Could somebody please post the apk and any other files associated with it? Thanks.
Rydah805 said:
Could somebody please post the apk and any other files associated with it? Thanks.
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HTC Listen?
The app that comes with the sensation called Listen.
Not all sensations have it. It only comes stock on the Sensation 4G (e.g. Tmobile usa and the like). It is not on the asian or european stock sensations because of some international music licensing issues (though the apk will work on an international device, go figure). I have it but won't post the apk as it is considered warez. Sorry, I know that doesn't help you much.
It's actually not warez since its included and cannot be purchased. Maybe you know a link I can download it from and would be willing to p.m. me that link?
Thanks.
Actually it is warez as it is not available for your device due to licensing issues. Agree or don't, either way like I said sorry.
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Actually it is warez as it is not available for your device due to licensing issues. Agree or don't, either way like I said sorry.
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It comes in almost every ROM available for download from this site... so then that would mean all our devs are distributing warez...And that when people from Europe posted the Skype apk that allowed 3g video calling back before it was allowed in the US...
OP if I didn't auto delete that stuff before I flash a ROM I would hook you up, also idk if you need anything other then just the APK.
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It comes in almost every ROM available for download from this site... so then that would mean all our devs are distributing warez...And that when people from Europe posted the Skype apk that allowed 3g video calling back before it was allowed in the US...
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If they are packaging it in anything other than a tmo based rom then yes, that's exactly what it means, though I can't confirm nor deny that they are as not one of them advertises the app in their rom . Just becsuse something goes unnoticed or ignored doesn't mean its not against the rules or right, but this is just my two cents.
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It comes in almost every ROM available for download from this site... so then that would mean all our devs are distributing warez...And that when people from Europe posted the Skype apk that allowed 3g video calling back before it was allowed in the US...
OP if I didn't auto delete that stuff before I flash a ROM I would hook you up, also idk if you need anything other then just the APK.
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Thanks. Appreciate it. The one I've found in two different roms is a beta, but the one I saw on a store demo wasn't. Any info on this?
Yeah you need to update it through sense, which unauthorized devices can't do. If you had a US sensation you would be automatically alerted to the update or you could check for updates manually.
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Yeah you need to update it through sense, which unauthorized devices can't do. If you had a US sensation you would be automatically alerted to the update or you could check for updates manually.
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Well obviously I can't. :-/
I'm on the EVO 3D. Too bad nobody is willing to help. Except dcwiker05,but he doesn't have the apk. Don't know what the big deal is...
Rydah805 said:
Well obviously I can't. :-/
I'm on the EVO 3D. Too bad nobody is willing to help. Except dcwiker05,but he doesn't have the apk. Don't know what the big deal is...
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I'm downloading a new update to my current ROM that requires a full wipe. I made a NANDroid of my stock set up before I flashed anything, when my ROM is finished downloading I will restore my stock set up, pull the apk and throw it on dropbox for you. Did you ever find out if you need more then just the apk? Also my listen is the updated version so that will help. Give me about an hour or so.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30137670/listen.v1.20.0.63591.htc-mars-android-client-mandatory-update.apk
Here you go
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Here you go
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Thank you very much
Related
http://www.groubal.com/att-prohibits-commerce-blocks-amazon-app-store/
Free our phones!
so its an online petition? the website never really explained that neither did your post....
wow that will never do anything...
My phone is already free so I don't see the point in this.... The link was about as meaningless as this thread.
Flash custom ROM with all the features you want.
Download amazon app.
Enjoy.
No.
Petition.
Necessary.
vunuts said:
Flash custom ROM with all the features you want.
Download amazon app.
Enjoy.
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That right there is the definition of freedom. Well, as it pertains to phones, anyway.
I dont get how AT&T says app store is blocked. I use it everyday for the free app just fine. No custom ROM here, just rooted.
it is blocked ,but to the stock rom ,non rooted ,non unknown sources. but we already knew this like 10 years ago...
yeah but now there is a poorly written online petition for it!.. LOL.. see op link..
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so its an online petition? the website never really explained that neither did your post....
wow that will never do anything...
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Either they've changed up the website since you looked at it, or i have to call your reading comprehension in question. I don't know how you couldn't figure out that was an online petition.
[only calling you out cause you called out op ]
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Either they've changed up the website since you looked at it, or i have to call your reading comprehension in question. I don't know how you couldn't figure out that was an online petition.
