complete the initial setup. The only hint I found online is to make sure CWM recovery is up to date. I use v6.0.5.0 which I assume is up to date.
So I made another clean install of PA 4.42. Then I downloaded another ROM: did a clean install of SlimKat. This went smoothly, but I have the same location problems, both times!!!!
I guess we can be sure my location problems are not related to the ROM.
One thing I saw that seems noteworthy: I had correct locations for some time and then the wrong locations started again. Maybe this has to do with the system restoring backed up settings or installing / updating all the apps!?
Any ideas?
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the only way to rule out the rom's is to return to stock and check it there.
its not uncommon to have similar issues across multiple rom's.
im not saying you are wrong, changing from one rom to another is just not a good way to check an issue.
bweN diorD said:
the only way to rule out the rom's is to return to stock and check it there.
its not uncommon to have similar issues across multiple rom's.
im not saying you are wrong, changing from one rom to another is just not a good way to check an issue.
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Oh, is that the case?
Then I should install the stock Samsung ROM and check. Probably will do it in a few days since I am busy the next days.
BTW: I installed SlimKat and then PA again. After installing SlimKat I now have TWRP instead of CWM recovery and the settings of 5x5 Icons on the home screen plus smaller font size and probably a few other settings remain in PA although I did factory reset, format cache and so on...
The thing is: how can I change this back!?!? Didn't find it in the settings. It'not font size (which is set to 100%).
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Oh, is that the case?
Then I should install the stock Samsung ROM and check. Probably will do it in a few days since I am busy the next days.
BTW: I installed SlimKat and then PA again. After installing SlimKat I now have TWRP instead of CWM recovery and the settings of 5x5 Icons on the home screen plus smaller font size and probably a few other settings remain in PA although I did factory reset, format cache and so on...
The thing is: how can I change this back!?!? Didn't find it in the settings. It'not font size (which is set to 100%).
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there is another partition thats not normally wiped with a factory reset. i believe its called "data/media". the official cwm's that i have used have an option to wipe this separately, but i havent seen this option in twrp, or know if it wipes it by default. my guess would be no, but i could be wrong.
anyways, some settings and/or app data is stored in this area. you likely need to wipe this to fix the problem. that would be my best guess anyways.
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there is another partition thats not normally wiped with a factory reset. i believe its called "data/media". the official cwm's that i have used have an option to wipe this separately, but i havent seen this option in twrp, or know if it wipes it by default. my guess would be no, but i could be wrong.
anyways, some settings and/or app data is stored in this area. you likely need to wipe this to fix the problem. that would be my best guess anyways.
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Just rebooted into recovery and was surprised its CWM again!? Anyways, good its back!
The one option I always used is "wipe data/factory reset" (plus of course "wipe cache"). Under "mounts and storage" there's an extra option "format /data". Should I try this one?
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Just rebooted into recovery and was surprised its CWM again!? Anyways, good its back!
The one option I always used is "wipe data/factory reset" (plus of course "wipe cache"). Under "mounts and storage" there's an extra option "format data". Should I try this one?
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I'm pretty sure it says data/media. I don't have cwm on right now or I would check, but I think it is under mounts and storage. It was in the same dir where you can format system and such if I remember correctly.
Its also possible someone removed that option from your version, but I don't know why they would unless your phone doesn't have that partition.
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