I've purchased both Juice Defender and Green Power, and though I've gotten better battery life when I use the respective apps, they both suffer from the same problem. When the lockscreen is on for an extended period of time, the mobile network will not refresh. The only way to get 3G or 4G back is to restart the phone.
Some have said that toggling airplane mode will fix the problem, but that causes one of two things to happen for me: 1) the entire cell network shuts off and the mobile network remains dormant 2) the only way to fix the mobile network is to keep airplane mode ON (which makes zero sense, since airplane mode should shut down all networks).
The latest version of Green Power supposedly fixed the api mobile networks switch, but I don't see any change. This problem has been mentioned for more than a year in various forums, but it never seems to get fixed. Without being able to auto-toggle the mobile networks, these apps are materially worthless.
Does anyone have a solution?
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you could manually turn the wifi and data off yourself?
I had the same problem and found no solution. I just uninstalled them.
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Here's a screen cap... Airplane mode on, but wifi also stays on. Same occurs with mobile networks. Makes no sense.
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Sort of defeats the purpose. I want automation so i don't have to think about it. Don't understand why it randomly won't reconnect.
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well until they figure out how to control it on our 4G phones Im not sure...If had JD work for moments while on 4G only...then it wont re engage if it needs to switch to a 3G mode...I then tried it forced to 3G only and same sometimes it does and other times it doesnt..eventually it will get fixed Im sure...but in the mean time just use either for wifi control only or go straight manual control
It's a shame this doesn't work yet. I found it made all the difference in the world for battery power on my fascinate. Mainly because I work in a building with poor reception. JD made the issue moot.
Now I have to remember to turn data off and on as needed throughout the day. If I forget, my battery's dead in 8 hours. If I remember, I can get 20+ hours out of it. No wifi option at work, btw.
Even better would be if this could be tweaked in the kernel somehow. I understand not all phones suffer this battery drain with a weak signal. Wonder what the difference is.
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It's a shame this doesn't work yet. I found it made all the difference in the world for battery power on my fascinate. Mainly because I work in a building with poor reception. JD made the issue moot.
Now I have to remember to turn data off and on as needed throughout the day. If I forget, my battery's dead in 8 hours. If I remember, I can get 20+ hours out of it. No wifi option at work, btw.
Even better would be if this could be tweaked in the kernel somehow. I understand not all phones suffer this battery drain with a weak signal. Wonder what the difference is.
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I wonder why juice defender and green power both screw up airplane mode. My phone's settings say airplane mode is off, but the toggle switch says it's on and it turns off my cell signal. I can't figure out how to get airplane mode to completely shut off without restarting. The fact that both Juice Defender and Green Power have the same issue controlling the mobile network leads me to believe it's an OS issue, not an app issue. If this is the case, we're not likely to see a fix anytime in the near future.
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Bump. Does anyone have a fix yet?
I think this issue could possibly go deeper than this. Over the last two days, I have had issues with going from full bars in a known coverage area to Searching for Service. Eventually, it will reconnect to the network, but mobile data never comes back. It seems to be worse when I have GPS toggled on, but I can't seem to single out the root cause. I don't use JD or Green Power or any other "battery saver" so something deeper is going on I believe. It's worth exploring anyway and I thought it may help track down a solution.
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My wifi connection is not very stable. Keeps on disconnecting.
I heard this is a known problem for theb g2x. Are any of u experiencing this issue? And or know how to fix this?
Is tmobile gonna do an update fix for this?
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I've experienced wifi issues myself. Wifi was working flawlessly the first week i had the phone but now it seems as though it does not want to connect to any network -__- it just says 'error'
Not sure if i had something to do with it acting up, maybe i downloaded an app that caused it to act up.. idk
No definite word if the upcoming gb update will fix this issue but i sure hope it will!
sometimes simply rebooting your router can fix this. of all the wifi threads i've seen, i never saw anyone mention this. but like i said, it will sometimes fix it.
After leaving my phone idle for 15+ minutes, I'll lose wifi. Simple fix is to disable/enable wifi. LG knows of this problem and will release a fix on the next update. http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/general/lg/topics/g2x-wifi-problems
Now others are having a different type of wifi issue where it won't connect at all, I'm not sure if it's a hardware or software issue.
I'm having the exact same issue. Wifi will be connected, then after a period of time the connection gets disabled. It's quite annoying, as I often do not notice it for a while, after I have already gobbled up a bunch of 4G bandwidth.
I fixed this problem with G2xFixWi-Fi from the market.
