Database Info

Stock Rom Deodexed WITHOUT CWM Recovery

SCRAPPED!
Check out the new Odin Flashable version here:
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Nice guide, good work. Now have a beer!

This is just asking for trouble. You are overwriting and deleting system files that are in use.
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Well Krylon I've done it several times and it works. If you actually had this phone you could try it yourself. While I can't write a custom recovery, I do have some experience with android and don't mind using unorthodox methods if it benefits my phone as much as it did.
BTW, what's with all the negative nay-saying?
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aloneinshadow said:
Well Krylon I've done it several times and it works. If you actually had this phone you could try it yourself. While I can't write a custom recovery, I do have some experience with android and don't mind using unorthodox methods if it benefits my phone as much as it did.
BTW, what's with all the negative nay-saying?
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its not naysaying, but the first person people hit up is krylon when they brick their phones, and he's just trying to limit that until they come up with a SURE FIRE way to do it. Dont take it as an insult

I wouldn't have posted it unless I thoroughly tested it on my own phone. My only thing is don't come in criticizing people who are trying if you've been gone for 2 weeks while everyone else has been trying to figure this out. It may not be the way Krylon would do it, but it works. And if for some reason it doesn't for you, by all means, flash back to stock. The risk is worth the reward.
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perhaps if you would read my tweets, you would see why I was gone for 2 weeks.
As far as being negative, I'm not. I'm saying this isn't a good idea due to the fact you are deleting proprietary system files/drivers that are currently in use, which results in a hardware failure. This poses a risk of burning/frying the hardware or causing the drivers you are copying back over to become corrupt.
Here is an easier/safer way to do this.
Download MagicISO, Download my Tar (which I think you already have), and download the deodexed rom.
Extract the tar
Open MagicISO
within magic, open factoryfs.rfs (you will need to change the drop down to look for all files)
This opens /system
delete app and framework dir's
open the deodexed /system
copy over app and framework dir's into magic
close, retar everything you extracted from the original
odin

dbl post. My bad.

Much more constructive, thank you. I appreciate the help and advice and I will make those changes later tonight.
P.S. I don't tweet so that's probably why. Tried it and used it a few times but just didn't like it.
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aloneinshadow said:
Much more constructive, thank you. I appreciate the help and advice and I will make those changes later tonight.
P.S. I don't tweet so that's probably why. Tried it and used it a few times but just didn't like it.
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ahh ok, yeah, I had personal issues I had to deal with at work, pretty much got fired, but yet still employed, they gave all my clients to other employees, so I turned in my notice. Now I'm just cleaning things up, and job searching, and collecting a paycheck for the next 25 days. hehe.
So that's why I was inactive for 2 weeks.

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ahh ok, yeah, I had personal issues I had to deal with at work, pretty much got fired, but yet still employed, they gave all my clients to other employees, so I turned in my notice. Now I'm just cleaning things up, and job searching, and collecting a paycheck for the next 25 days. hehe.
So that's why I was inactive for 2 weeks.
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hope the job hunt goes well, glad to have u on the case now, us gs4g owners need some love! lol

krylon360 said:
ahh ok, yeah, I had personal issues I had to deal with at work, pretty much got fired, but yet still employed, they gave all my clients to other employees, so I turned in my notice. Now I'm just cleaning things up, and job searching, and collecting a paycheck for the next 25 days. hehe.
So that's why I was inactive for 2 weeks.
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Wow, sorry to hear that man. You were working for ABD right? That's enough to put anyone one down for a good two weeks. Good luck with the search.

aloneinshadow said:
Wow, sorry to hear that man. You were working for ABD right? That's enough to put anyone one down for a good two weeks. Good luck with the search.
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ADP
here's the tar command you will want to use.
Download and install cygwin if you dont have linux installed.
move the files to cygwin/home/(profilename)/
tar --format=ustar -cf FILENAME.tar factoryfs.rfs cache.rfs modem.bin zImage
change filename to what you want the tar to be called.

