[Q] Clockworkmod Recovery question - General Questions and Answers

My apologies if this has been asked and answered before, I did a quick search and didn't find it.
I have a Thunderbolt (probably irrelevant, though) and I have it rooted and Clockworkmod Recovery is on there.
Once i got rooted, I took a backup with CWMR. Then, I installed an updated radio and a Gingerbread-based ROM. Once I got that going, took a backup of that, too.
So, enough explaining what is probably irrelevant anyway and on to my question.
Question: If I restore an old backup that was made with CWMR, will it also revert the radio software that was on the phone when that backup was taken? (each of my ROMs, stock and the custom one, had different radio software installed)
Hope my question makes sense.

No, the radio flashes are separate from your nandroid backups; that code is stored in a different part of the phone. It's why you have to go into hboot to flash the radios. If you flash a new rom, or restore a backup, your radio flash will still be intact. (hopefully I'm understanding your question correctly)

That did answer my question. Thanks. It would be great if that worked somehow so the nandroid backup could contain everything you need.

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Newbie, please help, nandroid problems...

Hi,
I hope this is in the right section....
I have recently put the QTEK 1.6 Hero ROM on my Sapphire (UK MAGIC), and its ok but I preferred the stock ROM.
I have obviously done a nandroid backup using the RAV1.2.1G recovery image, using the one-click method (http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/29/how-to-root-the-htc-magic-in-one-click/).
I want to revert back to the stock ROM using my nandroid backup. I have follwed the instructions on these forums on how to do it, but I keep getting a problem.
I use the flashboot flash system system.img, it says sending, then writing, but when it comes to verifying info something or other, it says failed, something and something about unable to verify signature (happens on data and boot imgs too).
Is this something to do with SPL, do I need to update my SPL to restore, I have downloaded HARDSPL (version?) but have not gone any further as I dont want a brick....
Any help would be much appreciated.....
Thank you
If you were able to make a nandroid backup with your current SPL, then i assume thats not the problem.
Are you sure the files of your backup is still on your SD-card, and its (foldername "nandroid") location is root on SD-card..?
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
Yes the nandroid folder is on the root of the sdcard, i've managed to get it working. Very strange??
What I did was to ignore the windows way of restoring, I just booted into recovery and selected nandroid restore, pressed green and hey presto, it worked? Now I tried that before and it said use adb in windows... maybe i missed a file or didnt press something correctly, at least I have my stock and apps back now...
Will try tinkering again though...got to be done... QTEKs rom has a few bugs, want to try Cyanogens, but i cant find his rom anywhere (i realise the issues with google)
Then i guess your SD-card wasnt ready mounted the moment you tried to recover.
He didn't recover via recovery, but via SPL.
so, do 1clickroot again, but instead of flashing a rom in recovery, select: restore nandroid recovery.
What if
What if we never created a Nandroid backup of the OEM ROM from our phone?
Will we still be able to return to the original ROM if we'd like for warranty purposes? I have flashed a Hero ROM and the OEM Tmo for Root Users and AmonRA Recovery. I haven't flashed any Radios or SPLs or anything though.
Just curious, thanks.
I downloaded the Unroot IMage which is exactly the release I used to have, COC10, is this the ROM I need for warranty purposes?

Vodafone UK Radio

Hi,
So I recently tried to do some modding, and I followed the guide (so I thought) for putting the Google ION firmware on my HTC Magic. The guide said, recovery image, I flashed recovery image.
Apparently I've flash the radio too...and they didn't mean recovery image they meant system image.
Is there a way to resolve this?
I'd really appreciate the help, I'd like to get my hands on the VFUK Radio or complete recovery image.
Could use this too
Orig Voda UK Nandroid backup
I've got my CRA71C nandroid backup I made after I got my Magic on the 3rd May. I found out shortly after buying it that it was a dev build firmware that should never have been released into the wild (already rooted) if that's any use?
Not 100% sure, but at the moment I'm willing to try anything, and I can get onto the recovery and get to Nandroid, so should help. I just need to find the right image to flash.
i thought they have same radio? being both 32B?
They are the same radio, as I've just discovered.
But for some reason it didn't work at all, but I followed some guide about reverting to a 32B Radio. So I wiped the whole thing, boot, recovery, system, etc. Installing the OTA update, and amon_RAs recovery, same problem again, but instead of booting into the system, I rebooted it into fastboot, flashed radio.img from the radio download on the HTC site, and it worked.
Not sure exactly what the problem was, but it's resolved now, thankfully.