Just 4 clicks and it is done.
two separate wifi problems with the g2x
it's good that your wifi problem was fixed with the G2xFixWi-Fi app. but that only fixes the dns problem.
there is another wifi problem where if the phone is in idle for a while and you wake it up, you see from the indicators at top there is no wifi icon and that it is trying to connect 4g but doesn't succeed. the 4g icon flashes on briefly and disappears. it keeps on doing this every second until i manually turn off wifi. then it connects to 4g. from what i can deduce, if i don't turn off wifi before putting it in idle, it does this as well after the phone is in idle for a while. i'm not sure how long after the screen switches off that this looping process happens, but give it 2 hours and i feel that the back of the phone is really warm. i'm thinking that it's warm because it is constantly in this loop. this may also be the source of the massive battery drain that some are seeing.
if i manually turn off wifi before putting it in idle, this doesn't happen. so that's my solution for the time being. i heard about using tasker to automote toggling wifi on/off as the screen is on/off. and it seemed to work at first. but after an overnight test, i found out that the phone response time is sluggish and unpredictable, to the point where i had to have perfect timing just to unlock the phone from idle. rebooting the phone didn't resolve the sluggish response problem, but uninstalling tasker did the trick. so now, it's back to manually turning off wifi before putting it in idle.
another solution proposed is to set wifi to never sleep in the settings. the last time i tried it, it didn't work for me. but i'll try it again to see if it'll work this time.
setting wifi to never sleep did not help
nope. i changed my wifi settings to never sleep and the wifi disconnection problem still happens.
When my phone was stock I had problems with Wi-Fi when it was simultaneously trying to run 2G or 4G. Since then I have switched to various ROMs and Wi-Fi is rock solid. I do use Juice Defender which turns it on and off when screen is off and I'm not running a short list of programs like Pandora. It also reliably switches on when I arrive home.
My G2X won't connect to every WiFi network, and there are a few it cannot even find. I was in a cafe the other day and my friend's laptop and Nokia connected to its WiFi network and my G2X could not even find it... (( So, the problem is, some networks it recognizes but does not connect to (it sticks to "obtaining internet IP..." and then disconnects) and some it cannot even recognize. But to most networks it connects no problem (my home included)... What could be the problem? Can anyone help me?
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My G2X won't connect to every WiFi network, and there are a few it cannot even find. I was in a cafe the other day and my friend's laptop and Nokia connected to its WiFi network and my G2X could not even find it... (( So, the problem is, some networks it recognizes but does not connect to (it sticks to "obtaining internet IP..." and then disconnects) and some it cannot even recognize. But to most networks it connects no problem (my home included)... What could be the problem? Can anyone help me?
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If you have not messed with the ROM and are having this problem - try TMo tech support first, then ask for a replacement if not fixed.
I have had excellent WiFi performance with stock ROM and EB Froyo's and GB (with and without kernels) - WiFi always worked OK. Could be bad unit - it should work!
My wifi has worked flawlessly, but I think it may depend on the router. I recently bought a wifi repeater to use on the other side of my house and when I connect to that, the G2x will disconnect from wifi after about 15 minutes of idle time, like previous posts have said. I switch back to my regular router and it never disconnects.
I have also notice the problem to.
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it's good that your wifi problem was fixed with the G2xFixWi-Fi app. but that only fixes the dns problem.
there is another wifi problem where if the phone is in idle for a while and you wake it up, you see from the indicators at top there is no wifi icon and that it is trying to connect 4g but doesn't succeed. the 4g icon flashes on briefly and disappears.
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I am experiencing this same issue. My phone is rooted with no roms. This just started happening within the last week. Does anyone know of a fix for this yet besides possibly factory resetting?
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I am experiencing this same issue. My phone is rooted with no roms. This just started happening within the last week. Does anyone know of a fix for this yet besides possibly factory resetting?
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This sounds like normal behavior honestly. What is your wifi sleep policy set to? By default the wifi radio turns off when the screen is turned off and then turns back on when the screen turns on.
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Thanks for responding. I have it set to "when screen turns off." The weird thing is I never noticed it do the little switcheroo before. Also, I have Juice Plotter just for fun and it used to show wifi for most of the night when I'm sleeping and the phone is charging. And now it shows APN during that time. I guess it was messing up before and now it's doing what it's supposed to.
Can you enlighten me on a myth, I heard that the wifi consumes less power than the APN or 4G. Is this true or false?
