Does anybody know what it takes to overclock the GPU in the Droid Charge? I generally think that CPU overclocking is pointless, but GPU overclock should help terrain data in Google Earth. I have lagfix installed and verified working.
I am currently on the underclocked PBJT kernel. I assume I would have to migrate to the overclocked PBJT kernel, but I don't know of a way to control GPU clock from there. Ideas?
After installing the OC PBJ kernel, download and install an app called Voltage Control.
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After installing the OC PBJ kernel, download and install an app called Voltage Control.
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There's a difference between the CPU and GPU. Voltage control only changes the CPU clockspeed. You would have to ask imnuts if it's possible to oc the GPU.
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I found where you can change the FPS cap, but not the clock speed.
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I found where you can change the FPS cap, but not the clock speed.
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Would that do anything without a clock speed increase?
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I found where you can change the FPS cap, but not the clock speed.
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can you point me to that because i feel that performance is not up to standards. my brother's adreno 205 inc2 performs leaps and bounds better in games
No. If you see the FPS waver, then it is not at its FPS cap, therefore it would be pointless to raise the cap.
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Perhaps it's the extra ram that gives the Dinc2 its edge.
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Perhaps it's the extra ram that gives the Dinc2 its edge.
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RAM makes everything better and it's the reason why certain apps seem to be quite slow(n64oid, gun brothers, etc). If those ****heads over at Samsung would've added more RAM this phone wouldn't have any problems, sure a better processor and a notification LED would have been nice but the only thing actually needed was the RAM.
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RAM makes everything better and it's the reason why certain apps seem to be quite slow(n64oid, gun brothers, etc). If those ****heads over at Samsung would've added more RAM this phone wouldn't have any problems, sure a better processor and a notification LED would have been nice but the only thing actually needed was the RAM.
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Meh, screw more RAM. This only thing this phone needs is more cowbell!
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Meh, screw more RAM. This only thing this phone needs is more cowbell!
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Obviously
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The requirement for more Cowbell aside, does anybody if this is possible? The Galaxy Nexus will have the same GPU but clocked at 384 MHz vs 200 MHz on the Droid Charge.
I am curious if they have somehow reduced the process size or added extra cooling capacity, because that is huge difference.
In any case, it makes me think that GPU in the Charge could use a bump up without causing issues.
rami98 said:
can you point me to that because i feel that performance is not up to standards. my brother's adreno 205 inc2 performs leaps and bounds better in games
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Not sure if this would help but you could always try Chainfire 3D.
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The requirement for more Cowbell aside, does anybody if this is possible? The Galaxy Nexus will have the same GPU but clocked at 384 MHz vs 200 MHz on the Droid Charge.
I am curious if they have somehow reduced the process size or added extra cooling capacity, because that is huge difference.
In any case, it makes me think that GPU in the Charge could use a bump up without causing issues.
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Holy dead thread batman! At any rate we can't increase GPU clockspeed because it's probably controlled at a hardware level, rather than variable by kernel.
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I do believe the glitch kernel on the fascinate does include gpu overclocking. No idea if that could ever be implemented on the charge. If it could it would probably have to be an MTD based kernel like glitch that is currently for MUIU and Cyanogen roms.
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Holy dead thread batman! At any rate we can't increase GPU clockspeed because it's probably controlled at a hardware level, rather than variable by kernel.
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All of my phone gpus have clockspeed dials on them.
And not to be even more of a smartass but the kernel is in fact the exact piece of software that interacts with the hardware so you kind of contradicted yourself.
It has been done with glitch kernel. Haven't seen any tw kernels that support it.
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All of my phone gpus have clockspeed dials on them.
And not to be even more of a smartass but the kernel is in fact the exact piece of software that interacts with the hardware so you kind of contradicted yourself.
It has been done with glitch kernel. Haven't seen any tw kernels that support it.
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I meant that we don't have anything in the kernel that can adjust the clockspeed. I don't really know about any other phones since this is my first smartphone. I just say what I feel is correct. And yes, we may eventually be able to control it through an AOSP kernel, but we don't have that right now, so I don't think it's relevant information.
