I screwed up and restored system data from titanium back up the other day, now I'm not receiving any calls (as some of you have heard) so I'm guessing I have to go back to stock and start over. I'm not quite sure how to do that. I have Odin on my pc at home but it was to unbrick my captivate. Any advise would be great.
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The ultimate unbrick thread in development is all you need. Has the software and detailed instructions.
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You can also use this, works for me everytime, you can choose between 100% stock or stock with root + 3e recovery, its pretty sweet!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092021
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OK, looks like both suggestions are about the same besides that one allows you to stay rooted. Ill download the tool when I get home. I have keis on my pc, is that all I need ( I installed it for my captivate, will these work for infuse?) Lastly, does the odin tool have all of the other files I may need?
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Technically, Odin won't really include any files outside of the files for Odin itself. The files you will need, in addition to Odin, will be those posted in the threads for the Ultimate Unbrick or the other threads that assist in reverting to stock. I personally would stick with one that allows you to retain root and the modded 3e Recovery so that you won't have to go through the process of regaining both of those. Kind of a kill 3 birds with 1 stone kind of deal. Kies itself is kind of irrelevant outside of providing the drivers for the infuse.
I'm pretty sure each thread has at least a minimal walk through of what you need to do. Honestly, I think it will be a breeze for you. There's nothing complicated about it.
Good luck.
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Technically, Odin won't really include any files outside of the files for Odin itself. The files you will need, in addition to Odin, will be those posted in the threads for the Ultimate Unbrick or the other threads that assist in reverting to stock. I personally would stick with one that allows you to retain root and the modded 3e Recovery so that you won't have to go through the process of regaining both of those. Kind of a kill 3 birds with 1 stone kind of deal. Kies itself is kind of irrelevant outside of providing the drivers for the infuse.
I'm pretty sure each thread has at least a minimal walk through of what you need to do. Honestly, I think it will be a breeze for you. There's nothing complicated about it.
Good luck.
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OK, but I'm still not sure about the files. The instructions for the link above state to choose the .tar.mds
file in the .zip and press start. I don't see anywhere to download these files which is why I figured Odin came with all nessessary files to revert back to stock or whatever.
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If you go to the link that dajeoo linked you to and scroll to the bottom of the first post. It has links to both of your options. Like I said before, I would suggest using the Root+3e option. After you download that, unzip the files into the Odin folder. At that point, you should open Odin and then click the "PDA" button and select the file within the Odin folder that you unzipped there. At that point, make sure your phone is off, hold down the volume buttons and then plug in the USB cable so that your phone goes into Download Mode. At this point, Odin should detect your phone and... start the fun.
It will take a few to finish, but at that point you should be back on stock and you can go from there with whatever option you so desire.
OK, ill be home in a few hours. Ill post if I have any issues. Thanks.
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why not clear all user data in recovery, then if needed reflash the rom? why make things harder than they are?
I suppose that could be an option as well, but is that going to clear out any damage that could have been caused by the restore from TB? I tend to think that there could still be issues that persist.
However, I would definitely suggest giving that a shot. It can't hurt anything. At the very least, it could conceivably shorten your downtime where you don't have to sit through the Odin flash and you maintain all of your current root and recovery setup.
Sorry for not suggesting that earlier. I just thought you were at a point of needing to restore completely.
Thanks for the input, Dani.
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I suppose that could be an option as well, but is that going to clear out any damage that could have been caused by the restore from TB? I tend to think that there could still be issues that persist.
However, I would definitely suggest giving that a shot. It can't hurt anything. At the very least, it could conceivably shorten your downtime where you don't have to sit through the Odin flash and you maintain all of your current root and recovery setup.
Sorry for not suggesting that earlier. I just thought you were at a point of needing to restore completely.
Thanks for the input, Dani.
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I just assumed id have to restore. There was a few other posts with a similar topics were restore was the fix. They had more problems than I'm having but ill definitely try the wipe and reflash
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OK. On my last phone I immediately started playing with ROMs and lost my 3 button recovery as well as the ability to get and use OTA updates.
While I'd like to play with the ROMS and such, I'd like the ability to restore it to where it is today. 100% stock ATT.
Is there some way to make an image or something of my exact phone that I can use with odin or something later to get it back EXACTLY like it is today?
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check out the forum sections. They have great video tutorials on how to rom. There is also a prog called odin3 which puts your phone back to stock.
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Actually Odin does not return to your stock. That's why many Captivates lost 3button recovery when they used Odin and phones recovered with Odin will no longer do OTA updates.
I would like to avoid those pit falls before changing ROMs.