Thanks again
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Thanks for responding. I have it set to "when screen turns off." The weird thing is I never noticed it do the little switcheroo before. Also, I have Juice Plotter just for fun and it used to show wifi for most of the night when I'm sleeping and the phone is charging. And now it shows APN during that time. I guess it was messing up before and now it's doing what it's supposed to.
Can you enlighten me on a myth, I heard that the wifi consumes less power than the APN or 4G. Is this true or false?
Thanks again
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With a LTE or Wimax phone, I think so. With a phone using hspa+, I don't think so.
Did you try.
Did you set it like I do, WI-FI never sleep. Because where I live
T-MOBIL had no cell service. Well, Very spotty coverage.
Also check how many people in you're neighborhood are on your same channel. And change yours.
Look in mark there's a free APP that's a WI-FI analyzer.
And change to one
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My wifi is acting weird. It does a loop whenever i have a WPA/WPA2 settings on my home wifi but works when i have it disabled. :S It was alright with stock froyo and stock GB i uploaded from LG. then i flashed Xboarders OTA 1.2.2 GB and this happens.
Can any1 give an insight how to fix this ? =(
im having the same problem, i bought the g2x the day it came out (when it had froyo before gingerbread came out) and never had a problem leaving my wifi on 24/7 it wasnt until the update for gingerbread came out that this problem started happening, it really sucks for me since im using my g2x as an AT&T phone for now all i get is 2g speeds
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also something i tried and worked was turn wifi off, turn off your phone and turn it back on then go to menu>settings> wireless & network>wi-fi settings>check connect to wifi and check connect to wifi that worked for me (holding the phone in landscape mode (horizontally) ) i add that in because one time i was turing the wifi on in that order it didnt work i dropped my phone and picked it back up in landscape mode and wifi was connected. im not sure if anything i said helped anyone at all but hope i didnt waste anyones time
I find that if I'm in a fringe 4G area, that my phone will often not connect to either 4G or 3G. At home my 4G signal is strong and I always connect to 4G 100% of the time. At work, when i'm in the middle of the building I often get no 3G or 4g signal. From my office I always got 3G with my D1. With my Charge about half of the time i get no signal unless I reboot. It seems like the phone gets confused if there is a weak 4G and a decent 3G. How is the Charge in a 3G only area?
I saw the EE4 release notes and it looked like it was meant to solve this problem. However, I'm seeing the same behavior. What is everyone else's experience.?
I should also add I'm using Juice Defender. I think I"m going to try disabling it to make sure that isn't causing a problem.
I'm going to guess that it could be JuiceDefender causing the problem, disabling data until a more reliable signal comes about. I have had times where I've lost 3G service, or 4G service, but it comes back on its own after a few seconds. I'm guessing that despite the improvement, there are still some bugs, which is to be expected with the new technology. I do notice that I loose my data connection much less often than before, and the improvement in battery life is worth any minor issues for me.
Get rid of Juice Defender, it will cause you many more problems than its worth. All it really does is enable/disable data when it doesn't think you need it to save battery, but you're much better off doing that yourself with the power widgets in the notification bar. I spoke with a VZW network engineer after confusing the various tech support reps because I actually have some idea of how their network operates (go figure), and he confirmed that something like that is not a great idea, especially on the new LTE network. It doesn't save much battery, since its always forcing data to re-sync when it thinks it should even when I don't need it, and sometimes turns it off when I do want it. Also, it seems to take much longer for it to sync or switch 3g/4g when JuiceDefender is running.
I completely uninstalled it, and when I pull my phone out, if I plan on using the internet, I turn on mobile data. If I'm putting it away for awhile, using media/apps/games on the phone that don't require data for some time, or planning on making a long phone call, I'll turn it off. It syncs up right away when I need it, so that works very well for me. In fact, if you keep your apps from auto-synching, it will idle most of the time its not being used anyway, meaning its not using much power anyway.
Just like auto task killers, juice defender seems to be one of those things that's an attempt to save battery power and improve performance, but is typically misunderstood and used improperly, actually hurting the things you want to improve. It seems that proper understanding of how Android works, and learning how to efficiently manage it yourself works better.
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Get rid of Juice Defender, it will cause you many more problems than its worth.
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You guys rock. I've uninstalled juice defender and have had zero issues for the last 3 hours. Still too soon to tell, but it looks promising.
I'm having issues with this the last few days. I've never had Juice Defender.
Especially tethering as the wife and I were driving around looking at houses. She likes to pull them up on the laptop while doing so. Before the EE4 update everything worked great, now it cut out enough to make it too aggravating to continue to use. And each time it cut out the phone had lost 4g and I had to toggle LTE in the network settings to get it to come back.
