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I have a device that used to belong to a MSFT employee. At Microsoft you can just hand in your device and they will put a new ROM on it for you. So first thing I did when I got it is to HardSPL (OliNex 1.90) it and load up a new ROM (the one on it was a couple of builds back, and GPS didn't work etc.).
The strange thing is that ROMS seem to be 'loosing' files (as far as I can tell - apps won't open etc.) after a few days of otherwise great operation. If the device is rebooted, it's almost like a hard-reset; although the installation takes next to no time: and it gets stuck on the splash. Hard resetting the device makes it work for a few days more. The device didn't have these problems with the MSFT ROM (which I stupidly didn't backup).
I have tried a few ROMs and they all seem to have the problem:
MagicROM_23541_Sense25_Mar01
TAELROM_v4.23541_SENSE_2.5_28FEB10_LD
Timolol_5100207TH (awesome ROM)
So my current plan:
Flash stock ROM.
Flash stock SPL.
Flash stock ROM (hoping it will clear anything funny MSFT put on it).
Hard SPL.
Flash Timolol Stock-Like (seems to have the problems the soonest - 2 days max).
Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks guys.
I assume since you posted in the Touch Pro2/Tilt 2 section, that you own one of those devices. The roms you have mentioned below are (I believe) for a touch pro/fuze device. That could be your problem. Although, I would assume that you have one as I'm sure a rom for a different device would even flash to the device period. If you have the right rom/device combo and its a touch pro, then you should post in the thread for the roms. More details such as network and device will help the most.
Ah crap - the dangers of having too many tabs open. Can I move the thread myself?
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Ah crap - the dangers of having too many tabs open. Can I move the thread myself?
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i moved it for you good luck at finding a solution
I don't think it's a hot idea to flash the stock spl. I'm not sure that it can be over-written with hard spl-you'll have to ask in the hard spl thread. If you do it, you might be stuck with the stock rom. Just try flashing the stock rom, then going to the custom one you want. That seems to work for a lot of people.
Farmer Ted said:
...Just try flashing the stock rom, then going to the custom one you want. That seems to work for a lot of people.
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Thanks, that is significantly fewer steps . I will do that for now and report back in 2 or so days...
Small update - just flashed the latest stock Fuze ROM. Just before the customization app come up I saw that device.exe crashed... In any case, I will see what happens with the custom ROM.
You may need to reformat the memory of your phone. Having device.exe crash on a stock rom during bootup is kind of weird. I've never done it myself, but there are threads on it in the Leo forum. I wouldn't try the apps that they've put together, though. I guess you can search around for "Task 29" to find out how to do it properly.
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@OP:
If the device was flashed on a regular basis, it's possible that the device flash memory is near end-of-life.
You could try running Raphael Diagnostics on it to see if that sorts it out.
HTH,
What is the lifespan (in terms of flashes) for a device like this?
Plus minus 2 days - it has been able to go as far as 5.
According to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-514940.html
These are good options:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435527
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491554
This one in particular: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3446141&postcount=16 (it applies to Rhodium, but people have had success with it).
Apparently Task 2a (equivalent of 29) is disabled on the OliNex 1.90 SPL - so I can't do a NAND format without reflashing the stock SPL (not that I would attempt that myself in any case ).
I'll run RaphaelDiagnostics and see if that comes up with anything.
Thanks for the help so far guys, I first want to see if the stock flash I did works (I smell a Wiki page).
