Does ROM determine root? - T-Mobile LG G2x

I flashed my G2x with the V21E rom located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196019 now since this is an UNMODIFIED ROM does that mean my phone is no longer rooted? I have to make sure because it's being sent back to tmobile for random reboot issues. I was under the assumption that it wasn't rooted, but I ran a few tests and they have me even more confused. Terminal Emulator shows a $, when I type "su" it says permission denied and shows a $ again instead of a #. The app Root Checker says under basic mode that my phone is not rooted, but under advanced it alternates between rooted and not rooted, meaning each time I hit verify under advanced I may get either answer. Titanium Backup says it can't establish root. Any help would be appreciated, I posted a similar question in another thread but I'm afraid it's lost in the shuffle...

i know its a noob question, but anyone?

Xerphon said:
I flashed my G2x with the V21E rom located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196019 now since this is an UNMODIFIED ROM does that mean my phone is no longer rooted? I have to make sure because it's being sent back to tmobile for random reboot issues. I was under the assumption that it wasn't rooted, but I ran a few tests and they have me even more confused. Terminal Emulator shows a $, when I type "su" it says permission denied and shows a $ again instead of a #. The app Root Checker says under basic mode that my phone is not rooted, but under advanced it alternates between rooted and not rooted, meaning each time I hit verify under advanced I may get either answer. Titanium Backup says it can't establish root. Any help would be appreciated, I posted a similar question in another thread but I'm afraid it's lost in the shuffle...
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The post says it's an unmodified, stock ROM so your phone should no longer be rooted.
One way to find out: try to running an app that requires or tries to get root privileges. Root Explorer is one, so is Titanium Backup.
EDIT: Take a look at this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16361917&postcount=1). It's a decent, workable explanation.

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Thunderbolt - How to confirm root?

I just performed the manual root on the HTC Thunderbolt. I was able to get all the way to Step 9 without any problems. Downloaded Superuser and ROM Manager and successfully flashed ClockworkMod Recovery (CWM).
How can I confirm whether or not the root was successful?
Now I am trying to use Titanium Backup and it says that it cannot obtain root access?
I remember one hiccup in the rooting process. When I was on step 6, I typed adb reboot bootloader. As it was flashing the ROM PG05IMG.zip, it had that list of 9 parameters. I don't remember what all of the were called. However, I got OK on all of them except for the 7th or 8th parameter (I think it was tp). Instead of OK, it got BYPASS.
Is that a problem?
With assistance from #andirc, I figured this out.
I had root access the entire time.
Using Titanium Backup, it asked for BusyBox. That was the problem. I simply went to the Market, downloaded and installed busybox. Then Titaniumbackup worked.
Checking root access is done simply by going to the market and downloading root checker.
I answer my own questions in threads just in case anyone else runs along this problem in the future and needs help! Otherwise, this thread can be deleted.

My rooted mytouch slide 3g is rooted but says it isnt

okay well i had rooted my mytouch slide 3g. I can flash roms on it and go to the recovery and everything. But when i go to the rom manager or the wifi tether it says it can find some folder n then it doesnt work.. What is wrong or what did i do wrong.. Most appreciated if you answer
Did you make sure busybox is installed?
If you're not sure, go into Titanium Backup Root. Choose menu > problems? and it should install the most recent version of Busybox. You can also download Root Checker from the market & it'll tell you if you're rooted & if you have busybox. I know on the Evo, it will say s-off in the bootloader if you're rooted (s-on if you're not).
Although it certainly sounds like you're rooted. Make sure you have Superuser installed as well. If you've confirmed all of these, I would suggest asking in the q&a forum for your device & giving the exact message you receive with those apps. Someone over there could probably help more than I can.
plainjane said:
Did you make sure busybox is installed?
If you're not sure, go into Titanium Backup Root. Choose menu > problems? and it should install the most recent version of Busybox. You can also download Root Checker from the market & it'll tell you if you're rooted & if you have busybox. I know on the Evo, it will say s-off in the bootloader if you're rooted (s-on if you're not).
Although it certainly sounds like you're rooted. Make sure you have Superuser installed as well. If you've confirmed all of these, I would suggest asking in the q&a forum for your device & giving the exact message you receive with those apps. Someone over there could probably help more than I can.
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thanks ill try getting busybox, i had did not know i needed it

[Q] Help!!!

