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I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?
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I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?
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Honestly I can't say I'm a fan of pentile screens like the Atrix has. Not to mention I read somewhere(cannot verify accuracy)that the Dalvik VM system on Froyo at the very least does not support multithreading so a dual core won't make any difference yet.
Plus, I have had bad experiences with Moto. I'm pretty happy with HTC so far.
Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.
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...software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks.
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Yes, this. Very much this.
I really Like HTC to. Don't really care about Sense since I use Launcher Pro. I guess its a matter of wait and see.
wookiebush said:
I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
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I just did the exact same thing, still waiting for the inspire to arrive though. I came from the Evo and I love HTC products, I think I'll keep it afterall and wait for the next HTC flagship phone.
The Atrix is more future proof than the Inspire with dual core and a gig of ram. Froyo may not take full advantage of dual core, but how about future builds? Gaming will certainly be smoother and with that huge battery I should be able to get through a day of heavy usage. I can't seem to do that with my Inspire unless I turn off most of the things I like about the phone. It's a tough choice, but blur doesn't bother me so I may make the jump.
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Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.
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Quoted for troof. HTC is the manufacturer who seems to get it right.
It looks like the difference that the inspire has a .3 inch bigger/lower resolution screen screen, 8GB less memory, higher MP camera (8MP), has digital compass, has HTC sence (maybe better than momto blur?), has fm radio.
I guess it just depends on what features are important to you. My only real question is about the insire's FM radio. Is it actually functioning out of the box or did att disable it?
Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.
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Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.
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I just exchanged my Atrix for an Inspire yesterday.
After rooting and unlocking, adding CM7 and the 1.8Ghz kernel, I can say with 100% confidence that I made the right choice switching.
Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
I think everyone over there in the Atrix forum is coming to the conclusion that their phones will probably never see an unlocked bootloader, and are jumping ship because of it.
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Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
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^This.....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks so. I think the Atrix display looks horrible. I continually ponder how more people don't make mention of it. I came from a Captivate (which I still have) and the Inspire before I tried the Atrix and its quality leaves A LOT to be desired.
I still have both devices. And I had decided to return the atrix once or twice but cannot pull the trigger because of the hardware. Everything else, is better on the inspire. I feel like I have to force myself to like the Atrix. I've given it a try (a day's run) and each time I went back to the inspire. Hm, I'll see how it plays out.
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I am extremely confident with my decision to get the inspire. I love the screen and man this thing is fast. Even though the atrix has better specs I really think that the inspire, once rooted and oc'ed is way faster. I pop in to the atrix forums once in a while and it just solidifies my confidence that I got the right phone. Everyone over there is complaining about one thing or another, which wouldnt be that big of deal because Android is so customizable, but that isnt the case with MOTO because of the locked bootloader. Also who really wants to have to wait for official updates? Especially from companies like MOTO and Samsung. I am happy.
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Depends what you are looking for. If you are looking for a phone that under-performs but looks great on a stat sheet - Atrix is for you. I had nothing but hate for that phone after just 3 days of using it. Its sluggish, the UI is clunky, animations were horribly slow.
Inspire has a far better screen believe it or not. It has no pixelation that I can even see (atrix had a ton) and the colors are far far far more accurate. The atrix couldnt even do the color yellow.
Atrix - 2/10 stars
Inspire - 9/10
So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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I haven't experienced this.
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So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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Using RCMixHD and have no issue with this, its super slick and smooth.
You might want to take the custom Rom route anyways to maximize the performance and features of the phone.
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Does the inspire have any sort of tv out capabilities
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had atrix for 3 days and for all 3 days tried to full my self i like the phone... nope didnt work. second day into.. dead pixels exchanged to find screen off to the left and actually twisted another one and the same problem, overall the qhd screen is horrible just go ahead and search something in google and look at the smaller text you'll see the pixels are missing . motorola screwed this one completely ; the phone really feels like was put together in some tiny village in 3th world country. side by side inspire feels smoother faster ( ain't no joke) and with iphone build quality.the last feature got my girlfriends attention and trust me she's one of this iphone4 owners that no matter what point you'll make that makes android shine vs iphone she'll tell ya i don't care. and i dont care if the atrix is better with games , pointless feature if u ask me... ill stick with my ps3 for real gaming experience. would be nice to have hdmi out and louder speaker otherwise thats pretty much what's missing. inspire much better phone.
