[Q] [SOLVED] Do I have to root before changing the rom? - HTC Desire S

Hello guys. I have S-OFF but when I try to install the 4EXTRecovery or roms like virtuous unity or lbc mod with the original recovery the phone is telling me that these files aren't signed. From the sticky threads I understood that is not necessary to root before changing the rom.
Does somebody know how can I get an original unbranded european rom? I have vodafone branded rom and it is horrible.
Best regards.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506

webdo said:
Hello guys. I have S-OFF but when I try to install the 4EXTRecovery or roms like virtuous unity or lbc mod with the original recovery the phone is telling me that these files aren't signed. From the sticky threads I understood that is not necessary to root before changing the rom.
Does somebody know how can I get an original unbranded european rom? I have vodafone branded rom and it is horrible.
Best regards.
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You shouldn't have to be root if CWM installed.....Now I'm not 100% about this, but, rather than flash a Stock you could re-try having a go with a custom. But, first, go into Recovery, choose the Flash zip from SD menu and then select the option TOGGLE SIGNATURE VERIFICATION which should be set to disabled .
It does no harm selecting this option and should just echo the value its currently set to on screen and toggle it.
Then try flashing a custom (ie LBC ROM) fingers crossed. Let me know if that works?

Thank you so much guys. My DS is working like a charm with LBC MOD

webdo said:
Thank you so much guys. My DS is working like a charm with LBC MOD
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That's great news.... glad that I could help! You can't go wrong with LBC!! (in my opinion)
Although, once you have a safe Nandroid backup taken, you should flash some of the others in case you prefer them.
I'd recommend that you have another go at upgrading your recovery to EXT4 if you haven't already.

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[Q] Installing stock ROM

So ive alpharev'd my DS. Just wondering if anyone can help me with what to do next. Ive never normally had a problem before (rooted/goldcarded/custom ROM/stock ROM the HTC Hero/Desire and Desire HD before with no problems) but i cant seem to figure out where to go next with the DS. Im after installing a stock ROM woth no bloatware from any carriers.
Do i goldcard and then go for it or is there something else? I dont really want to just go for it and brick my phone.
Cheers all,
Si
Rather than instal a stock rom, why not instal a custom rom that's based on a the stock rom like LBC MOD?
this thread discusses the benefits of a custom over stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164418
All you'll need is clock work mod recovery which you may have already installed as post of the akpharevx process
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App
Its not that i dont see the benefits of a custom ROM, its just this one is going to be my mrs' phone and im pretty sure there's no way she'll ever need/use anything that a custom ROM has to offer. Which one would you recommend for someone in her shoes? Would need one that didnt overwhelm her with random stuff, in other words one thats more of a user experience than one thats good for dev's / tinkerers? Also, in the thread you posted above, it says you cant install OTA updates - not a bad thing but if i update a custom ROM will the phone have to be reset every time?
Cheers
Si
Ah, I see, although would still recommend LBC rom, it's stable & solid, fast, pretty, bug free and basically just improved stock.
In fact when my wife's contact is up at the end off this month, she's getting a DS and I'll be putting it on that.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App
Awesome thanks for that Is there anything else id need to do? Or is it literally just download LBC and go for it? o i need to get a radio or is it complete with one? (ive already done the cwm btw).
Si
chockyT said:
Awesome thanks for that Is there anything else id need to do? Or is it literally just download LBC and go for it? o i need to get a radio or is it complete with one? (ive already done the cwm btw).
Si
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I'm not sure if you're root yet? if you're not, then run ginger break v1.2.
I'd ensure that at this point after getting root that you take a full Nadndroid backup of your device using CWM recovery.
Then I'd replace your CWM recovery with the better EXT4 recovery, which is built on the same code base, but easier to use and has many more options. To do this simply download the ZIP file onto your SD card boot into recovery and select flash ZIP from SD.
Now for flashing the ROM.
I'd then look at the LBC ROM thread (although there is a lot of it, I'd suggest reading the entire thing). most of the information is in #1 and detailed guides are on LBC MOD site.
You;ll need to download from LBC MOD website both the ROM Itself v0.5.2 and the pre-WIPE ALL script, putting them both onto your SD card.
Then boot into recovery and first run the WIPE script from LBC which will create all ext4 partitions for you and WIPE ALL OF YOUR DATA in preparation for the clean install.
Lastly run the ROM ZIP which will eventaully boot a clean device.
You shouldn't need to flash a radio just yet (you can see from my signature which one I run)....everything should just work. Although there are RADIO install instructions and the actual downloads available on the LBC website.

