[Q] Liquid Thunderbolt Problem - General Questions and Answers

Hello. First and foremost i am noob, but i fee like i've given this site a fair scrub for my situation and i haven't found anyone in a similar situation. I have an htc thunderbolt, I am not sure about any of the software versions, but i am on verizons network. I recently rooted my phone. The rooting process went fine. I then went on to install the latest version of liquid thunderbolt using rom manager. The install seemed to go fine. IT go to the point where a graphic loaded on the screen. I think its the liquid thunderbolt loading graphic. It's like this vortex-like thing with a bunch of lightening in the middle and then a water drop surrounded by lightening. Either way it's been stuck on this screen for the past 4 hours. What should i do? Is my phone what htey call bricked? If so can i recover from it? Should i just yank out the batter?! PLEASE HELP!

What you are describing is happening to me right now as well. Have you found out any new information. btw My tb has been rooted for 4 months with no troubles. last night i put clockwork mod/rom manager on it went through the process step by step then selected a new rom I think it was from liquid thunder. Now no mater what i do the phone boots up to the htc screen and then to rotating screens just like you described. that's it nothing else. it will not power off without to pulling the battery. i have pulled the sd card. it will not boot into hboot. press down vol. then the power.
thanks,
Jarrad

Hi, this is Jarrad's wife and I have fixed his phone. I was asleep last night when he did this to his phone and he has been up all night working on it. He even went as far as to make me breakfast in bed in order to soften the blow I guess with regard to the information he was about to tell me about his brand new very expensive phone, since he knew it would piss me off. So anyway he had the phone off for about an hour and a half on the charger and stopped messing with it. After he told me his story of what he did to the phone I decided to take a look at it. He told me that when you go into recovery you push and hold the power button and the volume down button at the same time but, this is not true or at least its not what I did to get him to the recovery screen. I was going to turn it on but, forgot he said it had a problem, so after holding down the power button ALONE for about 5 seconds I then pushed the volume down button and held them both together and boom the recovery screen came up. Now it was not a fluke because he then used the wrong recovery option and locked it up again. So, again a pressed the power button ALONE for about 5 seconds and then added the pressing of the volume down control button and boom back to the recovery screen. I hope this works for you the way it worked for me. Good Luck.
Jarrad's Wife Liz

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Phone keeps restarting before Samsung logo

I recently flashed CM9 (throwing that out there incase it is of some reasoning but I doubt it) and I've had my phone since November.
I flashed CM9 9/25 Nightly like 2 or 3 days ago (absolutely love it by the way, smoothest build/rom for the Skyrocket thus far) No problems with the Rom I might add, just my phone had just randomly restarted on its own twice while using it (nothing happened, just started right back up).
However the 3rd time, it randomly restarted and never booted back up. It vibrates and then reboots before it even gets to the Samsung screen and reboots/vibrates again (2 second intervals or so). The furthest it gets is like 5 seconds into the CM9 logo and then it'll reboot. It does the usual thin white line as it restarts and just gets stuck there. Can't get to Recovery for more than a few seconds before it reboots (not long enough for Touch to settle and do anything) and it won't get to Download Mode fast enough. Any ideas or any way to get data off /emmc? Don't want to lose a bunch of pictures/videos.
I have a replacement coming within the next days so I have about 2 weeks to either get lucky and get up long enough to save my data or somehow find a solution (doubt it). I already took it apart and swapped screens because I had busted the screen before and put the broken one in incase by some miracle the new one was causing it (no luck).
No water damage or anything to the phone, just randomly rebooted those times while texting or listening to music/what not and now it's pooped.
Any suggestions?
Tried without the battery (via usb/pc or AC source), without sim/microsd, etc. and nothing. Assuming I'm just SOL.
Edit: Side note, I got terrible battery life with this phone. I could only get 2 hours of screen-on time if I was LUCKY on Mobile and maaaybe 3 if I was on WIFI. The most I ever got was 5 hours on WIFI with a 3850mAh Extended Battrey (so even though it was a cheap battery, I'm thinking the phone had a problem from the get-go).
You Could Have A Stuck Power Button. To Fix That Try To Repeatedly Keep Pushing The Power Button Hard To Try To Unstick It. or try taking it apart and clean the power button
vincom said:
You Could Have A Stuck Power Button. To Fix That Try To Repeatedly Keep Pushing The Power Button Hard To Try To Unstick It. or try taking it apart and clean the power button
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This was my first thought, didn't make a difference no matter how I did it. Appreciate the idea though.
[SOLVED] It is indeed the power button.
I took it apart again and thoroughly mashed the power button plenty and gave it a good few breaths of fresh air.
After that I realized that, I put it back together and realized that if I held the power button right after the phone vibrated it seemed to get to the CM9 symbol more often.
So I mashed the power button a ton more, shook the phone like hell and smashed it against my palm a few times and...it booted! I was able to get everything off of it and reset flash/counter/restore to stock all without ever touching the power button. Screen Timeout @ 30 and using ADB is your friend. Now just to see if it magically works till my replacement gets here lol.
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[SOLVED] It is indeed the power button.
I took it apart again and thoroughly mashed the power button plenty and gave it a good few breaths of fresh air.
After that I realized that, I put it back together and realized that if I held the power button right after the phone vibrated it seemed to get to the CM9 symbol more often.
So I mashed the power button a ton more, shook the phone like hell and smashed it against my palm a few times and...it booted! I was able to get everything off of it and reset flash/counter/restore to stock all without ever touching the power button. Screen Timeout @ 30 and using ADB is your friend. Now just to see if it magically works till my replacement gets here lol.
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i know its sounds too simplistic as to blame a sticky power button and users dismiss the idea because they'll blame themselves, a bad flash, or the rom, but a reboot at a 8-10sec interval is the power button internal switch making contact, sometimes its an easy fix or sometimes it takes more than a few tries, or taking it apart to clean the internals
My phone goes anywhere now from 10 seconds to a full day without having a reboot with continuous vibration at 2 second intervals. Flashed to stable ROM's so that's definitely not the issue. I've had this phone since Christmas 2011 so I'm assuming I don't have warranty? You guys just unscrewed the screws and got into the internals I'm assuming?