Ok. I have had the inspire since it came out and I think its a huge upgrade from the captivate. My question is, for another $50 should I go to the Atrix?
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For another 50? It will cost me 100 more plus the 35.00 restoring fee. And I'm buying one today to compare to my inspire. I love the inspire but the atrix also looks nice so going to see which one I keep. The inspire screen looks much bigger than the 4.0 on the atrix, I have to see if it will make a difference web browsing n watching movies.
I'm keeping both for a while. Absolutely love the inspire, but those specs on the atrix are just too irresistible.
Yeah with an available upgrade you can get an atrix for $149 from radioshack. I went from a cappy to a surround to a focus (wp7 needs alot of work) to an inspire. I love it but the screen has some touch issues and it has locked up on me a few times. So I am a little concerned about that. Plus dual core is hard for a nerd like me to ignore.
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Plus dual core is hard for a nerd like me to ignore.
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Ditto lol......
I know dual core, but will the Atrix be LTE compatible?
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I loved the atrix at first. Then I tried my inspire. For me at least Android without htc sense just feels like something is missing. I came from a nexus one to nexus s to iPhone 4 and now to my inspire. The atrix seems like As close as you'll get to a pure Google experience on at&t at least. I'm tempted to check one out only because of the awesome screen and hdmi out. But thats bot enough to make me switch from my sense to motoblur. That's the deal breaker for me... if only the inspire had a fingerprint reader
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That is a very good point about LTE. It may be a monster of a phone but there is definitely no LTE support that I have read about. From my understanding AT&T will be putting out LTE phones this year but not for a while.
Also good to know about motoblur. I am a huge, HUGE, fan of Sense. I came from samsung's horrible touchwiz so sense has completely restored my faith in android. I have read several reviews that were not to keen on motoblur and I don't want to get caught up in constant rom flashing like I was with the captivate. Seems like everyday i was flashing a new rom and that just got old.
Either way, I will never go back to the iPhone. Not unless they make major improvements to their OS. But thats for another thread.
unless I am mistaking the Inspire doesn't have LTE support either, right?
Inspire might not be LTE compatible either, but It's half the price and had a bigger screen.
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That is a very good point about LTE. It may be a monster of a phone but there is definitely no LTE support that I have read about. From my understanding AT&T will be putting out LTE phones this year but not for a while.
Also good to know about motoblur. I am a huge, HUGE, fan of Sense. I came from samsung's horrible touchwiz so sense has completely restored my faith in android. I have read several reviews that were not to keen on motoblur and I don't want to get caught up in constant rom flashing like I was with the captivate. Seems like everyday i was flashing a new rom and that just got old.
Either way, I will never go back to the iPhone. Not unless they make major improvements to their OS. But thats for another thread.
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Yeah, I loathe motoblur. I just got the atrix and I hate it as much as everyone else that I've read. The first thing I'm doing is loading on ADW Ex....
And sense is amazing. It should be the standard on android.
Just came from an AT&T store to handle the Atrix and the 1st impression was WOW, small screen, maybe because there's hardly any bezel it makes the screen seem dwarfish. When I placed it alongside the Inspire it was noticeably smaller. I honestly don't know if I can downgrade in screen size.
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Just came from an AT&T store to handle the Atrix and the 1st impression was WOW, small screen, maybe because there's hardly any bezel it makes the screen seem dwarfish. When I placed it alongside the Inspire it was noticeably smaller. I honestly don't know if I can downgrade in screen size.