I tried out the raphdiag-it's pretty cool. I've been having a few weird issues lately on my fuze. In particular, all of a sudden my boot-up time seems to have gotten slow (millisecond to idle thread went from 65-70 sec to 90-95 sec, and I hadn't messed with start up programs). Also, I have been having an issue with files on the main memory becoming corrupted, which has just been weird. Anyway, I ran an 'info 8' with mtty a few weeks ago, and it came up with 7 bad blocks, which seems normal. So, I ran raphdiag this morning, and ran the format nand routine. I was a little surprised, because after running it, I soft reset and the phone booted up normally like after a hard reset. I thought that it was going to wipe the entire rom memory clean, leaving only the radio, bootloader and splash screen. It didn't seem much different from a hard reset. The good news is that my startup is faster. With a setup I was using beforehand, the millisecond-to-idle-thread speed was 76 seconds, and after the format it was down to 71 seconds. However, I ran an 'info 8', and the memory analysis hadn't changed at all (same 7 bad blocks). I'm not sure if the formatting (task 29 or this) is supposed to clear that up, though.
I put both the raphdiag.nbh and a raphimg.nbh on the root of my normal 16 gb card. When you go into bootloader, it does a quick image update (takes about 2 seconds), then the screen tells you to push power for a rom update or push the action button to go into diagnostics. From there, you have maybe 4 or 5 choices. Scroll up and down with the up/down buttons, then push action. The first is a set of hardware tests, the second is something like 'run in/on', which appears to be a test scheduler. The 3d is the NAND format option, and I think the 4th and 5th options are 'calculate rom checksum' and then 'skuid', or something like that. To exit, I just soft reset, or used soft reset/vol down to go back to bootloader. After the format, I tried to flash (I think it called it re-flash), but it said there was no image present. You may need to do this on a clean card to get it to work (that is, format and then flash off the same card without swapping things out).
The diag tests are kind of cool. There's an auto mode that runs through all of them, but you have to do things to get it to work. The first is an LED test. The screen turns red, you stare at it for 5 min wondering what the hell is going on, then push the action button for the hell of it. Then the screen turns green. Push it a bunch more times, and it goes through shaded and checkered screens and whatnot, then it tells you it passed the test. There's a test for the slider, and you need to slide the keyboard in and out. The qwerty test was weird. It's configured for a touch pro (not a fuze), so I didn't know what the hell to do at first. The screen just says 'QWERTY_KBD_1', or something like that. I tried hitting the '1' button, and fn-1, and it did nothing. Then I just hit the top left button, and it said OK and prompted to hit 2. So, you just push all the keyboard buttons from left to right, top to bottom. There are also tests for the other hardware buttons, except for the 4 main buttons on the d-pad (home, back, send, end), which was kind of weird. If you think your power button or vol down button is effed, this tool will confirm/deny it for you.
Right, so the RaphDiag didn't brick your device. It's a bit risky - so I will first resort to less extreme measures - at least I know there is one success story.
I seriously wouldn't worry about it, but you may want to have a card reader available in case you need to remove raphdiag from you sd card to get a flash to work. It's possible that I didn't get the nand format to work properly, but I think I did it right, because the device definitely needed to cold boot. I was just surprised that there was still an OS there.
I'll take your word for it - BUT - in terms of gaining knowledge I am going to try the steps in the posts I found. If the NAND does need a format there is no doubt that I will land up doing it - but I will have first-hand experience.
This really needs a Wiki page once I am done; so I want to squeeze as much info out of the device as I can.
Can anyone else think of any gotcha's before I potentially brick it?
I ran the format a second time. It's really fast; it takes maybe 5 seconds. I haven't figure out how to exit from that part of the diag other than soft resetting, which leads to a cold boot. I'm surprised it's so fast. A hard reset takes about 30 seconds. I guess that it's working properly.
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I ran the format a second time.
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You are either very brave or very rich . Right, so here is hoping I have to go the final resort route - nothing yet though.
I know it's terribly silly to ask. Please bear with it.
Long story way short: 1) button presses don't work on my device (as detailed here), 2) using adb reboot recovery, my devices reboots to yellow triangle screen, but button presses don't bring up any menus, and 3) using adb reboot bootloader, my device reboots and hangs at the first screen.
The reasons that none of this is working, according to various places I've read is that a) I either haven't done the right combination/timing of button presses, or b) I have a faulty device, or c) Sharp (the maker) or au (the carrier) disabled it.