[Q] GS4G keeps reseting every 3 seconds

Hello.
I have searched the forums about my issue, and although there are a lot of threads about phones rebooting, there was none about such exact problem as I am experiencing. I apologize if I missed a thread which tackled this problem.
Symptoms:
1. my galaxy S 4G reboots about every 3 seconds: it only gets to the very first "Samsung Galaxy S 4G T-mobile" logo, and reboot
2. it is possible to access boot menu (volume up+down), but only for a split second, and phone reboots again
3. rebooting starts as soon as in put battery in, no need to even press the power button
All that started by itself yesterday. I thought it was a mechanical fault with power switch, I opened the phone, unscrewed covers, cleaned everything, but found no mechanical issue. I switched batteries, tried starting the phone of plugged-in charger, on usb cable, took out sd card, sim card, put a different sim card in... and nothing helped.
Phone runs on Gingerbread 2.3, stock by T-mobile, never had any other roms on it. Device is rooted.
If anyone has an idea how to approach this issue, please let me know. Or reply with a link to somewhere I can read more. I was not able to find much on this...
Thank you!
Malarz
The phone sometimes does a reboot loop if u take the battery out of the phone without turning the power off. Just keep trying to turn it on, and eventually it would reboot properly. Take the battery out of the phone for a few minutes, put it back and try to turn it on again. Do this a few times to see if it boot back properly.
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gizmoscoop said:
The phone sometimes does a reboot loop if u take the battery out of the phone without turning the power off. Just keep trying to turn it on, and eventually it would reboot properly. Take the battery out of the phone for a few minutes, put it back and try to turn it on again. Do this a few times to see if it boot back properly.
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Thank you for a prompt reply!
I did take out battery for a long time, well over one hour, and took out sim card and sd card as well. Unfortunately reboot loop started immediately when I placed battery back in the phone. That's what made me think it was a mechanical issue with power button.
I will try keeping battery out a few times again today.
One other thing: the phone had been in hot and humid environment for about 30 minutes before this happened. Not the first time for this phone to experience high humidity, though. However, I did not find any moisture inside the unit.
Malarz
I had this happened to my phone. Just wait it out and keep trying to reboot, it will come around. Take the battery out and put it back on. Keep on repeating this step.
Also, when the phone is on, try to hold the volume - + and power button at the same time to see if u can get into boot mode.
Also u can use hair blow dryer to blow dry area around the power button.
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Or, batt is dead...
You have a stuck power button. Take apart the phone and clean the power bottom with compressed air. Then rapidly push the button in and out for a while.
Resolution:
I took the phone apart, and checked the power button (which had been my first guess), and was seemingly all right.
The battery was also not the issue, as I tried 3 different batteries.
Having no other choice, I put the battery back in, and let the phone happily reboot at its own leisure. After over 20 reboots, the system came on. Then a few minutes later the device rebooted again, and the loop started all over. After a while it booted up again. This time I did not wait for the device to reboot by itself, and I switched the phone off with power button, and then turned back on, and it booted normally. Repeated this once more - normal boot again. One more power off, and I entered the boot menu and did factory reset. Once the stock reinstalled, everything would work perfectly - no more issues with boot loop.
So it seems to me as a software problem more than anything else.