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Msube answering my own question. Will clockwork recovery do the same as Odin, except get me back to where i am now?
Since I'll need to root/unroot, will my phone ba any different after the unroot than before the root?
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OK. On my last phone I immediately started playing with ROMs and lost my 3 button recovery as well as the ability to get and use OTA updates.
While I'd like to play with the ROMS and such, I'd like the ability to restore it to where it is today. 100% stock ATT.
Is there some way to make an image or something of my exact phone that I can use with odin or something later to get it back EXACTLY like it is today?
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Like a snapshot. I agree, would be nice
From my understanding odin will get you back completely to stock if you are trying to send the phone to at&t for repairs. I believe it is/made from leaks from at&t
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From my understanding odin will get you back completely to stock if you are trying to send the phone to at&t for repairs. I believe it is/made from leaks from at&t
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Nope. If it flashed completely to stock there would not have been all the phones that lost 3 button recovery after using it (apparently because it changed the sbl.bin file which is apparently NOT the same on all captivates). You also would be able to get OTA updates after using Odin, which once again, my phone and most others won't.
I suspect that there are minor differences between the software in various run of phones as new chips and programs were tried to correct issues. Odin is based on the software from ONE of these variations (maybe not even a Captivate). Odin will get you phone where you can use it and close enough to stock get it past the exchange flunkies, BUT IT IS NOT THE SAME AS WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR PHONE. At least not in all cases.
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So, is there some way to get it back to the default, out of the box, AT&T ROM?
I don't know. That's what my original question was. I had a phone dtraight out of the box. For that matter, even now I only have rooted so I could do a clockwock back up. I was looking for a way to make an exact copy of my phone thst I could put back on latr. If anyone knows how, apparently they don't want to share.
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So, is there some way to get it back to the default, out of the box, AT&T ROM?
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I'm also interested in this.
If you have root and a copy of busybox installed could you just. "dd if /dev/pathtocopy of /dev/pathtowrite" to create a drive image?
Can it be that straight forward?
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Nope. If it flashed completely to stock there would not have been all the phones that lost 3 button recovery after using it (apparently because it changed the sbl.bin file which is apparently NOT the same on all captivates). You also would be able to get OTA updates after using Odin, which once again, my phone and most others won't.
I suspect that there are minor differences between the software in various run of phones as new chips and programs were tried to correct issues. Odin is based on the software from ONE of these variations (maybe not even a Captivate). Odin will get you phone where you can use it and close enough to stock get it past the exchange flunkies, BUT IT IS NOT THE SAME AS WHEN YOU BOUGHT YOUR PHONE. At least not in all cases.
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Interesting. So ODIN is "like" stock. Kinda scary to know you can never go back!
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Interesting. So ODIN is "like" stock. Kinda scary to know you can never go back!
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Sort of odin is exasperating existing problems. The loss of the 3 button recovery is an issue with some builds. My build is among those but I have had no problems. As for the loss of kies support I imagine it is somehow related to the loss of 3 button recovery because I have been able to update after flashing to odin
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If you lost 3 button recovery you most likely flashed JF6 firmware. You have two options, flash JF6 with 3 button fix or flash a newer at&t firmware such as jh7. I'm Canadian so I don't know if it will work 100% but in my limited experience it will at least fix the 3 button combo not working. If I flash JF6 on my i896 I loose my 3 button recovery too unless I use one with a fix included. Also kies tells me there is an update available when I have JF6 installed with the 3 button fix. Search xda for the image or I can post link later.
Edit: The one click made by Disigngears doesn't work for me, I use the 512.pit file and JF6 with three button combo image file that you can get for odin3.
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Some people got 3 button back with the jh7 update. Some (myself included) didn't. Also Kies is not the same as OTA. You should be able to get updates without plugging your phone into the computer.
BUT, I was using that as an example. I would like to be able to return to what I am TODAY. I don't know what other changes are being made by Odin that may bite me later.
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If you lost 3 button recovery you most likely flashed JF6 firmware. You have two options, flash JF6 with 3 button fix or flash a newer at&t firmware such as jh7. I'm Canadian so I don't know if it will work 100% but in my limited experience it will at least fix the 3 button combo not working. If I flash JF6 on my i896 I loose my 3 button recovery too unless I use one with a fix included. Also kies tells me there is an update available when I have JF6 installed with the 3 button fix. Search xda for the image or I can post link later.
Edit: The one click made by Disigngears doesn't work for me, I use the 512.pit file and JF6 with three button combo image file that you can get for odin3.