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I noticed this too.....what a difference from the inspire.....hard to believe the difference is only .3 inches
I just checked the Atrix at my friendly ATT shop, and I'm not sold to exchange my inspire for the Atrix. Colors seem better on the inspire, but the whites look whiter on the Atrix. Quadrant and nenamark1 were amazingly faster on the Atrix. I also checked the laptop dock and I was not impress by it. I check YouTube @ 1080p and it couldn't handle it. Even 720p was jittery. What do you guys think?
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I too was less then impressed with Atrix so I'll stick with Inspire at least for now. Hopefully Infuse will drop soon.
nevermind ....
CM7 will never make it to the atrix and development will be restricted to the same kernel released by moto. So hell no.
I went to the ATT store with the intent of trading my inspire for an Atrix. I played with it for a few minutes and decided it wouldn't be an upgrade for me. I mainly use my phone for texting, email and twitter. Dual core can't improve that experience very much. Maybe I'd see it a different way if I played lots of games on my phone but I don't.
They even let me play with the laptop dock, which further cemented my decision. It really can't compete with even the cheapest of netbooks out today. Too slow, especially on pages with flash.
I also just like the massive solid metal feel over the plastic of the Atrix.
If you guys are looking for speed, our CPU overclocked to 1.6 feels much faster than the atrix. I'm well satisfied with my purchase.
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If you guys are looking for speed, our CPU overclocked to 1.6 feels much faster than the atrix. I'm well satisfied with my purchase.
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how is the battery on the overclocked ROM?
Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
I'm kinda curious. I have seen the 1.8Ghz OC kernel, and Cyanogenmod 7 on the forums but haven't been able to find a video or anything. Can anyone compare this to the experience of a stock Atrix? I want to believe that a Inspire w/ CM7 @ 1.8Ghz would be scorchingly fast.
I'm sure the Atrix battery lasts nearly 2X the inspire overclocked like that, but I don't mind carrying around a 2nd battery for a phone. I always had 2 with my OG Droid
the fact that it doesn't have blurr should be the main reason. Alone the inspire is such a mod-able phone its not even funny. Performance wise from playing with a friends atrix and mine (not o.c.). Mine still ran smoother.
Its all about what the person wants. Specs or customization.
Not over clocked I get a good day day half of heavy use.
There have been a few devs who left the atrix for the inspire, the inspire has bigger dev community. As far as 1.8 goes, I don't think thats realistic for everyday performance. 1.5 is the performance sweet spot for most.
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I had an inspire, got rid of it BC I was a noob with android and the battery wasn't working out. Bought an atrix, and was disgusted after about a week to the point that I didn't care if the battery OJ the inspire was small - I just wanted it back. Sold my atrix, bought a new inspire and never looked back. The phone is seriously just 100 better. L
The kicker is that with certain custom roms, cm7 being the best, the battery life is equal to that of the atrix.
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yeah i bought the Galaxy S because of the "specs" Let's just say i learned my lesson on that... For me it's all about the Dev Support, and as you can see the Inspire 4G has LOTS!!!
On a side note.. I actually checked which phone was supported by CyanogenMod before purchasing..
I believe that HTC is the way Android is meant to be..
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Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
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mmm....
$199 - Atrix
- 79 - Inspire4G
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$129 Difference.
That's (2) weeks worth of Gasoline! That's what made up mind in a heartbeat!
Inspire vs Atrix
A stock Inspire runs very smoothly and very quickly. The Atrix is very fast because of the dual core processor, but that's pretty much it. Motoblur slows the phone down quite a bit and while it does seem to maintain it's responsiveness despite some lag, as I said it's still pretty laggy. HTC Sense isn't just an overlay on top of Froyo, it actually seems to enhance the experience of using an Android phone because everything seems to run so much smoother. Gaming on the Inspire isnt as good as it is on the Atrix because it's not dual core, but games for the most part run very smoothly (I've played quake 3 on mine with no issues). But yea, if you're just looking for speed, the Inspire is more than capable. It's already very fast underclocked, but its very fast overclocked as well.