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Chocolate Ice Cream Sandwiches?
I came from the Fascinate and the Glitch Kernel with CM7 was really rocking. If we ever get GPU overclocking it would very likely come with the same combo or a Glitch CM9 combo either of which is a long way off.
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Chocolate Ice Cream Sandwiches?
I came from the Fascinate and the Glitch Kernel with CM7 was really rocking. If we ever get GPU overclocking it would very likely come with the same combo or a Glitch CM9 combo either of which is a long way off.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like what we would need for this to work is a working ASOP kernel, thus we would need an official Gingerbread OTA update first (maybe not 100% necessary, but it should be easier?) in order to base the kernel on?
Even with a working ASOP kernel, I assume that it would have to be specially modded to allow GPU control.
Not that I expect CM7 or CM9, I'm pretty happy with the latest leak, but it seems that CM7 or CM9 would more or less be a requirement for this to work? I hear that MIUI is not in development for the Charge because the lack of LTE in China.
Keep in mind that the Charge is my first smartphone so I'm sort of a nube.
Big thanks to the devs who turned this phone from crap into gold!
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I have a Droid X, a Droid Charge and my brother has an incredible 2. We both have chainfire installed and for some reason verysingle game plays many times smoother on the htc with the adreno 205 than on my charge with the sgx 540? any reason for that? even the games that are coded for tegra devices run on his so much smoother. i tried a game called falling fred, lags some on my charge, runs super smooth on the inc2, i have a galaxy tab 10.1 also runs super realy nice on that, and on my droid x it runs about the same as the charge. there is nothing wrong with my charge because ive played with 3 or 4 of them and they are all the same way. Any solutions?
Sound like you need some voodoo lagfix in your life lol... Are you running any custom roms or have custom kernals installed
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I agree with cold... Go for some lagfix
Charged up post!
i have voodoo lagfix courtesy of peanutbutta jelly time i really need a way to fix it
The SGX540 in these Samsung devices are underclocked severely. They are more capable but they can stand quite a bit of overclocking. Some devices come with the same gpu clocked at 385Mhz instead of 200Mhz.
The lag fix is ok but once we get a CM7 build it will look sloooooow. Been there done that.
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The lag fix is ok but once we get a CM7 build it will look sloooooow. Been there done that.
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Once we get an omgb/omfgb build, cm7 will look sloooow this phone seriously needs the mtd treatment tho
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Once we get an omgb/omfgb build, cm7 will look sloooow this phone seriously needs the mtd treatment tho
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I think I would rather see CM7 implementation if for no other reason than their dedication to constant updates. And they are all pretty much the same mtd based thing. OMGB shouldn't be any faster than CM7 and it lacks features.
Just my experience from the fascinate. Omgb and omfgb *seemed* smoother, not that cm7 was slow. And they pump out updates for their roms pretty regularly. If you don't think they're dedicated, then you don't know t3hh4xx0r.
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I bailed on the Fascinate just as both CM and OMG came out so I missed out on all the fun....
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I bailed on the Fascinate just as both CM and OMG came out so I missed out on all the fun....
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And what fun it was. Glitch kernel allowed gpu overclocking. **** was intense. 1.6ghz cpu overclock and aggressive undervolting were commonplace due to the stability that mtd brought.
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Just my experience from the fascinate. Omgb and omfgb *seemed* smoother, not that cm7 was slow. And they pump out updates for their roms pretty regularly. If you don't think they're dedicated, then you don't know t3hh4xx0r.
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It's not that I think they aren't dedicated, but the system in place for CM7 updates is far more structured and doesn't depend on one or two peoples' dedication.
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I bailed on the Fascinate just as both CM and OMG came out so I missed out on all the fun....
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I was able to run mtd a week or so, was absolutely amazing.
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And what fun it was. Glitch kernel allowed gpu overclocking. **** was intense. 1.6ghz cpu overclock and aggressive undervolting were commonplace due to the stability that mtd brought.