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Well, corruption of IMEI was a problem with Odin too, but it's easy to restore if you are trying to unlock your phone. I guess you could do a nandroid back up and a rom manager backup and try using them together to restore to exactly what you have now. So far I haven't had any problems with flashing with Odin on a 1010 build, but OTA updates have been unusable, but they just bricked phones anyway. There is also a kies update available too. If you wanna be a test subject, try buying Root Explorer (well worth it) and copy all the files in the root of your system partition into a folder on an external sd card or something.
Hi, I've had the glorious captivate for a few weeks now and I constantly read this forum. I am now ready to flash my phone and while I am not really afraid to do it, since I used to flash my Nokia 5800 every week, I wonder what is it during the process of flashing and loading a new rom that can cause the phone to get bricked? Are some parts riskier than others? Is there some common mistake or error or something people usually forget that kills it?
I'd appreciate some answers, since I love my phone and would hate to brick it.
Thank you very much! XDA rules!
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Hi, I've had the glorious captivate for a few weeks now and I constantly read this forum. I am now ready to flash my phone and while I am not really afraid to do it, since I used to flash my Nokia 5800 every week, I wonder what is it during the process of flashing and loading a new rom that can cause the phone to get bricked? Are some parts riskier than others? Is there some common mistake or error or something people usually forget that kills it?
I'd appreciate some answers, since I love my phone and would hate to brick it.
Thank you very much! XDA rules!
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If you test the phone to make sure it can accept the button combinations to go into download mode (almost all do, except for a batch of faulty ones), there is almost nothing you can do that will truly "brick" the phone. A bad or interrupted flash will result in a boot loop, which you can recover from by forcing download mode, and using Odin to reflash back to stock.
Flashing the first and second bootloaders would be the most dangerous, which is why the Odin one-click flasher is so bad. Also, the USB connection is a prime source of failure which is another reason to avoid Odin. So, if you have working button combos you are pretty unlikely to brick the phone as long as you avoid unnecessarily using any version of Odin.
Note: DesignGears includes sbl.bin (the second bootloader) in his ROMs, but since you aren't flashing it via USB it's relatively safe and it does have the side-effect of fixing you button combos if they aren't working. On the other hand, if you aren't using the one-click then you probably already have a good sbl.bin and so it's not needed.
Basically what causes a brick in any electronic equipment is from an interruption/error in any boot critical files. The item does not have the proper/complete instruction to turn on. You could say it is like starting a car being told to first put the key in
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If you can use the 3 button combos to get into download or recovery mode, you are good to go. The only danger would be a bad Odin flash, but even so you'll have a chance to recover it by making a cheap USB jig (3 100k Ohm resistors into pins 3 and 4, I think, of the usb port) or buying one. This will boot the phone straight into Download mode.
When using Odin, there is only one stage where you can brick your phone for good, during the bootloader copy process, which probably takes less than a second.
Thanks for the replies! I just tried it and I got the 3 button into download mode combo, so that's great! Now, what other options do I have for flashing besides Odin? Apparently Odin is not the safest, huh? And is there a way to make the bootloader writing stage less risky?
Also, my Captivate is a 1007 build. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Thanks, again!
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rufex2001 said:
Thanks for the replies! I just tried it and I got the 3 button into download mode combo, so that's great! Now, what other options do I have for flashing besides Odin? Apparently Odin is not the safest, huh? And is there a way to make the bootloader writing stage less risky?
Also, my Captivate is a 1007 build. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Thanks, again!
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My Cappy is a 1007 build, too. I've soft bricked my phone more times than I can count, but Odin hasn't had anything to do with it. It can do it, though.
At one time in my life I flashed a new ROM every day, and I used Odin every time before I flashed.
On a side note, back when I flashed my first ROM, I pulled the battery during the first boot, dropped it, and then flashed another ROM without using Odin, and it never bricked it, so that should give you a good idea of how hard it is to brick these phones. Lol
Stupidity.
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opcow said:
Flashing the first and second bootloaders would be the most dangerous, which is why the Odin one-click flasher is so bad. Also, the USB connection is a prime source of failure which is another reason to avoid Odin. So, if you have working button combos you are pretty unlikely to brick the phone as long as you avoid unnecessarily using any version of Odin.
Note: DesignGears includes sbl.bin (the second bootloader) in his ROMs, but since you aren't flashing it via USB it's relatively safe and it does have the side-effect of fixing you button combos if they aren't working. On the other hand, if you aren't using the one-click then you probably already have a good sbl.bin and so it's not needed.