Anyone else had similar issues? I thought EE4 was supposed to fix these, not cause more!?
Well, my 4G has improved slightly since EE4.
I actually occasionally get 4 bars of 4G in my office at work, where I never had connection to 4G in the past. It still seems a little dicey with random hand-offs between 3G and 4G, though.
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Well, my 4G has improved slightly since EE4.
I actually occasionally get 4 bars of 4G in my office at work, where I never had connection to 4G in the past. It still seems a little dicey with random hand-offs between 3G and 4G, though.
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Yeah I'd agree with that, better 4G when I have it, but very bad handoffs.
Update, not a single outage since removing Juice defender.
I have a stock rooted atrix2 and was getting pretty good idle power usage (typically just over 1%/hr) and had tried both wifi sleep policies of 'never' and 'never while charging'.
I recently added another wifi AP to my house (D-Link DIR-601-A1 running dd-wrt) and configured it with the same SSID as my original (linksys wrt-54g running tomato). Suddenly, my battery life started to suck dramatically (10%/hr) and I noticed a few things after seeing my battery life *improve* when I left the house.
1. my wifi sleep policy would switch to *never* no matter how many times I switched it and *saved* that config.
2. my atrix2 would spend alot of time sending out SSPD packets (media service autodiscovery) and this probably accounted for the ****ty battery life.
3. this problem didn't change much until I stopped using the d-link and switched back to only the linksys.
I'm curious if anyone else has seen such strange wifi behavior out of their atrix2.
EDIT: I'm still seeing the sleep policy switch to 'never' even config'd to only use the old wifi AP. If I switch it back to 'never when plugged in', it auto-switches back to 'never'.
I have mine set to never and don't have anything like the battery drain you have. I use a rt n56u with third party firmware.also have a network drive attached as a file/media server.my battery lasts better than if I'm out using 4g.
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I have mine set to never and don't have anything like the battery drain you have. I use a rt n56u with third party firmware.also have a network drive attached as a file/media server.my battery lasts better than if I'm out using 4g.
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I noticed that behaviour as well with my OG atrix, but I haven't tried it with the atrix2. There's got to be something on my atrix2 that is causing a spike in battery usage while connected to wifi, and auto-switching the sleep settings as well.
Anyone seen this before?
My (unrooted) Atrix 2 has a terrible time staying connected to WiFi, even after all manner of tinkering. Just seems to turn itself off after a certain amount of time, no matter the Sleep/Data Manager settings. Even on two different access points that I have configured in any number of ways.
Getting really frustrated.
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I also had this issue until rooting the device. Haven't had the problem since.
I'm testing a theory on my Wifi problem (somewhat different from the OP, but perhaps still of interest). I'm someone who always hits the power button to turn my screen off rather than just letting it go back to sleep. It does appear that breaking myself of that habit, and leaving the phone to turn off the screen on its own, lets the WiFi stay connected. Otherwise, it's incredibly unstable when sleeping, with disconnects or sometimes the antenna ending up turned off.
I also have WiFi Keep Alive running, but that didn't appear to really help as much as just not using the power button.
We'll see if it continues to be the case.
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At least one of the things it does is stop the phone going into the deep sleep. Based on CPU spy my phone had no deep sleep at all. When I turn it off my phone started going to deep sleep.
Not using that feature again. Good to know. Try it yourself.
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This may in fact be the issue I have been having. After around an hour or so (seemed to vary) the WiFi seemed to stop working. The WiFi symbol was still there and even doing a ipconfig check all the "numbers" came back correct yet there really was no connection.
I am going to give this a try and really hope it works. This issue has had me contemplating returning the phone, which I really don't want to do.
Funny thing is, if this works it was not part of the solution that HTC recomended me trying to fix the problem.
Maybe this is connected to the push notification problems that the phones are having while on WiFi.
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I had that option checked and I noticed my battery life sucked. When checking usage I saw "Android OS" had used 25%. I turned it off and it dropped to 5% or less
After turning this on last night I have not had to "toggle" the WiFi on and off like I had to do before. I am not quite convinced this fixed the issue but it seems to have a shot.
Only weird thing is after leaving WiFi on all night I checked the battery status to see what was using it and there was a large gap of the WiFi not using any battery but again I never had to toggle so I guess I am not sure what that means. Was the WiFi off during that time and I would have received no emails etc... Or was it really connected.