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Yeah, I could never overclock my Fascinate much before MTD. I was pulling 3000 quadrant scores at 1.4Ghz with a 233Mhz GPU clock speed i believe on the Glitch ML kernel and it actually run a good 8-10 hours that way to boot.
i refuse to have a phone that runs at less than its capabitlities. we need that gpu overclock! any devs can port it?
i refuse to have a phone that runs at less than its capabitlities. we need that gpu overclock! any devs can port it?
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Then do something about it yourself. Glitch is an aosp kernel so porting isn't really an option until we have aosp roms to make use of it so that's quite a ways away. A gpu overclock may be possible on tw but I haven't ever heard of it being done and the devs capable of working on it probably have enough on their plate as it is. But who knows, maybe someone will pick it up I guess we'll see.
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I openly consider the opinions of those who are for or against overclocking, I have heard both sides of the argument regarding its usefulness. Personally, I'm not fully decided. I respectfully ask we keep the thread on topic- posting your overclocks!
Here is mine with no noticeable heat or stability issues.
1.252 GHz
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I have heard people getting 1.4 GHz with the Charge, although I have heard of that some can't get above 1.2 GHz stable.
1.3 ghz Performance
EP4 Debloated
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Quadrant score: rape
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1.3 ghz Performance
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Rape +7
1.3 ghz. Govoner is performance
Quadrant score runs at about 2700 3000 btw quadrantts do mean anything other than a bunch of stupid numbers
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I go the opposite route. Rather than overclocking, I'm undervolting. It really helps battery life and doesn't affect your performance. I'm running stock clocks with -30mV across the board using Tegrak with the interactiveX governor on EP4 at the moment. Using StabilityTest from the Market in scaling mode to test stability. Going to try to drop the voltages down a bit more soon, as I've been fully stable for almost a week on these.
over 9000!
No way your over 9000
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No way your over 9000
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I'm pretty sure that was a commentary on the complete uselessness of Quadrant scores
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over 9000!
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pretty sure this guy was joking. Sounds like a line from a show. Can't remember the name though (it's over 9000!!!!!!!)
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pretty sure this guy was joking. Sounds like a line from a show. Can't remember the name though (it's over 9000!!!!!!!)
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Dragon Ball Z. And yes, Quadrant is probably the least useful of benchmarks.
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Dragon Ball Z. And yes, Quadrant is probably the least useful of benchmarks.
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I actually find Quadrant useful for verifying lagfix and verifying over or under clocks.
One thing that overclocking allowed for was smoothing out 480p Flash video in the Browser that was choppy before.
Now that you guys vented your overclocking and Quadrant hate, back to the posting your overclocks!
*EDIT* Forgot to ask, does anybody know if there is an appreciable difference in battery life when overclocking at stock voltage? Theoretically, battery life should be the same no matter the clock speeds if the voltage is constant.
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I actually find Quadrant useful for verifying lagfix and verifying over or under clocks.
One thing that overclocking allowed for was smoothing out 480p Flash video in the Browser that was choppy before.
Now that you guys vented your overclocking and Quadrant hate, back to the posting your overclocks!
*EDIT* Forgot to ask, does anybody know if there is an appreciable difference in battery life when overclocking at stock voltage? Theoretically, battery life should be the same no matter the clock speeds if the voltage is constant.
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Overclocking without a kernel that supports undervolting probably scales the voltage up appropriately.
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I actually find Quadrant useful for verifying lagfix and verifying over or under clocks.
One thing that overclocking allowed for was smoothing out 480p Flash video in the Browser that was choppy before.
Now that you guys vented your overclocking and Quadrant hate, back to the posting your overclocks!
*EDIT* Forgot to ask, does anybody know if there is an appreciable difference in battery life when overclocking at stock voltage? Theoretically, battery life should be the same no matter the clock speeds if the voltage is constant.
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If you look at the overclock app it actually runs on medium volt. ..
