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Question about Forum rules

So I went to post in the development area and have been on the forums for a long time.. Just never posted.. And I am told I need to post 10 messages before I can answer a question someone asked in Development.. That makes no sense to me.. I have to post in a section that I have 0 interest in to be able to post in one that I do..
Could someone explain that to me?

Fluffster said:
So I went to post in the development area and have been on the forums for a long time.. Just never posted.. And I am told I need to post 10 messages before I can answer a question someone asked in Development.. That makes no sense to me.. I have to post in a section that I have 0 interest in to be able to post in one that I do..
Could someone explain that to me?
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It's to prevent from newcommers to post in Dev and cluter it.

Yea but I feel that should be based on time on account and not ammount of posts.. /shrug.. Guess I have to find random things to say.. YEA! to in general to make my quota so I can be helpful..

Yeah pretty much just have to jabber on till you hit 10. ***** about SamsungJohn, talk about tacos, etc.

@fluffster
Which rom are you on?
How long have you had your captivate?
Just 6 more post and you are on your way to helping others in the development threads.

Post your situation in the mod request thread in the forums root general. You have been here long before the noob rule, should have been grandfathered in. daveshaw or svetius or pulser_g2 will help. Zelendel would also be able to get you in touch with them. Send any of them a pm.
Sent from a super smooth captivate running andromeda

Johnnie5000 said:
Yeah pretty much just have to jabber on till you hit 10. ***** about SamsungJohn, talk about tacos, etc.
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SamsungJohn! Had almost forgotten about him

Just post in the OT forum and get to ten. Sheesh, the things people complain about.

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[Q] question about the 10 post for new member.

i wonder if these 10 post include reply to thead? or should i post 10 new thead?

i still cant submit post in developers , stupid rules...

ma20at said:
i still cant submit post in developers , stupid rules...
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Can we just say something to have 10 post? I really need to ask the developer

ya same thing happen with me.
they should change rules for noobs.

EdwardT said:
Can we just say something to have 10 post? I really need to ask the developer
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The same...

I'm also part of this new member minimum. I have been able to post before but had to change my account so now I'm stuck having to wait 10 posts before posting in the Dev section.

You started off well by posting your question here, but I see that the majority of you just want to 'ask a developer' something.
Questions do not belong in Development forums. Period.
Many of the site's Developers come into Q&A regularly specifically to answer your questions.
If your question is specific to a single device, ask it in the Q&A forum for that device, not in the Development section itself. You stand a much better chance of getting a proper answer (and not getting flamed) if you ask your questions in here.
You are welcome to post your questions in this thread, and I will provide whatever help I can, or point you in the right direction. There is so much information available here that there's a good chance your questions have been answered many times over already.
We all need to do our little bit to keep the material in Development sections clear and concise, regardless of what we see others doing
Cheers!

ma20at said:
i wonder if these 10 post include reply to thead? or should i post 10 new thead?
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10 genuine posts, not threads

how do i thank someone when i dont see a button?

Ah well I figured it out
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I dont like the10 post rule..i have an issue i need to get sorted and dont wanna run around posting in random things so i can post in the specific thread :S

We are all treated as babies and we must prove ourselves
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Moreover we should not rush. We must wait 5 minutes between post

I think posts on threads count too. New threads are referred to as "Topics" on this site =S
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I too think is kinda sucks to have to post 10x first but rules are rules. Been flashing for months now mainly Darky's but now switch about once a week.

I particularly enjoy this 10 post start up. It puts a pressure on people that don't belong to leave. I just bought a Skyrocket moving over to android from my iPhone 3GS and I've found this site incredibly efficient.

Its understandable don't want PPL running up the Dev sections with question anyway answered
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Already answered.....
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i don't like this rule too

That thing is weird...

I have an 8 post shortfall and want to contact a developer with what will be a common question, so I have to send a PM when a reply would be much more effective.
Suggested alternative:
- Restrict 'New topic' function to those with > 10 posts
- Allow thread starters to moderate their thread.

Strange board rules?!

Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........

n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Well I guess you should have done better research huh. All the roms on XDA are betas as there is no promise it will work. Also making 10 valid posts is not that hard. Any pointless post count bumping will be deleted.
This is a developers forum
Not a users forum

zelendel said:
Well I guess you should have done better research huh. All the roms on XDA are betas as there is no promise it will work. Also making 10 valid posts is not that hard. Any pointless post count bumping will be deleted.
This is a developers forum
Not a users forum
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Dear Zelendel,
this has nothing to do with missing research. I've been using ROM's from the xda-community for some time now and never had any unsolvable problems so far. Therefore I had no reason to post. Right now i'm encountering a strange behaviour with the newest update of the ROM I'm using. And since there is no solution described in the thread of this ROM so far, I wanted to contribute something to make the developer aware of this problem and to better the ROM. Where else would user comments be more needed than in the developement section? What would be development without user feedback? Nothing, I'd say. And if you don't think so, you can delete half of the comments there since they're often not saying more than "oh, wifi support is missing, why is that", "can you integrate that feature from...", etc. And someone with 20 postings can write as much **** there as someone with five postings, and they often do. So the number of postings is not necessarily a quality indicator. It's just delaying feedback and in my case the recovery of my phone.
This not ment to insult anyone on this board, it's great to have it, it's a source of great software and information. It's just sometimes you can't relate to specific board rules and it's frustrating because it's hindering you getting problems solved.
Happy holidays...

Did you try sending a PM to the Dev? Or maybe one of the regular rom users? This is normally alot faster way to get a reply. Most issues have been come across at least once before.

n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Simple!
Its to cut down on the n00b crap that pollutes the dev forum. As already stated this is a dev forum not a support forum.
99.9% of things you could ask or post have already been posted so look and read before attempting to post.
Post your issue here and the rom you have issue with and Ill try and help, although its extremely likely all I will do is use search or read forum and get answer for you, which is what you should be doing really.
And before you said "I've already looked" etc, You obviously don't do it properly as this very topic you have created has already been created and discussed AT LENGTH!!

n0me said:
Dear Zelendel,
this has nothing to do with missing research. I've been using ROM's from the xda-community for some time now and never had any unsolvable problems so far. Therefore I had no reason to post. Right now i'm encountering a strange behaviour with the newest update of the ROM I'm using. And since there is no solution described in the thread of this ROM so far, I wanted to contribute something to make the developer aware of this problem and to better the ROM. Where else would user comments be more needed than in the developement section? What would be development without user feedback? Nothing, I'd say. And if you don't think so, you can delete half of the comments there since they're often not saying more than "oh, wifi support is missing, why is that", "can you integrate that feature from...", etc. And someone with 20 postings can write as much **** there as someone with five postings, and they often do. So the number of postings is not necessarily a quality indicator. It's just delaying feedback and in my case the recovery of my phone.
This not ment to insult anyone on this board, it's great to have it, it's a source of great software and information. It's just sometimes you can't relate to specific board rules and it's frustrating because it's hindering you getting problems solved.
Happy holidays...
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You may have been using ROM's for a long time, but obviously not XDA. The 10 post rule is to prevent spam from getting into the truly Development Forums. The moderators can deal with the spam in the general, but it has no place in the thread for a ROM. If you go through the pages of the general forum, you can find numerous spam posts. I'm not talking about a pointless post, I mean true spam...advertisements and such. These are posted by people with 1 or 2 posts. So instead of complaining, go to the off-topic section, knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds and you are good to go. It is protection FOR you, not AGAINST you.

I have been registered here for more then 2 years, I read and read and have questions from time to time. but either say screw the answer (if I cant find it) or look elsewhere.
I understand WHY the rule is a min. post count. But apparently there was something wrong with the site two years ago and the "Action Required to Activate Membership for xda-developers" email had problems. Without activating account you cant even see your profile OR post in the designated areas.... annoying to say the least since you dont even know that you didnt get an email you were suppose to.
So after resending the activation link just now on a hunch (and getting another error /shakes head) I am able to post and see my profile in full I believe, since the email came through despite the error on the board. Not to mention why I have 27 posts yet had to activate the account again!
Maybe the post count rule isnt the solution to the spam problem as it hinders the very development its meant to protect. Maybe with such a vast team to oversee things that harsher penalties for such spam posting could be implemented and the current post count rule be abandoned. But what do I know it seems the site fouled up in a unique way for my account....

