[Q] Rom Manager Help!! - Captivate General

Okay so I have read a bunch about rom manager and have tried working with it. I have 2 questions about it:
1) I am not able to do a proper restore with it. I want to flash different roms but I would like to keep completely seperate folders on my sd card for each rom.
So I am wondering, after doing a "backup current rom" and then putting the entire sd card directory on my pc (which has the clockworkmod folder with the backup in it), then going and screwing up my phone , and finally wanting to restore with cwm recovery, do I have to put all the original folders (that were on the sd when I did the backup) back on the sd card and then hit restore, or can I just put the clockworkmod folder back on the sd and hit restore?
Also, I have another question: if I have cwm recovery already in the kernel I am using (Cog5 Beta 2), do I really need tibu and rom manager, or can I pretty much flash, completely restore, and completely backup roms (and all other settings) through the cwm recovery?
Could someone who is familar with cwm and has actually restored successfully using it help me out, please?? (yes I have read other stuff-but can't find anything about this!)

Cog5b1-3 do NOT work restoring from cwm at all so rom manager wont restore either. It MAY not even backup the rom correctly. As much as I liked Cog5b3 I HAD to switch back to Apex so I can ACTUALLY BACKUP AND RESTORE from cwm if necessary. I KEPT the i897 bootloaders and flashed Apex Full with wipe.
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Aww... yea i guess im gonna have to switch then.
So ur saying u use Apex - how is that compared to cog5?
Also, I'm thinking it will be unnecessary for me to keep tibu and rom manager as long as I have a kernel with cwm (b/c i will bakup, flash, and restore with it) - so what kernel are u running?
Finally, would u be able to help me with the whole "do i need to backup the entire sd directory or can i just backup the cwmod folder" thing??

Don't use ROM Manager. That is all.

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First Attempt at root and flash CM& - one last question

OK so I know we don't have superoneclick to root any more so I need to download CM7, install it on my sd card and flash CWM via NV flash. I also know that I need to backup before clearing data and installing cm7.
My question is after to flashing CWM via NV flash can I boot up the phone and copy my backup to my pc before clearing data and installing CM7?
I am kind of a nonrisk taker and would like to have a copy of the backup on my pc in case I screw this process up and screw up my sd card at the same time.
If you have clockwork recovery installed, do a backup. Then on your sdcard you'll have a directory called clockworkmod, and backup under there. You can copy that to your pc if you're super paranoid about messing something up. Just keep in mind when you do a restore it checks the md5 sums, so do not rename anything, and when you put it back on your sdcard, make sure the pathname is the exact same as before. (Example clockworkmod/backup/12.31.2121blahblah.
Thanks, I think I got the copying part, but what I am asking is whether its ok to power up the phone after flashing CWM via NV flash and creating a backup but before installing CM7? Please tell me if this is a dumb question. I'm a lawyer, I'm used to being told I ask dumb questions.
Of course. CWM sits on a partition that's normally used for the reset to stock recovery. After you install it, and do a backup, your rom is still there. You can boot to it like normal, copy stuff to the computer, and then reboot again into recovery to install cm7.
Thank you kind sir.

