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Hi Guys,
I've been hearing about lots of problems with the GPS not picking up low SNR satellites and the GPS being wildly inaccurate on the samsung vibrant and also the euro variants of the galaxy s.
Does the captivate have the same issue?
Its true. I bought it on sunday an notice that issue. Hope there will be a update(Bug fix) soon.
Compare to my G1, the Captivate take about the same time to lock and GPStest says the SNR is better. I'm happy with it.
MFister said:
Hi Guys,
I've been hearing about lots of problems with the GPS not picking up low SNR satellites and the GPS being wildly inaccurate on the samsung vibrant and also the euro variants of the galaxy s.
Does the captivate have the same issue?
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Define Wildly inaccurate. On my Captivate it is dead on (within 9 feet)
I am having major problems with GPS. I am getting a lock but only within 50-75 feet. It isn't good at all. The GPS is slow to update and throws me everywhere.
I amthinking of returning the phone if Samsung doesn't make an announcement about s fix for this.
dial this from your phone:
*#*#1472365#*#*
Change startup from hot to cold.....worked for me. GPS locks much much faster
What are the settings on your phone Citznfish? My phone is off by anywhere from 100-500ft. Thanks!
Ok, I tried it again... In the house I'm about 500 ft off from where I really am and placed in a golf fairway. Outside I am FURTHER off: I'd estimate at least 5 blocks and placed in the middle of a different golf fairway. For comparision sake, my wife's iPhone 3Gs has her within 10-20' while inside the house. To me, this is unacceptable and a great cause for concern. What can I do???
Smalls2 said:
dial this from your phone:
*#*#1472365#*#*
Change startup from hot to cold.....worked for me. GPS locks much much faster
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I'm having the same problem here. My iPhone 3GS GPS responded way quicker then this phone does. I have a Weather Channel widget up, and it doesn't find the location to display the weather for a good minute and a half after. Same goes for using Google Maps to find my location. Lot of times it says, "Your location is unavailable." I even tried switching the startup from hot to cold, and that didn't have much effect either.
When I was driving today, the GPS locator had a bad lag in it, I would be down two blocks before it would catch up, and I live in a 3G area, and not a giant city like NY or something.
I wonder if it's because it's so bloated with Samsung UI on it, or if it's just the a bug. Either way, if I'm still having issues with it, I'll see if AT&T will exchange it out for a different one. Otherwise back to the 3GS, which I really don't want to do since I'm loving Android right now.
What does hot start and cold start do?
skizzz said:
What does hot start and cold start do?
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Hot Start - The GPS receiver remembers its last calculated position and which satellites were in view, the almanac used, and the UTC Time. It then performs a reset and attempts to acquire satellites and calculate a new position based upon the previous information.
Cold Start - The GPS receiver dumps all information and resets. It then attempts to locate satellites and then calculate a GPS lock. This takes the longest because there is no known information. The GPS receiver has to attempt to lock a satellite signal from all of the satellites, basically like polling, which takes a lot longer than knowing which satellites to look for.
Danm a cold start sounds like it would be slower. I tried it and I still can't get a lock within a reasonable range.
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I've been reading online that the Galaxy S got a firmware update that greatly improved/fixed the GPS problems we are experiencing. I can only assume that we will have to wait as well for this firmware to completely fix the gps issue.
Try the fix/workaround in the Vibrant forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728611
I went from seeing 1 satellite and none locked to 7-10 seen and 5-7 locked.
tbae2 said:
I've been reading online that the Galaxy S got a firmware update that greatly improved/fixed the GPS problems we are experiencing. I can only assume that we will have to wait as well for this firmware to completely fix the gps issue.
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Where did you read this? I've been looking for something like this, preferably from Samsung.
i havent had too many problems with GPS here
Google maps usually locks me in a few seconds
Third party applications can take much longer, however
The problem might be the way the third party apps utilize the GPS
lyu370 said:
Try the fix/workaround in the Vibrant forum.