zelendel said:
Did you try sending a PM to the Dev? Or maybe one of the regular rom users? This is normally alot faster way to get a reply. Most issues have been come across at least once before.
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I did send a private message to the developer and I have to see what comes out of this. But in my opinion it is a lot more molesting to write a p.m. than to post in a thread. Also I thought it might help others with the same problem to have it discussed in public.

lowandbehold said:
So instead of complaining, go to the off-topic section, knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds and you are good to go. It is protection FOR you, not AGAINST you.
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I tried exactly this, trying to post ten comments in some trash forum or a very very old thread and guess what! You have to wait five minutes between postings as a "newbie" and even better the post was deleted just a few minutes later, resetting my post count to zero again. Seems like moderators take their job very seriously at 3 a.m. cet So no chance this way.

TheATHEiST said:
Simple!
Its to cut down on the n00b crap that pollutes the dev forum. As already stated this is a dev forum not a support forum.
99.9% of things you could ask or post have already been posted so look and read before attempting to post.
Post your issue here and the rom you have issue with and Ill try and help, although its extremely likely all I will do is use search or read forum and get answer for you, which is what you should be doing really.
And before you said "I've already looked" etc, You obviously don't do it properly as this very topic you have created has already been created and discussed AT LENGTH!!
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It seems you have more insight in the spam topic than I do. And it's good people look after spam. But sometimes these rules are just getting in the way of solving things.
As I pointed out before developers are nothing without the community and the feedback of the users. I guess most devs are not programming ROM after ROM just for the sake of it or giving it to their ten close friends, but to spread their good work to the community for everyone to benefit from it. And how many of the registered users on here are really devs? Is it more than 5 to 10%?
Posting my ROM-specific issue in the general section? How fast will moderators remind me that this is the wrong place and the posting will be removed or moved to the appropriate section. So maybe I will do this and get my post to the thread it belongs to without having ten postings after all
And yes I searched the thread all the way after the release of the recent ROM version to see if someone had the same problem. There were some hints people had, but no soultion was offered. So to boost problem solution and for the sake of solidarity with my fellow users I wanted to post there.
But maybe I will just save my time and instead of posting here any longer and just rebuild the phone from step one with a new ROM. Seems faster than to get help here.
Happy holidays...

n0me said:
It seems you have more insight in the spam topic than I do. And it's good people look after spam. But sometimes these rules are just getting in the way of solving things.
As I pointed out before developers are nothing without the community and the feedback of the users. I guess most devs are not programming ROM after ROM just for the sake of it or giving it to their ten close friends, but to spread their good work to the community for everyone to benefit from it. And how many of the registered users on here are really devs? Is it more than 5 to 10%?
Posting my ROM-specific issue in the general section? How fast will moderators remind me that this is the wrong place and the posting will be removed or moved to the appropriate section. So maybe I will do this and get my post to the thread it belongs to without having ten postings after all
And yes I searched the thread all the way after the release of the recent ROM version to see if someone had the same problem. There were some hints people had, but no soultion was offered. So to boost problem solution and for the sake of solidarity with my fellow users I wanted to post there.
But maybe I will just save my time and instead of posting here any longer and just rebuild the phone from step one with a new ROM. Seems faster than to get help here.
Happy holidays...
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Many moon's ago before implementation of post rules there wasn't just a small amount of spam and most of our time was dishing out bans and removing threads so the implementation is to help users and XDA it may be a gripe to new users but it saves work load in the long run.
Besides 10 posts without being SPAM is easily achievable.
Sent from the valley of the shadows....

@ OP
No need to create tipple posts, You have a "multi-quote" button or an "edit" button.
The 10 post rule has absolutely nothing to do with advertising spam, Its simply to do with not allowing new users to post questions etc since any questions they have will have already been asked and people was getting sick of seeing the same ****. The limit is there to force users to sit back and have a good read instead of jumping in and posting as soon as they reach hurdle.
Also do not listen to the person who told you to post knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds as they will just get pruned by mods after users report you.