[Q] Quick questions about Roms...

Hello.
I have a droid incredible. 2.2 with clockwork mod and root. My question is about backing up and flashing new roms. I made a manual backup via clockwork mod of my current configuration. I'd like to test out new roms that other people have made, but I want to make sure I can always get back to my original (current) configuration via the backup. My question is if I flash another rom and it changed my radio/kernel version, will that be a problem if I try and restore my backup? Does my clockwork mod contain my current kernel/radio versions? And are there any 'gotchas' that I need to know about before I start flashing new roms? BTW, I'm planning to use rom manager to download the roms I want to test out. I saw some are upgrading the kernel and radio and this is why I'm asking if the clockwork mod backup that I took is all-encompassing.
Thanks.

I hate me [n00b question]

So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.
So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. Unlocking the bootloader is needed to flash CWM and SU. I have read many many things about NANDROID, how is NANDROID different from CWM?
So I guess my next question is: How does one remove SU? In the process of rooting and flashing CWM and ROMs I make a backup prior to going to deep... that Backup will have SU, I have unrooted, but SU is still on the phone and I cannot seem to remove it.
Another question is: where are the data files on the phone for apps like Plants vs Zombies? I would like to move them off my phone prior to root, though I'm not sure if that is possible (is it?).
The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.
Thanks for any and all help,
toonhead
toonhead85 said:
So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.
So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. This process is needed to flash CWM (but not -su?). I have read many many things about NANDROID, but I have no idea what that is except a backup of a stock rom. When I power my phone off and press Vol up and power on then go to recovery I get an Android w/ a triangle with an exclamation and cant do anything at that point.
So I guess my next question is: How does one backup a stock rom (like you would using CMW) without rooting? or is there not a way and I should just except that when I root for the first time I should expect to loose everything and take off things like pics ect before hand.
The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.
Thanks for any and all help,
toonhead
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Sounds like you should have read more.
When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back
Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.
Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.
The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.
Naroid is just a backup.
Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet
obsanity said:
Sounds like you should have read more.
When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back
Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.
Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.
The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.
Naroid is just a backup.
Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet
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i was going to write something similar. toonhead85 you should do a bit more research and reading before you start hacking on your phone. youve hearts in the right place, but youre not quite ready just yet. at least take small steps at first
A little more clarification or nandroid backups:
Nandroid is a specific type of backup of the phone's system files. I think that includes system rom and radio. I not sure if any data is included in the backup. You should make a nandroid backup of the stock rom bbefore you flash any custom roms. If something goes wrong with a rom flash or if you want to restore to a previous stock or custom rom, you can restore from the backups you have made. You create these nandroid backups by booting into recovery and selecting the backup option (I think maybe named backup and restore). Backups are usually found on your SD card, but you can copy them to your computer to save additional copies.
If you want to also backup apps, get a good backup program from the market. Two that I have used are Titanium Backup for Root and MyBackups for Root. They can backup and restore apps and data as well as system data.
Thanks for all of the amazing replys. I do know that I am not at the point where I wanna muck around in the system to much as this is my one and only phone. But I would like to at some point.
But something I wanna know is this: If in flash CWM, can I use it without root? Say to make a backup of the stock rom before flashing SU? I only ask because I am currently at work and can't test the idea.
Another question is this: I know how to get to the stock recovery, but from what I read you use the VOL UP to get the "Menu". When I push any (hardware) button I get nothing and the image being displayed is an Android with a triangle and there is an exclimation point in it. Any thoughts?
a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring
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a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring
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and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?
toonhead85 said:
and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?
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unlocked bootloader
FANTASTIC!!! Thank you all so very much!!
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unlocked bootloader
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And CWM recovery.
You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G
And CWM recovery.
You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.
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So I could flash unlock my bootloader > flash CWM > Make a backup and save it to my computer then when i reboot my phone it would automatically reflash the stock recovery? and if this is correct, then all i would need to do is flash CWM to restore the saved backup?
So here's a question, is it the action of flashing SU that keeps the phone from removing CWM and reinstalling stock recovery?
You must rename the /system/etc/install-recovery.sh file or it will keep replacing the stock recovery. See this post, item 2.