Am I following along so far?
If it's either b or c, I need to return this sucker for a working one or demand my money back, me thinks. Considering these are Japanese carriers and makers though, not sure how far I will go.
did u solve ur hard reset problem
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I know it's terribly silly to ask. Please bear with it.
Long story way short: 1) button presses don't work on my device (as detailed here), 2) using adb reboot recovery, my devices reboots to yellow triangle screen, but button presses don't bring up any menus, and 3) using adb reboot bootloader, my device reboots and hangs at the first screen.
The reasons that none of this is working, according to various places I've read is that a) I either haven't done the right combination/timing of button presses, or b) I have a faulty device, or c) Sharp (the maker) or au (the carrier) disabled it.
Am I following along so far?
If it's either b or c, I need to return this sucker for a working one or demand my money back, me thinks. Considering these are Japanese carriers and makers though, not sure how far I will go.
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let me how know if u solve urs
Yes some **** devices dont have one...
Yes I know this. I hav a cheap tablet called ICE Xtreme. It doesnt hav a recovery n reboot recovery only boots it normlly.
Hello,
I am posting in this forum for a few reasons.
First of all, I rooted my phone the day I bought it and took it home. I originally rooted it with a simple one-click method from a webpage I randomly found online.
Unfortunately, I do not remember the name of the hack, and I'm beginning to think that it has permanently affected the boot for my phone. After installing the hack, I found the CynoagenMod (or however it is spelled) custom ROM. I took some time into researching more about custom ROMs and installing with advanced settings, etc.
After I did my research, I found it best to flash with the new ROM and have had trouble with my boot since.
I did everything step by step from the website, and ran everything to the best of my abilities. The problem I am having now is that I can not access the HBoot menu.
In fact, every time I restart or shut off my phone, the screen goes black and will not respond to me holding down the recovery mode buttons. It stays pitch black and even battery resetting does nothing.
It will randomly turn on, vibrating for about a minute or two straight with the HTC splash screen, and then boot into my phone with the current ROM.
It seems strange that this is going on, and I have been searching all over the internet for weeks now trying to figure out what's wrong. I have reinstalled the stock RUU for my Inspire multiple times to no avail. It still sits at a black screen and will randomly boot into the splash whenever it deems to do so.
Is there anyone with any suggestions or advanced technical knowledge that could lead me to a solution? It is most unfortunate because I can't access for viewing s-on, s-off. I'm really debating whether to take the phone back to the rep and replace it. I'm just afraid they will discover the security off and tell me to suck a ****.
Thanks.
Run this nice little tool to factory reset, s-on your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1208507
Then reroot with the Hack Kit here. Read the "effen manual"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
Thanks for the reply.
But here's my problem:
I can't access the HBoot menu in order to flash or install any type of file.
I've been using the terminal on my Mac to do most of my editing, and now I've ran in to a new problem: whenever I try to move files to my sd root, it says that the card is read only and therefore no files can be transferred to it.
I use the command ./adb push PD98IMG.zip /sdcard/
This is where I get the error.
Also, it takes my phone literally 5 or 6 minutes to boot into the splash screen after I use the command ./adb reboot bootloader/recovery (both of which I have tried).
I'm beginning to get quite frustrated, as I'm sure you can understand. I've also attempted to rewrite all of the necessary root programs onto the device in hope that the bootloader and recovery options will be accessible.
Do you have a solution for the write problem I am getting from my device?
Thanks.
Also, is there a way to go about doing this procedure straight from the Terminal since I can't run HBoot and recovery directly from my phone?
I have sucessfully restored s-on on my previous inspire so I can rma it for a signal issue I was having.