First Android device, need some help

Hello people of xda-developers
I got my first Android phone, which is an LG G2X 2.3.3 Gingerbread.
I have been searching around and found out you can root your phone which is kinda like jailbreaking an iphone.
I still don't completely understand how to do it though. I've seen a couple of threads that tell you how to root your Android device with something called SuperOneClick, but from what I understand, this doesn't work with the new Gingerbread.
Now from what I understand, you first have to root your phone, then flash it with CWM Recovery with NVFlash right?
Could someone please lead me to the threads that explain how to root a G2X with Gingerbread, and how to flash it with CWM Recovery.
hope this helps
Joseg1320 said:
Hello people of xda-developers
I got my first Android phone, which is an LG G2X 2.3.3 Gingerbread.
I have been searching around and found out you can root your phone which is kinda like jailbreaking an iphone.
I still don't completely understand how to do it though. I've seen a couple of threads that tell you how to root your Android device with something called SuperOneClick, but from what I understand, this doesn't work with the new Gingerbread.
Now from what I understand, you first have to root your phone, then flash it with CWM Recovery with NVFlash right?
Could someone please lead me to the threads that explain how to root a G2X with Gingerbread, and how to flash it with CWM Recovery.
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although someone did post a way to root the gingerbread rom its pretty complicated for a new user.
the oneclick methods of rooting for the 2.3.3 dont exist.
if you want to be able to flash custom roms(which you do) than follow this link and it will walk you through what to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
that will get you where you need to be. but it will not root the rom you are currently using youll need to flash a custom rom for that. in the development section youll see several roms either from source. or that are based on the 2.3.3 release and xboarders is the 2.3.3 with root only thats the only change.
good luck.
Okay I flashed CWM via NVFlash. Now I have a question. How can I backup my apps before flashing a rom. I tried to use Titanium Backup, but that doesn't work because my phone isn't rooted. If I boot into Recovery, do I have to wipe data before I install for ex. CM7 onto my phone? But wouldn't wiping the data delete all of my apps?
Joseg1320 said:
Okay I flashed CWM via NVFlash. Now I have a question. How can I backup my apps before flashing a rom. I tried to use Titanium Backup, but that doesn't work because my phone isn't rooted. If I boot into Recovery, do I have to wipe data before I install for ex. CM7 onto my phone? But wouldn't wiping the data delete all of my apps?
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Yes wipe everything. Here's a step-by-step method of flashing new roms:
1. Wipe Data/Factory
2. Wipe Cache
3. Wipe Dalvik
4. Wipe Battery stats - HINT. Always flash new ROMs with 100% battery to get the best battery life
5. Format/system
6. install zip from SD card
7. Fix permissions
8. Reboot and Enjoy!
All your paid apps will come again when you login to your Google account and set up your market. In Market, just press the menu button and hit My Apps and you should be able to re-install all your paid apps.
Joseg1320 said:
Okay I flashed CWM via NVFlash. Now I have a question. How can I backup my apps before flashing a rom. I tried to use Titanium Backup, but that doesn't work because my phone isn't rooted. If I boot into Recovery, do I have to wipe data before I install for ex. CM7 onto my phone? But wouldn't wiping the data delete all of my apps?
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If you have Clockworkmod successfully flashed then you CAN now root without flashing another rom. Download the zip (theres one that roots, and one that unroots should you ever want that) file from the OP of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214. Save it to your sdcard, boot into recovery and select to install zip from sdcard. Navigate to the zip file and install/flash it. Reboot and you have rooted your system with all your files and apps in place.
phburks said:
If you have Clockworkmod successfully flashed then you CAN now root without flashing another rom. Download the zip (theres one that roots, and one that unroots should you ever want that) file from the OP of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214. Save it to your sdcard, boot into recovery and select to install zip from sdcard. Navigate to the zip file and install/flash it. Reboot and you have rooted your system with all your files and apps in place.
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I did this. My phone is now rooted, but I ran into a problem. I tried flashing CM7 through ROM manager, I cleared cache and Dalvik and then flashed the CM7 Rom, but when I go to reboot, the phone freezes at the "T-Mobile G2X with Google" animation.
Joseg1320 said:
I did this. My phone is now rooted, but I ran into a problem. I tried flashing CM7 through ROM manager, I cleared cache and everything and then flashed the CM7 Rom, but when I go to reboot, the phone freezes at the "T-Mobile G2X with Google" animation.
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Try it without rom manager. Power your phone off and then boot into recovery by holding power + volume down until you see the recovery splash screen. Do a full wipe and then flash cm7 again. After successfully installing cm7, or any rom for that matter, your first reboot may take several minutes while it builds the dalvik cache. Subsequent reboots will be MUCH faster.