OK I had the parameters wrong in cygwin when I retried it. I'll try these next.
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any word on this process?
Also Krylon,
I heard some rumors that TW may already have some ROM's ready for this phone once we get a working CWM. Is this true? and is so could you maybe give a hint to what we might be seeing from TW?
thanks for the hard work and sorry to hear about the job.

lovemysgs said:
any word on this process?
Also Krylon,
I heard some rumors that TW may already have some ROM's ready for this phone once we get a working CWM. Is this true? and is so could you maybe give a hint to what we might be seeing from TW?
thanks for the hard work and sorry to hear about the job.
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Black Ice and Frost for now. I'll have to work with Som porting over V.

My theory on the pending update

Hi guys,
Nothing scientific about my theory, but I dont think we will see an update until after the sensation comes out. T-Mobile knows there are a great number of people annoyed with the bugs the G2x has, and some of these people might be willing to jump to the sensation.
If the G2x update came out prior to the sensation release, it might actually hurt sensation sales because G2x satification would rise.
Just a thought, could be totally wrong.

mikea3000 said:
Hi guys,
Nothing scientific about my theory, but I dont think we will see an update until after the sensation comes out. T-Mobile knows there are a great number of people annoyed with the bugs the G2x has, and some of these people might be willing to jump to the sensation.
If the G2x update came out prior to the sensation release, it might actually hurt sensation sales because G2x satification would rise.
Just a thought, could be totally wrong.
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the g2x is tmobiles flagship phone... you really think they are stalling the update on purpose?
i dont see how it would hurt sensation sales anyway, the phones are so different... i didnt want to wait for a sensation because of many other reasons...

The GB update comes out in the summer, which isn't here yet (6/21).
The sensation is out before so your theory is "true" one way or another.

Wait... what?
T-Mobile already made their money for the people who bought the G2x. A lot of people who will jump ship will still be within they're return period in which case Tmo doesnt make any more money off that same person buying the sensation.
Of course there are those who will jump ship outside of their return period, selling their G2x themselves. In that case tmo does make a little extra cash but I doubt their counting on that. I dont think the update has anything to do with the pending G2x release.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Tmo's real money maker is the monthly plans. They care not about selling this device or that device or delaying this update or that update on purpose.

GideonX said:
The GB update comes out in the summer, which isn't here yet (6/21).
The sensation is out before so your theory is "true" one way or another.
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According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.

dkb218 said:
According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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I guess all g2x owners will pop a woody if someone can dump the downloaded update today

GideonX said:
I guess all g2x owners will pop a woody if someone can dump the downloaded update today
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I'd bet money a rooted version of the update will be posted here by the end of the day of release

regP said:
I'd bet money a rooted version of the update will be posted here by the end of the day of release
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More like by the end of a hour of release.

JHaste said:
the g2x is tmobiles flagship phone... you really think they are stalling the update on purpose?
i dont see how it would hurt sensation sales anyway, the phones are so different... i didnt want to wait for a sensation because of many other reasons...
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Sorry to disagree so strongly, but what are you smoking, and can I have some? They pulled the phone...no need to speculate on reasons why, but I don't think it's easy to make the case the g2x is still their flagship phone.
OP's theory is plausible, at least...

dkb218 said:
According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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This is a total joke, right? Man, I wish there *were* Ninjas at T-Mobile...

I would rather wait a bit and have it done right...
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BobbyDukes707 said:
I would rather wait a bit and have it done right...
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LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key

Lightning N1 said:
LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key
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Exactly this.. I wait for about a day after release for a rooted, deodexed version..

dkb218 said:
According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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Hype likely wrong
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Erislover said:
Sorry to disagree so strongly, but what are you smoking, and can I have some? They pulled the phone...no need to speculate on reasons why, but I don't think it's easy to make the case the g2x is still their flagship phone.
OP's theory is plausible, at least...
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If you could read you would know they pulled the phone because it was selling faster then they could produce it.....reading is knowledge
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Lightning N1 said:
LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key
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rofl. I love it.
To me, it can make sense to wait or to just release it. They obviously have a brand new phone that needs an update. That is hurting them, money wise, more then just releasing the update.
Although you may have people hold out for the Sensation. Either way you have some people who have a G2x now, looking to buy a G2x or Sensation, and some who got pissed, sold the phone, and moved to Verizon.
I always believe to fix the problem as soon as possible. The longer it goes on the deeper the cuts.
My G2x is fantastic though on CM7. So while I may benefit from the update indirectly, I'm not sitting by watching the clock for it.