This vid may help u decide if u should keep the Atrix or not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmFKACFIu1s
Atrix disappoints
I work at a Best Buy and a lot of people bought the Atrix on release day at my store. I, however, wanted to wait and see, plus being a huge HTC fan the Inspire was really desirable (pun intended). So yeah I got an Inspire while one of my co-workers in the Geek Squad has an Atrix, and we go back and forth. "My resolution is higher!" he says, "My screen is more vibrant and larger" I say... Then his phone lags and doesn't scroll smoothly and I laugh. Speed test side-by-side I blow him out of the water, it really ticked him off when I connected his Atrix to my 3G hotspot and Speed tested quicker than his Atrix alone. Plus with the Atrix you have to rely on Motorola to release updates, and there is no way to put CM7 or another custom ROM (as of now due to encrypted bootloader)... Not to mention the version of 2.2 on there doesn't utilize the second core (if I am incorrect let me know). Sure he can hook it up to a TV and play around, but that isn't useful...
Get rid of the atrix. For a dual core phone that thing is a straight up embarrassment to Android. No ones kidding when they say the inspire is faster with no overclock. Doing side by side tests of inspire (stock) vs both atrixs I had, the inspire won EVERY speed test I gave it. With an overclock, its not even close.
And yes the atrix IS utilizing both cores with that version of froyo that's its shipped with, and with no possible way to ever flash a kernel, don't expect it to get much faster than it is right now
Edit- and my battery life actually isn't to bad at 1.8 surprisingly. It thought it was gonna be really bad, but it turned out to be pretty good.
Update:
Bought a brand new Inspire today!
Thanks for the input everyone!
PS. If anyone is interested in my Atrix it is for sale. $400
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in terms of stock one of the reasons people prefer the inspire is because of the htc sense UI it gives a smoother and better experience with andriod
motorola's UI is lik a rip off of htc from wat ive seen of it at least
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in terms of stock one of the reasons people prefer the inspire is because of the htc sense UI it gives a smoother and better experience with andriod
motorola's UI is lik a rip off of htc from wat ive seen of it at least
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If it was even close to a rip off it would be passable.., but its far from it.
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Why would you Inspire people recommended the Inspire over the Atrix?
I'm kinda curious. I have seen the 1.8Ghz OC kernel, and Cyanogenmod 7 on the forums but haven't been able to find a video or anything. Can anyone compare this to the experience of a stock Atrix? I want to believe that a Inspire w/ CM7 @ 1.8Ghz would be scorchingly fast.
I'm sure the Atrix battery lasts nearly 2X the inspire overclocked like that, but I don't mind carrying around a 2nd battery for a phone. I always had 2 with my OG Droid
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The Atrix is from Motorola, for the main reason. Blur is horrible and Motorola locks their phones down to where modding just isn't as plentiful as an HTC phone. On paper, the Atrix is a must-have device. But in reality, it is a buggy Motorola phone. The build quality of the Atrix seems to be excellent, though.
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The Atrix is from Motorola, for the main reason. Blur is horrible and Motorola locks their phones down to where modding just isn't as plentiful as an HTC phone. On paper, the Atrix is a must-have device. But in reality, it is a buggy Motorola phone. The build quality of the Atrix seems to be excellent, though.
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Its not great build quality. It does have some heft to it, but the back creaks and it is entirely plastic. The only good thing is the whole back can be replaced. The fingerprint sensors also aren't aligned or centered... they look like they were thrown in there.
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I had both the inspire and the artix
my atrix experience wasn't terrible but that might have been because of the fact i was rooted running gingerblur the best rom out right now for the atrix... i enjoyed the atrix's great battery life and fingerprint scanner but the build quality wasn't good and felt cheap to me
in my opinion if your running a stock atrix with no intention of flashing a rom to it your going to get annoyed and bored of blur..
that being said sense isn't much better for me im much more a fan of stock android or miui actually is pretty good to. I would personally get rid of the atrix and try the inspire the screen is bigger and brighter in my opinion and has a lot more of rom development the atrix
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Its not great build quality. It does have some heft to it, but the back creaks and it is entirely plastic. The only good thing is the whole back can be replaced. The fingerprint sensors also aren't aligned or centered... they look like they were thrown in there.