[Q] How to revert back to stock rom?

So I posted on another thread that I am having issues with my 4g working on the new custom rom with T Mobile USA, after reading around some more I found out (not exactly sure about this) but that the custom rom (cyanogenmod) does not work well with t mobile sensation 4g.
I never backed up my stock rom, how do I revert back to it? do I just do a wipe? do I just do it like installing a custom rom but just point it to a stock rom?
Thanks guys.
doc2142 said:
So I posted on another thread that I am having issues with my 4g working on the new custom rom with T Mobile USA, after reading around some more I found out (not exactly sure about this) but that the custom rom (cyanogenmod) does not work well with t mobile sensation 4g.
I never backed up my stock rom, how do I revert back to it? do I just do a wipe? do I just do it like installing a custom rom but just point it to a stock rom?
Thanks guys.
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Wiping won't revert you to stock if you're already on a custom rom.
It just... wipes your phone. Stock roms install with a RUU executable, not a flashable zip like custom roms.
Follow this guide to write SUPERCID if you haven't done so. It lets you flash any rom that is carrier/region locked.
Then pick your choice of RUU from this thread and flash. These are all stock roms.
Remember to backup cause it will wipe everything.
kaof said:
Wiping won't revert you to stock if you're already on a custom rom.
It just... wipes your phone. Stock roms install with a RUU executable, not a flashable zip like custom roms.
Follow this guide to write SUPERCID if you haven't done so. It lets you flash any rom that is carrier/region locked.
Then pick your choice of RUU from this thread and flash. These are all stock roms.
Remember to backup cause it will wipe everything.
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Do I need to do the SUPERCID if I am flashing to TMOUS rom? since this phone came with out I don't need it right?
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Also to confirm on how to install the stock rom, I just put that into my root directory. Go to recovery, wipe everything, than install from sdcard correct? No need to do anything special?
doc2142 said:
Do I need to do the SUPERCID if I am flashing to TMOUS rom? since this phone came with out I don't need it right?
EDIT:
Also to confirm on how to install the stock rom, I just put that into my root directory. Go to recovery, wipe everything, than install from sdcard correct? No need to do anything special?
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You won't have to write SUPERCID if your phone came with TMOUS stock. It is highly recommended though, unless you are perfectly sure the RUU you download is the right one.
Download the relevant file to your PC, connect your device via USB and double-click the executable. You won't need to copy it to sd or go into recovery. It will do everything for you.
Word of warning. Do not, under ANY circumstances interrupt the RUU update process. You will brick the phone.
EDIT: Remember to check the MD5 before flashing
kaof said:
You won't have to write SUPERCID if your phone came with TMOUS stock. It is highly recommended though, unless you are perfectly sure the RUU you download is the right one.
Download the relevant file to your PC, connect your device via USB and double-click the executable. You won't need to copy it to sd or go into recovery. It will do everything for you.
Word of warning. Do not, under ANY circumstances interrupt the RUU update process. You will brick the phone.
EDIT: Remember to check the MD5 before flashing
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Awesome it worked. Also my 4g data works on stock firmware.
Does this mean the custom rom I installed (cyanogenmod) Wont work with my carrier?
I tried installing different radios it didn't work, though on stock rom it works perfectly.
Custom roms work fine with Tmous. The only difference is the 4g icon does not display.
It is the same in data speeds.
On Tmous stock Rom it constantly says 4g.
It will not switch the icon back and forth.
Bit it is switching internally.
There is no difference in the connection speeds at all.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Coredroid XE
lozonw said:
Custom roms work fine with Tmous. The only difference is the 4g icon does not display.
It is the same in data speeds.
On Tmous stock Rom it constantly says 4g.
It will not switch the icon back and forth.
Bit it is switching internally.
There is no difference in the connection speeds at all.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Coredroid XE
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That wasn't my problem, I had the H logo but I couldn't use the internet. I tried playing with apn and everything but no luck.
doc2142 said:
That wasn't my problem, I had the H logo but I couldn't use the internet. I tried playing with apn and everything but no luck.
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Ok. Go Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Download RUU_Pyramid_TMOUS_1.45.531.1_Radio_10.56.9035.00U_ 10.14.9035.01_M_release_208218_signed
With phone on start the RUU.
This will take you back to stock rom and stock S-off.
If I revert back to stock rom will I lose the unlock for the carrier?
jdawg2485 said:
If I revert back to stock rom will I lose the unlock for the carrier?
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Sim unlock once attained will be never lost again
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
ganeshp said:
Sim unlock once attained will be never lost again
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
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I can’t find the right ruu, why the hell r they labeled like that. My htc sensation is unlocked, what ruu do I need
Have a look at:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
I believe the TMOUS ones are the right ones for you.
3.32.xxx will give you ICS.
I've attached a file that is supposed to list the carrier/location codes used in the RUU names.