Side note: for the last several weeks the phone displayed strange behavior, that is the screen would light up for no reason by itself, and quickly go off. Sometimes it happened once every few minutes, sometimes it happened several times a minute. Did it have anything to do with the boot loop? No idea. But it strengthens my hunch about a software issue, as that behavior also went away after factory reset.
Sorry for the lengthy post, but since I have not found a similar case anywhere in the forums, I though someone might find this interesting. I do not deal with phones except as a user, but some of you guys do it maybe professionally, so maybe this will be a curious puzzle for you to solve.
Malarz
It sounds like Gremlins....
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Do you have notifications set up? It could notify that u have incoming messages such as a text or an email.
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Malarz said:
Resolution:
I took the phone apart, and checked the power button (which had been my first guess), and was seemingly all right.
The battery was also not the issue, as I tried 3 different batteries.
Having no other choice, I put the battery back in, and let the phone happily reboot at its own leisure. After over 20 reboots, the system came on. Then a few minutes later the device rebooted again, and the loop started all over. After a while it booted up again. This time I did not wait for the device to reboot by itself, and I switched the phone off with power button, and then turned back on, and it booted normally. Repeated this once more - normal boot again. One more power off, and I entered the boot menu and did factory reset. Once the stock reinstalled, everything would work perfectly - no more issues with boot loop.
So it seems to me as a software problem more than anything else.
Side note: for the last several weeks the phone displayed strange behavior, that is the screen would light up for no reason by itself, and quickly go off. Sometimes it happened once every few minutes, sometimes it happened several times a minute. Did it have anything to do with the boot loop? No idea. But it strengthens my hunch about a software issue, as that behavior also went away after factory reset.
Sorry for the lengthy post, but since I have not found a similar case anywhere in the forums, I though someone might find this interesting. I do not deal with phones except as a user, but some of you guys do it maybe professionally, so maybe this will be a curious puzzle for you to solve.
Malarz
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Hardware not software. You had a stuck power button. By forcing the reboot with the power button you unstuck it. If you don't believe it research Occam's razor. Glad you got it fixed(unstuck) though.:victory:
EDIT: Here are some other people who have had the same issue on samsung phones.
Stuck power button
Stuck power button
Stuck power button
If you need any more let me know. lol

Hardware problem?

I bought an used infuse the other day to fix and sell to a friend. The owner said it was bricked, but I've since gotten it into recovery mode, download mode, and a normal power on. It goes into a bootloop most of the time though, the endless bootloop people seem to be getting when the power button gets stuck.
I've completely disassembled the phone and I can't find the problem. The power button (the white one on the inside) moves completely freely. I've tried booting up the phone with the back housing off so the power button is bare but it still bootlooped. The only way I can get it to boot up is to repeatedly hit the back of the phone onto my hand as its booting up. Even then, the phone will only stay on for 30 seconds or so once it boots. I've read of people fixing this by simply throwing the phone on the ground, but is there a better way to fix this? What could be the problem?
Edit: I think I may try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235435&highlight=bootloop
It could be a weak connection on the mobo somewhere.
Edit 2: Yep! I re-soldered the connection around the power button on the back of the motherboard and the phone is working. Got it reset and now I'm running it without the second power button thing in the case.

My quest for a new power button with a twist!