TheATHEiST said:
@ OP
No need to create tipple posts, You have a "multi-quote" button or an "edit" button.
The 10 post rule has absolutely nothing to do with advertising spam, Its simply to do with not allowing new users to post questions etc since any questions they have will have already been asked and people was getting sick of seeing the same ****. The limit is there to force users to sit back and have a good read instead of jumping in and posting as soon as they reach hurdle.
Also do not listen to the person who told you to post knock out 10 posts in 30 seconds as they will just get pruned by mods after users report you.
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HAHAHA, so post 10 posts and you are not a noob. Get real buddy. And if you re read my post you will see that I said to do it in THE OFF TOPIC SECTION! I highly doubt he will get reported to a mod for posting in the "3 Word Story" thread. Grow up.

lowandbehold said:
HAHAHA, so post 10 posts and you are not a noob. Get real buddy. And if you re read my post you will see that I said to do it in THE OFF TOPIC SECTION! I highly doubt he will get reported to a mod for posting in the "3 Word Story" thread. Grow up.
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Firstly, When did I say or infer that posting 10 posts and you're not a n00b??
I said that the 10 post rule is to stop n00bs joining up and immediately jumping in and posting without first searching. Also yes he will get reported and posts pruned, even in off-topic section if they are his first posts and simply spamming to bypass 10 post rule.
Secondly, "grow up"?? wtf are you talking about? Have you been smoking crack with your family today for Xmas? If you are going to reply or contradict me at least try and make sense.

TheATHEiST said:
Firstly, When did I say or infer that posting 10 posts and you're not a n00b??
I said that the 10 post rule is to stop n00bs joining up and immediately jumping in and posting without first searching. Also yes he will get reported and posts pruned, even in off-topic section if they are his first posts and simply spamming to bypass 10 post rule.
Secondly, "grow up"?? wtf are you talking about? Have you been smoking crack with your family today for Xmas? If you are going to reply or contradict me at least try and make sense.
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You are very lost and confused...

n0me said:
Why is it that I have to wait ten postings long to ask a question concerning a problem with a ROM I'm using? You want me really to do some generic blabla to wait till I'm "qualified enough" to post on a thread in the developement section? Oh and in the meantime I'll go to a public phone instead of using my mobile that is not working due to a problem from one of the ROM's on here. That is not very user friendly to say the least.
And eight more postings to go........
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Seriously, come on..
I fully understand this rule and I have "only" been a member since feb 2011..
Since I own a huge forum of my own I might have some info to bring forward to you.
If you allow newbies to post everywhere, where do you think the forum will be placed?
a) In the top of active forum list?
b) In the spammers heaven list?
And a follow up to that, where do you think a forum owner would like to end up?

All right kids knock it off. The 10 post rule is there for a reason and it is not hard to make 10 good posts.
As for the question of what would be posted if users couldn't post? Well check my sign for that answer. Before android hit the masses, the posts in Dev based threads were Dev related posts offering fixes. If something is broken in a rom your using then dig in and try to fix it. That is what XDA is here for. To help others learn. Rom makers do it for the fun of it and decide to share. Some also include small bugs to see who will try to help fix it by providing good info and possible fixes and who will post "huh this is broke please fix"

Meanwhile back at the ranch...
Ok, to end this thread, I restored the phone yesterday using the good old diy-trial-and-error method. Works like a charm again with the old ROM. I have to see where I go from here ROM-wise. I will probably change the ROM and move to a more user-focused community. Meanwhile the dev got back to my p.m. explaining what could have caused the problem, which is very kind of him. So thanks to ladyboo for helping out.

n0me said:
I will probably change the ROM and move to a more user-focused community.
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lol, good luck finding a forum with even 1% of the roms/releasers/info that XDA has

LMAO!! So...I think he got his 10 posts here...
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LMAO!! So...I think he got his 10 posts here...
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But I understand the need for 10 posts...It's really not that hard. and in the case of an emergency...PM the dev.. I did

Cannot reply threads

I noticed that I cannot reply in all threads when I logged in successfully. When i click reply, it show like below image.
Enter username & password again. That log in page shows again.
Help me to resolve that problem. Thanks.
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I cannot reply so i edit my post.
@kriticar: Did you see my post count man? Thanks for your reply.

Well there is a rule that prevents new users to post directly to the developer's forums.
Idea is good, but if you are just a new user not a novice, it's a bit stupid.
Anyway, you have to post 10 posts to the general or q&a forums.
Probably you will end up asking some silly questions until you reach those 10 posts, but rules are rules.
Regards.

