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[Q] Should I buy a TB out of contract?

I am really really sick of this Droid 2 that VZW replaced my Droid with. I'm sick of Moto services invading my phone and slowing it down. There's no true ASOP build. This phone sucks balls.
I was set on buying an Incredible 2 OoC b/c it was cheap at $440 and saving my upgrade till later, but where I'm moving to next week already has LTE towers.
Do I really want to wait 2 months using this laggy trash? And possibly end up getting a TB anyway because the other phones coming out suck.
Or do I want to get a TB and save my upgrade till later in the Q4 2011/Q1 2012 when NFC Ice Cream Sandwich phones come out.

Don't want a Charge, poor build material choices.
Don't want a Revolution. Bing...

Does it really matter? Not really... You just root and you can put whatever you want and however you want.
Motorola tends to lock their bootloaders and make it hard to do what you want.
Samsung stated that they'll never lock it that way(Not in those words, but given the sense that they will leave it open)
HTC has been locking down their devices, but not as tough as Motorola does.
So basically pick a device with the hardware you want, and make sure it's root and you can install custom roms/kernels.

The T-Bolt is a great phone, and it has excellent community support. I have absolutely no complaints about my phone (aside from the battery life).
That being said, the Galaxy S II that's coming out looks sexy as hell. It might be worth the wait to hold out for that. Honestly, it's totally up to you.
There was talk about tiered 4G plans, which is what made me opt for the early upgrade to the T-Bolt (hoping to be grandfathered in to unlimited 4G). I haven't heard much on that front, but it's still a possibility.

wait a few months
from everything i've ever read about samsung phones, their software support is absolutely horrible. slow updates, faulty gps etc. i've heard a ton of people complain about the issue, and it seems to be the case with all their phones... never had one, but that's the impression i get.
the thunderbolt is a decent phone, but all it really has over the droid x is 4g. the t-bolt screen might be a little better, but not much. in day to day use it's not faster, the battery isn't even close and the build quality of the DX is equal or better. if i were you i would pick up a DX on craigslist for $175 and save your upgrade for a few months. The dx has even more dev support than the T-bolt and it's the best phone I ever had.
bottom line is, if you really want 4g speeds right now, really really bad, then get the thunderbolt. if you can do without that for awhile i think you will be really happy with a DX, especially after using the Droid 2, and you'll spend less than half the money.
the above is just my .02.

Show me a HTC or Motorola phone with latest software on it
Not you fat Jesus

I bought mine off contract and am very happy I did it. Yes there are a few issues, but nothing a little root cant fix.
Though waiting a few months for a better phone won't hurt, the TB is a great choice.

00negative said:
Not you fat Jesus
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I just have to say that this cracks me up every time I see you post it.

Once you get a taste of 4G, you will never want a phone that is 3G only. So if you are moving to 4G area and don't want to pay full retail, I suggest you get a used Tbolt from craigslist and use it until something comes along that you like better, then sell the Tbolt

i love my TB, i have it rooted with das bamf NTE 1.6.3 and its about the coolest thing since MP3s.. as with others, the battery life on this thing is fkin AWFUL!! i have the extended battery and i still dont feel like its enough, however i use my phone probably more than i should or more than others. either way the LTE network is retarded fast and i'd never want 3g.

First off I just want to say I owned a droid 2 and it wasn't that bad. I jumped to the thunderbolt just to lock in the 4g rate. The bigger screen is a nice plus but other than that is the same thing. I wasn't overly impressed as other owners of the droid x and 2 have stated is not that big of a jump.
Before I end let me just say other than software wise android phones are exactly where I want them. I don't need a dual core chip in my phone and 4g is. good enough for anything I would ever want to do with my phone. I'm sure most of you will disagree but that's just how I feel. Flame away!
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I picked up a TB on craigslist for $350. The custom roms still seem a bit premature, however they should evolve over time. Nonetheless it's an amazing phone. If you have a desk job or spend a lot of time in your car, the battery life is not much of an issue. Just stay plugged in.