I am wondering if any of this may also have to do with my router. My previous phone would also loose connection to WiFi but no where near as often. However my other devices using WiFi (PS3, GoogleTV, TV. etc..) have never had an issue of loosing connection. So I am sticking to it is the phones fault
Alright, so I had HTC EVO 4g for around 3-4 years and the lag and limited storage made me switch to s5. My evo was custom rom based on gingerbread. My experience so far with this phone is not going so well. "TouchWiz" constanly pops up saying that it was stopped or not responding or something, wasn't paying attention to what the message said. Android browser keeps crashing when I try to close a tab or go to a different tab. Mobile signal connection seems worse than my bro's s4. The compass direction is way off, I've tried many apps and tried calibrating, but it doesn't work. When I do try the compass, the readings are always shakey even though it was on flat surface. Whereas my old phine has a steady and rock solid compass reading. There's no built in sensor calibration or test app. Battery drain is insane. Is everyone experiencing this or is it just me? I'm getting so irritated. Only good point is the hardware, way more smoother and faster than my evo. Also when I click home button, there's like a 1 second delay before it actually goes to home, unlike my old phone where it just instantly responds.
You may have gotten a bad phone. Have u tried a factory reset? If you are on 4g LTE your signal bars show your data connection not your signal strength. Switcj over to cdma only so u only get 3g and your signal bars will show stronger. As far as battey life I get amazing battery life in my phone. I have yet to run my battery dead in a day. I have seen as high as 5 hours screen on time with 20% battery left.
If a factory reset doesn't work I'd take it back for a new phone.
Hope ya get it sorted out
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You may have gotten a bad phone. Have u tried a factory reset? If you are on 4g LTE your signal bars show your data connection not your signal strength. Switcj over to cdma only so u only get 3g and your signal bars will show stronger. As far as battey life I get amazing battery life in my phone. I have yet to run my battery dead in a day. I have seen as high as 5 hours screen on time with 20% battery left.
If a factory reset doesn't work I'd take it back for a new phone.
Hope ya get it sorted out
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Yeah, I know all about the signal bars and stuff. Only with my 4G, the signal bars show a lot stronger, when outside of course. When I'm outside and tried 3G, it gets like 0-1 and it's still cant connect me to google.com even though on SignalCheck the 3G signal is like 85%. At home I have to use my WiFi, otherwise I won't get a connection at all. I don't know if I can take it back for a new phone... It's rooted since day 1 and knox is tripped and it's been way past the return period. Would factory reset likely solve all the problem or is it just like a 1 in a million chance of it working?
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Alright, so I had HTC EVO 4g for around 3-4 years and the lag and limited storage made me switch to s5. My evo was custom rom based on gingerbread. My experience so far with this phone is not going so well. "TouchWiz" constanly pops up saying that it was stopped or not responding or something, wasn't paying attention to what the message said. Android browser keeps crashing when I try to close a tab or go to a different tab. Mobile signal connection seems worse than my bro's s4. The compass direction is way off, I've tried many apps and tried calibrating, but it doesn't work. When I do try the compass, the readings are always shakey even though it was on flat surface. Whereas my old phine has a steady and rock solid compass reading. There's no built in sensor calibration or test app. Battery drain is insane. Is everyone experiencing this or is it just me? I'm getting so irritated. Only good point is the hardware, way more smoother and faster than my evo. Also when I click home button, there's like a 1 second delay before it actually goes to home, unlike my old phone where it just instantly responds.
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There have been many reports of peeps getting devices with wonky stuff going on. I think Sprint or whoever is getting devices back and just throwing right back in the box without checking, or something along those lines. Definitely try doing a factory reset. If that doesn't work, take it into a Sprint store and make them fix or give ya another cause what it is doing is not normal for the S5. Battery life for me has been just as good or better than my S4. TW has been solid without any crashes.
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Thread cleaned. Warranty fraud is illegal. If you came here and rooted your device, and something broke, pay the costs of the replacement. There are disclaimers all over this site explaining that using these items WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY AND ANYTHING YOU DO, YOU DO AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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My apologies, there is a misunderstanding. I meant to file a claim through TEP and pay a deductible to get a new phone. Warranty would require me to send in my phone which I could not do if I reported it lost.
Edit: What are the actual chances that I got a bad phone?
Definitely a bad phone or just need to wipe data and wipe device. I have not seen any issues with this device other than the alarm clock icon disappearing
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Definitely a bad phone or just need to wipe data and wipe device. I have not seen any issues with this device other than the alarm clock icon disappearing
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Does your compass seem accurate and not shakey?
No shaking and yeah its accurate
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