So I consider myself savy enough on this task. I rooted that inspire using a method available on here and not some random site. Doing that, u accept the possiblility that you may not get support on xda for using a root method that was not posted here. However, I do remember reading somewhere on here that certain inspires will go to a black screen at somewhere during the rooting process. My advice is to search the inspire threads for this topic, using keywords black screen, and see if this can provide a solution for you.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using XDA App
Thanks soldier, but I've already searched through every black screen forum topic on this site for the inspire, all of which require reboot to HBoot, which I can not access from my phone without terminal access.
It seems like my phone is permanently soft bricked or something, or maybe the key commands don't do as they are supposed to. I can never get into the HBoot menu or recovery by holding down vol. - and the power button.
All it does is boots into the splash screen after about five minutes or son, and once the splash screen comes up, the phone vibrates for about 2 minutes straight.
During this time, my phone is not recognized by adp until after the phone stops vibrating.
I can't seem to find any forums ANYWHERE that propose a solution to this problem, let alone anyone that has the same issue as me.
Yeah that sux man. Well I would say, if you are within your warranty exchange, I would go that route first. Worst thing they can say is no. Although I still have yet to find a story about how someone was denied a warranty exchange for a phone that does not have physical damage. The next route is to suck it up and pay the deductible if you have insurance on it. (I always recommend insurance on any modern touchscreen smartphone) If that is not an option, then start saving up for a new phone, and lesson learned.
Ya, that seems like the only available option at the moment since my phone can't access HBoot even though I rewrote the root files to the device.
I just bought the phone this weekend, so I'm thinking of hard bricking the phone in case they decide to do an on-the-spot check. Hopefully they'll believe some bull**** story I can come up with and just give me a replacement.
Would any of you still recommend rooting again with a new phone? And what would be the best way to do so without the consequence of a soft or hard brick?
I'm just thinking of rooting and keeping the original stock OS on the device instead of running a custom ROM. That's what seems to have effed my phone.
All I really wanted to do was cut all the crappy useless programs and services out of the original Google Apps package with a fresh install to get the most out of my hardware.
FYI...if you haven't figured it by now, xda is the BEST site there is for android hacking/modding. This website IS the centralized location for all android developers/modders. Sure there are plenty of other android community sites out there, but this is the direct centralized source for all android hacking/modding.
My suggestion is to go ahead and root the next inspire you get using the hack kit in the development section. That is a long time proven and supported rooting method for the inspire. As far as roms go, from what you are saying, i would recommend you install a custom rom that is based on stock. (ex. Android Revolution) It was not the custom rom that effed up your phone, it was the questionable rooting method that did. Custom roms, by default, are superior to true stock roms, because they are modded, tweaked, and optimized far beyond the stock rom.
Awesome, I appreciate the information.
I'll keep that in mind. So which exact ROM would you suggest for my Inspire that's completely like Gingerbread?
I wasn't too fond of the CyanogenMod ROM because the GUI was a little sketchy. I like having a professional looking GUI, and I love the Gingerbread screens and menus.
Oh, one more thing. I had some success a little while ago getting into the HBoot menu from the terminal. Now I'm having a new issue:
I get into the menu at which the phone freezes and I can not use the arrow keys or power button to make a selection. Any tips?
I also believe that it is in fastboot, since it says fastboot at the top and has the Androids on the bottom skateboarding. Is this an issue? And am I screwed because I can't access the OS to turn the option off?
When you see the fastboot at the top of the screen and the androids skating at the bottom, that is perfectly normal. That is the pre screen before actually going into the bootloader. If your keys work, u press the volume down button to select which option you want, which will highlight in blue. The first option is the bootloader, so if you press the power button, it will load into the bootloader. The bootloader looks exactly the same as this screen, but with different options. This screen will show hboot at the top and have the options of fastboot, recovery, factory reset, simlock, and image crc. I have never heard of the keys not working at this point, so i couldn't help you there. Search around the forums if you haven't already.