Got my TB off Craigslist for a fascinate trade plus 150$. I love it so far.. 4g is amazing..once you.have it you won't want to go back.
Roms are not bad. I'm waiting for a complete cm7 or sense 3.0 rom but other than that das bamf runs fantastic.
If you have the cash and want a great phone with a growing dev community, go for it.
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Thank you for all the input.
It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
I use over 2GB of data a month so the 4G unlimited (Hopefully grandfathered for life) makes it very tempting since my upgrade isn't till mid July which is around the time the rumors of tiered data plans landing. I'm also not to optimistic about an actual new phone coming out then. Maybe the SGSII but I really hate the fact that it doesnt have a search button. It's a damn Google phone and I use the search button all the time, for GOOGLE, not Bing!
I didn't even think about craigslist. That might be a good option.
As for a cheap DX. No way. It basically is a D2 minus the keyboard. I like the keyboard, I can sacrifice it for a 4G newish phone but not for an X. and I hate the Blur invasion, and locked bootloader. My D2 has been running custom roms. They're just too laggy and buggy still. Fab, Kejar, and Rummy are awesome, but they all had DXs and the D2 ports were just not good. Most of it I blame on Blur still having to be in there. I've been running GB stock blur and custom and for the first time since my D1 ADW launcher gets kicked out of memory and has to reload when I hit home.... I hate it.

EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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doomedromance said:
It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
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well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here

Balthazar B said:
EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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Honestly I never buy anything without having it in my hands first. Learned my lesson when eBay burned me not once but twice.
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Nexus to name just 1
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jackmei2 said:
well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here
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Haha it wasn't an iphone forum. they were android and droid forums.

Get the tbolt. You will not regret it.
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LG ... secretly discontinuing the g2x?

So ... just went on lg website and was confused why the g2x is no longer listed in the smart phone tab. In fact the only place its listed is when you click "all phones". Its weird because all other phones pale in comparison even the " new" revolution ( single core snapdragon) is like a total step backwards. Any thoughts why? Me personally, I love my g2x and will probably keep it for the length of my tmo contract.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "

It's still on the site though. That's a pretty wild assumption to make just because it's in a different category than you'd expect.

I highly doubt LG is secretly discontinuing their flagship phone a few months after launch.

I don't think they will discontinue their greatest phone.
Sent from my G2x

business is business, release it, let it stay in the limelight for a while then move it other so something else can get attention. All about the $$$

That has been like that for a while now. When I first went to LG's site to look at the phone back in mid May it was hard for me to find it on their site. I'm not sure why it is not listed in the Smartphone category unless it is just an oversight by those who manage the website.

Perfectly said. With the giant like Samsung Galaxy S II around the corner, once the SGSII is released it will age the current phones dramatically.
LG has to keep up with the times...particularly in the design department. You hold up the G2X against the HTC Sensation and even the SGSII (although it is simple it is very elegant) it makes the G2X look like grandpa.
It's all about the $
brett_day said:
business is business, release it, let it stay in the limelight for a while then move it other so something else can get attention. All about the $$$
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Personal preference I guess. Rather have my G2x over either of those.
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iunlock said:
Perfectly said. With the giant like Samsung Galaxy S II around the corner, once the SGSII is released it will age the current phones dramatically.
LG has to keep up with the times...particularly in the design department. You hold up the G2X against the HTC Sensation and even the SGSII (although it is simple it is very elegant) it makes the G2X look like grandpa.
It's all about the $
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What's so amazing about the SGSII that we don't currently have on the G2x?

hiko36 said:
What's so amazing about the SGSII that we don't currently have on the G2x?
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OC to 1.7 ghz.
Bigger screen.
I was thinking about grabbing a gs2 when it hits here. Depends on what the T-Mobile flavor ends up being (Hercules?) But only if its a significant difference between that and their international version.
Next phone I'm gonna end up getting is probably gonna have a quadcore. I think im future proofed enough.
@OP T-Mobile also took it off their website "Supply restraints." and there was also a leak from tmonews that it'd be going up in price to 300 on contract.
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mr.frankm said:
OC to 1.7 ghz.
Bigger screen.
I was thinking about grabbing a gs2 when it hits here. Depends on what the T-Mobile flavor ends up being (Hercules?) But only if its a significant difference between that and their international version.
Next phone I'm gonna end up getting is probably gonna have a quadcore. I think im future proofed enough.
@OP T-Mobile also took it off their website "Supply restraints." and there was also a leak from tmonews that it'd be going up in price to 300 on contract.
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...1.5 Ghz stable...up to 1.5 Phones Only for benchmarking

avetny said:
...1.5 Ghz stable...up to 1.5 Phones Only for benchmarking
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Antutu benchmark has 1.7 ghz gt-i9100's.
Oh and they have neon (?) - assumption.
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If anyone thinks LG won't drop support of their flagship phone, you should look at what they did with the Expo (Monaco) when it was released.