[only calling you out cause you called out op ]
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how did i 'call him out'?
time to unplug! you are reading way too much into things..!
i understood the site just fine, but it was poorly written petition, as was the original post.
it was not "calling out" but commenting on poor explanations. i question your comprehension.
people can defend themselves. no need for you to add your 2 cents.
Thread closed. We all know how ATT does the unsigned apps. And to be honest, I dont blame them. There are alot of people that should not be messing with their phones. Those that can will find how to root and get around it. Nuff Said
So right now were trying to make sure that the future of HTC's phones dont get knocked out because of the encrypted bootloader they are trying to force upon us so im just writing this to you all to make sure that the XDA members know whats going on and I was wondering if you all can help us out, these are the details:
right now i'm sure your aware of what is going on in HTC's facebook page and i wanted to know if you
would read up on what is going on and show that everyone is wanting this to be unlocked.
This first link is the petition that were all signing to show to HTC that we are wanting this:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloade...nd/#signatures
We want more to know about it so i was reaching out to all of you right now.
this second link is the conversation that a member who started this had with a sprint rep on facebook, it shows that sprint is not the one responsible for the locked bootloader and that they are not trying to push for it.
https://www.facebook.com/sprint/posts/156658601067283
This last link is just what xda is thinking of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1094914
we know that they made a statement but we want to make sure that they know that we all want this to be unlocked
So pass this along and let everyone know what is happening! thanks for your help!
The links are dead. I think this is a bogus post. Admins, please review and close this thread if it is.
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links are broken.
Gene Poole said:
links are broken.
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http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#signatures
idk what happened sorry guys
I made a quick search for the groubal and found the link:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#sign
I don't think this is a bogus post.
Sorry, you beat me to it!
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http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#signatures
idk what happened sorry guys
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click on it different times because i do get that error sometimes, sorry about it not working from the get go, but i would love your support on this guys
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I made a quick search for the groubal and found the link:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#sign
I don't think this is a bogus post.
Sorry, you beat me to it!
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thanks for reassuring them its not bogus at all me and a couple of xda members are trying to influence the facebook people right now we have been working hard but we need the help of our fellow xda members
No surprise with future HTC phones getting locked and/or encrypted BLs. Pressure from carriers are finally getting to HTC.
Someone from XDA will crack 'em.
knarfl1 said:
No surprise with future HTC phones getting locked and/or encrypted BLs. Pressure from carriers are finally getting to HTC.
Someone from XDA will crack 'em.
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Seems like sprint isn't pushing this on them though, based on what i've seen with this info it seems its HTC's part here that they want to protect their Sense UI most likely. but you can help and try to change the future because that's not something i want and i'm sure no one in xda wants this either
mintilmidnight said:
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/#signatures
idk what happened sorry guys
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It appears that you cut the links from another post wherein the tag get's abbreviated (the ellipsis in the middle) but the actual href is valid. You should always right click the link and "copy address" (or however it appears in your browser) instead of selecting the text directly.
Yea I saw that I have never had that issue before but wanted to get the word out there and try to get as much help as possible
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A few threads have been removed the past few hours. These are regarding a leaked radio which is known to brick devices and has been taken from a compromised server.
Reposting will not be tolerated. Distribution through PM, or even hinting that you may be available to spread it through PM or other methods, will be treated as open reposting. "Vacations" will be dealt out to those who do so.
This is both for your own good as for the good of others. Some of you are able to read between the lines - I have read it in your posts - and good for you.
Have patience, it will come.
if you build it they will come...
Thanks for posting. This should really be a stickied topic as its a highly talked about subject.
DemoManMLS said:
Thanks for posting. This should really be a stickied topic as its a highly talked about subject.
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ahh i see they listend to you
So that new radio that dissapeared is Mega crap also huh? How did wwe figure this out if knowone hardly has it. Just wondering I read it was an older version then the one currently being used by people like me. Is that a fact?
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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+1
and it locks GPS way faster!!
+1..same here...everything just seem smoother or its probably just me
Master™ said:
Who exactly did it brick? It is working fine here.
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I think the important thing is to protect sources. Not sure if it is bricking or not. Though I don't want to be the one to find out.
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I'm not sure, but this probably means GB release is very soon? Wouldn't that make sense?
It got pulled off every site within 2 mins. I just got lucky enough to snag it. But I will not distribute so please no pms asking for it
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I decided not to download it I'll wait and see what the devs say on it.
