Hi guys,
I am newbie to Android smartphones and tablets modding/hacking/ROMdeveloping and I am looking for the correct starting in this experience to optimize my learning curve.
What device should I pick? I am looking for the best compromise between these different factors:
-Large community support availability
-Hacking easiness (meaning a device most open as possible)
-Detailed guides availability
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Every single advice is appreciated.
Regards
Okay, let's reformulate the problem differently.
Which devices has best community support on xda developers?
A thread in our forum stated that Samsung fascinate has good community support. Could that device be an appropriate starting point?
I appreciate your help xda developers!
It depends on what carrier you're gonna go with. The sprint evo probably has the largest community, looks like the evo 3d will be pretty big too. Not really sure about at&t and T-Mobile. Verizon hasn't had much lately that's been big, the original incredible has a pretty sizeable community, looks like the thunderbolt isn't bad either. Currently the phone to beat is the Samsung galaxy s2, it can only be used on at&t currently but should be coming to all carriers on the next couple months.
No money, i would recommend the sgs and if you have money to spend the sgs2.
Both are awesome devices with a huge and active community behind them.
I appreciate your help K_nivesout and Dark3n.
I gonna process this choices and come back to comment on them and choose one.
Probably this experience would help some people in the future
Hello awesome people from the developer community!
I am not a dev in the least... I consider myself a "Power User" if this category exists, so please forgive my question... it may be ignorant or naive!
Here's my dilemma:
I have an iPhone 4 and an HTC ThunderBolt. Which one is more awesome? I can't say.. they both kick absolute ass! That is why over the past few weeks I've been switching back and forth between them depending on my style (Silly? perhaps! Crazy? Perhaps Not!)
I have simply just been activating them on my account prior to use.
However, I heard that there is a way to clone the IMEI number of the HTC into the iPhone. that way they'll both have the same phone info and all I'll have to do is switch them on or off depending on which one I want to use!
Does this method in fact exist? If so, How do I do it?
Thank you everyone for your awesome wisdom!
i believe cloning is illegal. i foresee this thread not going well.
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i believe cloning is illegal. i foresee this thread not going well.
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You would be correct. Phreakers used to do this quite often in the early days of cell phones to make free/anonymous calls. Not sure how prevalent it is today now that the technology has come down so far in price (cell phones used to cost $5/minute), but I'm sure it still happens.
Hi xda-developers, I'm trying to buy my first android phone, LG Optimus One and I need your help!
So far, here's the story, I've been a big follower of android since day one. I've always wanted to buy an android phone, but I tried to resist due to my limitations. But now, I can't take it any longer.
I've tried collecting money as far as I can but I'm still lagging a lot behind my goal. I'm only 14, here in India it is really difficult to get a job or earn money until anyone is at least 18. So far, I've tried as much as I can and collected $42 (parents and relatives).
xda-devs, now I can only rely on you guys for my further help.
How much I already have: $42
How much is my goal: $191
How much more I need: $149
How can you help?
Ask me anything I can do for you, limited online, and pay what you want.
Donate (PM)
I'm really good with computers and I'm learning programming at the moment (python and android development, another reason I want an android phone). So, if you can hook me up with a dedicated job or some freelance work that can get me a good sum of money, I'd appreciate it as well.
Heh, good luck with this one...here in Italy we have the Galaxy 5 which costs about 80€, cheapest android ever, but it kinda sucks (big time imho). Anyway if i were wouldn't even try to get a low end android phone, they are generally very slow, you might regret it. My 2 cents.
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vnvman said:
Heh, good luck with this one...here in Italy we have the Galaxy 5 which costs about 80€, cheapest android ever, but it kinda sucks (big time imho). Anyway if i were wouldn't even try to get a low end android phone, they are generally very slow, you might regret it. My 2 cents.
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It is the cheapest yet the most usable android phone. With a custom ROM, this phone would suffice for me.
This is really important for me.
vnvman said:
Heh, good luck with this one...here in Italy we have the Galaxy 5 which costs about 80€, cheapest android ever, but it kinda sucks (big time imho). Anyway if i were wouldn't even try to get a low end android phone, they are generally very slow, you might regret it. My 2 cents.
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I beg to differ. It pisses all over the Wildfire and you're looking at AT LEAST €100 for that.
Trust me, there are a lot poorer devices than the Galaxy 5 i5500.
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I am really tired of not having much choices of roms for the Skyrocket. Honestly, there is going to be alot of flamers saying yes there are, but seriously c'mon. If there were great roms, users such as myself wouldnt be always searching for a rom thats close or similar to ICS. On another note, Im also sick and tired of AT&T throttling my connection.. I'd rather purchase an unlocked phone such as the Nexus and run the APN through that phone since it automatically forces the connection to stay ONLY in HSPA+. Sure its not LTE speed, but like someone said, whats the point of having LTE with data caps? I am not the type of people who are abusing the unlimited data plan, I am solely using it for Pandora, web browsing, and Netflix. I accumulate around 4-6gb per month. I recently got capped on LTE at 1.5gb... So you tell me, is LTE worth it? Another thing about the Skyrocket that I dont like is that there are wait times for updates to our phone. Samsung lags on updates, yet, Galaxy Nexus, since its an OFFICIAL GOOGLE PHONE, receives updates FIRST before any other device. "TRUE GOOGLE EXPERIENCE" huh?