I checked their website. It flashes the G2X when you open their Smartphone screen, then disappears. If you go to All Phones - it is there.
Maybe they are trying to tell buyers it is not "smart" to buy one right now as a smart phone - lol.

Samsung sucks and you're a fool if you give them business...galaxy s was a joke and sammy will find a way to screw up the sgs2 and rip off their customers.
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Yesterday, a t-mobile employee told me that they weren't going to offer it anymore. Said they were going to discontinue it.

Daveheelga said:
Yesterday, a t-mobile employee told me that they weren't going to offer it anymore. Said they were going to discontinue it.
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By Tmo rep you mean a CSR that you got on the phone?
They don't know **** from brownies.

Well it doesn't look good for the g2x. This is kind of an update to my original post. My woman's phone finally went suck-mode. It will now, not stop re-booting itself or do the screen freeze. At least 8 or more times a day. So I call tmo, which in itself was disappointing trying to charge me 20$ restocking fee or whatever they labeled it. Not to mention the Rep tried to play dumb saying tmo was unaware of the 'big 3 " issues. She later admited they did know, they just weeny ready to make it official. Anyways long story short I finally get the fee wave and she's about to tell how long the back order iswhen she says " oh... looks like its been pulled.
Me: the g2x?
Tmo Rep: yes. But don't worry you'll still get yours.
How can a company be allowed to
A. Either deliberately tell there employyees to decieve the customers on information such as known problems or issues or
B. Have such an incompatant workforce where each employee makes up their own answers.
I'm gonna go down with the ship I guess. I'm never gonna trade myg2x in. Untilled it starts messing up which I hope is never.
BTW the womans phone is pure unmolested stock no root.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "

derekedw said:
Samsung sucks and you're a fool if you give them business...galaxy s was a joke and sammy will find a way to screw up the sgs2 and rip off their customers.
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They won my heart back after there recent move which showed just how much they want to be involved in Android development. I think right now Samsung has the best display technology out there and in my opinion they make the best looking LED's and LCD's. They also managed to squeeze more power out of a dual core mobile CPU than anyone else has and if you remember, they also managed to squeeze more power out of a single core mobile CPU (Hummingbird) than anyone else. They have there problems just like everyone else. I haven't seen a perfect phone yet from any manufacturer. I don't know about everyone else but I have no problem supporting a company that is going to give a SGSII to the Cyanogen team so they can start developing for it. It would be stupid on my part to write off the company who sells more mobile phones per year than anyone else.

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They won my heart back after there recent move which showed just how much they want to be involved in Android development. I think right now Samsung has the best display technology out there and in my opinion they make the best looking LED's and LCD's. They also managed to squeeze more power out of a dual core mobile CPU than anyone else has and if you remember, they also managed to squeeze more power out of a single core mobile CPU (Hummingbird) than anyone else. They have there problems just like everyone else. I haven't seen a perfect phone yet from any manufacturer. I don't know about everyone else but I have no problem supporting a company that is going to give a SGSII to the Cyanogen team so they can start developing for it. It would be stupid on my part to write off the company who sells more mobile phones per year than anyone else.
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Who would of thought that Samsung would have gone from goat to hero so quickly. It wasn't too long ago that people wanted their heads for froyogate. However atm, they are the most dev friendly company out there. I would have no problem supporting them in the future. That being said, one of my colleagues owns a SGS2 (on the AT&T network) and while on paper it's a beast, in reality I really couldn't discern a real difference between the sgs2 and g2x.

[Q] How long will the Infuse 4G hold up?

How long do you guys think the Infuse 4G will last in the Market of ever improving phones? Will it last the next few years, say until an upgrade is eligible? Or will it simply fall apart compared to upcoming phones in the next few years? Personally, I love my Infuse, and I think it'll last at least a year to three in terms of specs and software. Please, discuss.