May I ask what browser you are using? This could be the problem.
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Check out this [GUIDE] How to be a New User (and not a noob)

KidCarter93 said:
May I ask what browser you are using? This could be the problem.
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Join my threads here and here.
Check out this [GUIDE] How to be a New User (and not a noob)
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Oh, what a surprise. I can reply now. I don't know what happen. It's OK before but not in a few days ago. I use Firefox, Chrome, IE. But all are the same issue.
Thanks for your reply.

I am using Opera
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i guess you just have to post atleast 10 to get the permission to reply on dev thread

someguywhokills said:
i guess you just have to post atleast 10 to get the permission to reply on dev thread
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Yes 10 posts so they can be sure you've done your fair share of reading the forums. A lot of redundant posts would be clogging up the blogs without the limit.

> I cannot reply so i edit my post.
I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but don't you have to have ten posts, before it will let you post to every forum/thread?
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> I cannot reply so i edit my post.
I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but don't you have to have ten posts, before it will let you post to every forum/thread?
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It was hard to read your post (the text is small), so if I misread it, my apologies.

GiantWaffle said:
> I cannot reply so i edit my post.
I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but don't you have to have ten posts, before it will let you post to every forum/thread?
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It was hard to read your post (the text is small), so if I misread it, my apologies.
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Hard but true, 10 posts to be allowed

You need to reply to at least ten posts here prior to being eligible to post in general population.
Great way to get everyone actively participating in threads.
Samsung Galaxy SIII (SPH-L710)

Maybe you need to logoff / logon after 10 posts? Trying with a test account

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Hello. That reply limit to post in the developers section is pure crap.
An idiot can post 100 times with "hello" and then write anything in the developer's forums.
I was searching for an answer to my problem and I only found users with the same problem, asking for help.
I found the solution to their problem on my own (some ROM's are just missing Busybox, etc.), but I cannot post it there because of that rule. Since I'm not an active user of your forums, I guess you're not missing much with me )
Too bad for them. I won't bother to post ten times just to be able to help them.
+1 here )
Enjoy and rethink your rules. Cya.
Tks

taiji2078 said:
Hello. That reply limit to post in the developers section is pure crap.
An idiot can post 100 times with "hello" and then write anything in the developer's forums.
I was searching for an answer to my problem and I only found users with the same problem, asking for help.
I found the solution to their problem on my own (some ROM's are just missing Busybox, etc.), but I cannot post it there because of that rule. Since I'm not an active user of your forums, I guess you're not missing much with me )
Too bad for them. I won't bother to post ten times just to be able to help them.
+1 here )
Enjoy and rethink your rules. Cya.
Tks
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Actually not, someone who posted "hello" would likely be spotted and reported fairly quickly long before 100 posts and have their posts deleted by one of the mods. The rules are in place to prevent spam for the most part, but it also tries to get people to become active and contributing community members in order to understand the types of posts that belong in the dev threads and which types of posts don't before they start asking all of their support questions there where they don't really belong.
There are lots of other forums out there, but none as good as XDA. Hopefully your attitude about being a community member will be improved if you come back. We will be right here.

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i guess you just have to post atleast 10 to get the permission to reply on dev thread
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I'm working hard for it
i need to post on development forums :'(

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i guess you just have to post atleast 10 to get the permission to reply on dev thread
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Hi. Just to see if have right to post here...

u need min 10 posts and then i think u have to relogin.

Account limitations and captchas!!!

So, i'm member for quite a long time (not including the hours i've spent without logging in!) and the post limitation is just of no use.
Mostly I browse through XDA in matters of need.
I Reply only in a topic of my interest, not just posting [email protected] so I can lift the 10 posts limitation.
Right now I'm trying to reply in a developer thread for a software that I've found a solution to a program error
and I can't post it because of my 10 post limitation.
IMO post count just doesn't work the way it supposed to.
It keeps away some people that want and know how to help in a problem but they are very irritated because they can't post.
And what's with the 9-digit captchas? I feel like I'm being punished!
P.S: I just tried to edit my post and guess what? I had to wait another 5 minutes...

It's got to be really easy to make 10 posts, there are loads of general discussion thread you could participate in.

killall said:
It's got to be really easy to make 10 posts, there are loads of general discussion thread you could participate in.
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Yes bro they are the best way to help new people and make them comfortable and also increase your post count
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Here's a good place to voice your concerns/get more information:
Alternative to 10 post rule
-Thread Closed.