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I am really tired of not having much choices of roms for the Skyrocket. Honestly, there is going to be alot of flamers saying yes there are, but seriously c'mon. If there were great roms, users such as myself wouldnt be always searching for a rom thats close or similar to ICS. On another note, Im also sick and tired of AT&T throttling my connection.. I'd rather purchase an unlocked phone such as the Nexus and run the APN through that phone since it automatically forces the connection to stay ONLY in HSPA+. Sure its not LTE speed, but like someone said, whats the point of having LTE with data caps? I am not the type of people who are abusing the unlimited data plan, I am solely using it for Pandora, web browsing, and Netflix. I accumulate around 4-6gb per month. I recently got capped on LTE at 1.5gb... So you tell me, is LTE worth it? Another thing about the Skyrocket that I dont like is that there are wait times for updates to our phone. Samsung lags on updates, yet, Galaxy Nexus, since its an OFFICIAL GOOGLE PHONE, receives updates FIRST before any other device. "TRUE GOOGLE EXPERIENCE" huh?
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Hey., here is a thought.. If you can do better.. MAKE A ROM YOURSELF
Hater's always going to hate.. Christ how many threads do we have like this.
Go with that Nexus.. Do you realize 2012 will be bringing quad-core phones and the Note from Att&t. and that "wonder" phone from Verizon will be last years news... Good luck.
GalaxySkyrocket500 said:
Hey., here is a thought.. If you can do better.. MAKE A ROM YOURSELF
Hater's always going to hate.. Christ how many threads do we have like this.
Go with that Nexus.. Do you realize 2012 will be bringing quad-core phones and the Note from Att&t. and that "wonder" phone from Verizon will be last years news... Good luck.
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You've got a good point. I would make a rom myself if I had the knowledge and the time to develop them. I am not bashing on rom devs, its all constructive criticism. You also failed to realize my main argument was clearly not whether the Nexus is a better phone than the Skyrocket, it was clearly about the data throttling and how we CANT force the network mode to stay in only HSPA rather than LTE. And yes, in 2012, there will be better phones, but did you factor in throttling will always be in effect? So what your phone runs 10x faster and better when your data usage is still capped? Point of this thread is to figure out what is the best phone to use to REMOVE AT&T throttling.. This isnt a complaining thread. Its merely a [Q] regarding throttling and which device is best suited to work around it...
But thanks for the reply.
Yes what he said ^^^^ and let me ad first questions go in q&a and second. Lol puting down the devs means honestly you do not deserve to even use the awesome roms. They work hard on in there free time wth out pay. And let undeserving people use. The skyrocket will have ics. In q1 of 2012. But you should just switch to verizon. Because we do not need this kind of attitude in our forum. Or on xda period. Something to think about. And the trolling threads are becomng agrivating
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Yes what he said ^^^^ and let me ad first questions go in q&a and second. Lol puting down the devs means honestly you do not deserve to even use the awesome roms. They work hard on in there free time wth out pay. And let undeserving people use. The skyrocket will have ics. In q1 of 2012. But you should just switch to verizon. Because we do not need this kind of attitude in our forum. Or on xda period. Something to think about. And the trolling threads are becomng agrivating
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agreed!!!!! This is why im selective in my posts... lol oh yeah plus i know how to search...
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And there is an ics themed rom in the development section. I know you want more roms. But u have to understand dont post threads complaining about the development. It yas no benefit. And if u want to switch to verizon thats fine. But making a thread telling everypne your going to do it. Will only yield anrgy unpleasant responses. Good luck with your decision. Although in my oppinion its a big mistake
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Yes what he said ^^^^ and let me ad first questions go in q&a and second. Lol puting down the devs means honestly you do not deserve to even use the awesome roms. They work hard on in there free time wth out pay. And let undeserving people use. The skyrocket will have ics. In q1 of 2012. But you should just switch to verizon. Because we do not need this kind of attitude in our forum. Or on xda period. Something to think about. And the trolling threads are becomng agrivating
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Sigh.. why is everyone thinking i am putting anyone down. first off, sorry this is in the wrong section. I was unaware of that. Second, I am not trying to put any developers down at all. I am would love to offer my support and help developing roms if I knew how. Like I said, my comments are merely what I am looking for in a rom. I appreciate rom developers taking their time to make these roms and not charge anyone who uses them.. Seriously, your taking all my comments in the wrong way.
I am sorry if my comments came off offensive, I mean no disrespect. I am merely asking a question in data throttling and devices. I am NOT switching over to VERIZON. I am asking about the GSM Nexus Unlocked.. Please read carefully and not add flames to a question thread.
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agreed!!!!! This is why im selective in my posts... lol oh yeah plus i know how to search...