Ok I have updated to the Official OTA Gingerbread as provided by Sprint. Now keep in mind I stay on these forums to also change my roms and stuff of that nature. Now I searched and found that xHausx had rooted the official release of GB and I proceed and obviously do everything down to the T. Well since I dont have a reboot and then recovery option in my power menu, I have TERMINAL EMULATOR installed and so I type in SU and I get the ALLOW OR DENY request from SU app and it gives me the # so I type in reboot and I get the message "not permitted!" so now im like wtf? - can someone please help me figure out why the root feels half assed? (no discredit to his work...) Im just tryna figure out how im rooted but when I try to reboot I cant....any help would also be appreciated!

Please help me with ADB

I don't know why ADB is not working while normally booted! It works when in recovery, please help me. I am using Senseless version 3.7.1
cwest31 said:
I don't know why ADB is not working while normally booted! It works when in recovery, please help me. I am using Senseless version 3.7.1
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Read this entire guide.
blackknightavalon said:
Read this entire guide.
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koooooooooooool
reinstalled sdk following instructions carefully! its not an sdk problem
cwest31 said:
reinstalled sdk following instructions carefully! its not an sdk problem
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ADB is part of the SDK.
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cwest31 said:
I don't know why ADB is not working while normally booted! It works when in recovery, please help me. I am using Senseless version 3.7.1
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There is literally no information in this posting that someone can use to help you.
Blackknightavalon's direction to the SDK webpage is about as helpful of a reply as you can expect to solicit with the information you have provided.
This is like going to a car forum, and saying " I have a blue camaro. It won't start. I tried turning the key. Help please"
What commands are you trying to run through adb?
What errors are you getting, if any?
What do you see when you type "adb devices"
What operating system are you running on the computer you are trying to connect from?
Have you turned on "usb debugging" in the options menu on the phone?
There are a whole lot of things that can be your problem, and we'd love to help, but we can't help you if you don't tell us what's wrong.
Doubtless someone else will get back to you before I get a chance to, since my time is very limited these days online, but posting some more information about your problem will elicit a response that may actually help you.
Best of luck!
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There is literally no information in this posting that someone can use to help you.
Blackknightavalon's direction to the SDK webpage is about as helpful of a reply as you can expect to solicit with the information you have provided.
This is like going to a car forum, and saying " I have a blue camaro. It won't start. I tried turning the key. Help please"
What commands are you trying to run through adb?
What errors are you getting, if any?
What do you see when you type "adb devices"
What operating system are you running on the computer you are trying to connect from?
Have you turned on "usb debugging" in the options menu on the phone?
There are a whole lot of things that can be your problem, and we'd love to help, but we can't help you if you don't tell us what's wrong.
Doubtless someone else will get back to you before I get a chance to, since my time is very limited these days online, but posting some more information about your problem will elicit a response that may actually help you.
Best of luck!
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Make sure you have current adb drivers for your phone. It will show android composite in device manager. Fastboot will show fastboot device. Seeing a yellow question mark is bad.
Make sure your pathing is set up right.
Typing "adb devices" and if you see your device. If so you're ready to roll.
I usually get fastboot errors like this when I don't have drivers installed right.
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Droidmoder said:
Make sure you have current adb drivers for your phone. It will show android composite in device manager. Fastboot will show fastboot device. Seeing a yellow question mark is bad.
Make sure your pathing is set up right.
Typing "adb devices" and if you see your device. If so you're ready to roll.
I usually get fastboot errors like this when I don't have drivers installed right.
Adb is part of the adk. It's to help debug and install things via a directlink to the computer. Its found in platform tools and is considered a dev tool.
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I get Error Message with ADB
Hey guys, so I perm rooted with S-OFF my mytouch 4g slide, with theunlockr.com youtube video and guide using revolutionary. then I attempted to install a ROM with ROM MANAGER, and it got stuck on the splash/loading screen. After some searching I found out that this meant that I could have potentially BRICKED the phone, so I followed theunlockr.com's guide to UNROOTING the phone, and it worked, I flashed the original stock tmobile rom, and it loaded fine, I tried to start the whole process again, but now I get stuck in the very beginning, trying to get TEMP root, I start the fr3vo exploit like the guide stated, but then i keep getting error messages on the command line prompt saying that there is an error with ADB, then when I power the phone with volume down and power, the revolutionary is no longer on the top of the screen, but it still says SHIP S-OFF. Does that have to do anything with my problem? is there a way to GET S back to ON, so I can start the process over? or am I better off having S off??? I installed ROM MANAGER and tried to flash a recover image thinking that having S off would allow me to do this, but I get error messages saying there are problems with the permissions. the web site for the guide I used to root is this one incase anyone wants more details into what I did, any help would be greatly appreciated. theunlockr.com/2011/09/09/how-to-permanently-root-and-gain-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-slide-revolutionary-method
Use perm root method. Myself I flashed oneclick in recovery, but you can follow the guide the perm root part.