Ok, this is one thing you need to learn when it comes to new phones / laptops/ technology in general. In a year, IT WILL BE OUTDATED. I got the Samsung Captivate and could not imagine a better phone ---besides it's constant GPS issues and until the charging port broke on it...but that was partly my fault. I got this phone and it is great as well--even better than the Captivate. At the time, I did not think that was possible.
The thing you want to do is buy a quality product for the time. The Infuse is one of those things. If you take good care of it, it will last you. I fell off of my bike a few weeks back going downhill. I was pretty banged up. My Infuse, even though it was in a case, got pretty banged up--- cosmetically around those silver edges. It is fully functioning otherwise. It is a solid product. It will last you a long time if you don't abuse it.
For example -- -I still have the Samsung Blackjack 2 as my backup phone and I use it when my "newer and better" phones give me problems. I've had it for forever. It is still a good phone despite being years old. You have a decent phone now--- we all do, as far as the Infuse is concerned. I haven't heard too many complaints, but only time can tell if that will change. Treat it well and it will remain good to you.

The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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I'm just asking if you guys think it'll last the above-average Android user the next few years. I know it's already outdated. It was probably outdated before it even came out.
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depends on the user. there isnt much the phone can't do but it depends on samsung releasing updates and on the community to put out quality mods. to be honest with a good rom a droid could still be a viable phone. my friend has a nexus1 and loves it. i actually kinda envy it, i love the screen and media capabilities on samsung phones but as a phone the nexus is perfect and there is no reason it should need to be anything more.
i have a phone lust though. i will likely get the sgsiii or whatever comes after the sgsii long before my contract is up.

The Infuse right now is still the absolute best phone on AT&T.
And will stay that way till the SGS 2 comes out....
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The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.

I was looking at the specs of Galaxy II and the one thing I won't switch my infuse for is battery. It has 1600mA while Infuse has 1750mA. So when it comes to dual CPU, it should drain battery down pretty bad. I mean why will you ever even use that power on the phone unless you compute rocket science data using it. 4G also has a big mouth for drinking the juice out of your phone.
I'm not trying to say it is horible, it just would be a major concern if I'm a heavy data user.
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phones are always out of date typically within 6 months of being released there will be a higher end phone, with few exceptions. (i use to sell phones personally)
anyways, i had a samsung captivate which was the best phone when it came out, currently out of date, but it broke i payed money throuh insurance and luckily they were out so i got an infuse. very happy so far, and i can save my upgrade, im going to wait till i get a high spec (probably htc) lte phone

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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
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Sgs2 has a smaller screen...therfore it will seem to have better resolution next to the infuse...
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6 weeks, at best.
Coming from the Captivate it's already boring.
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The phone is already outdated when you bought it, but that is the rule with all tech lol. Will it last 5 years. If you take care of it sure but will it still be getting upgrades. Most likely not sense we are seeing higher and higher system requirements to run the newer updates.

It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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corythug said:
It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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I am not saying it couldnt handle it, just saying that after the first OS update I would not look for any others. IF it gets 1 more after that then it will be lucky. As for the Nexus S, I had great hopes for it but then I found the Nexus S was by samsung and thought ok ill wait for the next and not the new prime may be a samsung as well so looks like ill wait till the next nexus is an HTC. But if it is a samsung or HTC as long as the phone is bought through ATT dont expect to get the same number of updates as the Euro versions of the same phone. They always will get more updates then its US counter parts. As always been the case and always will be.

This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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corythug said:
This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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Yup thats why my next device will be a Nexus, as long as it is not made by samsung

Just a tribute to the Captivate...

I can't believe I'm not in a hurry to jump ship to the Galaxy S2. The Cappy has been such a good experience as a phone and it's still able to do whatever I need it to do. When the Fuze came out I couldn't help but be there the first day to pick one up. I was compelled to have the latest and greatest, and the abilities a new smartphone would allow. The same happened the release day of the Captivate.
Sure, it's had its issues (GPS and capped data speeds come to mind) but between the performance of hardware and the constant ROM updates from the dev community, I just don't feel that compulsion to move on from the Captivate. For me it's been a great phone and it's made me a big fan of Samsung's products. Oh I'll get a Galaxy S2 here in a month or two when the price comes down a bit. But I'm still happy with my Captivate and I'll keep it around as a backup.

ditto
i will likely wait until december unless the deal is too good to pass up.
Want to see what develops with the nexus prime.
Some info claims it will be a Verizon Exclusive but i am skeptical. I think that it is more likely we will see it launch exclusively on verizon with a 30-60 window before other carriers get it....so i am not giving up on the prime....the solid metal body construction alone will be worth the wait...just hope ATT gets it.

ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .

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ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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That is what has my attention as well...Galaxy Note.

I don't feel the need to upgrade from my Captivate either. Its a weird feeling, I use to be such a phone whore, now I look at new phones and feel they can't do a whole lot for me (personally, I know the phones are actually huge upgrades) that my Captivate can't do.
I HATE how ALL of the new phones being announced are so huge! 4.3" isn't TOO bad, but I do prefer my 4" screen. They're just getting bigger too, I want the Nexus Prime so badly, but there's no way I'm getting it with a 4.65" screen. My upgrade isn't until May 2012 and I'm questioning if there will even be a phone out there I like by then.
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first look at the nexus prime has a 4.6" 720p display

The captivate is a great phone. And always will be. But I jumped ship over to the inspire.
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Note is only thing captivating me right now
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ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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I'm with you guys. Once the GS II finally came out, I am not as excited. The last ROM I put on is great and until that note comes out, paying 200 for the GS2 isn't so alluring.
Especially with LTE on horizon and the Note, which will be awesome.
It's like an old friend, even knowing something is better out there, I'm not ready to trade in my old worn in shoes

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The article says 4.6". It may not be so bad since that probably includes the buttons at the bottom, I'll just have to see it in person, but I still think it will be a very large device.

I'm a captivate owner and I really love it. I will not change it in a while..

The only two things that I don't really like in Captivate are very bad sensitive buttons (well, I replaced screen after it was broken, and than buttons were like that) and very bad battery life, especially with MIUI
But speed and functionality are just grear. And still love the screen with maximum brightness. I think I will buy Galaxy Note or Nexus Prime, will see...

I'm with you guys, but not by choice. I have a contract to fulfil.
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I'll also be waiting for the Note.

I just looked up the Galaxy Note. Wow...! That thing looks amazing. It might be just a bit too big but I'm really considering jumping on that.

I'm with you guys. There is no real reason to upgrade just yet. With a good custom ROM (Cog5), it does everything I ask of it, and does it quickly. The screen is just amazing, and only the SAMOLED Plus beats it, if you ask me. Since I'm not on contract, I can switch when I want, but I see nothing out there I just gotta have. The Prime may change that, but if it is CDMA, then I'm out. Big Red is too expensive for my blood.
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Can someone please link me some info on the Note? I'd never heard of it until now.

Oz. said:
Can someone please link me some info on the Note? I'd never heard of it until now.
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http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/
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Great idea for a thread. My Captivate was my first Android phone. When I got it, I immediately started hacking it. Right now it's semi retired. My Galaxy S 2 is now my main phone.

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Great idea for a thread. My Captivate was my first Android phone. When I got it, I immediately started hacking it.
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I was in the same scenario.

sold my captivate and got a free iphone 4 from my company. I dont miss the phone bills but i can honestly say the Cappy ****s on the Iphone. ****ing hate this thing

G2x hit eol....

http://dlvr.it/14gtbY this is sad news for all of us G2X owners.
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Bull****. Never again.

wow the end came way to quick... what about ics? do the g2x have a upgrade in it's future? lets waite and see.

What are they replacing out phones with now?
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who cares ? main things is that its supported by CM

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What are they replacing out phones with now?
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As far as i've see some people are getting the sensation 4g as a replacement, and sadly because it hit EOL, there will be no more updates supported by T-mo.
LG can still release updates, but they won't be official, and as far as we all know there won't be updates from LG either.
And that is it, no more LG products for me.
LG NEVER AGAIN.

Nvidia and LG NEVER again. Sucks
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What a f%&@ joke! Hopefully i can get enough money for this pos to pay for breaking t-mo contract!
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!

People that are members of XDA shouldn't really be upset with this news. The G2 and MT4G hit EOL like 6-8 months after release and look at how those two phones are doing. Dev and ROM's are still steadily being pumped out on those two phones.
I know we don't have that many devs but the this news doesn't affect oru phone in any way considering we mod it to our liking anyways. Plus I never expected LG to update this phone to ICS, and if they did, would probably take more than 6 months. We'll just have to rely on the CM team like most phone modders do. We'll be fine.

