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So...I currently own a vibrant and want to pick up a nexus s mainly because I'll be guaranteed android upgrades. My main concern is if the nexus s utilizes the same gps chip as the other galaxy s phones. If it does, it is an epic fail because gps accuracy is still HORRID on these phones and would be a total dealbreaker.
Anyone know the answer?
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The Nexus S has an improved antenna.
But even then the GPS issues on the Galaxy S series were mostly software ones since they've now been patched between the update, and the app ont he market to reset the gps settings.
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The Nexus S has an improved antenna.
But even then the GPS issues on the Galaxy S series were mostly software ones since they've now been patched between the update, and the app ont he market to reset the gps settings.
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I've tried every fix out there and it still has me driving next to the highway in the woods or 2 blocks from where I'm standing.
My crappy Motorola cliq has pinpoint precision compare to the vibrant.
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The Nexus S has an improved antenna.
But even then the GPS issues on the Galaxy S series were mostly software ones since they've now been patched between the update, and the app ont he market to reset the gps settings.
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But that mostly means that there is still a hardware issue and that means the difference between driving on the road and driving perpendicular to it.
mchimney said:
But that mostly means that there is still a hardware issue and that means the difference between driving on the road and driving perpendicular to it.
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Im still pretty sure its a SW error, friend has a Galaxy S phone, installed the latest leaked build for his phone and wala GPS lock in seconds
The Nexus S got recertified through FCC testing for upgraded BT/GPS hardware.
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The Nexus S got recertified through FCC testing for upgraded BT/GPS hardware.
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Now that's what I wanted to hear!
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REQUEST
Those who already have their phone: please make a GPS test as it follows:
choose a location outside which you can easily identify on google earth (a tree, a big rock, something small but visible on satellite view)
go out there and use an app which shows GPS coordinates - preferably the free app GPS test
stand next to object and get the coordinates, write it down, etc (for this wait a while till more precise fix)
go back to house, type the coordinates into Google Earth
measure the distance between the location you got with your phone and the real object using Google Earths measuring tool
post the results here
Well, I'm not gonna do all that, but maybe this will help.
I did a cold start on Maps. Got a lock on within 10 seconds. Pretty damn good. Now I'm using GPS Test app and was able to lock on all satellites. 7 out of 7. This is all within my house. Wifi is off.
I can happily say that GPS works fine. From my experience anyways.
Yup GPS is fine locked faster and seems more accurate than my vibrant
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It was either Endgadget or gizmodo, but they said the GPS still sucks on the nexus s that it took forever for them to get a lock. I was tired of playing with ROM's etc, which is why I sold my vibrant and got a mytouch4g. I do miss the vibrant, but I geocache and a accurate GPS is something I needed.
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It was either Endgadget or gizmodo, but they said the GPS still sucks on the nexus s that it took forever for them to get a lock. I was tired of playing with ROM's etc, which is why I sold my vibrant and got a mytouch4g. I do miss the vibrant, but I geocache and a accurate GPS is something I needed.
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load of BS. took less than 0.5 sec to get a lock and the accuracy is incredible.
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It was either Endgadget or gizmodo, but they said the GPS still sucks on the nexus s that it took forever for them to get a lock. I was tired of playing with ROM's etc, which is why I sold my vibrant and got a mytouch4g. I do miss the vibrant, but I geocache and a accurate GPS is something I needed.
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They also said they were driving while trying to get a lock... And in my experience (Nexus S, TomTom, Garmin), a GPS can't get a lock while you're moving. Maybe the best ones can, but their test is not enough to say that Nexus S sucks.
I feel that I have a bad GPS. It's. Not seeing more than 2 satellite outdoor. I will test it more
demo23019 said:
Yup GPS is fine locked faster and seems more accurate than my vibrant
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Those that say that the GPS issues of the Galaxy S line of phones were fixed via the software update and market app probably don't own a Galaxy S phone. The GPS is definitely not fixed. In fact, it's the only reason why I'm in this forum. I'm willing to give up AT&T 3G for a working GPS -- I plan to sell my Captivate and buy a Nexus S if the GPS works.
Also, those that say they got a fast lock and great accuracy, that doesn't exactly mean anything yet. Most Galaxy S users had great GPS performance out-the-box, and after a hard reset. But the performance gradually degrades over the course of a few days, and then you eventually want to throw your phone out the window. So the fact that only some Nexus S owners have great GPS performance -- and not ALL -- leaves me discouraged. But we should have a better assessment after a few days.