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I didn't realize Odin one click was so bad. I have been using Odin3 one click routinely now for a couple weeks as I flash back and forth trying out all these great ROMs to see what I like and so far (knock on wood I guess?) I haven't had any problems at all.
So, now that I have used Odin one click many times over, does my Cappy now have a bad sbl.bin?
No odin really is not that bad just don't unplug it while it is running. You would not want to unplug your computer when flashing a new bios
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Right, so if not Odin, what can I use for flashing? Can I do it all with the sdk using adb?
Also, I've been going through the guides and other stickies and apparently Odin is necessary only to flash back to stock. For rooting and installing new roms only the update.zip file and clockwork recovery are necessary. Could you do the same procedure to flash back to stock?
Sorry for any dumb or repeated question I may be asking.
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Pierce533 said:
I didn't realize Odin one click was so bad. I have been using Odin3 one click routinely now for a couple weeks as I flash back and forth trying out all these great ROMs to see what I like and so far (knock on wood I guess?) I haven't had any problems at all.
So, now that I have used Odin one click many times over, does my Cappy now have a bad sbl.bin?
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Odin isn't bad so much as an unnecessary risk. There are a lot of potential causes of failure: user error, accidents, flakey USB ports or software from other vendors that interferes with your drivers. The there the fact that people use the one-click and lose their button combos or brick their phone by using the one-click on a 1010+ build. I can safely odin flash all day if I need to, but there's just no reason to. And if you look around these forums you will see a lot of people crying after an odin mishap.
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Right, so if not Odin, what can I use for flashing? Can I do it all with the sdk using adb?
Also, I've been going through the guides and other stickies and apparently Odin is necessary only to flash back to stock. For rooting and installing new roms only the update.zip file and clockwork recovery are necessary. Could you do the same procedure to flash back to stock?
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I keep a CWM update.zip on my sdcard for reinstalling CWM and I flash my ROMs with CWM. I also keep a couple of spare know good ROM zips on the sdcard to go back to in case something goes wrong with a new install.
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Odin isn't bad so much as an unnecessary risk. There are a lot of potential causes of failure: user error, accidents, flakey USB ports or software from other vendors that interferes with your drivers. The there the fact that people use the one-click and lose their button combos or brick their phone by using the one-click on a 1010+ build. I can safely odin flash all day if I need to, but there's just no reason to. And if you look around these forums you will see a lot of people crying after an odin mishap.
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Thanks for the info. Is there a stock I897UCJF6 ROM that can be flashed with CWM? I haven't been able to find one and if there is one I would like to have one around to use. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.
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I keep a CWM update.zip on my sdcard for reinstalling CWM and I flash my ROMs with CWM. I also keep a couple of spare know good ROM zips on the sdcard to go back to in case something goes wrong with a new install.
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That is exactly the sort of thing I had in mind! So I guess I could keep a CWM update.zip and a stock rom update.zip and some custom roms and just do everything directly from the phone and without Odin, right? Or am I missing something?
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opcow said:
Odin isn't bad so much as an unnecessary risk. Then there the fact that people use the one-click and lose their button combos or brick their phone by using the one-click on a 1010+ build.
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Yep. I have build 1008 that has always had the 3-button combo and lost it after using ODIN 1-click (I restored the combo with a later flash).
I believe opcow and others when they say that flashing back to stock is unnecessary. I just don't understand why the authors of some of these ROMs leave this as part of their installation guide.
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Pay close attention to the options in recovery when you are using a custom rom. It's part of the custom kernal, and of used properly can help you avoid odin. I avoid it because I have a mac and odin won't run on anything but windows. Custom recovery will allow you to format every part of the OS but the sbl.bin. Also in some custom recoveries there is an option to mount usb. This will allow you to format the internal sd then copy a new rom.zip and flash if you really want a clean flash. If your doing this make sure you are able to mount your sd before you format anything. Avoid stock 2.2 kernals because they have 3e recovery. There are ways around that but they have to be in play before you end up in a bootloop.
3e recovery + bootloop= odin recovery "only option".
Make sure lag fix for rom kernal A understands lag fix for rom kernal B. Also usually only a concern for stock 2.2 kernal. Other than that really hard to brick this phone.
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As long as you keep a CWM update.zip and a ROM on your internel sdcard at all times, I see no reason why you would ever have to use odin 1-click.
I get bootloops all the time, just pull the battery and then use vol up + vol down + pow to enter recovery to flash the ROM back. Make sure it's a wipe ROM.
If it's not a soft-brick, then you will need odin.
ryude said:
As long as you keep a CWM update.zip and a ROM on your internel sdcard at all times, I see no reason why you would ever have to use odin 1-click.