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bamf team is coming out with a new sense 3.0 rom(there is a preview zip available in the bamf 2 beta thread) so im guessing there is something coming soon, he seemed to stop once the brick issue came about, so why else would they and others update and create new roms for GB radios.
It wont brink you, its just to protect sources and legal issues probably. Im using it and its much better than the first leak, only got one reboot in the few hours my phone was on
Nikolai2.1 said:
It wont brink you, its just to protect sources and legal issues probably. Im using it and its much better than the first leak, only got one reboot in the few hours my phone was on
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Maybe I should have downloaded it while I had the chance.
nativi said:
Maybe I should have downloaded it while I had the chance.
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thats kind of how i feel.
Guys please DO NOT PM people asking for it, I have already received one and rejected it. No one wants to get banned over something stupid. You will live I promise. Anyone who receives a PM, whether you think you'll get caught or not, please do the right thing and kindly reject them.
Nikolai2.1 said:
Guys please DO NOT PM people asking for it, I have already received one and rejected it. No one wants to get banned over something stupid. You will live I promise. Anyone who receives a PM, whether you think you'll get caught or not, please do the right thing and kindly reject them.
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its surprising how people cant wait, im aching to have it as well and pissed i didnt dl it but like the OP said have patience, it will come
and im thinking its a lot sooner rather than later
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/18/090518fa_fact_lehrer
seemed on topic with the whole not waiting thing
Pithism said:
its surprising how people cant wait, im aching to have it as well and pissed i didnt dl it but like the OP said have patience, it will come
and im thinking its a lot sooner rather than later
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The fact that we have an MR2 Radio means GB could be right around the corner. I have had one reboot with it, (although that might have been a fluke, as the phone had 3% battery left), and so far it is very stable, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an official build out soon.
DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS IF YOU ARE NOT THE TYPE TO BLEEDING EDGE! ANOTHER VERSION WILL BE UP FOR CELLUAR SOUTH TOO...THIS IS A VERY GENERIC AND WON'T WORK PROPERLY.
http://www.mediafire.com/?cb7bpy04p14il84
It's EI20, released early this week...
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Thanks!
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Change log
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This post needs to be removed from this section. It is NOT for the Mesmerize, it's not even for the US version of the i500. If you flash this you will most likely lose data, MMS or even worse, brick your phone.
OPS please remove this post.
I know mesmerize devs that beg to differ. So please don't start. I have flashed this to a US i500 and it works just fine...k thx.
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This post needs to be removed from this section. It is NOT for the Mesmerize, it's not even for the US version of the i500. If you flash this you will most likely lose data, MMS or even worse, brick your phone.
OPS please remove this post.
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I know mesmerize devs that beg to differ. So please don't start. I have flashed this to a US i500 and it works just fine...k thx.
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"US i500" = Mesmerize? Or Showcase? Or Fascinate?
Its EXPLICITLY for exerienced people. Hence "For developers only" not noobs.
I know it breaks stuff, I didn't say it won't...just for development only.
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"US i500" = Mesmerize? Or Showcase? Or Fascinate?
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natalic said:
Its EXPLICITLY for exerienced people. Hence "For developers only" not noobs.
I know it breaks stuff, I didn't say it won't...just for development only.
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Hahahaha. He called you a noob.. LMAO
OP. Hasn't a clue. Was to respond to a simple question. Oh and he was told that by a Mesmerize dev.
Noob huh? LOL! I've been hacking phones since my Audiovox CDM8450. I may not be a "Developer" but I know my way around phones and am far from being a "noob". If you KNOW it breaks stuff don't you think you should post that as a warning in the OP? Also you stated to PM you for a password when the file is not even password protected (and you call me a "noob").
I got the rom to some experienced rom hackers, and they haven't complained
The file is to protected, mediafire requests a password. the second file isn't, thats a changelog.
I didn't think I'd need to tell a dev, that is won't work out of the box:|
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Noob huh? LOL! I've been hacking phones since my Audiovox CDM8450. I may not be a "Developer" but I know my way around phones and am far from being a "noob". If you KNOW it breaks stuff don't you think you should post that as a warning in the OP? Also you stated to PM you for a password when the file is not even password protected (and you call me a "noob").
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Not once did I call anyone a noob...I said the rom is for developers to pick apart...thats it...this may be why your phone hasn't got eh09 here...but it's out...oh wait that was my leak too ha.
scarmon25 said:
Hahahaha. He called you a noob.. LMAO
OP. Hasn't a clue. Was to respond to a simple question. Oh and he was told that by a Mesmerize dev.