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QFT. I couldn't stand how badly my back cover creaked. Nothing about that phone screamed quality to me at all, software or hardware wise.
locked bootloader= no reason to buy EVER. Even with the cool dual core you can't overclock or do any cool **** w/ roms. On top of that motoblur is a piece of junk.
Ok, here's my opinion and comparison between the two, which I waited two weeks handling the sensation before posting.
The G2X was awesome without its fault the first couple days I had it. It was fast and reliable, simple to its core running the stock froyo. I miss the G2X to tell you guys the truth, and would have kept it if issues were solved, but I really couldn't wait months before an update are sent out. Even if updates are sent out it is still a gamble whether or not it will function the way it should. Paying a premium price for a phone should get you a near flawless device that should keep you happy for atleast a year or two, and shouldn't give you so much hassle that you can't use it due to bootloop for a whole day while you are out.
The HTC Sensation, so far, is working flawlessly. The lag people are talking about is pure nonsense. If you do remove most of the widgets that is running when you first turn on the device it should work without any lag, and people shouldn't really have that much widgets running.
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They are pretty much the same here. The G2X does feel more plasticky in the back, but it didn't really annoy me. The only thing about the sensation I didn't like are the power and volume buttons. They look like they will fall off any minute compared to the G2X which looked solid.
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The screen on the G2X does pop out more compared to the Sensation, but the resolution fares much better like it should on the latter device. I have to say the screen on the Sensation is amazing even under the sunlight. The only annoyance I have is that you have to go under settings to turn on the automatic dimmer because it is not on the power widget. Browsing the web is also better on the Sensation since you can see more with higher resolution. I have not experienced any of the issues they have posted such as dust, and touch sensitivity. Comparing to the G2X the touch sensitivity fares better on the sensation. I remember that sometimes I had to swipe the unlock button twice on the G2X, but haven't had that issue on the Sensation. The new sense UI is cool, that's all and will give you entertainment for 5mins.
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This is where I saw a really big difference. The G2X is far superior when it comes to the sound of the loudspeaker. I can hear the sensation's notifications just fine, but with the G2X I can hear it without any problem from another room and I can't say the same thing with the HTC. For this amount I would expect HTC to fit a better speaker, although, it doesn't annoy me since I usually have my phone on vibrate.
I like the Sensation, and I think that it is a superior quality to the G2X. Although, I do miss my G2X too.
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Ok, here's my opinion and comparison between the two, which I waited two weeks handling the sensation before posting.
The G2X was awesome without its fault the first couple days I had it. It was fast and reliable, simple to its core running the stock froyo. I miss the G2X to tell you guys the truth, and would have kept it if issues were solved, but I really couldn't wait months before an update are sent out. Even if updates are sent out it is still a gamble whether or not it will function the way it should. Paying a premium price for a phone should get you a near flawless device that should keep you happy for atleast a year or two, and shouldn't give you so much hassle that you can't use it due to bootloop for a whole day while you are out.
The HTC Sensation, so far, is working flawlessly . The lag people are talking about is pure nonsense. If you do remove most of the widgets that is running when you first turn on the device it should work without any lag, and people shouldn't really have that much widgets running.
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They are pretty much the same here. The G2X does feel more plasticky in the back, but it didn't really annoy me. The only thing about the sensation I didn't like are the power and volume buttons. They look like they will fall off any minute compared to the G2X which looked solid.
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The screen on the G2X does pop out more compared to the Sensation, but the resolution fares much better like it should on the latter device. I have to say the screen on the Sensation is amazing even under the sunlight. The only annoyance I have is that you have to go under settings to turn on the automatic dimmer because it is not on the power widget. Browsing the web is also better on the Sensation since you can see more with higher resolution. I have not experienced any of the issues they have posted such as dust, and touch sensitivity. Comparing to the G2X the touch sensitivity fares better on the sensation. I remember that sometimes I had to swipe the unlock button twice on the G2X, but haven't had that issue on the Sensation. The new sense UI is cool, that's all and will give you entertainment for 5mins.