If you want to compare this to something more familiar, think of these two screens as your motherboard bios to your PC. (What you see when your pc boots up, before it loads the OS, windows, mac, etc) On a pc, you can install any OS you want, like on the inspire, you can install any custom rom you want. But the motherboard bios is the highest level of permanent software that is directly written to the motherboard itself, like the bootloader/hboot is on the inspire. When rooting, you are essentially altering the motherboard bios on the inspire. When you install a custom rom, you are just installing an OS on the inspire.
There are plenty of custom ROMS that are based off of stock in the development section. I use and like Android Revolution. But when choosing custom roms, its always a matter of preference, and what works best for you.
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Thanks for the reply.
But here's my problem:
I can't access the HBoot menu in order to flash or install any type of file.
I've been using the terminal on my Mac to do most of my editing, and now I've ran in to a new problem: whenever I try to move files to my sd root, it says that the card is read only and therefore no files can be transferred to it.
I use the command ./adb push PD98IMG.zip /sdcard/
This is where I get the error.
Also, it takes my phone literally 5 or 6 minutes to boot into the splash screen after I use the command ./adb reboot bootloader/recovery (both of which I have tried).
I'm beginning to get quite frustrated, as I'm sure you can understand. I've also attempted to rewrite all of the necessary root programs onto the device in hope that the bootloader and recovery options will be accessible.
Do you have a solution for the write problem I am getting from my device?
Thanks.
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It sounds like you may have the bad combination of a newer Inspire and the older ENG hboot. This is a problem dealt with commonly on the Aria/Inspire IRC channel. If you want to jump in, we can probably get you straightened out.
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#liberatedAria
Awesome.
I am a little upset that I can't choose an action from the boot menu with the keys on the phone.
It also seems that the only way I can completely get into the boot menu is through the terminal after which I run ./fastboot-mac
After I put in this action, the menu will begin looking for the PD98IMG.zip file, and only goes on to say that there is no file, when there actually is one.
I just wish I could do all of this straight from the phone since I'm not well versed on terminal and commands for running programs to their full ability.
I wish I could figure out a way to the write permission on my sdcard so I could reinstall the .zip file for the bootloader to find.
digitalism said:
Awesome.
I am a little upset that I can't choose an action from the boot menu with the keys on the phone.
It also seems that the only way I can completely get into the boot menu is through the terminal after which I run ./fastboot-mac
After I put in this action, the menu will begin looking for the PD98IMG.zip file, and only goes on to say that there is no file, when there actually is one.
I just wish I could do all of this straight from the phone since I'm not well versed on terminal and commands for running programs to their full ability.
I wish I could figure out a way to the write permission on my sdcard so I could reinstall the .zip file for the bootloader to find.
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You will not be able to use the volume rocker to select options if you have a PD98IMG.zip on your SD card.
Try booting into hboot with the SD card removed. That should let you move around the menu.
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Thanks for the heads up!
I can move the menus now.
Seems like all is going well now...
Just a matter of time.
digitalism said:
Thanks for the heads up!
I can move the menus now.
Seems like all is going well now...
Just a matter of time.
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It's good to hear you're moving forward. Let us know how it comes out.
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Pretty sure the answer is going to be that I'm screwed, but posting here to make sure.
I recently purchased a Motorola Droid Razr HD (XT926) to replace my Sony Ericsson Xperia Play (R800X), both on Verizon. I rooted the phone so I could use Titanium backups, but after updating system data (no apks) I "rebooted" but the fresh boot never came. I've got nothing, notably adb or fastboot (as all the threads I found say to use one of the two).
So is there any hope of restoring this or do I need to get my hands on a new phone?
EDIT: My original sources turned up nothing because I was being too specific. I'm just looking at a generic hard-brick and will need to Jtag it (or a similar service)
Are you able to boot into recovery? No matter what you restored in the rom you should be able to do that. Try holding down both the volume buttons and power.
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Are you able to boot into recovery? No matter what you restored in the rom you should be able to do that. Try holding down both the volume buttons and power.