phburks said:
Try it without rom manager. Power your phone off and then boot into recovery by holding power + volume down until you see the recovery splash screen. Do a full wipe and then flash cm7 again. After successfully installing cm7, or any rom for that matter, your first reboot may take several minutes while it builds the dalvik cache. Subsequent reboots will be MUCH faster.
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Ah okay, I didn't know the first reboot takes longer. I'll give it a try from CWM Recovery.
Just wondering, which ROM is the most stable/popular?
Joseg1320 said:
Ah okay, I didn't know the first reboot takes longer. I'll give it a try from CWM Recovery.
Just wondering, which ROM is the most stable/popular?
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Popular? Its really about personal preference but I'd say cm7, xboarders stock tweaked, miui, weapon, and eaglesblood are right up there at the top. If you want a more stock experience go with xboarders. Cm7 is fairly stock looking with a lot of useful features added. Miui is the opposite end of the spectrum, a very different kind of android indeed lol.
As for stable, any of the ones I mentioned are good, and probably others as well. Cm7 nightly builds are certainly useful enough to be a daily driver, but they have a few issues, but what else would you expect from nightly builds. They are development versions, not final releases.
Try a few and find what you like. Just make sure to keep a good working backup in case you fubar your phone lol.
Alright I got CM7 working and flashed google apps.
Now I have another little problem Before I flashed CM7, I used Titanium Backup to backup some of my game apps. After I flashed CM7, I go to Titanium Backup and none of my apps are there to restore. I connected my phone to my computer and I opened the Titanium Backup folder and the zip files and the PROPERTIES files are all there. How come I'm not able to restore my apps using Titanium Backup if all of the files are there?
I have the .apk files for the apps and I can just install them again, but I'm going to lose my save data.
Joseg1320 said:
Alright I got CM7 working and flashed google apps.
Now I have another little problem Before I flashed CM7, I used Titanium Backup to backup some of my game apps. After I flashed CM7, I go to Titanium Backup and none of my apps are there to restore. I connected my phone to my computer and I opened the Titanium Backup folder and the zip files and the PROPERTIES files are all there. How come I'm not able to restore my apps using Titanium Backup if all of the files are there?
I have the .apk files for the apps and I can just install them again, but I'm going to lose my save data.
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I have never had success with Titanium Backup. Just reinstall your apks clean and forget about the old data. A clean install is better. Think about doing a new Windows installation. Do you want to import the crap that messed up your Windows in the first place? Android is the same way. Better to not import your old data and start new.
I have never had success with Titanium Backup. Just reinstall your apks clean and forget about the old data. A clean install is better. Think about doing a new Windows installation. Do you want to import the crap that messed up your Windows in the first place? Android is the same way. Better to not import your old data and start new.
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Wait no! Don't do that you can salvage ur save data.
What happens when you install CM7 is that the sdcard directory now points to your external sd card rather then the internal that comes with the phone.
the internal is now at /mnt/emmc
Get root explorer and you will see what I'm talking about.
Once you have root explorer just copy the titanium backup folder from /mnt/emmc to /sdcard and you should be able to restore all user apps with data... however DO NOT restore system data from stock to CM7... big headaches.
Hope this helps!
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Wait no! Don't do that you can salvage ur save data.
What happens when you install CM7 is that the sdcard directory now points to your external sd card rather then the internal that comes with the phone.
the internal is now at /mnt/emmc
Get root explorer and you will see what I'm talking about.
Once you have root explorer just copy the titanium backup folder from /mnt/emmc to /sdcard and you should be able to restore all user apps with data... however DO NOT restore system data from stock to CM7... big headaches.
Hope this helps!
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Too late, lol.
I deleted the Titanum Backup folder from my phone.
Oh well, nothing GameCIH can't solve.
Titanium backup goes to you internal sdcard. so you connect to you computer find the folder named TitaniumBackup or something like that, then move that folder to your sd card. Its just a matter of keeping same folder structure that titanium looks for (ie the correct folder name), and puttin the files in there, on the correct external sd card
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oh also most of the time replacing the app doesn't work, just replace the data and it will work (unless of course you are actually trying to change the app in that case good luck).