Maybe Samsung and/or Google also released in market the pieces that they have produced, before changing the GPS antenna....
Maybe that's why some users have GPS issues and others not...
So maybe we have 2 deferent produced devices....
Nice scenario don't you think???
Hello everyone who owns Galaxy S 4G / Vibrant 4G. As a Vibrant owner, I would like to know (and I am sure many others as well) whether GPS works perfectly on Galaxy S 4G ? If it does, then please post screenshots from GPS test app if possible.
Also, please answer the poll and leave any comments regarding drifting/accuracy etc.
Because if it works perfectly, then it's safe to assume the issue with Vibrant's GPS is a hardware issue ( specially now that we have 2.2.1 ported for vibrant)
Moved of : Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant General
To: Samsung Galaxy S 4G > Galaxy S 4G General
thanks
Looks like I was the first one to vote. Tried several readings yesterday and one this morning. All very accurate and this mornings was more accurate than my Garmin for some reason.
the GPS on the SGS4G works as it should... I get 5 second cold start locks and <5m accuracy with no drifting. i drove around with it on and it had no issues on parallel streets that are very close to each other or anything like that.
it works better than my tomtom. so I am a happy camper with the GPS.
I used Root Explorer to pull out Telenav and while my Google Maps is still locking my location inside and outside, News and Weather no longer finds my location. I am really hoping Samsung wasn't trying to use Telenav to backbone it's GPS service.
If anyone else is having this problem let me know.
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I used Root Explorer to pull out Telenav and while my Google Maps is still locking my location inside and outside, News and Weather no longer finds my location. I am really hoping Samsung wasn't trying to use Telenav to backbone it's GPS service.
If anyone else is having this problem let me know.
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odd... I didnt remove Telenav so I couldn't tell you.
It took me a while to get a lock straight out of the box, but I assume that it might have just been a fluke since I'm trying it inside. it functioned after I ran telenav x.x
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Gps working fine on most if not all apps.even geotagging, etc
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The GPS does not work on either my Vibrant or my 4G at all. By the way yes, I have used a GPS unit before, I have owned several Garmin Nuvi (350, 1490) and currently have a 3790t.
Works fine on mine...
Sent from my DAMN Galaxy 4G¡!
My GPS is working a lot better than I expected coming from the Vibrant. It hasn't failed me yet.
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My GPS is working a lot better than I expected coming from the Vibrant. It hasn't failed me yet.
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Mine too!!
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For those of you having GPS problems... I just came across this article on Google.
Have you tried this GPS fix? --> blog.photoframd.com/2011/02/09/gps-problems-on-your-samsung-galaxy-s-android-phone-try-this/
Please post your results if you try it.
Guys this is a thread of interest to me as a 3g vibrant owner, who's GPS works but is subpar.
For those reporting results can you confirm:
- you only have GPS on (settings>location&security> use wireless and sensor aiding are both off)
- you are not using maps to test with but an app like GPS test link or accessing the phone's lbsTestMode.
I have both SGS4g and the vibrant-(returning vibrant) side by side when I tested the gps lock. By far the SGS4g is quicker and have yet to experience any issue. Shocking isn't it.
I've been having issues with GPS - hard to get a lock, and low accuracy. But...
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For those of you having GPS problems... I just came across this article on Google.
Have you tried this GPS fix? --> blog.photoframd.com/2011/02/09/gps-problems-on-your-samsung-galaxy-s-android-phone-try-this/
Please post your results if you try it.
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This helped with the accuracy, but it still wasn't up to par with my G1 or iPhone.
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- you only have GPS on (settings>location&security> use wireless and sensor aiding are both off)
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Wireless didn't make much of a diff on OR off. But I turned off sensor aiding and the accuracy is now almost perfect.
My two cents on this issue is that on my 2nd SGS4G the GPS works 85-90% of the time and on the 1st one I had at lunch day that one the GPS only worked 70% of the 3 days I had it.
Could one of you sgs4g users try and put your gps into ms assisted mode and tell me what your supl settings are?
The original vibrant would lock up, freeze apps and drain the battery 2% a minute when changing from standalone gps to either ms based or assisted. All this can be changed in the lbstestmode--application settings.