I get bootloops all the time, just pull the battery and then use vol up + vol down + pow to enter recovery to flash the ROM back. Make sure it's a wipe ROM.
If it's not a soft-brick, then you will need odin.
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Could you please explain what a wipe ROM is? Thanks
ok first off great site, second i bought a used infuse off ebay and i love it. only thing is it was already updated to gingerbread uclb3 kernel 2.6.35.7. i have read it cant be rooted with superone click. i really want a custom rom on this thing and have no idea where to begin. can someone point me in the right direction on this custom rom thing. please.
cain308 said:
ok first off great site, second i bought a used infuse off ebay and i love it. only thing is it was already updated to gingerbread uclb3 kernel 2.6.35.7. i have read it cant be rooted with superone click. i really want a custom rom on this thing and have no idea where to begin. can someone point me in the right direction on this custom rom thing. please.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514886
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610374
Start there
ok read the first one and understood it pretty good , the 2nd link had alot of stuff in it that was a little confusing. this **** is way over my head. like i said i tried superone click on this stock gingerbread rom and it wouldnt get past step 7 so i guess i got alot more reading to do so i dont brick this thing.
Simplicity at it's best
The Infuse 4g is one of the simplest phone's to learn on in my book as far as rooting and changing rom's lot's of great rom's out there , If you really won't to get it done check out the Android Development section here on XDA for rooting , or How too it's pretty simple , you can even flash rooted rom's via Odin to save time in rooting it yourself , pretty easy , be glad to help ya out if ya need a few pointer's here and there , lot's of great people here on XDA that helped me out of the hard spot's , but good luck bro
thank you so much, i am gonna give it a shot this weekend. one question though i put a app backup on my phone so i wouldnt lose my cerberus app. after i do a wipe will i be able to get my app back. i know that sounds stupid but just curious.
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thank you so much, i am gonna give it a shot this weekend. one question though i put a app backup on my phone so i wouldnt lose my cerberus app. after i do a wipe will i be able to get my app back. i know that sounds stupid but just curious.
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btw if you are rooted you can install titanium backup free ver avail in the Google Play...it will back up your apps....there are lots of youtub vid on how to work the TiBu app for backing up apps.....
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You can read the ISET page it may be overwhelming but there is lots of information, and knowledge is good....start with the newbie info so you understand the lingo and info being provided...there are some many great ROM's in our threads.
I would not take the journey on putting ICS/CM9/AOKP till you get you feet settled in to knowing how to flash...start with some the great Gingerbread ROM's, we have custom and very custom ROM's, we have the stock look but still keeping the custom style...
Your choice and what you decide there is plenty of help in these threads, but don't be afraid to ask, but then ensure you have done some research and homework on your own...read, read and re read....
And if ya just cant figure it out, you can pm me...or post in my ISET thread ok,
see my signature for the {I S E T} page...
There are now a easiest way to root your phone which is odin a pre rooted room i find the odin ulb3+root+busybox+cwm to be this best. Only one odin and your done. Just wait for the robot lady to finish
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Correction...the easiest way to root your phone is using qksters heimdal package of entropys latest kernel...deletes nothing on the phone only replaces the kernel with a rooted one
Download it (look in ISET page)
Run program
Put phone in download mode
Press flash
Let it do its thing, your phone will reboot and you will be rooted with cwm recovery (used for flashing roms)
*download mode required for both Odin and heimdal*
How to get into download mode?
1) pull battery
2) place battery back in
3) press and hold volume button simultaneously-don't let go and don't touch power button
4) while holding volume keys plug your phone into PC with USB cord
5) you should now be in download mode
You should see either a yellow triangle that says downloading or an option to go to download mode or reboot
Also Odin requires drivers from kies heimdal does not...it uses its own drivers which it will install for you...
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mg2195 said:
Correction...the easiest way to root your phone is using qksters heimdal package of entropys latest kernel...deletes nothing on the phone only replaces the kernel with a rooted one
Download it (look in ISET page)
Run program
Put phone in download mode
Press flash
Let it do its thing, your phone will reboot and you will be rooted with cwm recovery (used for flashing roms)
*download mode required for both Odin and heimdal*
How to get into download mode?
1) pull battery
2) place battery back in
3) press and hold volume button simultaneously-don't let go and don't touch power button
4) while holding volume keys plug your phone into PC with USB cord
5) you should now be in download mode
You should see either a yellow triangle that says downloading or an option to go to download mode or reboot
Also Odin requires drivers from kies heimdal does not...it uses its own drivers which it will install for you...