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All i am asking for is an opinion on which device you would recommend for my personal use. You guys are bashing without thinking about what the main focus of the question was. Seriously, the thread was made for help. Not to reject peoples thoughts or questions. XDA was suppose to be about a community of people who help one another with questions, development, etc. When did it become so hateful towards people who arent as knowledgeable as others.
Another thing, I've been searching on google for similar topics, but if I found the right answer, do you think I would be posting a thread asking? Seriously.
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And there is an ics themed rom in the development section. I know you want more roms. But u have to understand dont post threads complaining about the development. It yas no benefit. And if u want to switch to verizon thats fine. But making a thread telling everypne your going to do it. Will only yield anrgy unpleasant responses. Good luck with your decision. Although in my oppinion its a big mistake
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I am not telling anyone that I am going to switch to verizon. I am staying on my carrier and only talking about the devices...
I cant believe how many of these I dont want my skyrocket threads I keep seeing. especially ones "threatening" to go to a different phone. The gnex is awesome with ics on it but after thats gone (when other phones have it) what are you left with? the razr in a different form. Im not a fan of the 1.2 TI omap at all and can't believe its in such a flagship device. once the sky has ics the only edge youll have is the higher res screen, which at that point Id leave for the skys chip. If you can't do it yourself, donate to a dev and maybe they can configure a good apn setting so you don't get throttled. or just get a gnex and complain about something on that forum
Its all good. Just read your posts carefuly before you post a thread. It seems very much like complaining. Its hard to judge the attitude of people when they post sometimes. So anyway. The unlocked nexus still is a bad choice. Check out the galaxy note or wait a bit and there will be ics roms for tue skyrocket . And as i said there is a ics theme rom in development. That alot of people like. Dont give up your lte. For the nexus its not worth it. It even has less useable screen space. Also not worh the money. When for the same ammount you could have the note. With its massive 5.3 inch hd amoled display. You can get the international version now. But an lte version is coming to att in 2012
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Its all good. Just read your posts carefuly before you post a thread. It seems very much like complaining. Its hard to judge the attitude of people when they post sometimes. So anyway. The unlocked nexus still is a bad choice. Check out the galaxy note or wait a bit and there will be ics roms for tue skyrocket . And as i said there is a ics theme rom in development. That alot of people like. Dont give up your lte. For the nexus its not worth it. It even has less useable screen space. Also not worh the money. When for the same ammount you could have the note. With its massive 5.3 inch hd amoled display. You can get the international version now. But an lte version is coming to att in 2012
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Thank you, I appreciate your comment and I will decide to keep my phone. I am sorry if I came off the wrong way. I been searching for answers for my phone issues..
in your posts it seems you just want ics...be patient it will come. Give it some time and if it hasn't come prior to the att note or nexus THEN sell your skyrocket and buy one of those
.don't get an inferior phone just for ics
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Thank you, I appreciate your comment and I will decide to keep my phone. I am sorry if I came off the wrong way. I been searching for answers for my phone issues..
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wait till official ICS, our hardware specs are better, so in theory it should work better after upgrade.
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I had pondered the same thing but from what I read and have seen in the marketplace, people are not as happy with the nexus as they thought they would be. I think the hype was bigger than the actual product. I think the Nexus is a great phone but all the secracy and rumors made the phone seem better than the every other phone in the world. The Skyrocket has it's issues too but other than the screen, everything else is can be made better with ROM and the awesome Devs that make every device better and better.
Nexus is a huge scam..
A gold painted turd.
The gpu is old as hell
I'm not convinced battery technology is at a point where an HD display can really be supported. It looks like the Note is doing pretty well, but I've seen a lot of complaints about the gnex. I can attest that the Nitro HD had the worst battery life I've ever experienced...phone went back to the store and they exchanged with no restocking fee.
So, I'd stay sgs2 unless you are willing to lug a charger around everywhere.
Hi. I'm currently using a Nexus One on an ATT prepaid plan. I am not a very heavy cell user, but I appreciate having a smartphone, and fortunately for me, the 2yr old (almost 3yr old) Nexus One has been powerful enough for my uses. I am glad that community roms like evervolv make it possible for me to have the latest software on such an old phone.
However, one big issue has forced me to upgrade: The call-volume is too low, and despite spending 10+ hours last week trying different roms, it is just impossible for me to make calls on the phone.
Long story short: I need a new phone. I don't want to spend too much money ($100-150 at most), and my needs aren't very much. I don't mind buying a used phone, so long as it is an upgrade from the Nexus One, and actually has decent call volume. Can be ATT or unlocked.
Does anyone know what would be a good upgrade with this budget? I suppose anything made in 2011 would be decent (Maybe a Galaxy SII)? Ideally, I would have something that the community still makes mods for, so that I can continue to have new software. I havne't been keeping up with phones, so I don't know what would be good.
Thanks. :laugh:
Sir, there is a thread in place that can assist you: **DEVICE SUGGESTION THREAD** -- Not sure what device to buy? Ask here!
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