Looking for stock ICS rooted with..

sticky recovery. As above, just want plane stock, kernel, radio with root and clockwork to stick, can anyone hook me up? Cheers!
..
just flash this after you flash clockworkmod
Thanks guys, I know all of this already, I have clockwork installed, am rooted etc... I am just looking for a pre rooted stock rom which won't touch clockwork which I can just flash and done. I know there were a few in the dev section, but can't find any working download links for them, hoping someone has one of em saved. I have a i9023 btw. Thanks again.
Give the method by degiovab a try:
degiovab said:
May I suggest this rooting technique?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479831
Tested on my i9023 with stock ICS.
Main advantage is the fact the bootloader is left locked: so it's good if you want to remain with stock ROM but gain superuser rights in order to run root applications
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Won't matter what stock ROM you are on. Then flash or reflash cwm recovery, reboot to recovery and flash the above zip that Sean1984 posted.
kernels ; battery ; ROM ; gov/sched
Now with summaries in the first posts. Convenient for XDA app users!

[Q] [Question] Original HBOOT/RECOVERY to install offical update ?

A few month ago, I updated my wife's DesireS with a custom rom so she could have the Sense 3 before the official update.
I installed the clockwork recovery, but now I cannot install the official rom, because after the install's reboot, I'm in recovery and it doesn't flash the update.
Altought I have a EVO3D with KingCobra's 1.9 Rom, I'm not too familiar with HBOOT and RECOVERY, and I couldn't find an original Desire S recovery to allow the offical update.
Of course, I made some google searches, but I couldn't find how to solve this problem. Most replies tell to flash another rom, not the official. But my wife is my wife, and each time she has a problem, she tells me that it is because it is not an official (bug free?) ROM.
I tried to run a shipped rom from this thead : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 , but I fall in a boot loop, not able to enter recovery, no USB connection to flash with recoverymanager, and at a moment, I even thinked I bricked the phone.
Fortunately, I found the VolUP+Power several times, and I was able the re-flash the previous rom.
Can someone help me please.
Thank you.
@kitarolivier
Little unsure on what you are needing.
Do you 1) want to revert the phone to stock, i.e. as you first got it (s-on again/no custom recovery/not rooted) or 2) flash a stock ROM but the latest (still s-off/able to root/custom recovery installed).
Also you need to provide more info, like the current hboot, and what method you used to s-off, what was the software version when you s-offed, which RUU you tried. More info easier and more direct solution.
The thread you linked are RUU's to get the phone to point 1.
foX2delta : Thank you for reading and replying.
You are right : I want to revert it as i received it. My goal is to install last offical rom with the htc update in the settings.