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I had problems installing heimdall drivers at first . I find odin to be quick and easy for beginers
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I had problems installing heimdall drivers at first . I find odin to be quick and easy for beginers
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I think it really depends on the computer...out of the three in my house 1 works with Odin (windows vista)...the other one works with heimdal (xp) and the other works with both...(xp/Ubuntu, xp both Ubuntu heimdal only for obvious reasons...)
Basically the hard part about both is drivers...which ever is easiest for you to get drivers is what will be easiest for you....once drivers are installed its pretty much a click of a button...well a couple buttons for odin
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I think it really depends on the computer...out of the three in my house 1 works with Odin (windows vista)...the other one works with heimdal (xp) and the other works with both...(xp/Ubuntu, xp both Ubuntu heimdal only for obvious reasons...)
Basically the hard part about both is drivers...which ever is easiest for you to get drivers is what will be easiest for you....once drivers are installed its pretty much a click of a button...well a couple buttons for odin
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lol i see what you did there. couple more clicks beats putting your phone twice into download mode , 1 . flash rom and then 2. flash kernel ( to get cmw )
odin packs all that into 1 package ( well the newest one does ) when i had my infuse i flash roms each week so time is really important to me, me personally find odin 1 package to be very time consuming
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lol i see what you did there. couple more clicks beats putting your phone twice into download mode , 1 . flash rom and then 2. flash kernel ( to get cmw )
odin packs all that into 1 package ( well the newest one does ) when i had my infuse i flash roms each week so time is really important to me, me personally find odin 1 package to be very time consuming
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm arguing....
But if he's just trying to root then he only needs to flash kernel...nothing else...
However if he's bricked then sure Odin will be easier as its all in one...
Again I'm not trying to argue...well I guess technically I am lol, but I'm not trying to lol...how bout we leave it at this...whatever works best for you works best for you, and as long as it gets the job done who cares how you got it done
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Odin vs. Heimdall one click will always be a matter of preference. In my case, I prefer the Heimdall command line because it gives me more control. I used it when I made the rooted Odin packages. As for which is easier, qkster's sweet Heimdall one click packages or the rooted Odin packs - they're both just about as easy as it gets, because we've already done most of the work for you.
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mg2195 said:
But if he's just trying to root then he only needs to flash kernel...nothing else
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It involves a little more than just flashing a kernel to root UCLB3, but I know what you mean. See the more involved method at this link for how to do it.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24935969
The Heimdall one click packages, Odin packages, and dman's earlier CWM package just save people the work required to root UCLB3.
But you're right, they aren't "how" to root UCLB3. It's just already done for you.
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mg2195 said:
Sorry if it sounds like I'm arguing....
But if he's just trying to root then he only needs to flash kernel...nothing else...
However if he's bricked then sure Odin will be easier as its all in one...
Again I'm not trying to argue...well I guess technically I am lol, but I'm not trying to lol...how bout we leave it at this...whatever works best for you works best for you, and as long as it gets the job done who cares how you got it done
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the fun is ended.. lol i tough we might go even more, anyways we are not fighting,, flaming..just pointing out pros and cons
ok OP did you get your issues resolved so I can have this closed...any thing more needed to address to the OP....
phone up and running...good to go?
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ok OP did you get your issues resolved so I can have this closed...any thing more needed to address to the OP....
phone up and running...good to go?
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Bigjoe, looks like the OP was wanting advice on how to get UCLB3 rooted and ready to flash roms (CWM recovery, etc.). So far, other than the back and forth about who prefers one method over the other, it seems that this thread is on track to answer those questions. The good thing about the Infuse forum lately is that there are many ways to do things. To the OP: Get in there, explore the different methods and roms, and have fun. Good news is that it's really hard to brick this phone, so it's a good platform to try all that is out there. Bigjoe gave you a good start by pointing you to the ISET and Super Noobie Question thread.
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Bigjoe, looks like the OP was wanting advice on how to get UCLB3 rooted and ready to flash roms (CWM recovery, etc.). So far, other than the back and forth about who prefers one method over the other, it seems that this thread is on track to answer those questions. The good thing about the Infuse forum lately is that there are many ways to do things. To the OP: Get in there, explore the different methods and roms, and have fun. Good news is that it's really hard to brick this phone, so it's a good platform to try all that is out there. Bigjoe gave you a good start by pointing you to the ISET and Super Noobie Question thread.
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LOL, ya do the work I just point the way to them, when they are sitting at the intersection looking to find the way...LOL
thx for your work...ok we will see what the out come is for the op...