Will I have to unroot my G2X in order to get official GB update?

krekabl said:
Will I have to unroot my G2X in order to get official GB update?
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Nope... but you will most likely lose root....
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BobbyDukes707 said:
Nope... but you will most likely lose root....
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That will suck.
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New Update Today, Changed my Boot Animation

New update today. When it finished and it restarted, The boot animation is now diff. The clouds come up and the Thunderbolt Logo forms, but now it stays and doesn't unform itself. Looks a lot Nicer.
On top of that there is some new VZW Data Widget.

Welcome to the future.
We've been waiting for you.

BoulderGeek said:
Welcome to the future.
We've been waiting for you.
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lol...So is this because I got the update late? or because I'm not rooted?

My new boot screen is sick, it says something about das BAMF...oh wait...lol. You might like the custom ROM loading screens over Verizon's...
sent from my rooted Thunderbolt with das BAMF 3.0 rc4

Is it really necessary to mention your rooted in every stock thread? We get it guys, you're cool. Now stop posting useless spam.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt

BBowermaster said:
Is it really necessary to mention your rooted in every stock thread? We get it guys, you're cool. Now stop posting useless spam.
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technically you didnt have to root do get the fancy bootscreen the OP is talking about in advance. The OTA leak for unrooted users was out over a week or so ago at least as well (longer if you count the MR2 leaks that were canned).

yareally said:
The OTA leak for unrooted users was out over a week or so ago at least as well .
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This is the situation to which I was referring. "Oh wow, my bootscreen changed" is so July 9th.
I don't mean to be snide. It's just mildly entertaining.
ANd WTF is with these political sponsorship ads getting invasive all over this site? The Republicans had no problem writing blank checks and deficit spending for ten years. Why get their panties all in a twist now, just because we have a brown President? I say, keep tech sites tech.

BoulderGeek said:
This is the situation to which I was referring. "Oh wow, my bootscreen changed" is so July 9th.
I don't mean to be snide. It's just mildly entertaining.
ANd WTF is with these political sponsorship ads getting invasive all over this site? The Republicans had no problem writing blank checks and deficit spending for ten years. Why get their panties all in a twist now, just because we have a brown President? I say, keep tech sites tech.
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What ads? I dont see them
(I have the adservers added in my hosts file, it's far easier than complaining). I would normally show the ads for sites I support, but when they get to be too much, I can't deal with it. I had to sadly do same thing when Stack Overflow a while ago when they wouldn't do anything about the obviously targeted and over saturated Microsoft ads they had everywhere. It was so bad you could search for "gnu linux opensource" and it would still bomb you with microsoft bs.
Sometime after November 2012, I'll unblock them again . I would post the adserver names, but the powers that be might not like that. However, it's not hard to right click -> view source and find things.
I don't think xda controls their own adservers and thus, does not control the ad content (google/doubleclick ads and maybe some other, cant remember). That's slightly different than stack overflow, where they did control it, so one could say xda is slightly less at fault.

My girlfriends TB is non rooted. Still no update for her phone. Software update doesn't seem to do anything. Hoping she gets it soon as she is always complaining about her "piece of crap" phone.
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broons said:
My girlfriends TB is non rooted. Still no update for her phone. Software update doesn't seem to do anything. Hoping she gets it soon as she is always complaining about her "piece of crap" phone.
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It's a gradual rollout, not everyone gets it at the same time. And if she thinks the Tbolt is a POS, maybe she should exchange it for an iphone or blackberry. Or you could root it for her and slap a custom rom & kernel on it, and you wouldn't hear her ***** & moan about it anymore
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sublimaze said:
It's a gradual rollout, not everyone gets it at the same time. And if she thinks the Tbolt is a POS, maybe she should exchange it for an iphone or blackberry. Or you could root it for her and slap a custom rom & kernel on it, and you wouldn't hear her ***** & moan about it anymore
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Or you could quit waiting on verizon and just put the signed OTA from verizon on yourself. It would take like a few minutes of finding the post in the developers forum and then a few more to flash it in the bootloader.
Being on xda and waiting for an ota from verizon when the same signed ota that would work for non rooted phones is on here = sad panda
there's no way a hour's worth of reading (if you really cant figure it out) is worse than hearing her complain