I went from seeing 1 satellite and none locked to 7-10 seen and 5-7 locked.
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Actually that isn't a fix at all. It makes locking onto satellites much faster, but nothing to address the sensitivity issues, and there is definitely an issue. I 'found' 9 satellites, but could only lock onto two of them, for a few seconds at a time, then back to zero, out in the open.
Hopefully a software fix is on the way.
Source: /showthread.php?t=728611&page=5
This fix did help me so now i get a quick lock...as ling as i dint start moving around. It stays close enough to exact to use for driving around but not more accurate than that. The problem isn't really getting a lock so much as keeping it.
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tdusen said:
Compare to my G1, the Captivate take about the same time to lock and GPStest says the SNR is better. I'm happy with it.
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Well, I change my mind. While what I said still stands, I've since found that the GPS and the Compass don't track very well. I tried find a geocache using the same GeOrg software I use on my G1. The location seemed to be stuck as I was walking. From my experience with the Tilt, I'd say the GPS is running in "Static Navigation"
The clock is ticking, GPS has to be fixed in 28 days, or the phone gets returned.
lyu370 said:
Try the fix/workaround in the Vibrant forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728611
I went from seeing 1 satellite and none locked to 7-10 seen and 5-7 locked.
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I was having problems w/ GPS on my phone as well. Would be way off in Google Maps, Navigator took forever to lock, and geo-tagging photos was also way off. I did something similar - dialed the code to get to the GPS settings. However, all I did was turn Skyhook to ON and switched configuration from manual to auto. I don't seem to have any problems between yesterday and today. It locks incredibly quick and is very very accurate.
Some of you should try this method and see if it helps with anything. Good luck.
Hello All,
New to Android. Feel good to be part of the revolution!
I have read many posts concerning the GPS issues in the Captivate. Is there a third party app that works for GPS on the Captivate?
GPS will be one of the main reasons I purchase the Captivate next week. It is a must app for us as thats all we do now is travel. Our BB is great with Google Maps.
Thanks
From what I have picked up, it's a problem in the drivers and firmware, so the GPS won't work for any other applications. I have been told by other people that Samsung is aware of this issue and is working on a fix.
Now if that fix will be released anytime soon is a different story...
Google Maps Navigation is working perfectly for me. I must be lucky, I've seen none of the GPS issues reported thus far.
It sounds like a problem with some and not all devices. For instance, my GPS works extremely well, pinpointing me within 20 meters even while inside my apartment on the ground floor. For other they could be in the middle of an empty parking lot with full reception, and not be able to lock a single GPS satellite.
not to sound like i'm bragging, because my GPS locks perfectly fine in under 10 sec (usually around 4-5 sec), but what are the issues that every seems to be having with GPS? is it not finding a lock? is it not putting your location in the correct place?
all i'm seeing are threads with GPS fixes and whatnot... but i don't recal seeing what the issues were.
thanks
Lucke said:
not to sound like i'm bragging, because my GPS locks perfectly fine in under 10 sec (usually around 4-5 sec), but what are the issues that every seems to be having with GPS? is it not finding a lock? is it not putting your location in the correct place?
all i'm seeing are threads with GPS fixes and whatnot... but i don't recal seeing what the issues were.
thanks
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There are problems and non-problems for every aspect of the GPS.
People like you get a fix in under 10 seconds with no problems.
People like me get a fix within a minute with no problem
People who can't get a fix unless they are in the middle of an open field after a few minutes
People who can't get a fix period
People who can see satellites in GPS test, but can't connect to them
and people who can connect, but end up miles off of their true location.
I suspect that the underlying factor may be location in the US coupled with the cell phone radio (depending on obstacles, some people will be on different bands, and that may affect downloading GPS updates), because all cell phones should have the same factory defaults. The factory defaults work for me, but not with other people.