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That is not true. Transistors have different power dissipation when they are switching versus when they are not. The faster you clock them the higher the power dissipation even when the voltage to them is the same.
I can't believe how long it took for someone point out the DBZ reference on a message board filled with nerds.
Hi.
I a speed freak! If there is something I hate, is lag.
I therefore thought of using a better kernel for my G2x.
As I understand, some kernels can OC the cpu. Wow. That's cool, first of all.
Second - any conclusions about this? Is it safe? Does it really make a difference (i don't game on my G2x)?
THANKS!
Since you obviously don't know how to use the search function, I'll just tell you that it is perfectly safe to install a kernel and constantly run it at 1.5 Gh.
Go buy setcpu from the market to set your processor speed at Max, and leave it there. All the time. No matter what.
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Since you obviously don't know how to use the search function, I'll just tell you that it is perfectly safe to install a kernel and constantly run it at 1.5 Gh.
Go buy setcpu from the market to set your processor speed at Max, and leave it there. All the time. No matter what.
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Haha, good answer..Or you can go and download CPU master for free. =)... But honestly overclocking is not good
There's no real speed difference when overclocking install a custom kernel but don't overclocking it its a waste of battery
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risks? yes. it kills your battery faster, and battery life will drop. by battery life, i mean the amount of recharge/discharge cycles it normally will allow will drop.
pros? makes your phone much faster. and no its not a placebo. if you bump up your kernel from 1ghz to 1.5ghz, thats obviously a speed increase. how can it not be faster.
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But also the risk at a constant 1.5 of overheating and burn out of the processor.
if you're a noob and don't know exactly what OC is, don't do that.
it can kill your battery and processor much faster, make you're phone unstable and accidentally overheat and burn out your processor, if you have a constant OC
processor life is worth the wait imo
I oc mine tops 1.2 and its as fast as it needs to be for my needs. I also bump up the minimal speed to about 500-800 cuz our g2x's should never be running that slow even when idle/screen off imo.
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But also the risk at a constant 1.5 of overheating and burn out of the processor.
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I set my cpu to run at minimum when the temp reaches a certain level. It's never actually happened though...my phone runs real cool at 1.4ghz
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Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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at the risk of offending you, I would not recommend setting your phone to 2ghz..I can assure you nothing great in the long term is going to happen. As for kernels give LordClockan and TalonAce a glance, I'm not 100% sure if they are 2ghz kernels but its a good jumping off point
2ghz will fry your CPU. Maybe not initially buy your phone will definitely fail prematurely. The only reasons other people do it is because they can and they probably have a newer phone for their daily. Even just overclocking a little bit can have a negative impact but not as drastic. If you insist on overclocking I wouldnt exceed 1.4.
With that said there are several Aosp kernels that will allow you to push it to the limit. Just search the dev forum.
Overclocking your cpu will not hurt it unless its running hotter than the cooling system can handle. It will cause lock ups and failure to boot. If you start overvolting it, you WILL cause premature damage to the chip itself. Optimum overclock has always been 10-20% increase for any processor. Personally id rather underclock and undervolt a little, runs cooler and less power drain.
gizmoe is right, 2ghz is a 'just cuz i can' overclock. it wont run stable at that level. its like the 8ghz overclocks you see on the intel processors using LN2 cooling lol.
2ghz is bad.
I ran my inspire at 2ghz and besides the battery practically counting down the phones was heating up and that was maybe 15 minutes. Definitely not a goods idea.
Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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Setcpu use to be the go to app but many found it to lag after waking the phone. Many have now moved on to daemon controller. From the looks of it you're using CM7 which has the function built in..I believe its menu > settings > CM settings > performance...or something like that...don't check set on boot until you know how much OC your phone can candle. If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
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If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
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I've clocked to 2ghz a few times just to get a crazy quadrant score but that's about it. I usually keep mine somewhere in the 900mhz range with a little lite uv'ing and found that to be plenty.
2ghz can definitely be bad for your cpu..... Like to much bacon can be bad for your arteries.....