I offered to root it for her, but she didn't want me to. To each their own lol. Well, tbh, the 5-6 reboots per day, plus the extreme lagginess at times just really make her mad seeing as how she paid $250 for it and its her first android phone. I can understand her anger at it, especially since whenever we talk to Verizon they just throw up their hands and say they can't do anything about, thanks for your 250 bucks.
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broons said:
I offered to root it for her, but she didn't want me to. To each their own lol. Well, tbh, the 5-6 reboots per day, plus the extreme lagginess at times just really make her mad seeing as how she paid $250 for it and its her first android phone. I can understand her anger at it, especially since whenever we talk to Verizon they just throw up their hands and say they can't do anything about, thanks for your 250 bucks.
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I dont think you understood what I meant. You dont have to root her phone to give her the latest OTA update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160286&highlight=ruu
The full RUU for upcoming Thunderbolt OTA update has been released thanks to Jcase/TeamAndIRC and Android Police. This is a Froyo release, hopefully the last one. This is for non-rooted users and will wipe all of your data. It is highly recommended that you do not flash over a rooted phone. Hold out for Jcase to release the rooted version soon. I have it available to download off my http server below and you can see the original sources below. Didn't see anyone start a thread for this yet.
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Just make sure to back up whatever you can first if you do decide to do it.

BBowermaster said:
Is it really necessary to mention your rooted in every stock thread? We get it guys, you're cool. Now stop posting useless spam.
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I just wanted to say I am rooted!

yareally said:
technically you didnt have to root do get the fancy bootscreen the OP is talking about in advance. The OTA leak for unrooted users was out over a week or so ago at least as well (longer if you count the MR2 leaks that were canned).
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I was referring to admiralspark's comment about his DAS BAMF bootscreen. The quote function didn't work on my phone's forum app.

Who has gotten the OTA?

Post if you have gotten the gb 2.3.4 OTA yet... If you did please post a screen shot of the about phone .
Mods if you feel this needs to be close or deleted go right ahead.
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Do you have some source suggesting anyone should be seeing it soon?
*Edit* I see posts of people saying that other people are saying they are getting the OTA, but nobody who actually says they got it themselves haha

Yeah that is what i read too . That is why i started this thread so that we can see who has it and to actually show us an actually screen shot of it on their phone.
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First I've heard of people claiming to have it. Guess we'll see...certainly would be nice, seems like it should help the devs having it out officially.
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I honestly didn't think official GB would be coming so soon :] Ohhh my beloved Charge, you just keep getting better.

Sad face...
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I haven't seen anyone saying they've gotten the OTA update. EP1W seems stable enough to release, though. I think the current issues a few people are having are isolated to their location (constant tower switching draining battery) or the TW4 implementation in the debloated leak.

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Sad face...
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won't work if you're rooted and running a custom rom.. only way an OTA update will go through is if you're stock
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge

anoninja118 said:
won't work if you're rooted and running a custom rom.. only way an OTA update will go through is if you're stock
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
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You can check for, and potentially even download an OTA update when on a custom ROM, however, you won't be able to actually apply it. It checks literally every file to make sure it hasn't been modified, and if any file is missing or changed, it will fail to update.

As of right now,09/06/11 1:46PM Eastern in Fort Lauderdale, FL, with a last name starting in "S," I have NOT gotten the update. I know sometimes it rolls by area, sometimes it rolls by last name (like Sprint) - if it is coming today, it hasn't come to me yet. Obviously you guys will be first to know if/when it does.
I'm 100% stock, not even rooted. Just FYI.

I don't think any OTA will be rolling out until the end of the month at the earliest.

I think Verizon typically updates their device support page before rolling out OTA updates:
http://support.vzw.com/system_update/charge.html
http://support.vzw.com/pdf/system_update/droid_charge_instructions.pdf
http://support.vzw.com/pdf/system_update/droid_charge.pdf
Nothing new there so I'm guessing they haven't started rolling out GB anywhere.