And then there are people like me, who one day, the GPS would lock on within seconds, have a perfectly accurate location, and work flawlessly. Then the next morning (when the phone had only been on charge overnight, not dead, not off, not anything) could drive for two hours in the middle of the prairie and not get a lock all day.
When mine worked, it was perfect. When it didn't, it acted like all the satellites fell out of the sky. There was NOTHING I was doing different.
Lucke said:
not to sound like i'm bragging, because my GPS locks perfectly fine in under 10 sec (usually around 4-5 sec), but what are the issues that every seems to be having with GPS? is it not finding a lock? is it not putting your location in the correct place?
all i'm seeing are threads with GPS fixes and whatnot... but i don't recal seeing what the issues were.
thanks
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i'm in your boat, mine's been flawless since day one on both my captivates. (had to return one). I think location is the biggest factor here. I know two phones isn't enough to show a strong correlation, but its something.
when i say location is the biggest factor, i mean its what separates our experience from others who have sucky gps. Samsung still needs to fix the gps issues so everyone can have a positive experience .
thanks for explaining, and summing up, the GPS issues.
I've had the NS (i9023 on stock 2.3.3) for a few days now and I must say I'm generally rather impressed ... if only the GPS and other location sources didn't suck so much.
GPS (outside, on my top floor balcony):
With mobile data and wifi on it more often than not won't get a lock for tens of minutes, if at all. Even if it has a lock it'll lose it every few seconds. With both off it's actually somewhat usable - takes a while, the accuracy isn't too good (10 m does seem to be the best it can do), and the lock's rather erratic, but still, better than nothing. Makes the thing bloody useless for navigation, though.
For comparison: A Galaxy S (i9000 on stock 2.2.1) locks within 3-10 seconds, gets about a third more satellites and gives me 10-5 m accuracy. Almost no fluctuation in either accuracy or number of sats. A Desire S locks as fast if not faster and shows 8-3 m accuracy even, even though it generally shows the fewest sats.
Wifi- and/or cell-based location (indoors)
Even my trusty old i5700 (Galaxy Spica) puts me within 100-20 m of my true location even when GPS is disabled, using just cell towers, or that and wifi. Even more importantly, it gauges the accuracy correctly, that is, I'm always within the blue circle.
The Nexus S (and, to be fair, the Desire S) on the other hand puts me in a 1000-400 m circle - and I'm not even near that, it's a couple of kilometers off. What's with that?
Compass
Well, it's not strictly about location and the horse has been beaten to death but it still needs to be said: It doesn't work. At all. Instead it spins wildly, even when the phone's perfectly stationary.
On to the questions:
Is this a sw bug, a hw bug or just a defective unit?
If it is a sw bug, is there anything known about the eta of an incoming hot fix?
Are there any known workarounds?
I really hope there's a solution to this because I really like the thing generally.
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roughly the same here.
Same problem. We need help.
Enviado desde mi Nexus S usando Tapatalk
Yes .. I just don't know if I should return it over this issue or not, and I'm running out of time as today's the last opportunity.
Does anyone know if the GPS, network location and/or compass work flawlessly under CM7? That would at least tell us that a fix is possible.
yep, and i'm guessing as it's on stock it's not a software issue. it's a major issue for me as i want to dev augmented reality stuff and having the visual jump around when you're stood still is not cool.
Same thing here. Acquiring a lock can sometimes take forever. I think it's Samsung's crappy hardware, so we may all be stuck.
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I am also facing the same problem with my SNS here in Bangladesh.
Peculiarly the sets gets location data using Cell tower in some areas while it doesn't in many of the areas. As for example, I dint find any problem in checking in Facebook places ot Google Place in my Work.
But have never been able to do the same same in my Home. :-S !
This flaw is giving some hard time.
Is it bcz I've rooted my SNS and using CM7 ?
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i'm guessing as it's on stock it's not a software issue.
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That's dire news ... You'd think with all the problems the SGS's GPS had and all the attention the early reviews of the NS gave to the issue someone would have spotted it - yet most were quite positive the GPS was fine.