Btw rom manager supports flashing of the new cwm only. I checked the roms in rom manager they aren't supported. You have to go to the cm7 thread here and download and flash cm7 from recovery.
Just redo root process and install cwm from rom manager. Then go to the dev section and flash your favorite rom in recovery. My sig has directions on how to do everything.
Also if you're having permissions error use root explorer on the rom manager apk make sure it has execute checked. Also I think rom manager has a fix permissions button. Its never worked for me.
S off will allow flashing of cwm. However you need to be rooted to flash cwm threw rom manager. My sig has a guide on installing cwm without being rooted.
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Thanks for the QUICK reply, but I looked at the guide, and it stated I have to have recovery installed, BEFORE I do the perm root method, but I dont have recovery, when I do HBOOT, and I try to boot into recovery, I get a red exclamation mark on the screen and I have to end up taking out the battery. Thats why I was wondering if having S OFF from the beginning now is what is messing me up when I am trying to ROOT again, I mean, I am doing the same steps.... just now I get errors when I try to do the TEMP root step... so I cant continue... and I cant get ROM MANAGER to flash a recovery image... is there a guide or steps someplace that can guide me to root the MT4G slide already having S off?
I found the problem myself, I had to enable USB Debugging.
I had USB debugging enabled.... hmmmm you made me doubt myself... I guess I will try it again, since I flashed stock rom again all settings were reverted... so I cannot VERIFY I had USB debugging on, but I was sure I did... I will try again and post... I am reflashing the stock rom like 5 times a days trying to root again =(
wait... cwest31, you had which same problem? because I was writing about 2 problems: about booting into recovery with S off, but no recovery image (hence I got red exclamation mark), and trying to get ROM MANAGER to flash a recovery image on my phone since I have S off already, but I get error messages (problem with permissions)
RT2023 said:
I had USB debugging enabled.... hmmmm you made me doubt myself... I guess I will try it again, since I flashed stock rom again all settings were reverted... so I cannot VERIFY I had USB debugging on, but I was sure I did... I will try again and post... I am reflashing the stock rom like 5 times a days trying to root again =(
wait... cwest31, you had which same problem? because I was writing about 2 problems: about booting into recovery with S off, but no recovery image (hence I got red exclamation mark), and trying to get ROM MANAGER to flash a recovery image on my phone since I have S off already, but I get error messages (problem with permissions)
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Umm...did you read the full instructions very carefully? When you get to the part where you flash the Superuser .zip file, you need to try it several times before it'll hold.
blackknightavalon said:
Umm...did you read the full instructions very carefully? When you get to the part where you flash the Superuser .zip file, you need to try it several times before it'll hold.
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What he said.
Also ROM MANAGER WILL NOT WORK UNLESS ROOTED. Get rooted then try flashing the image. The compendium also has step by step guides using terminal emulator once rooted
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Also I want you op and the other one to be clear on what s off is and root.
Getting S OFF allows unsigned zips to be flashed. This means you can now flash roms and root. Without s off you cannot root, rom, kernels. S OFF is not root.
Root is gaining admin rights over your phone. this allows programs that require access to the root files to have access to them. ROM Manager, titanium backup, drocap, setcpu will be granted access to the root files and programs which unrooted phones would not be granted access .
This can be a reason why you two are having trouble using rom manager unrooted. Rom manager cannot access the files it needs
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Please go follow this thread ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178606. It tells you how to Permanently root a device that is already s-off.
AWESOME!!! turns out i just had to run revolutionary TWICE, and the second time it figured out it was already rooted and then asked if I wanted to install recovery, I dont know how to do it manually so I clicked yes, and THEN i was able to go into recovery and flash the PERM root ZIP, rebooted and i had SUPERUSER in my app drawer!!!! awesome, now to try to get the version of google talk installed that actually allows for video chat!!! I HATE QIK!!!!!!
DROIDMODER, CWEST31: Thanks so much for the lenghty explanation and help. I have loved android for the ability to customize, and I had the G1, MOTOCLIQ, G2, and now MT4GS, I rooted my G2, but didnt do anything to it because i was scared to F it up, but with the MT4GS I got the balls to do it just because I was SOOOO UPSET that the phone comes with a version of GTALK that does NOT ALLOW FOR VIDEO CHAT!!?!?! WTF!!! whats the front camera for then?! and QIK sucks, not all my friends are on tmobile... i was even more upset when the HTC AMAZE has a version of GTALK that does allow for video chat straight out of the box!!! this is my main push to wanting to root... thanks for letting me vent! lol and thanks for all your great info
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AWESOME!!! turns out i just had to run revolutionary TWICE, and the second time it figured out it was already rooted and then asked if I wanted to install recovery, I dont know how to do it manually so I clicked yes, and THEN i was able to go into recovery and flash the PERM root ZIP, rebooted and i had SUPERUSER in my app drawer!!!! awesome, now to try to get the version of google talk installed that actually allows for video chat!!! I HATE QIK!!!!!!
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Your welcome! now procead to install undead's senseless ROM (Best Rom available) and also get rom manager and flash the official CWM recovery! Also proceed to "thank."
mmmm... I tried to install a ROM before and thats what F-ed everything up =/ I am hesitant, I really want a Gtalk version that allows for video chat, does the senseless rom have video gchat capabilities??