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This is where I saw a really big difference. The G2X is far superior when it comes to the sound of the loudspeaker. I can hear the sensation's notifications just fine, but with the G2X I can hear it without any problem from another room and I can't say the same thing with the HTC. For this amount I would expect HTC to fit a better speaker, although, it doesn't annoy me since I usually have my phone on vibrate.
I like the Sensation, and I think that it is a superior quality to the G2X. Although, I do miss my G2X too.
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This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...
As a person who went from a G2X to a Sensation I agree with pretty much everything you say. I think you got the Sharp panel for your display which is why you think the G2X pops more. The AUO panel found in done Sensations is super bright with vibrant colors that pop almost as much as a Super AMOLED. I have handled 4 Sensations and trip of them have been laggy due to the person keeping the UI animations, weather animation and a HTC widget on every page. The Sensation I have only has the click widget with 4 pages worth of icons and it is buttery smooth.
Tell me if you notice a difference in these areas.
-App speed: I have found that most apps load and interact faster on the Sensation such as Google Maps which loads and zooms twice as fast than it does on the G2X.
-Flash Videos: Play smoother on the Sensation.
-Contacts app: Scroll faster than on the G2X which would stutter a little bit. Also my contacts pictures on my G2X would take a second to load when scrolling but they are instantly there as I scroll on the Sensation.
-Display: After looking at the Sensation for a couple days, do the icons and peters look fuzzy on the G2X?
All in all. I think once we get the Sensation rooted and this bloatware off of it, this phone will be a super beast.
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smashpunks said:
This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...
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I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
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I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
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I am curious about this. The unit I played with look like garbage compared to my G2x. The contrast was horrible on the Sensation. Washed out blacks and poor visibility in sunlight. I was not aware there are two different panels available. Is there a manufacturing date to look for? How can you tell before you purchase if you are getting the good panel?
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I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
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I didn't really say that the display is bad compared to the G2X. The only reason I say this is because I was looking at the display through maybe 60-75% brightness to save battery, plus I don't want to get blinded. Full brightness then yes sensation does look really good.
Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.
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Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.
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And you dont have 2.3 because...? exactly
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And you dont have 2.3 because...? exactly
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comparing an official 2.3 build to a leaked/incomplete version isn't exactly fair.. Even comparing to CM wouldn't be because it isn't even in RC yet. just saying...
regP said:
comparing an official 2.3 build to a leaked/incomplete version isn't exactly fair.. Even comparing to CM wouldn't be because it isn't even in RC yet. just saying...
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i know. waiting for that update is what urged me to switch
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Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.
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Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.
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This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...
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What did you do with your G2x?
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Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.
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No offense, but it seems that you are quite enamored with the sensation. You post the exact same thing in the threads of the two, and what I'm wondering is since love your sensation so much, why hang around here with our "inferior" g2xs?
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Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.
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Well sure, we can compare iOS to Android... but with Android, there are lots of optimizations in GB could make a big difference in numbers.
A good test is Stock G2x and Stock Sensation (2.2.2 vs 2.3.3) just as a good base. The true test comes when both are running official versions of the same software (2.3.3 vs 2.3.3).
GPU Accelerated OS parts aren't even included until GB so the G2x should feel faster on GB.
Even a G2x CM7 test wouldn't be fair because while they are on the same OS, CM has always had lower numbers (for some reason).
CM7 on Sensation and G2x would be a perfect test.
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Well sure, we can compare iOS to Android... but with Android, there are lots of optimizations in GB could make a big difference in numbers.
A good test is Stock G2x and Stock Sensation (2.2.2 vs 2.3.3) just as a good base. The true test comes when both are running official versions of the same software (2.3.3 vs 2.3.3).