[Q] cm10 unintall method for htc one v (india-gsm)

i have installed cm10 on htc one v primo-u (india gsm ) and i wish to revert to the original image.
i tried to flash India_1567201recovery_signed.img file but no success.
can someone help me with a procedure how to revert to either 1.56.720 or 2.09.720 image of the phone
romah1 said:
i have installed cm10 on htc one v primo-u (india gsm ) and i wish to revert to the original image.
i tried to flash India_1567201recovery_signed.img file but no success.
can someone help me with a procedure how to revert to either 1.56.720 or 2.09.720 image of the phone
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How did you try to flash the RUU? You can not flash it like a normal ROM
Also if you are looking for the RUU try HERE
I see what you're trying to do, that won't work...you can't flash a recovery to get to stock because stock phone won't flash from recovery, which is why once you get root the first thing you do is flash a custom recovery. Use the RUU to flash it back to shipped state stock, or if you are trying to keep root and just want to use a different ROM. More clarification on what you are trying to accomplish would be nice.
If you did a Nandroid prior to flashing CM10 I would wipe all partitions except SD and restore the Nandroid, if all you want to do is get CM10 off your phone. Remember Nandroid Backups are your friend do them before flashing anything and save them to your PC if you don't want the SD space taken. Doing this has made flashing pain free and hassle free. If I don't like how my phone is running after a flash I can always get it right back to how it was when I was happy with it. Lastly there was a time when I had a Nandroid backup of a Sense ROM and was on AOSP and wanted to flash back to Sense, well my Backup wouldn't flash. After spending hours raising hell I did a clean install of the ROM booted once, then rebooted into recovery and flashed the Nandroid backup that had the settings I was using (when I was on Sense, it won't restore data and apps used on AOSP)...sorry if its not much help but more details are needed. But you have a starting point.
ItzCrooK2UxD said:
How did you try to flash the RUU? You can not flash it like a normal ROM
Also if you are looking for the RUU try HERE
I see what you're trying to do, that won't work...you can't flash a recovery to get to stock because stock phone won't flash from recovery, which is why once you get root the first thing you do is flash a custom recovery. Use the RUU to flash it back to shipped state stock, or if you are trying to keep root and just want to use a different ROM. More clarification on what you are trying to accomplish would be nice.
If you did a Nandroid prior to flashing CM10 I would wipe all partitions except SD and restore the Nandroid, if all you want to do is get CM10 off your phone. Remember Nandroid Backups are your friend do them before flashing anything and save them to your PC if you don't want the SD space taken. Doing this has made flashing pain free and hassle free. If I don't like how my phone is running after a flash I can always get it right back to how it was when I was happy with it. Lastly there was a time when I had a Nandroid backup of a Sense ROM and was on AOSP and wanted to flash back to Sense, well my Backup wouldn't flash. After spending hours raising hell I did a clean install of the ROM booted once, then rebooted into recovery and flashed the Nandroid backup that had the settings I was using (when I was on Sense, it won't restore data and apps used on AOSP)...sorry if its not much help but more details are needed. But you have a starting point.
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i have installed CM10 without backing up any image, therefore i cannot restore the orifginal vendor's rom. Nandroid back would have prevented this situation. the second problem is that I couldnt find any RUU for this phone. indeed the link you attached seems to have it bu unfortunately it is in chineese and after pushing all the buttons i couldn't download the file. so my options are
1- to pray that someone will be kind enough to publish it in a manner that it is accessible
2- I have a friend with a simillar phone , can i somehow back up hus rom and restore it in mine ????
thank
romah1

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