CWM recovery and bootloader issues

Hey guys
(Sorry think i posted this in the wrong section first time round)
Got a MID816R2 stuck on 2.3.1 seen some nice new Roms out there and firmware updates, but cant seem to get them onto the device! Rom manager clockworkmod recovery does not list this device so cant use this (unless someone can tell me different)
Terminal emulator gets denied by Superuser.
even tried ADB, but get a permission denied message
Other issue is even though i can transfer files via USB direct to PC, and device is shown on ADB, there seems to be a driver issue in recovery mode, tell me no driver for android 1.0 strange cos i am running 2.3.1 which came from the seller installed
Is there any kind of Bootloader unlock tool????
Anyone knowing any way to update the firmware or install Roms on this device please help :-(
If you're getting a permission error using ADB then make sure you type sudo in front of it.
ROM Manager put out an update today to help with new or unrecognized devices. But let me ask you this. Have you rooted it first before you try and flash CWM and junk?
Hi,
Thanks for the first response
Yes its rooted (using superoneclick)
I think the bootloader is locked from the seller? i did hear they are releasing rom manager 5 soon, so if they do list the MID816R2 my issue should be solved?
When you say type sudo in front of it, you mean in front of ADB or ADB then SUDO then command?
Thanks again ;-
I mean type sudo before anything else in the command.
If SU is denying you then you're not rooted. Or SU is just being silly. Make sure your binary is updated for SU and if you're still getting permission errors and whatnot try rooting it again. I've seen it before where it only does a halfway root and installs SU without actually gaining root access.
Thanks for the advice, i used root checker, and it says rooted and busy box installed? used superoneclick to get root as nothing else was working, is there anything better to get root? (although i do think its rooted)
Try the super one click root. Put the phone on debug mode. More information add on msn. [email protected]
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