GPU Accelerated OS parts aren't even included until GB so the G2x should feel faster on GB.
Even a G2x CM7 test wouldn't be fair because while they are on the same OS, CM has always had lower numbers (for some reason).
CM7 on Sensation and G2x would be a perfect test.
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Agree. The best comparison for me is both phones right out of the box since we can't get apples to apples until GB is released for G2x.
Why does it HAVE to be apples to apples?
I have a T-mobile contract for another 6 months. I want the best phone on that T-mobile contract I can get. I am going to compare every T-mobile phone to every T-mobile phone and choose the best one for me. Its about comparing one device that is available to you to another device that is available to you. If I can root it and load a custom ROM on it to make it better I will consider that as best I can in my decision making... because it is available to me. Also, if something changes about a device and makes it a better option later on I will have to weigh that and consider switching because what is available to me changed.
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No offense, but it seems that you are quite enamored with the sensation. You post the exact same thing in the threads of the two, and what I'm wondering is since love your sensation so much, why hang around here with our "inferior" g2xs?
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I am enamored with the Sensation and I will be enamored when the Hercules gets released. I still play with my G2X and still do like it. There are some games I can't play on my Sensation that I love playing on the G2X and I still use the G2X to get my hack on.
Just because I extensively used both devices side by side (unlike most of the people here) and decided that the Sensation was the better all around device due to a number of reasons doesn't mean I don't like the G2X anymore and for that matter doesn't mean I don't use it anymore.
I have already stated the things the G2X does better than the Sensation. If those reasons were enough to use it as my main device then I would return the Sensation in a heart beat as I am not tied to either one. I understand some people are tied to the G2X and will defend it until there contract runs out but quite frankly, I could give a two ****s less about defending devices just because I own them. The things I think the G2X does better might be important to you and that's why you choose to use it. The categories the Sensation does better in are more important to me and is why I use it as my daily driver.
Bottom line. I still use my G2X and my Nexus S for that matter every day and until I stop using them, I will not stop browsing there respected forums.
By the way. I guess you didn't see my post yesterday saying good things about the G2X...uh?
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Why does it HAVE to be apples to apples?
I have a T-mobile contract for another 6 months. I want the best phone on that T-mobile contract I can get. I am going to compare every T-mobile phone to every T-mobile phone and choose the best one for me. Its about comparing one device that is available to you to another device that is available to you. If I can root it and load a custom ROM on it to make it better I will consider that as best I can in my decision making... because it is available to me. Also, if something changes about a device and makes it a better option later on I will have to weigh that and consider switching because what is available to me changed.
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+1 my friend. This is exactly how I feel. When it comes down to it. NOTHING is going to be apples to apples. It's always oranges in the mobile world and people have an excuse for everything. Compare the available devices no matter what kind of fruit they are and just go with it.
I will say I honestly love both devices. I had 2 g2x's and my daughter has one. I traded one of them in a trade for a sensation and the 2nd one I had sent back to LG for repair(should be here friday) I will admit I do miss my G2X a bit. I'm looking forward to getting my other one back and restoring it to the way my other one was before I traded it off
I hate sense that's y sensation sucks
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I need a new phone and I have narrow the choices to these 3 phones: atrix(300$), g2x(300$), and the photon(200$).
Pros for g2x:
higher fps in benchmarks
IPS brighter then pentile and lcd
8mp camera with 1080p
seems very snappy
stock gingerbread
1.3 front camera
Pros for atrix:
higher resolution and density screen
1gb ram
huge batttery
not as bulky as photon
bigger storage(16gb)
pros for photon:
Big screen(i know, contradictory)
better screen?(brighter than lcd)
quadrant scores
kickstand
loud speakers
also does the 1gb vs 512 mb ram really affect the performance of the phone? like multitasking and quickness. from what i've seen, the g2x seems way more snappy then the atrix or the photon. am i missing something here? how fast does each load apps and websites? Also can you use the photon on tmobile here in US? or is it only for international. i looked through a lot of forums with no definitive answers. and also does the atrix only use edge on tmobile? is that true?
also from what i've gathered the g2x seems to have a lot of bugs like reboots an d boot loops, is that true? can it be fixed by updates? or is it hardware. does flashing other roms or kernels help?
what are the battery life on each? which one is the best?