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TripnRaver has released a 2.2 ghz undervolted kernel for the sensation!!!!! Its actually stable and it doesn't rape battery life!! Unbelievable!
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TripnRaver has released a 2.2 ghz undervolted kernel for the sensation!!!!! Its actually stable and it doesn't rape battery life!! Unbelievable!
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does he have a Corsair Hydro Series H100 Cooler strapped to it?
Hahaha not even! Its barely getting warm for me! I LOVE that guy
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Could you previously overclock to 1836 without problems? I only ask as that clock for me way back was too much.Wondered if he had cracked the "only for some devices"
I was made aware that it is not 2.2ghz and is actually 1.78ghz with false identification on actual speed, trip has been made aware of this whether he did it intentially or by accident.
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Hahaha not even! Its barely getting warm for me! I LOVE that guy
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so what exactly does this do for the performance of your phone? Is it just apps opening up faster and games a little better?
I understand the performance gains in cpu overclocking for computers in that you get faster encoding for videos, maybe a few more fps in gaming etc but how noticeable is doing an overclock for your phone?
Is it more of a just because you can or is there a real benefit to the user that they can notice?
A 30% overclock on your PC might give you 10-15% better performance but does that equate to similar improvements with a moving to 1.5 or 1.78ghz on your phone?
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I was made aware that it is not 2.2ghz and is actually 1.78ghz with false identification on actual speed, trip has been made aware of this whether he did it intentially or by accident.
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Haha I want to use a kernel that says "5.0GHz" just to show off to other people
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Haha I want to use a kernel that says "5.0GHz" just to show off to other people
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why stop at 5? carry a bottle of Liquid Nitrogen with you and the sky is the limit !!
Even IF it isn't 2.2 (which surprises me) it is INCREDIBLY snappy and faster than when I was running sebastianFM's 1.728 or whatever and benchmarks are pretty damn high
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Even IF it isn't 2.2 (which surprises me) it is INCREDIBLY snappy and faster than when I was running sebastianFM's 1.728 or whatever and benchmarks are pretty damn high
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let us know how its going after a week or so please
Eh, not amazed but it's decent I guess... Coming from the Glacier we have a kernel capable of 2.1GHz but I never go above 1.4 anyway. Clock speed isn't everything.
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so what exactly does this do for the performance of your phone? Is it just apps opening up faster and games a little better?
I understand the performance gains in cpu overclocking for computers in that you get faster encoding for videos, maybe a few more fps in gaming etc but how noticeable is doing an overclock for your phone?
Is it more of a just because you can or is there a real benefit to the user that they can notice?
A 30% overclock on your PC might give you 10-15% better performance but does that equate to similar improvements with a moving to 1.5 or 1.78ghz on your phone?
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It's a balance there is only so much you can get out of the CPU in anything once it passes the threshold you get less from it more heat less life we are at 1.2 default I would say after 2.0 we won't get much more but a dead battery is 3 hrs I got mine at 1.1 I am good with battery vs power consumption
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It's a balance there is only so much you can get out of the CPU in anything once it passes the threshold you get less from it more heat less life we are at 1.2 default I would say after 2.0 we won't get much more but a dead battery is 3 hrs I got mine at 1.1 I am good with battery vs power consumption
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so you downclocked yours by .1GHZ? why did you do this?
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so you downclocked yours by .1GHZ? why did you do this?
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He just said it...the battery consumption is much better. I don't run any apps/games which need the higher clock rates. So I also underclocked to 1.1 Ghz and I'm very happy with it.
Yes I saw this kernel! This is awesome! But my phone will fry i think
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I also underclocked to 1.1 Ghz and I'm very happy with it.
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so going from 1.2 down to 1.1 improved battery life?? By how long?
A lot but I have set cpu and can jump to 1.7 easy
You tell me as of now what app needs more then 1.1 1.2 ??? Once phone boots up the phone don't need more then that
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I beleave the CPU speed is at max when you boot up and I don't run benchmark allday everyday lol
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