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No, it shows no indication of power at all, regardless of button combinations (I tried every one I could think of, starting obviously with the ones people said should work) or the presence of a USB cable.
EDIT: I have NO idea what just happened. I hit a bunch of combinations to make sure I tried the one above with several others because "why not?", and then wrote the above post. After I submitted, the phone decided to perform a normal boot while sitting on my desk (with some "optimizing apps" that indicate that I must have installed the Xperia Play APKs). The magic touch of techies extended into the virtual realm I guess. I'll flash back to stock using DROID RAZR HD Utility 1.20 And be much more careful with settings restoration.
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No, it shows no indication of power at all, regardless of button combinations (I tried every one I could think of, starting obviously with the ones people said should work) or the presence of a USB cable.
EDIT: I have NO idea what just happened. I hit a bunch of combinations to make sure I tried the one above with several others because "why not?", and then wrote the above post. After I submitted, the phone decided to perform a normal boot while sitting on my desk (with some "optimizing apps" that indicate that I must have installed the Xperia Play APKs). The magic touch of techies extended into the virtual realm I guess. I'll flash back to stock using DROID RAZR HD Utility 1.20 And be much more careful with settings restoration.
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Ha! I was just about to reply to your unedited post to try holding the buttons longer lol
I had a similar thing happen with restoring settings with TB too, now I just do (non-system) apps with data, sms and call log with no issues.
Glad to hear!
Just as a final update for anyone else who may encounter this problem and stumble upon this thread. My battery was at about 80% percent when I bricked it and it was dry when it came back. So if you are having similar trouble it may be helpful to put it aside for a day or so and try again (Or if you have the tools and are more brave than I am, pull out the battery)
First of all, hello everybody on this community.
I'd been reading on internet how to fix this issue, but no clue at all.
My english is not so good so I'll try to be as clear as possible.
My mother gave me a HTC Inspired 4G, it has many apps and stuffs. It was working fine but it has a lot of apps that I wouldn't be using so (here comes the stupidest idea) I decided to reset it from insight (at that moment I didn't know about the power and volume shortcut).
After I did it, it reset itself then after everything seems normal, I unlocked the screen and then the whole screen turned to black. I could still see the time, date and also open the upper menu, but when I pressed Menu or any button, it just vibrate and nothing happens. Also I got a few errors like xxxx stopped working.
I can manage it to open Config menu, but I can't do much, I tryied to add my wifi connection but when I press the white space to put the password, then keyboard wont display. Also when it used to get stuck on Rethink Possible, but after plug in the cellphone to my laptop I could pass it. Now I removed the microsd and won't need to be plug it for that.
So right now, I can't download anything, I don't know how to fix it or return it the way it used to be.
I don't know anything about root and all those stuffs.
But I learn fast, so any link, tutorial, tips or guidance for these issues, I'll make good use of it.
What I have to do in order to make it work.
Thank you very much in advance.
Do you know what software version you are running, whether the phone is unlocked or rooted, or any other details?
It says 2.3.3 if that what you mean, also I don't know exactly what rooted means but if I'm not mistaken, my cellphone is rooted.
When I turned on by pressing volume and power buttons, I get some kind of options like fastboot and so on, also when I choose Recovery, I get something called Ace Hack Kit, I don't know what's for. I see many options but I can't figure it out which one would help me with this.
It's obvious something been done on this cellphone but I though since I reseted it, everything would be deleted.
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It says 2.3.3 if that what you mean, also I don't know exactly what rooted means but if I'm not mistaken, my cellphone is rooted.
When I turned on by pressing volume and power buttons, I get some kind of options like fastboot and so on, also when I choose Recovery, I get something called Ace Hack Kit, I don't know what's for. I see many options but I can't figure it out which one would help me with this.
It's obvious something been done on this cellphone but I though since I reseted it, everything would be deleted.
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What do those options say exactly when you press power and volume?