Nandroid Skips TitaniumBackup?

So I just switched from Prime to Revolution ICS. I made a nandroid before I flashed, as well as a full system+data backup in TitaniumBackup, but when I went back to try to restore TB in ICS there was nothing there. Oh, of course, I thought. I should transfer it to the external SD card so I can get at it after I flash. So I go back in and nandroid restore the Prime ROM, but it hangs on the boot screen.
Is this because ClockwordMod 3.2.0.1 skips the internal /sdcard? Did it then get wiped when I flashed to ICS? Because if so, that seems like a major flaw of which I was never warned when flashing that recovery. I tried to extract TB from my nandroid using unyaffs, but I can't find anything useful.
Any idea if I can get my old TB back?
TB works fine. Look in the TB folder on your internal or external card wherever you have it and if files are there then it should be okay.
Did you flash prime kernel when you restored nandroid? Recovery doesn't make back up of kernel so you need to flash one after restoring backup that's why it probably hangs on boot screen.
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TB works fine. Look in the TB folder on your internal or external card wherever you have it and if files are there then it should be okay.
Did you flash prime kernel when you restored nandroid? Recovery doesn't make back up of kernel so you need to flash one after restoring backup that's why it probably hangs on boot screen.
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Dangit, I was hoping to get back to edit my post before somebody noticed my stupid mistake. Forgot to flash a new (old) kernel when I nandroid'ed. I'm flashing up to ICS now to copy a HC kernel to my external SD, so I can nandroid restore the old ROM and kernel together.
Thanks, though. I'm sure this will fix it. Booting now.
Well, I got restored okay... but the TB folder is nowhere to be found. I'm thinking the SuperWipe script cleared my sdcard (internal) since it's basically empty. Good to know if I ever wanted to, you know, not erase all that stuff that CWM nandroid skips. I'm a little perturbed about that, but it's partially my fault for assuming it all worked the same as my Evo. Live and learn.
Well super wipe script does erase the internal card, at least that's what it says. Personally I always change TB backup folder location to external card as soon as I install titanium.
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Well super wipe script does erase the internal card, at least that's what it says. Personally I always change TB backup folder location to external card as soon as I install titanium.
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As will I, now.

Question about ClockworkMod Recovery and ICS Rom

I was suggested to flash an ICS ROM, so first I was wondering which one is best for beginners. I was previously using Andromeda.
Anyways, I am following the instructions for CyanogenMod9 but when i go into recovery mode and choose backup there is no choice that says "NAND Backup"....I just clicked backup is this something different. Please help...
I have some things on my phone that I would not want to lose
Before anything backup everything on your phone you don't wanna loose cuz you never know. There are many great roms around have fun flashing them. I personally recommend AOKP.
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thanks, but was the backup I performed the proper one to do before flashing a new ROM??
It was, for the most part. The backup you perform (called a Nandroid Backup) makes a snapshot of the system configuration at the time you backed it up.
If you ever want to come back to where you were, just flash back to Andromeda and restore that backup.
If you're wanting a backup that will cross the Andromeda-ICS gap, though, you'll need something like Titanium Backup, as a Nandroid backup is specific to the configuration it was created in (i.e. you have to be in the same ROM to restore from that backup).
NOTE: --VERY IMPORTANT-- Nandroid backups DO NOT back up your pictures, music, documents, etc. These are separate items on the Internal SD card.
I would highly recommend that before you go any further that you plug your phone into your computer and copy everything that shows up on the internal SD card to a safe place. While you're at it, make a copy of your /efs folder.
thanks I made a backup of everything else...what was the efs folder? from it being unlocked?
anyways now I can proceed to wiping the data to flash the rom of my choice?

SP Flash Tool Flashable Backup

Hei guys, I own a Chinese handphone. Tweaked it so much, soft bricked it numerous times, but I got the stock rom at my disposal anyway so it doesn't matter much. It's cheap so I can actually do some experiments or tested non Play Store, or even suspicious apps on it.
However, going back and forth to stock then reconfigure everything is rather tedious task to do.
I did installed a CWM recovery and did a full nandroid backup. But it's seem that CWM backup didn't overwrite the old one so when I do a second one it failed, saying I'm out of space? I still got about 2 GB on internal storage, and 8 GB on external storage. It's said my folder (I forgot which, it's /data if I'm not mistaken) don't have space left. This is one funny thing about my phone, it doesn't use the internal storage at all. I cannot move the apps to the internal storage as well, only to the external SD card.
I'm out of space probably also because I move so many app as system. This way when I do a factory reset I got all my updated apps within, without the need to reinstall it.
So, the questions :
Is there any way to make CWM to actually update a backup, instead of creating a new one? Which partition I should wipe from CWM if I want to create an updated backup? It is convenient to do the restore directly from CWM, but I cannot update the backup, with that space problem.
How about creating a full custom ROM flashable image of my phone on which I can save to my PC instead?
How about going on fetching the nandroid backup CWM generated? Is it flashable using SP Tool? But I can't find the files anywhere in my system.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you!
Found some stuffs on CWM backup.
I'll update this thread when I've worked it out.
I'm an idiot. I can actually save the CWM backup into the internal SD. It's visible on any file manager within the folder "clockworkmod".
Sorry I did have experience with CWM, but never use it for backup, only to flash patches.

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