I agree, its just the way android phones are. If people quit buying phones that arent worth buying in the first place, they would be forced to put out way better phones and eol would take longer to happen. Its just a gimmick to get consumers to spend more cash look at the sensation, sensation xl, amaze 4g. All basicaly the same phone with slightly different specs yet we the consumers spend the cash and continue to let these greedy companies make subpar phones not worth an upgrade to. I didnt choose the g2x hoping lg and nvidia would support it, xda already does that!
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d12unk13astard said:
I agree, its just the way android phones are. If people quit buying phones that arent worth buying in the first place, they would be forced to put out way better phones and eol would take longer to happen. Its just a gimmick to get consumers to spend more cash look at the sensation, sensation xl, amaze 4g. All basicaly the same phone with slightly different specs yet we the consumers spend the cash and continue to let these greedy companies make subpar phones not worth an upgrade to. I didnt choose the g2x hoping lg and nvidia would support it, xda already does that!
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Whooo who who +1 amen

I hate to beat a dead horse here, but decisions like this will probably be the majority of the reasoning of why I have begun thinking about swapping to an Iphone. Yes, the may not be exactly fast at upgrading the hardware of the phone to whats considered current. But, how long has the 3G been out? And it is still getting software updates.
LG - I love your tv's, but you can keep your damn phones.

HarveyStyles said:
I hate to beat a dead horse here, but decisions like this will probably be the majority of the reasoning of why I have begun thinking about swapping to an Iphone. Yes, the may not be exactly fast at upgrading the hardware of the phone to whats considered current. But, how long has the 3G been out? And it is still getting software updates.
LG - I love your tv's, but you can keep your damn phones.
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agreed, i'm switching to the iphone when my contracts runs out. hopefully sooner
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I would say it's more perceived obsolescence, since the device still functions just as good as it did on day one.
I'm pretty upset about this though. Granted I got this device for free...but I'm already kinda tired of it.

I am not sure I understand. Does EOL status affect the quality or use of the phones we already? Does it suddenly make the phone unusable? Does it stop anyone to get his phone fixed under warranty?
EOL just mean they are not selling it any more. Not abandoned support-wise. Also if they are not going to update it to ICE, stay out of EOL doesn't change it any better anyway.
FYI. The car you are driving is probably EOLed, too. So are most appliances in your home.

I'm with a lot of people in here so far, this doesn't bother me at all. Even if there is no official update to ICS then we will still have it eventually anyway. My G2x more than likely isn't going to die before I upgrade to something better later this year anyway...

stephenju said:
I am not sure I understand. Does EOL status affect the quality or use of the phones we already? Does it suddenly make the phone unusable? Does it stop anyone to get his phone fixed under warranty?
EOL just mean they are not selling it any more. Not abandoned support-wise. Also if they are not going to update it to ICE, stay out of EOL doesn't change it any better anyway.
FYI. The car you are driving is probably EOLed, too. So are most appliances in your home.
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Yeah but my car is not closed source, i can take it apart, put it back together, update engine/exhaust/etc.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!

Why all the hand-wringing? It's not like this is completely unexpected. How many here are runing the tmo stock rom? I would bet not many.
ICS will be here soon enough. My question is if the phone is EOL, would LG and/or Nvidia be more likely to release the needed bits and pieces our devs so badly need? It is "old" technology now so maybe that is a possibility.
I guess if I had to have ICS today I could always pull out my battle tested HD2.

Think of it this way guys - this makes your G2X a rare gem in the android world.

I havent even had the phone that long(got it oct 2011), but its been bugging me since a week or having it. random reboot and shutdowns. Freezes ect.. Doesnt matter what rom oe kernel same problem. I believe the phone is overheating or the chip things its overheating and is locking up/ shutting down.
But its time to lay this phone to rest. Im moving on to a galaxy s2 in 2 months.
I believe this phone would have lasted longer if it didnt have the problems it has and if lg released the source code for updates.
babymatteo said:
Think of it this way guys - this makes your G2X a rare gem in the android world.
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so why can i only get $70 for my mint g1? Tech moves so fast that last month stuff become old news