I gotz to get the BBQ going, before Momma wakes...LOL
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It involves a little more than just flashing a kernel to root UCLB3, but I know what you mean. See the more involved method at this link for how to do it.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24935969
The Heimdall one click packages, Odin packages, and dman's earlier CWM package just save people the work required to root UCLB3.
But you're right, they aren't "how" to root UCLB3. It's just already done for you.
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Lol duh...I was thinking about cwm recovery hahaha feel sooooo stupid lol
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Wow , XDA to the rescue you guy's rock , lol , as far as backed up app's in the infuse if you backed up to the external sdcard you should be able to just reinstall the back up program and your backed up app's should be there , but it doe's very deppending on what app you used to do your back up .
I have rooted and unlocked phone but when it reboots into recovery its not listing all the options that will allow me to flash cm 7 nor cm9. Any help to get past this hurdle would be great thanks
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Although I might be using the wrong recovery file if so direction the right one would be appreciated
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What does it say the recovery version is ?
The first would be recovery 3e no Sig and then I've tried the advice from an earlier post for the galaxy is9000 I do believe. I just dropped 3e and going to try again with simply the is9000
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OK- you are not rooted- you can go to post 2 here and get root and red cwm recovery - thanks to qkster and Entropy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524081
i thought that i might have been rooted since i can run diff rom managers, i do have super user access, titanium back up and a few others must have root apps. But i will try and thank you very much sir
If Titanium Backup asked for Superuser permission and you granted and TB did not say you are not rooted then you are correct, you are rooted. My answer still holds to go to post 2 to get the proper recovery.
Edit: + 10 on not using ROM Manager. (from Andros11 below)
Do not use Rom Manager. You can either flash Entropy's DD kernel to get red cwm recovery or look in the iset thread for gtg's guide for installing cwm, and use method 1 which requires you have the 3e modded recovery.
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ok ok for sure thank you very much i was wondering what i was doing wrong so i will take it all back to stock and start from scratch on this one here. But one more question i feel like there is an instability in the os so this what really prompted me to root this phone. The usb works at times, it turns on when it wants, it turns off and locks freezes completely when it wants, to turn it on i have to remove the battery put it back in then when the battery shows i have to plug in to the usb port for the computer to get it to start. Overall i do not know what my friend did to his phone but it's a night mare. have you heard of this occuring with anybody else sir?
But i have managed to unlock and get free wifi hotspot out of it smh
I like your approach, however it sounds like the problems may be related more to:
a : power button may be sticking
b: may have issues with usb connection, either on phone or on computer or both.
Before you go any further, make a backup of the current rom on the phone if possible.
Understood, i will flash the new CWM, back up then progress forward on that note. As for the usb i've used several and the one i am using right now is not registering where it did yesterday, and it is like a females emotions very fickle in nature. I will play with it a lil bit more to see if i can download via usb if not i'll use the sd-ms card to pick up the files and move forward at that point. Thank you very much sir you have been a big !!
UPDATE: I decided to get another phone through my insurance and received the same phone as of today (3-11-13) so thanks to everyone that helped me it was a greatly appreciated! Thank you very much next time I root I'll make sure to backup everything and pay really close to everything. Thank you all for helping.
Okay long story short my phone (Galaxy S 4G) is stuck on the screen where it shows a Phone, !, and a Computer. I did some research on the Internet and read something saying that this is an alternative Download Mode. Basically, what I am trying to do is Unroot my phone / revering back to stock, but did some dumb things to the point where I am stuck on this screen. I am currently using Odin to do all of this, but Odin doesn't recognize my phone for some odd reason because its been read before. So I did some research and read that I had to uninstall then reinstall some drivers then reboot my computer then do everything again. I did that, but Odin is still not recognizing my phone. I tried plugging my phone in all USB ports of my computer and its still not recognizing my phone. What do you think I should be doing? I definitely need some help and it would be greatly appreciated if any of you can help me.
Tried a different cable? Wiped data/factory reset?
It's in download mode, that's a good thing.
Which Odin version are you using? Samsung kies installed? You could try uninstalling kies/drivers & go heimdall one click.. search for lumin30's guide (it's sticked in forum). Mash thanks in his thread if it helps
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champ1919 said:
Tried a different cable? Wiped data/factory reset?
It's in download mode, that's a good thing.