So my story begins with me purchasing a used white Nexus 5 for $155 from swappa over a week ago for my wife. *
Phone arrives in perfect condition.
I first unlocked and flash twrp via adb. I proceed with installing Chroma and elementalx. Spend few hours on making the new Nexus 5 the same as my wife's current Galaxy Nexus.
Phone is running great. Zero issues for about 3 days while the phone was just at home running. She throws the phone into her purse and goes to work. Within hour she calls that her phone won't stop rebooting…. *Oh no…. The dreaded power button issue… right?
So I'm assuming the seller did the old “whack against a solid object” temp fix and sold it. I have no proof of that so I'm assuming.
So what do to? Well fixing the power button is still cheaper than buying another Nexus 5 phone. Everyone one quoted me $60. It is what it is… at this point I could have gotten a refurbished phone but what can you do…
So you would think this is the end of my story, right? Wrong.
I go to a cell phone repair place close to my work. They have this tiny power button in stock and replaced it many times before. I come back later that day to pick it up and they have bad news… of course they do.
After the switch replacement, the phone did the same reboot. Goes to Google logo and reboot. If I fiddle with the power button I can get to the OS but reboot right away. The guy proceeds with that it is me rooting it that caused it and I need a new motherboard, price $100.
I started questioning if he really did replace the switch. If it was OS related, the phone would not have worked for couple days and then break randomly. It would not boot to the OS sometimes or at least it would let me boot into TWRP, right?
Long story short, I left with spending the $100 on getting this used $155 phone fixed. Super annoyed at this point.
So after this long story, is there any chance this was really OS related and not a faulty power switch or did I just got lied to and the power switch was never replaced?
For sure, you should've attempted to restore the phone through Google's factory images first. My power button went super wacky twice since I've had it(day 1 model). I just pulled it out, and now the problem is gone all on it's on.
When it kept rebooting, did you try booting into the bootloader at all?
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Curiousn00b said:
For sure, you should've attempted to restore the phone through Google's factory images first. My power button went super wacky twice since I've had it(day 1 model). I just pulled it out, and now the problem is gone all on it's on.
When it kept rebooting, did you try booting into the bootloader at all?
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I sure tried to get into recovery but wouldn't work. Just kept rebooting. I had a nandroid backup done a day before but the phone would not stay powered on for long enough to do anything. It was the equivalent of having no battery left and phone just shut down and attempted to reboot constantly. I took out the motherboard and played around with the button before I went out to repair it but it was the same results. If I "massaged" the button then maybe the phone would get past the Chroma logo and get into the OS, but as soon as I attempted to touch the power button again it would reboot.
I tried reviewing the old motherboard and unless this shop's soldering skills are top notch, I can't tell that the switch was replaced. The soldering point were identical to the volume buttons. When I questioned the store owner, he stated they are that good with their infrared soldering He took out a package of 3 Nexus 5 switches and one was missing... meaning he installed it.
I highly doubt it was OS related. If you brick a phone when flashing, then it would just be constantly in a boot loop, right? I know I can easily go into recovery and flash whatever .img I need to, but this was just nonstop reboot and different times

Damn phone stuck in bootloop!