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Just out of curiosity. Why would you password protect a file and make people converse with you instead of just posting the standard dicscaimler and posting openly like every other dev does.?
natalic said:
I got the rom to some experienced rom hackers, and they haven't complained
The file is to protected, mediafire requests a password. the second file isn't, thats a changelog.
I didn't think I'd need to tell a dev, that is won't work out of the box:|
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Password is there now, wasn't earlier for some reason. Most Devs on this site and others also post a warning if there is a chance of bricking your device. I know you put that it was for dev's only but you should know that people love to flash cutting edge stuff and get themselves into trouble. You should have at least posted a small warning to those that decide it's worth the chance to flash this.
I write software for a living, I just wanted to avoid the "this f-ed my phone up" stuff. no other reason.
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Just out of curiosity. Why would you password protect a file and make people converse with you instead of just posting the standard dicscaimler and posting openly like every other dev does.?
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Not once did I call anyone a noob...I said the rom is for developers to pick apart...thats it...this may be why your phone hasn't got eh09 here...but it's out...oh wait that was my leak too ha.
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Actually slick. My. Phone is on eh09 Cm7. I don't even use this site. I went to where the real devs are at. Also you're leak. Yeah right... Try phidelts leak.
Yeah, i know but it WILL literally mess up the phone. the radio is weird as well as the MMS is for ACG...So it needs some TLC...Also the recovery gets wiped.
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Password is there now, wasn't earlier for some reason. Most Devs on this site and others also post a warning if there is a chance of bricking your device. I know you put that it was for dev's only but you should know that people love to flash cutting edge stuff and get themselves into trouble. You should have at least posted a small warning to those that decide it's worth the chance to flash this.
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Oh so this isn't a Mesmerize leak. Thought it was the way you was wording your responses
Well, I ALSO leaked it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230271
5 days earlier...Thanks
I gave it to quite a few people
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Actually slick. My. Phone is on eh09 Cm7. I don't even use this site. I went to where the real devs are at. Also you're leak. Yeah right... Try phidelts leak.
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No but the devs @ rootzwiki have it now So they'll be working on it.
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Oh so this isn't a Mesmerize leak. Thought it was the way you was wording your responses
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Well, I ALSO leaked it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230271
5 days earlier...Thanks
I gave it to quite a few people
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That's great. But don't imply that you are the only one who did and that you presume to know what I'm running or where I get my **** from. There was alot of people posting that around that time. And phidelts probably would have had it out at the same if he hadn't rooted and deodexed it for us.
anyway you want it, pm me. this thread was not intended to be an argument.
It is against XDA rules to require offsite registration. The OP has been advised he needs to remove the password or else this will be removed.
So, curious... has anyone who claims finding that golden ticket in the Wonka bar of the new leaked ICS update passed that update file along to someone who can actually pick it apart to see if these are legit, or are we dealing with a bunch of trolls here?
*Mod, feel free to move this if needed. Thanks.
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Apex_Strider said:
So, curious... has anyone who claims finding that golden ticket in the Wonka bar of the new leaked ICS update passed that update file along to someone who can actually pick it apart to see if these are legit, or are we dealing with a bunch of trolls here?
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Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683893
Several of my dev counterparts and I have looked this one over extensively. It is legit, but so far ONLY for the Chinese release, and Middle East Aisia phones. There is still no sign of the US AT&T or any other international versions yet.
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So, curious... has anyone who claims finding that golden ticket in the Wonka bar of the new leaked ICS update passed that update file along to someone who can actually pick it apart to see if these are legit, or are we dealing with a bunch of trolls here?
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Yes, there are legitimate leaks of ICS for ME865 and non-AT&T MB865. See these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683893
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684443
Pretty much everyone here who's a dev or wants to be one at some point are taking a look at these.
So, are these updates being found via Cheesecake or do the lucky ducks in China (or wherever) not divulge where they stumbled upon it?
Also, I've been checking Cheesecake for a couple of weeks now, but occasionally I'll get a "Connection Failed" window that wants me to select from three different choices... is that right or am I not doing something right?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
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So, are these updates being found via Cheesecake or do the lucky ducks in China (or wherever) not divulge where they stumbled upon it?