I will post hboot version when I'll get hands on my wife's phone. I didn't expected a reply so soon
I installed a rooted rom (can remember which one) with rom manager.
Full information this evening (GMT+1).
@kitarolivier
How did you s-off the phone? Also do you know if the phone is a Europe unbranded device?
@foX2delta :
The phone is S-OFF
HBOOT 6.98.1002
It's an unbranded european phone.
Is this enough as information ?
You should be able to flash this eng hboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17481836&postcount=2 via fastboot, then you should be able to flash the stock rom that you tried to flash previously
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
Thank you for the answer. I'll check that tomorrow, because I'm not home today.
Regards,
Olivier.
@kitarolivier
Pretty easy fix.
Have a look at this guide I wrote here, follow section 2.
If you want to get the latest (2.3.5/sense 3.0) then use the 2.10.401.8 RUU.
Hello,
I find lots of helpfull contents here, especially in your guide @foX2delta.
I'm a bit interessted by the second method to get stock ROM "2) flash a stock ROM but the latest (still s-off/able to root/custom recovery installed)."
Is it possible to get the stock ROM and keep s-off and custom recovery ? Have you a guide about this ?
I know it's possible to get the ROM from RUU but how to install this rom.zip ?
thank you in advance, bye
ps: sry for my poor english
@LitonX
If your phone is s-off and you have a custom recovery then it is as easy and flashing a rom, see this thread for prerooted stock roms.
thx,
i get HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9_Prerooted_Deodexed (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480576). it's works fine.
I have a last one question. it is complicated to make my own flashable .zip from the "rom.zip" wich is obtained by RUU (start RUU and get rom.zip in %tmp%) ?
foX2delta said:
@kitarolivier
Pretty easy fix.
Have a look at this guide I wrote here, follow section 2.
If you want to get the latest (2.3.5/sense 3.0) then use the 2.10.401.8 RUU.
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I followed with success the section 2 of your tutorial. I also donwloaded in installed the ROM you suggested, and it was OK. After that, the device updated a few apps (FB, locations, etc...).
Many thanx for your help, and I will press the thanki button right now, so you are now at 33 I think.
Olivier.
@kitarolivier
Good stuff, glad it all worked out for you!!
hello.. i have same case to.. i want to get back to s-on..
i`ve tried all tips and trick, but it still didnt work...
could you give me some solution?..
sendietera said:
hello.. i have same case to.. i want to get back to s-on..
i`ve tried all tips and trick, but it still didnt work...
could you give me some solution?..
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Follow section 2 of post: http://androidforums.com/3405058-post1.html
Basically, you have to go through flashing the bootloader twice.

[Q] stock rom with s-off ? what i need to do?