Came home from work yesterday and the Pure XL was dead, said it needed to be charged. Never happened before but I figured whatever and plugged it in and went to sleep. Woke up this morning and powered on the phone and the all white BLU splash screen came up and then the phone went off. Came on again and the all white BLU splash screen came up and went off. Ive tried holding down the power button for over a minute. Tried holding the power button and volume keys to boot into recovery from 10 seconds to 2 minutes, nothing stops it! It just keeps rebooting. This has been my apprehension towards purchasing phones with non removable batteries. The boot recycle happens about every 15 seconds and the phone vibrates everytime it boots up for the past 2 hours. Its getting very annoying and there is no way to make it stop. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thomasanderson said:
Came home from work yesterday and the Pure XL was dead, said it needed to be charged. Never happened before but I figured whatever and plugged it in and went to sleep. Woke up this morning and powered on the phone and the all white BLU splash screen came up and then the phone went off. Came on again and the all white BLU splash screen came up and went off. Ive tried holding down the power button for over a minute. Tried holding the power button and volume keys to boot into recovery from 10 seconds to 2 minutes, nothing stops it! It just keeps rebooting. This has been my apprehension towards purchasing phones with non removable batteries. The boot recycle happens about every 15 seconds and the phone vibrates everytime it boots up for the past 2 hours. Its getting very annoying and there is no way to make it stop. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Plug it into your computer (you'll notice that there will be a longer black screen in-between the bootloops) and hold down the power button for at least 10 seconds or more, then release it after the next vibration and the white BLU screen shows up. It might take a couple of tries.
If you manage to boot into at least recovery but can't boot into the system, then try clearing your cache/dalvik cache and try rebooting into system again.
If all of the above doesn't work for you, then your boot.img/system has gone bad, and you'll have to flash the stock images with SP Flash Tool (both of which can be found on other posts on this forum).
follow the instructions on the SP flash tool thread... sounds like what happened to me after bad flash... theres a lot of information in that thread that will set you up...
Thanks for the quick replies guys. The PC trick didnt work at all. I just called BLU and asked for a replacement(havent heard back from them ironically). I put the phone in the basement so I wouldnt have to deal with that incessant buzzing every 15 seconds. Eventually the battery died. Since I had it powered off finally, I plugged it in for about 10 minutes to give it enough of a charge to power on but not stay on to buzz for another 2 hours. This time I powered it on using the master reset button combo and was finally able to wipe the cache and restart the phone. Took a good 4 or 5 minutes to boot after that, but everything has been fine since. Really dont know what initially caused the issue, never happened before. Good thing too, cause BLU told me that they would send me a RMA within the hour and I still havent heard from them. Think this will be my last BLU phone. Thanks for the assist.
My phone Is stocked without root or Twrp. And I find my self having a bootloop once a month for an odd reason. This forces me to take bat out and put it back in or just let it loop til battery dies
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bolanoboyboom said:
My phone Is stocked without root or Twrp. And I find my self having a bootloop once a month for an odd reason. This forces me to take bat out and put it back in or just let it loop til battery dies
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My phone is basically out of the box and I'm getting boot loop problems when I first boot. This happens like once a month
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This happened to me for first time yesterday. Bought the phone earlier this year and everything worked fine. I restarted the phone because my sound recorder app froze up twice on open and the infinite boot started until the battery died. Tried the {power}{vol up} thing, didn't work to stop it, so I put it in my car and went back to the conference I was attending. Battery was dead when I got out. Contacted BLU by phone and they started a ticket for me, but I figured I'd see if other people were having this issue and learn what they did because I'd rather not be out of a phone for however long it takes for BLU to replace mine. Stumbled on this page. I never rooted my phone. And BLU only sent one wireless update since I've had the phone. I'm trying to get into the menu by connecting to the computer. Worked the first time, I cleared cache, and tried to backup my files, but I'd taken out the SD card in expectation of sending it to BLU. So, Powered off the phone, put the card back in, and now I haven't been able to get the menu back. Still working on it, if there are any suggestions anyone drops on me before Tuesday when I'll likely ship it (or at least hope to because I'll be yelling at them Monday), I'd appreciate it.
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num1greeter said:
This happened to me for first time yesterday. Bought the phone earlier this year and everything worked fine. I restarted the phone because my sound recorder app froze up twice on open and the infinite boot started until the battery died. Tried the {power}{vol up} thing, didn't work to stop it, so I put it in my car and went back to the conference I was attending. Battery was dead when I got out. Contacted BLU by phone and they started a ticket for me, but I figured I'd see if other people were having this issue and learn what they did because I'd rather not be out of a phone for however long it takes for BLU to replace mine. Stumbled on this page. I never rooted my phone. And BLU only sent one wireless update since I've had the phone. I'm trying to get into the menu by connecting to the computer. Worked the first time, I cleared cache, and tried to backup my files, but I'd taken out the SD card in expectation of sending it to BLU. So, Powered off the phone, put the card back in, and now I haven't been able to get the menu back. Still working on it, if there are any suggestions anyone drops on me before Tuesday when I'll likely ship it (or at least hope to because I'll be yelling at them Monday), I'd appreciate it.
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I tried to flash the phone, but the bootloop apparently wouldn't allow that. I had 0.0% progress after 3 hours. I then tried to go back into the menu you get from {Power}{Vol UP}: still no go. So, I started to take the phone apart again to get ready for shipping. The battery was still low so it didn't take long for it to die after I unplugged it from the computer. Out of curiosity, I tried to repeat finding the menu like I did earlier that day (conditions were that the phone had no charge when I connected it to the computer, and my SD card was removed.) No go. But, then I hit {Power}{Vol Up}{Vol Down} just to see what happened, and boom. My phone loaded up. No loop... Figured somehow the files had copied and the status bar was wrong. Turned the phone off, put my SD card back in and turned the phone on. Loop reappears ...I waited for the phone to die again, took out the SD, attempted to turn it on and the loop was there. Connected it to the computer and hit all 3 buttons, and the phone loads up. So, now I'm confused. Is there any way that the problem is some crappy connection to the SD?

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