Guess the people who say they've gotten it are lying. Not believing its released yet until I see screenshots. And yeah, even though the rom itself is done, they still have to finalize it and make sure it's ready for OTA, not just flashing through PST, train their staff, etc etc. But WE have it
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My wife has stock on her phone. And she hasn't had an OTA update yet. So not out.
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charlie_c said:
I think Verizon typically updates their device support page before rolling out OTA updates:
http://support.vzw.com/system_update/charge.html
http://support.vzw.com/pdf/system_update/droid_charge_instructions.pdf
http://support.vzw.com/pdf/system_update/droid_charge.pdf
Nothing new there so I'm guessing they haven't started rolling out GB anywhere.
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THIS!
The leak was labeled as "official" so maybe that is where people are saying they have he official one.
I think we will see the OTA's before the end of the month unless p3droid has another leak in their hands (this last one was a month old)

Nothing here in good old NH yet

So what real proof do we have that this EP1W is even the final release?

imnuts said:
You can check for, and potentially even download an OTA update when on a custom ROM, however, you won't be able to actually apply it. It checks literally every file to make sure it hasn't been modified, and if any file is missing or changed, it will fail to update.
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Yup, which is why I can't update my Galaxy Tab.

d-loko said:
So what real proof do we have that this EP1W is even the final release?
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My thought is that this is not the release that Verizon will be rolling out. The "official" designation is something that the dev guys put on it, saying its their official release.
There are some strange things in the UI that make me think this isn't an RC. Also, the timing of it is odd, since the devs have had it in their possession for so long.

bluevolume said:
My thought is that this is not the release that Verizon will be rolling out. The "official" designation is something that the dev guys put on it, saying its their official release.
There are some strange things in the UI that make me think this isn't an RC. Also, the timing of it is odd, since the devs have had it in their possession for so long.
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Let me correct you both,
I do not label things, if it is labled as official and OTA by samsung, then I will state it is official. If that changes over time I will state that as well. You assumption that I just randomly give titles to this is very incorrect.
As to your second point, we always have things in our possesion long before releasing to the general public. That is not an indicator of squat.

EP3 Released on the TeamBlackHat app!

P3Droid has EP3 Released on the TeamBlackHat app! I'm downloading now! I hope it goes well!

Same here...trying to see what the changes are?
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Where did you download the app from
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BlackHoleSlam said:
Where did you download the app from
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You have to pay to download the app from the Team Black Hat website. New leaks from TBH are exclusive to paid supporters through the app for about 48 hours before general release.

or somebody with the app can dl then upload it here tonight its a official leak and p3 didnt create it. so he really has no rights to it thous making it suitable for anybody to re-upload.....just saying. why wait?

i really hate that it's no longer on the marketplace. bought the app way back on my droid x, and now that my credit card got cancelled i'm always out of luck on new releases. :l

I'm thinking of trying this out tonight.
~John

So does anyone know what the differences are between EP1W and EP3?
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Undzis said:
or somebody with the app can dl then upload it here tonight its a official leak and p3 didnt create it. so he really has no rights to it thous making it suitable for anybody to re-upload.....just saying. why wait?[/QUOT. All I can say is wow and you see nothing wrong with this statement
SENT FROM THE DOG POUND
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To anyone that installed EP3:
Does EP3 have new radios? The EP1W has better signals, but I get that "data dropping" issue that people have been complaining about since this phone was released. I never got that on the EE4 radio.

Everyone hold your horses. Imnuts has a copy that came from another source and he tweeted if you wait until tomorrow he will have infinityrom with the ep3 base. Much worth the wait instead of getting it stock.
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Undzis said:
or somebody with the app can dl then upload it here tonight its a official leak and p3 didnt create it. so he really has no rights to it thous making it suitable for anybody to re-upload.....just saying. why wait?
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cujo6801 said:
All I can say is wow and you see nothing wrong with this statement
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no actually i don't see anything wrong with this statement. but I am a bit surprised you do. So you are saying you see nothing wrong with somebody profiting from somebody else work that in reality its work they stole? we can call it a "leak" but none of us actually own it. We didn't create it. So by taking it, we stole it. No different then dl a "leak" movie work print. except p3 is charging for ppl to dl it a little early. Personally i think its a despicable practice but that's my 2 cents.
Look at it this way. Devs pass out custom roms that they work very hard to give us. They often pass them around irc for testing purposes. So lets say Imnuts or team gummy gives you a copy of their newest rom for you to test. You in return upload it to another server and charge ppl to dl early befor they release it. P3 is doing the same exact thing. You see nothing wrong with that?