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I have actually ran sgs tools and followed the sticky post in the Captivate forums regarding gps fixes. Default settings were exactly like the vibrant, and I have set them to ms based, google supl no security, accuracy 50. Locked quick outside, ~20 seconds or so vs half way home (3 minutes). I'm going to try accuracy 150 with dynamic accuracy on my 2 hr trip up to north jersey this saturday, so I'll post my findings.
I do not use agps nor the sensor aiding. I can else conclude that even with default settings, once a fix is established and a position is determined on google maps, the gps has no trouble following. The only thing that bothers me is first fix, which I hope my current settings will address.
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Thanks for your input guys, much appreciated. It seems for most of you GPS is a thumbs up!
Sadly Vibrant owners will never have a 100% working gps. Good luck with Galax S 4G custom ROMs now that you have unofficial clockwork recovery
I was wondering how the gps worked on the inspire. I have a captivate and it sucks. Particularly interested in tracking (my tracks) and navigation. Any insights or my tracks would be appreciated
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I switched from captivate and this phone is way better. GPS is spot on and locks in my house in about 5 seconds.
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I was wondering how the gps worked on the inspire. I have a captivate and it sucks. Particularly interested in tracking (my tracks) and navigation. Any insights or my tracks would be appreciated
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I hear ya on the GPS. Was holding out for the stock 2.2 update to see if there was any marked improvement, and, though it might be a tad better, it's not where it should have been in the first place: still pretty much worthless as far as I'm concerned.
I've heard the inspire is like night and day better, as the comment above me confirms.
I'm getting ready to make the jump, personally.
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Suffice it to say the inspire 4g does not have poorly implimented GPS hardware, and therefore does not need tons of software tweaks to get it to work, nor does it need 12 sats to get a 5 meter accuracy..
Galaxy S phones have dead GPS. Period.
If you have a Captivate get a rom based on either XXJPY or WJS3/5 -- Those have the best GPS i've found.
For stock experience, use Cog 4 with UCKB1 + adamholden85's GPS fix.
Even on a good day though, its not even close to the inspire..
Much better than the captivate, even on one of its better days, but not as quick to lock as my incredible. Overall the gps does what I expect of a phone. Navigation works well, quick to locate in maps, update location for weather, etc.
I quote Ferris Bueller:
"If you have the means, I highly recommend it. It's so choice."
I was driving 45 mph, had passenger press the lock button on maps... had a 10m lock in about 10 seconds. Tracks perfectly around turns and everything. That and this phone is just awesome. HTC FTW.
Mine is coming in tomorrow...I am coming from the captivate side as well.
GPS on the captivate was a hit or miss. Various roms would get it to work sometimes but its all in the hardware.
I am glad to hear that the inspire has a great GPS.
I originally had a bad antenna which I swapped out at the store and honestly this phone is QUICK! It's funny how used to my old phone I became about certain functions like the GPS and tracking.. Loving my Inspire.
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I originally had a bad antenna which I swapped out at the store and honestly this phone is QUICK! It's funny how used to my old phone I became about certain functions like the GPS and tracking.. Loving my Inspire.
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did you get a signal at all? how did you know it was bad? i think mine may be having problems aswell.
For all those GPS fans out there, it works great out of the box, but some have had problems once reflashing with even stock rom, so be careful.
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did you get a signal at all? how did you know it was bad? i think mine may be having problems aswell.
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I was unreachable for calls and the GPS wouldn't pinpoint my location accurately. We did a number of tests in store and called TS. Also I was stock at the time no question it was the phone and not a hack or rooting issue.
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Inspire's GPS is great. No worries. Not as phenomenal as the Atrix's GPS, but very good.
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What's the best app out there for navigation? Google Nav isn't great. I got navigon and it's not too bad, on my iPhone it was the best out there, so I'm assuming it's the same with Android?
Hows the GPS on the thunderbolt? I have read all about the battery issues, but haven't seen much on the thunderbolt. I have the option to upgrade right now, because of all the complaining I have done to Verizon about my fascinate, and wonder if I should switch? Any thoughts on GPS vs the fascinates?
thanks for the feedback!
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Hows the GPS on the thunderbolt? I have read all about the battery issues, but haven't seen much on the thunderbolt. I have the option to upgrade right now, because of all the complaining I have done to Verizon about my fascinate, and wonder if I should switch? Any thoughts on GPS vs the fascinates?
thanks for the feedback!