Sorry that post was long, I just want honest answers regardless of what phone you have, since this is in the g2x section.
RAM doesn't affect performance at all. It's just that the Photon and Atrix are running Motorola's UI which bogs down the phone like Sense UI.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
RAM doesn't affect performance at all. It's just that the Photon and Atrix are running Motorola's UI which bogs down the phone like Sense UI.
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So will Custom roms fix the lag on the atrix and photon? but on youtube the videos showed that their performance wasn't that much better
And boot loops are a direct result of user error.
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And boot loops are a direct result of user error.
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What do you mean by "user error"?
Users not flashing properly. I am currently making and updating several themes for this phone, so I'm flashing various roms, and the component apks dozens of times EVERY DAY....and the ONLY time I've ever gotten a boot loop was when I made a stupid mistake...either flashed the wrong file, or didn't wipe what I was supposed to for what I was trying to do, or didn't fix permissions, or I changed smali code beyond what I knew what I was doing, and it went wrong.
But never once have I had my phone just up and decide to "boot loop."
Also, sometimes people make changes to things and then boot up to try it, and it takes 3-4 minutes to boot up because they're rebuilding the dex for 150 apps...adn they just start screaming, "OMG I"M BOOTLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" But they just need to chill out and wait.
I've had both the atrix and the g2x. Personally, I would go with the g2x, has the same processor as the atrix, but stock android is the best in my book. The g2x is absolutely the fastest smartphone I've ever owned. Already has an amazing development page going on with AOSP,cm7, and MiUi ...etc. camera is better on the g2x. True 1080p recording ( I don't think the atrix got that update for 1080p like it was supposed to). To me g2x wins hands down out of those three phones IMO.
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well
1) there are phones that have had reboots, lockups and shut downs. that have nothing to do with user error, these are people that never flashed anything( it does appear the line of phones that had this are gone. dont see much of it anymore except from people that have had their phones for a while)
2)each phone you listed are on different carriers so you really need to look at whos got the best coverage for you.
3)atrix and photon have motoblur so g2x wins right there.
you didnt mention verizon if you dont care about a locked bootloader or blur than the bionic comes out on thursday and should be a great phone. i think motorola makes the best hardware. and if the google buy goes through thats a big plus.
but if you can wait until october even better options will be out. oct-dec is gonna really be a big next tech phone period. and icecream sandwich will come on some of those phones.
screens. the ips on the g2x beats the atrix and photon hand down.
if your into installing custom roms and tmobile service is good in your area the g2x should be fine for you. if you dont do custom romming than dont expect much in the way of updates or support for the g2x.
I really suggest you wait for octobers phones if you can.
good luck
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I've had both the atrix and the g2x. Personally, I would go with the g2x, has the same processor as the atrix, but stock android is the best in my book. The g2x is absolutely the fastest smartphone I've ever owned. Already has an amazing development page going on with AOSP,cm7, and MiUi ...etc. camera is better on the g2x. True 1080p recording ( I don't think the atrix got that update for 1080p like it was supposed to). To me g2x wins hands down out of those three phones IMO.
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Couldn't have explained it any better.
Definitely go with the G2X.
Are you going to be flashing custom roms? If so, I'm not sure that motoblur would be that big of a deal. Just flash a rom without it. I'd personally go with the better specs, but thats just me.
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Are you going to be flashing custom roms? If so, I'm not sure that motoblur would be that big of a deal. Just flash a rom without it. I'd personally go with the better specs, but thats just me.
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Yes I am going to flash custom roms, but the improvement I saw on the few youtube videos wasn't enough to impress me.
Since your in the G2x section, I can't help but assume that most of the answers will be biased