Unfortunately reports on this and other forums are very mixed on the question if and when the NS GPS started acting up.
I guess I'll just have to send it back for now, after all I can always get another one if there's an update that fixes GPS and the rest of the location providers.
like i said in my own thread: exactly the same problems. really sucks. especially GPS and Compass are pissing me off, really doesn't work at all..
bought this new phone and expected a perfect device but got a device full of bugs, i even had a HW problem and had to give it to the support here..i thought i have a completly defective device but since others got this problems i have a little more hope.
and i really hope for a fix soon and really hope this is a SW and no HW bug.
Has anyone with a sucky GPS tried this trick (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043034) or a similar one on the Nexus S?
I haven't had any issues with my GPS, however sometimes it may take 30sec-1min to find a solid signal. My experiences have been with stock rom and also SupeAosp 6.2 (which I'm currently using).
Thread title pretty much says it all: Did 2.3.4 fix your GPS (and other location-related) issues?
Please also reply with your answer and exact phone model, including open/branded, country and carrier.
Yes.
The compass is now always right, not randomly out and unresponsive.
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Yes, I now always get a GPS lock within few secs unlike earlier when it takes forever or sometimes just doesn't work at all.
Also my location related issue where my phone thinks I'm somewhere in India, Mauritius or sometimes Russia is now fixed. Since I got 2.3.4 i never encountered that issue. So I'm happy
I have a Nexus S (AWS version) with Wind Mobile in Canada.
Navigation can never get a lock, usless!!! 2.3.4 i9023
Indoor GPS reception (like just beside the window) is extremely poor (~120 seconds to first fix compared to 10 seconds for Nexus One).
Outdoor GPS reception depends on the mood of the Nexus S. Sometimes it takes less than 15 seconds, other times it never gets a fix. No such issues on my Nexus One; less that 10 seconds to first fix 99% of the time.
i didn't use any GPS related stuff before i updated to 2.3.4, so i really can't say, if it has been bad before.
right now i used the navigation software and got a lock within seconds..
no problems at all.. I9023.
Yes. Used to take several minutes to get gps lock.
i9023
I definitely can't get a lock indoor, is my GPS chip defective ? In the same room my iPhone can locate me with GPS on ...
Outdoor I can get a signal within 30 seconds but is it normal not to be able to locate me in my own apartment ?
Bls440 said:
is it normal not to be able to locate me in my own apartment ?
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Normal for GPS, yes. Network location (via wifi/cell towers) should still work, though.
Thanks for your answer. But I can see that a lot of users manage to get a lock indoors. Some youtube videos testify this aswell (and it is gps geolocalisation, not cell towers). Also, my iPhone can locate me in the same room using gps within seconds ...
Gps sensitivity varies between devices and Nexus doesn't seem to be very sensitive. Regardless of that, the GPS was never meant to be used indoors so, while you maybe be able to compare sensitivity it's not a good way to test the GPS.
GPS has always locked in around 15-20s for me.
It's not about locking speed, it's mostly about accuracy and stability, or lack of it.
Same with 2.3.3 - sometimes it get fix in 15 second, sometimes 2-3 minutes. If I use Navigon, it runs, but randomly looses signal - then it seems to get fix, but with wrong position (sometimes 4-500 meters away from the real pos...) On highways it works perfect for hours, but if I go in town it looses signal between buildings /under trees. I hope google can fix it, seems like it just holds the minimum amount of satelites to get position (but why, battery saving?), and if something hides 1-2 sats is looses fix till it finds another one. It might be good with correct gps and shorter battery time...
i never get a lock with gps since 2.3.1 ... and compass is totally ****ed up does not work at all and after reboot it just stands still, this sucks and I need Google to fix this crap!
I too have an issue with 2.3.4 NS4G on Sprint. The GPS usually doesn't lock, or, if it does, takes several minutes to do so. I have turned network location off to solely rely on the GPS radio to no avail.
Is there a fix for this?