hello and sorry for the same questions asked over the same issue...
its my first time and im afraid to brick my phone
anyway now im with custom rom and want to go back to stock to receive ota updates.
my phone is rooted and s-off i want to stay s-off with stock rom.
1. is it possible ?
2. will i need to wipe data before the flash?
3. backup needed ?
4. will i get ota updates with stock rom s-off?
5. the ruu is europe 1.47 do i need it to match to my software/radio/hboot?
my phone:
SAGA PVT SHIP S-off RL
HBOOT -0.98.0002
RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
EMMC-boot
@yonigo870
Since you want to stay s-off and a stock rom then....
1) Yes if you don't want need OTA. No if you want ota
2) Yes
3) If you want to restore your apps/data yes, google SHOULD be okay with contacts/calendar
4) Dont be silly, really, DONT TRY STOCK THINGS ON ALTERED PHONES, thats common sense (at least it should be)
5) You will not use a RUU, you wil use a pre rooted stock rom from the development forum
However, if you want to get ota updates you will need to go s-on and use a RUU, I suggest just getting the latest RUU
My suggesttion, rather leave your phone as is and install a stock pre rooted rom, you can always install the latest stock rom when the OTA is released and its made into a prerooted rom.
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@yonigo870
Since you want to stay s-off and a stock rom then....
1) Yes if you don't want need OTA. No if you want ota
2) Yes
3) If you want to restore your apps/data yes, google SHOULD be okay with contacts/calendar
4) Dont be silly, really, DONT TRY STOCK THINGS ON ALTERED PHONES, thats common sense (at least it should be)
5) You will not use a RUU, you wil use a pre rooted stock rom from the development forum
However, if you want to get ota updates you will need to go s-on and use a RUU, I suggest just getting the latest RUU
My suggesttion, rather leave your phone as is and install a stock pre rooted rom, you can always install the latest stock rom when the OTA is released and its made into a prerooted rom.
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@foX2delta i agree with you
@yonigo870 flashing a ruu can actually force you into a bootloop if you flash the wrong RUU the best wasy to get to stock is to flash a pre-rooted stock ROM
heres both links to the RUU and pre-rooted stock ROMs
RUU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
pre-rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183684
i hope i have helped
thanks
thanks for the help !
how do i flash pre rooted roms?
and witch one i need???
and the other thing is, if i want to flash one of the custom roms via rom manager how do i flash the updates ? will it be the same way? do i need to change anything else or i can just backup and flash rom?!
yonigo870 said:
thanks for the help !
how do i flash pre rooted roms?
and witch one i need???
and the other thing is, if i want to flash one of the custom roms via rom manager how do i flash the updates ? will it be the same way? do i need to change anything else or i can just backup and flash rom?!
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here is a few guides to help with that question i don't know anything about rom manager sorry i use 4ext touch recovery
Custom ROMS:
Custom roms can be found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1146601 or head to the development section.
(Most of these ROMs are pre-rooted, which means that you don't need to root your phone after flashing one of the custom ROM.)
How To: Flash Custom ROMs using Recovery (Method 1)
(You can use your default recovery from Revolutionary tool but I recommend using 4EXTRecovery)
1. Copy your custom ROM "zip" file to your SD card (Root directory).
2. Turn off your phone.
3. Turn on your phone by holding the power button and the volume down button together.
4. Once you see the white screen, choose "Recovery"
5. Make a full wipe/format and clear all cache.
6. Choose "install from sdcard/zip file" and then choose your Custom ROM zip file from your SD card to flash your Custom ROM.
Optional: If you want to use 4EXTRecovery, just flash it like you are flashing your custom ROM(Step 6). Just do it before you flash your new ROM.
How To: Flash Custom ROMs using ROM Manager (Method 2)
(This method might be easier for flashing ROM updates or add-ons)
1. Go to ROM Manager (You can install this software from the Android Market.)
2. If you want to use 4EXTRecovery, please follow steps below, and if you're not using 4EXTRecovery, please skip to step 6)
3. Press your phone's option's button and choose Manual Flash Override.
4. Press OK and choose your phone model.
5. Choose ClockworkMod 3.x (After these steps, your ROM Manager won't ask you to flash new recovery again when flashing new a ROM)
6. Reboot into Recovery and make a full wipe/format and clear all cache then reboot.
7. Now, from your ROM Manager, choose Install ROM from SD Card.
Note: Flashing ROMs can be vary, some custom ROMs may require you to flash some of their own file first. Eg, The LBC Mod ROM requires you to flash "WIPE zip file" before flashing the ROM. Read their instructions carefully to know more.