Man these things come out fast. I'm just gonna stay on my Gummy 2.0 until the Nexus Prime is released and get rid of this phone.

Undzis said:
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no actually i don't see anything wrong with this statement. but I am a bit surprised you do. So you are saying you see nothing wrong with somebody profiting from somebody else work that in reality its work they stole? we can call it a "leak" but none of us actually own it. We didn't create it. So by taking it, we stole it. No different then dl a "leak" movie work print. except p3 is charging for ppl to dl it a little early. Personally i think its a despicable practice but that's my 2 cents.
Look at it this way. Devs pass out custom roms that they work very hard to give us. They often pass them around irc for testing purposes. So lets say Imnuts or team gummy gives you a copy of their newest rom for you to test. You in return upload it to another server and charge ppl to dl early befor they release it. P3 is doing the same exact thing. You see nothing wrong with that?
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Gotta say, I totally 100% agree with you. I hope more people in the future can get it from other sources.

Odin install or CWM?
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Undzis said:
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no actually i don't see anything wrong with this statement. but I am a bit surprised you do. So you are saying you see nothing wrong with somebody profiting from somebody else work that in reality its work they stole? we can call it a "leak" but none of us actually own it. We didn't create it. So by taking it, we stole it. No different then dl a "leak" movie work print. except p3 is charging for ppl to dl it a little early. Personally i think its a despicable practice but that's my 2 cents.
Look at it this way. Devs pass out custom roms that they work very hard to give us. They often pass them around irc for testing purposes. So lets say Imnuts or team gummy gives you a copy of their newest rom for you to test. You in return upload it to another server and charge ppl to dl early befor they release it. P3 is doing the same exact thing. You see nothing wrong with that?
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what I'm saying is it sound like your saying to wrongs make a right...your saying.he's wrong for doing it... so its ok break your agreement with him(by buying his app)....ect

Undzis said:
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no actually i don't see anything wrong with this statement. but I am a bit surprised you do. So you are saying you see nothing wrong with somebody profiting from somebody else work that in reality its work they stole? we can call it a "leak" but none of us actually own it. We didn't create it. So by taking it, we stole it. No different then dl a "leak" movie work print. except p3 is charging for ppl to dl it a little early. Personally i think its a despicable practice but that's my 2 cents.
Look at it this way. Devs pass out custom roms that they work very hard to give us. They often pass them around irc for testing purposes. So lets say Imnuts or team gummy gives you a copy of their newest rom for you to test. You in return upload it to another server and charge ppl to dl early befor they release it. P3 is doing the same exact thing. You see nothing wrong with that?
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Yep, we had this argument with most of the Charge users a few months back and it was like 60% in favor of it being bull$hit that P3 profits from stolen leaks. I personally don't agree with his tactics but we already had this huge discussion which ended pretty badly and abruptly. He got the favor in the end because he threatened everyone that he would stop giving us these leaks.

don't get me wrong I'm not saying P3 right or wrong....just saying too wrongs don't make it right...that's my point....

I just hope that nobody here is stupid enough to buy the app simply for early access to this leak. Aside from providing a leak a few hours earlier than the general public, the app is abso-****ing-lutely useless. Its an app that you buy solely for the purpose of obtaining the latest software for your phone? As the site says, the software provided is "sometimes leaked." So thats basically saying that they'll give you what you get from buying your phone or after receiving ota updates anyway, for a small fee of 2.99. And after looking at the site, its clear that team blackhat is just after a few bucks, and instead of making that money like most good devs do (by producing roms/mods/kernels/apps, and relying on donations made to support their work, or by selling useful apps on an app market), they try to dupe you out of a few bucks by offering you what you already have access to simply by coming here or going to other popular android forums. Or they'll unlock your droid pro or droid 2 global for 100 dollars, and for an extra 25 bucks, they'll even provide the shipping! Wow!
Don't buy the app for this leak. Wait a few hours and get it for free. Or wait a few hours more, and get a custom rom all tweaked up and debloated for free.

Is EP3 the 2.3.5 leak?
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