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GPS works great on mine. Gets a lock quickly and is as accurate as anything else.
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GPS works great on mine. Gets a lock quickly and is as accurate as anything else.
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did you have to do anything special, or was it good out of the box?
Good right out of the box. I get a quick lock in Zillow, Waze and Maps.
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did you have to do anything special, or was it good out of the box?
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Good out of the box.
Accurate down to 2m out of the box. Rooted with Das BAMF and still the same.
Perfect out of the box. The first time I used mine it took a minute to search and find a satellite, after that it was super fast and spot on everytime!
Faster than my Droid ever was. Works better indoors too it seems...
The only time I've had a problem is when I'm inside the LSU Rec Center (all metal building). Anywhere else, and almost any other building, I get a fine GPS signal.
looks like I'm trading my Fascinate in for a Thunderbolt then! Tired of waiting on Sammy and Verizon to update the OS.
Thanks for all the replies.
I gotta say the GPS is accurate but it still takes a bit of time for me to get a lock. Not sure why... do you all leave your GPS on? I only turn mine on when needed.
I leave it on. Quick locks.
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I had quick lock out of the box and rooted stock. Once I flashed Das BAMF I had to run the GPS fix.
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I gotta say the GPS is accurate but it still takes a bit of time for me to get a lock. Not sure why... do you all leave your GPS on? I only turn mine on when needed.
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Mine takes a bit to lock on too. I always leave it off unless I need it. But I leave on Location Services.
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I gotta say the GPS is accurate but it still takes a bit of time for me to get a lock. Not sure why... do you all leave your GPS on? I only turn mine on when needed.
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I use Locale (the latest one that still has location as a condition)... My GPS locks quickly with an accuracy of 6.6 feet running latest Virus rom with lean normal kernel... stand alone GPS only...
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The only time I've had a problem is when I'm inside the LSU Rec Center (all metal building). Anywhere else, and almost any other building, I get a fine GPS signal.
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Ah hello fellow BR TB user!
GPS stopped when 4G signal dropped. Had to stop and flip on the switched to 3G only then it worked. I was in a 4G area.
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Mine takes a bit to lock on too. I always leave it off unless I need it. But I leave on Location Services.
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Mine takes a second to lock too even after changing the GPS file.
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My GPS works great, too. The only thing that I seem to be reading is that the TB isn't using the A-GPS data from the towers in order to get a quick lock after not using the GPS for a long time. That means it's using purely the GPS for location, which is fine, but it might take a bit longer the first time you turn on maps or nav. There's an update from HTC coming out (soon?) that addresses this issue and also some battery issues.
I've had issues with Roms built off of the newer version of ruu 605.9.(htc probably didn't release this version for a reason)
I have instantaneously and accurate gps lock with plane Jane v1
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Just trying to get count on how many are having GPS issues.
symptoms:
1) no direct lock
2) no lock at all
3) triangulated lock
3) Shows you driving 15 ft off road
4) "Bounces around"
5) Losses signal frequently
i have all of the above
I have 0 GPS issues.
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Google maps will not follow me.i have to move the screen to keep up.google navigation works fine..also co pilot works fine and it uses zero data so far im happy with the gps...on the captivate i have to start the gps test app. Before i can get a lock
the gps is very good but the setting can cause issues. i had some of the issues you mention, changed the sulp setting to auto config in lbs test mode and set it to msbased to match the secgps.conf file. i tried the google supl server but the gps was worse! the url is long for the server used in auto config so instead of writting it i just suggest you use the auto setting.
after that it works amazingly good, reception indoors is not as good as the nexus s or the atrix but the accuracy and lock times are nothing short of amazing.
also i never use wireless networks, it may try to fall back on it if you have a temporary reception issue and just cause major tracking issues. it is basically useless.
but that said if you always have the issues mentioned and not just occasionally then you may have a problem
Mine works great in maps.. didn't try tracking in Navagation but was playing with the voice on Google widget. Would say "navigate to dominos .Gonzales,la "and it would open Navagation but I can't here or get voice guided.
Does any one else get voice nav.
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...
Voice nav. Works fine..google maps is not working good at all..i wil try a reset and see how it goes..i had omnia 1 and 2..never any issues with the gps...sam should rehire those guys!