Also, I've been checking Cheesecake for a couple of weeks now, but occasionally I'll get a "Connection Failed" window that wants me to select from three different choices... is that right or am I not doing something right?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
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Most likely being leaked from Cheesecake, unless they know someone who works inside at Motorola.
As for the connection failed window, whenever I get that window I simply restart my phone and the message will not show up again for a while. That message shows up I believe if you overload their servers by trying to connect too many times in a given time period.
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Most likely being leaked from Cheesecake, unless they know someone who works inside at Motorola.
As for the connection failed window, whenever I get that window I simply restart my phone and the message will not show up again for a while. That message shows up I believe if you overload their servers by trying to connect too many times in a given time period.
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Okay, good to know .I'll try a reboot next time I see that window pop up. Glad to know I'm not going about this wrong -don't want to lessen my already slim-to-none chance at getting the ICS update! lol
Please post in the correct forum. Development forum is not meant to make random inquiries. If you didn't make it it does not merit a new forum in development section. Also this has been asked before so please search before making a new thread. /moved to General.
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Okay, good to know .I'll try a reboot next time I see that window pop up. Glad to know I'm not going about this wrong -don't want to lessen my already slim-to-none chance at getting the ICS update! lol
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Please DON'T install any of these pre-release updates!
They really are not meant for "normal" use.
You are best to wait for one of us devs to create a stable ROM out of these updates for everyone to flash. Either that or wait about 2 more weeks and Motorola will release the real deal through the proper OTA channels. When we had the 2.3.6 leaks, it was about 2-3 weeks before the "Official" OTA came out.
If you flash this it has the potential to lock your phone down even more than it already is, that or make a brick out of it.
If you find an update the best thing to do is to upload it someplace like say dropbox... then post a post in the General section with the link to it, asking us devs to look it over.
If you don't have a dropbox space, see my signature, it is 100% free for 2.5GB of space, and if you refer people you get more free space.
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Also, I've been checking Cheesecake for a couple of weeks now, but occasionally I'll get a "Connection Failed" window that wants me to select from three different choices... is that right or am I not doing something right?
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"Connection Failed" just means that that server is down.. choose "Skip setup", switch servers and try again... no need to reboot.
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Please post in the correct forum. Development forum is not meant to make random inquiries. If you didn't make it it does not merit a new forum in development section. Also this has been asked before so please search before making a new thread. /moved to General.
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My apologies prbassplayer, I thought that maybe this was out of step for this part of the forum -wasn't entirely sure. Noted and understood.
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Please DON'T install any of these pre-release updates!
They really are not meant for "normal" use.
You are best to wait for one of us devs to create a stable ROM out of these updates for everyone to flash. Either that or wait about 2 more weeks and Motorola will release the real deal through the proper OTA channels. When we had the 2.3.6 leaks, it was about 2-3 weeks before the "Official" OTA came out.
If you flash this it has the potential to lock your phone down even more than it already is, that or make a brick out of it.
If you find an update the best thing to do is to upload it someplace like say dropbox... then post a post in the General section with the link to it, asking us devs to look it over.
If you don't have a dropbox space, see my signature, it is 100% free for 2.5GB of space, and if you refer people you get more free space.
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Gotcha, Jim. I have a dropbox account, but don't figure I'd be lucky enough to score the first ICS update for US and/or AT&T. At any rate, I'll keep on truckin' along just to help out...
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Gotcha, Jim. I have a dropbox account, but don't figure I'd be lucky enough to score the first ICS update for US and/or AT&T. At any rate, I'll keep on truckin' along just to help out...
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You never know. I just hope that we hit these servers so much that we keep them pretty unusable, and MOTO gets so annoyed that they speed it up and get the stable version out faster.
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"Connection Failed" just means that that server is down.. choose "Skip setup", switch servers and try again... no need to reboot.
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Where do these servers come from, are they official Moto servers?
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You never know. I just hope that we hit these servers so much that we keep them pretty unusable, and MOTO gets so annoyed that they speed it up and get the stable version out faster.
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We can only hope! What differences will 4.0 have over our now 2.3.6 -why is this so sought after? (N00B question)
EDIT: Other than that which I have seen around the forum, being that the UI is different among other (seemingly indifferent) differences... at least to my untrained brain.
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You never know. I just hope that we hit these servers so much that we keep them pretty unusable, and MOTO gets so annoyed that they speed it up and get the stable version out faster.
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Was thinking something like that the other day it is like a ddos attack (imma fire my laser) with all the people on cheesecake now.....