Which Odin version are you using? Samsung kies installed? You could try uninstalling kies/drivers & go heimdall one click.. search for lumin30's guide (it's sticked in forum). Mash thanks in his thread if it helps
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Well, yes it's in Download mode, but the alternative one with the phone, !, and computer. Also I can't wipe/data factory reset unless theirs a way to get that if so let me know. The version of Odin I am using 1.7, so I tried v1.80 and the latest version which is 3.07. Yes, I have Kies installed with the drivers as well. I also looked into that heimdall one click, but there is too much stuff to do and download that my computer cant handle because it is really old so maybe if there is another way around this that would be helpful other than that I don't know what else to do.
Whatever you did that got it there... was perfect. If you had just flashed it once more when you got to that screen, your phone would have been working ever since.
Now? No clue what you've done with drivers and the like since back then. Try a one-click in a new USB port without installing any drivers?
Does the computer see the device and not Odin or do both see nothing (any beeps ?).
Are you doing the battery drop in while it's connected to the usb? Or booting it (into download mode) then plugging it into computer?
Which Rom are you trying to flash?
Windows should be able to do the one click. Which version (of Windows) are you using?
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Well, yes it's in Download mode, but the alternative one with the phone, !, and computer. Also I can't wipe/data factory reset unless theirs a way to get that if so let me know. The version of Odin I am using 1.7, so I tried v1.80 and the latest version which is 3.07. Yes, I have Kies installed with the drivers as well. I also looked into that heimdall one click, but there is too much stuff to do and download that my computer cant handle because it is really old so maybe if there is another way around this that would be helpful other than that I don't know what else to do.
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Look for Gremlin Remover in the dev section. It is an Odin One-Click.
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Look for Gremlin Remover in the dev section. It is an Odin One-Click.
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Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500427
Also try to delete ALL Samsung and Android drivers.
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Cooptx said:
Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500427
Also try to delete ALL Samsung and Android drivers.
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You need Samsung drivers for ODIN.
That pesky kies installs them.
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im just trying to get back to stock/unroot but i cant access anything on my phone it just takes me to that screen. when i plug my phone it just says on the bottom right corner of my computer screen that the usb device cant be recognized. thats why i asked if there is a way around all of this
ive tried all usb ports on my computer and i cant get my computer to recognize my phone.
Okay I will try this method...
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You need Samsung drivers for ODIN.
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I know. Uninstall it then download fresh ones. Or just plug your phone in again and let it download new drivers.
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Odin only recognizes your port only if you actually in the download mode; the one with the picture of the android robot and the word 'downloading.' Here is what you need to do:
1) open Odin program;
2) remove battery from your phone;
3) plug USB cable into computer and your phone;
4) press the up and down volume keys at the same time;
5) As you hold down the volume keys, put the battery back on the phone, and wait for about 3 seconds. You should be able to see the download robot. If it doesn't work, try it again.
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It's okay if just decided to get a new phone through my insurance it's fine no need for any of this anymore, but thanks to everyone that helped me. Next time I root my phone I make sure I back up everything that I need!
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Well, if you plan to root your new phone in future, you are going to run into this issue again. Backing up the data won't help you get out of this jam. My advice to you is to use your new phone as is; don't try to root or install customize roms <<<---that was a painful experience, but I've mastered the timing to the point it takes only one try now.
If you are a first timer, it is not easy to get into download mode. You have to do a couple of times to get a hang of it. It becomes an art form - just like getting into DFU mode on an iPhone for first time.
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gizmoscoop said:
Well, if you plan to root your new phone in future, you are going to run into this issue again. Backing up the data won't help you get out of this jam. My advice to you is to use your new phone as is; don't try to root or install customize roms.
If you are a first timer, it is not easy to get into download mode. You have to do a couple of times to get a hang of it. It becomes an art form - just like getting into DFU mode on an iPhone for first time.
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Or, think of the learning curve he can have with 2... lol
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I'm wondering why no one told OP to use Heimdall One Click back to stock KJ6...
Its really not that difficult dude! Its scarier than it really is . Trust when we tell you. Its gonna be more time consuming than anything else bout 2 maybe 3 hours ...this includes downloading, deleting, re downloading, connecting, disconnecting, "If u can get Odin to open and running on your old computer.You should be able to get Java, Bhundvens 1 click ..and Or Gremlin remover".!!! Kies is only good if you want the Samsung drivers once you've got your phone back to full fledge stock. If you want to save the $130 its gonna cost you for a phone through (Assurion)that in reality isn't worth buying again your better off using that towards a New phone trust me bro I'm no dev and don't speak they're language Lol (I wish) I personally know from frustrating trial and error! Believe that u can do it and when you do it you'll be like wow that's it!!! Just try being more cautious homez.
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I'm wondering why no one told OP to use Heimdall One Click back to stock KJ6...
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Actually, champ1919 told him that already. Scroll to first page.
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