NOTE: I am not responsible for any faulty or bricked devices after S-OFF or flashing new ROMs. Do it at your own risk.
How To: Flash a ROM in a "Perfect" Way (Method 3 - Recommended)
A great guide from vampire36 for people who encounter the following problems:
1. The ROM you flashed gets stuck on HTC screen (bootloop) while the same ROM works right for others
2. You get the same kernel and radio yet you find your cell to have more battery drain than others
3. Finally some strange force closes and restarts but works perfect for others
So this is basically one of the most perfect way to flash a custom ROM and is a way to help people who face such issues.
Please head to : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1257731 to see full instructions and discussions.
Blush91 said:
@foX2delta i agree with you
@yonigo870 flashing a ruu can actually force you into a bootloop if you flash the wrong RUU the best wasy to get to stock is to flash a pre-rooted stock ROM
heres both links to the RUU and pre-rooted stock ROMs
RUU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
pre-rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183684
i hope i have helped
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You can enter a boot-loop but I've flashed ROMs too many times to remember (stock & MOD) and never truly boot-looped. You may soft-brick your phone however, but with remedy. Rooting phones & flashing ROMs isn't for the faint-hearted. My phone was dead for almost 48 hours (within 24 hours of purchase). That's how I joined XDA.
Scary. Turned out it wasn't hopeless. Within an hour of Temp Root, I had self-styled flashed CWM Recovery (haven't run into the gung-ho method I crafted yet, at least on these forums), proceeded to acquire Permanent Root afterwards and within the week had flashed 4 ROMs. Invented a few tricks myself .
Point is you have to get your hands dirty. That's why you bought the darn phone in the first place! Pull your gloves & get those hands dirty!
Saipro said:
You can enter a boot-loop but I've flashed ROMs too many times to remember (stock & MOD) and never truly boot-looped. You may soft-brick your phone however, but with remedy. Rooting phones & flashing ROMs isn't for the faint-hearted. My phone was dead for almost 48 hours (within 24 hours of purchase). That's how I joined XDA.
Scary. Turned out it wasn't hopeless. Within an hour of Temp Root, I had self-styled flashed CWM Recovery (haven't run into the gung-ho method I crafted yet, at least on these forums), proceeded to acquire Permanent Root and within the week had flashed 4 ROMs. Invented a few tricks myself .
Point is you have to get your hands dirty. That's why you bought the darn phone in the first place! Pull your gloves & get those hands dirty!
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yes i've flashed many roms also and have never encountered a boot-loop the only time i got a boot-loop was when i flashed the wrong RUU in the past 48 hours i've changed roms about 20 times
flashing pre rooted stock rom
in progress...
hope i wont fu*k my phone at the very first time im doing this
btw im doing that with rom manager
yonigo870 said:
in progress...
hope i wont fu*k my phone at the very first time im doing this
btw im doing that with rom manager
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Loooool don't worry that's what's xda is for were all here to help
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
no wifi
flashed Saga_Europe_2.10.401.8_heb made by dmatik
and no wifi !!! how to fix it ?
the other thing is that i cant connect to market ...
and how do i restore titanium backup if i cant find the program on my apps ?
the phone updates himself ??? i see it updates programs from the market without me doing anything
* do i need to reboot the phone after flashing rom ??? and how ?
yonigo870 said:
flashed Saga_Europe_2.10.401.8_heb made by dmatik
and no wifi !!! how to fix it ?
the other thing is that i cant connect to market ...
and how do i restore titanium backup if i cant find the program on my apps ?
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I don't know much about titanium I use app extractor try this ROM http://db.tt/Wnl7ZrKa
App extractor restores your apps contacts wifi settings SMS from your nandroid(backup)
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
many thanks for the help !!!!
do i need to reboot after flashing ?
Yeah reboot I hope you made a full wipe before flashing sorry should have told you earlier
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
yeah i did full wipe
after flashing rom the phone made updates from the market by himself, and now im restoring via titanium and seems like everything is ok...
after that titanium asked me to reboot, and so i did.
again thanks a lot for the support and for the help !!!!!!!!
problem !!! the rosie utility stopped unexpectedly...
htc widgets (like clock and weather) not working after restoring with titanium!
maybe its since the backup was on sense 2.1 and now its 3.0
how can make the htc widgets work ???
reboot back into recovery and fix permissions i dont know if you can do that in titanium
solved !!!
all was needed is to clear data from the htc sense

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