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the gps is very good but the setting can cause issues. i had some of the issues you mention, changed the sulp setting to auto config in lbs test mode and set it to msbased to match the secgps.conf file. i tried the google supl server but the gps was worse! the url is long for the server used in auto config so instead of writting it i just suggest you use the auto setting.
after that it works amazingly good, reception indoors is not as good as the nexus s or the atrix but the accuracy and lock times are nothing short of amazing.
also i never use wireless networks, it may try to fall back on it if you have a temporary reception issue and just cause major tracking issues. it is basically useless.
but that said if you always have the issues mentioned and not just occasionally then you may have a problem
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What code do enter you enter to get into the gps settings??
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What code do enter you enter to get into the gps settings??
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i used launcher pro activities. i didnt care to try dialer codes. you just need launcher pro installed. you dont need to use it as the launcher.
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i used launcher pro activities. i didnt care to try dialer codes.
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Thanks.i need buy the lic.for launcher pro,correct? Because i dont see the option you mentioned..
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Thanks.i need buy the lic.for launcher pro,correct? Because i dont see the option you mentioned..
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nope launcher pro free works fine.
I'm lost. But yes I get voice navigation. Seems to be an issue with Google maps and not navigation. Have any of you looked at the comments on Google maps in the market? Poeple using galaxy s devices have issues too. And come to think another it. Our device s basically a galaxy s device with out the lable... going to go switch it out tho. Get a new one and see how that goes.
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nope launcher pro free works fine.
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Thanks man i found it..
Yea no actually voice for me. Never talks.
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...
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I'm lost. But yes I get voice navigation. Seems to be an issue with Google maps and not navigation. Have any of you looked at the comments on Google maps in the market? Poeple using galaxy s devices have issues too. And come to think another it. Our device s basically a galaxy s device with out the lable... going to go switch it out tho. Get a new one and see how that goes.
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I went through the same crap as you did yesterday.
Used Copilot , all settings were default (not using wireless network , only using USE gps sattellites)
Took 15-20 minutes to grab a lock ... litterally had to park the car to the side and stick my hand out the window on a clear sunny day (total bull$hit) ... once I got a lock as I was driving on the highway it would occasionally show me driving waaaaaaaay off to the right than I actually was.
I hate admitting but I'm missing my iphone 3g , had instant lockon gps times
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I'm lost. But yes I get voice navigation. Seems to be an issue with Google maps and not navigation. Have any of you looked at the comments on Google maps in the market? Poeple using galaxy s devices have issues too. And come to think another it. Our device s basically a galaxy s device with out the lable... going to go switch it out tho. Get a new one and see how that goes.
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the galaxy s has different gps hardware or drivers but it can work adequately, this can work better, swap it out. if the second phone has issues i'll walk you through some better settings for it. i had a lot of experience with the captivate and know some things that mess with it. this however has agps (assisted gps) settings that work much better than the captivate and i recommend using them, after that you will not want to use a different device.
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the galaxy s has different gps hardware or drivers but it can work adequately, this can work better, swap it out. if the second phone has issues i'll walk you through some better settings for it. i had a lot of experience with the captivate and know some things that mess with it. this however has agps (assisted gps) settings that work much better than the captivate and i recommend using them, after that you will not want to use a different device.
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Thanks! Like today it showed me in a Mercedes Benz dealership. I was like that is 9 streets down. what the hell!
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Thanks! Like today it showed me in a Mercedes Benz dealership. I was like that is 9 streets down. what the hell!
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that would be the "use wireless networks" feature, dont use that. gps is never that far off.
turning that off will force gps and it may work better, if not you may need to change the supl settings to get the nmea data to download. agps will also help get the nmea data to download fast from the cell towers and not just from the satalites or wifi. having up to date nmea data makes all the difference.
isnt that used for when wifi is around? so even if im not on a wifi network it wouldn't work? so its like pointless to turn it off or on.?
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isnt that used for when wifi is around? so even if im not on a wifi network it wouldn't work? so its like pointless to turn it off or on.?
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just turn it off. it is completely useless. i have heard that it works off wifi, but it seems to do something anywhere i go, most people seem to believe that it is cell tower triangulation, either way the accuracy i get from it is as poor as 3600 meters and the center of the blue area is about 1 mile from my actual location. it serves no usefull purpose at all.
On or off still doesn't help
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