If i turn gps on, but dont actually use it (no gps icon), will it drain my battery?
Tik_Tak said:
If i turn gps on, but dont actually use it (no gps icon), will it drain my battery?
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No, there are no drain: disabling gps via widget or menu simply force gps off even if required by app, but leaving has no power drain if is not enable by application request
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Unless the satellite icon is in your address bar GPS is off, but remember that it may not show when geo tagging pictures etc, so if you've taken a lot of pics indoors your phone may still be draining your battery by requesting locations via gps or the network.
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It looks like at least on some ROMs battery is drained faster when GPS is enabled (and no application is using it - at least GPS icon is not shown in notification bar) than when GPS is disabled.
Is this a bug or normal behavior?
If this is normal behavior, then why that happens and is there any way (other than disabling GPS when not using it) to turn this feature off?
DavisNT said:
It looks like at least on some ROMs battery is drained faster when GPS is enabled (and no application is using it - at least GPS icon is not shown in notification bar) than when GPS is disabled.
Is this a bug or normal behavior?
If this is normal behavior, then why that happens and is there any way (other than disabling GPS when not using it) to turn this feature off?
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Number 1 rule for saving battery: TURN OFF ANY FEATURE IF YOU DON'T PLAN ON USING IT.
Even if you are not using GPS software, the phone still feeds electricity to your GPS receiver if GPS is enabled. That's not a bug, its just the way things work.
yep it seems to waste battery whenever enabling wifi/bluetooth/gps and not using it
I would like to disable the ability to disable the GPS in the phones for use with an "invisible fence" app.
I don't care if the toggle in the notification area goes off or on, but I would like the phone to enable GPS on bootup, and just keep it on regardless.
Any ideas?
Why would you want it to stay on? It is a huge battery hog.
voldomart13 said:
Why would you want it to stay on? It is a huge battery hog.
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mrcpu said:
I would like to disable the ability to disable the GPS in the phones for use with an "invisible fence" app.
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I think I was pretty clear in the original post.
WTF is an invisible fence app??
and any app that requires GPS, will use GPS as needed. OLD Facebook app version for example, as long as it was on your screen, GPS was constantly locking. But it would kill the battery in less than 2 hours from full charge. so the facebook app changed the gps to lock once every so often, while the app is open on screen.
Other apps run a background service to access GPS at a set or random interval. Google Latitude for example. Not on screen, but will check-in or update location when-ever.
As you see the APP needs to have the set permissions, and options selected.
and in the end. your battery is dead in 2 hours with what you *think* you want
TRusselo said:
WTF is an invisible fence app??
and any app that requires GPS, will use GPS as needed. OLD Facebook app version for example, as long as it was on your screen, GPS was constantly locking. But it would kill the battery in less than 2 hours from full charge. so the facebook app changed the gps to lock once every so often, while the app is open on screen.
Other apps run a background service to access GPS at a set or random interval. Google Latitude for example. Not on screen, but will check-in or update location when-ever.
As you see the APP needs to have the set permissions, and options selected.
and in the end. your battery is dead in 2 hours with what you *think* you want
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This is not correct. (at least on the apex rom I'm running).
If you turn off the GPS in settings (not using the toggle on the notification bar), then fire up google maps, the first thing it does is tell you that not all the options for locating the user are turned on, and to go to settings and turn on GPS.
I recall reading somewhere that Google disabled the ability for apps to turn the GPS on and off. They could query it if it was enabled, but couldn't turn it on if it was off.
If the user can turn it off in settings, then that defeats the purpose. I want the GPS on all the time, regardless of settings.
I don't care about battery life, I have 4 captivates in this house, I am well aware of their capabilities and limitations. And I don't really care if you think it's a good idea or not, all I'm asking is if anybody knows of a way.
there is a difference between switching GPS "on" and having GPS activated or locking signal.
in the android settings or with any toogle app, you can turn GPS on or off.
I have it ON 24/7, I bet you do too.
you turn GPS "on", so apps CAN use/activate it if they try to.
you turn GPS "off" to prevent apps from using it, thus reducing battery drain and increasing security.
having GPS on 24/7 doesn't do crap to battery, it depends on the apps, and how they are programmed to use GPS, and if they were programmed to work like you want, they would work like I SAID.
there have been apps that used GPS like you suggested. THEY GOT FIXED. you really dont understand how fast it drains the battery.
and i dont mean to offend, but you also dont understand how the apps interact with the GPS.
Originally Posted by mrcpu
I would like to disable the ability to disable the GPS in the phones for use with an "invisible fence" app.
I think I was pretty clear in the original post.
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No. You weren't, WHAT THE FRICK an invisible fence app? and how does using the LARGE font help?
house full of captivates? did your dad get a family plan?
As far as I can see, the only advantage to the location battery saving mode is that it deactivates your device's GPS. If that's the only savings, then I tend to just leave it on its high accuracy setting. It's sort of a pain to be reminded of this when flipping on the maps or navigation apps which require GPS. And, I don't have that take over the GPS in rogue fashion. Are there other advantages of the location battery saving mode besides simply deactivating GPS?
floepie said:
As far as I can see, the only advantage to the location battery saving mode is that it deactivates your device's GPS. If that's the only savings, then I tend to just leave it on its high accuracy setting. It's sort of a pain to be reminded of this when flipping on the maps or navigation apps which require GPS. And, I don't have that take over the GPS in rogue fashion. Are there other advantages of the location battery saving mode besides simply deactivating GPS?
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Not that I know of. But GPS is a nasty battery drain depending on how many apps will do background requests of where you are (NlpWakeLock), which will go though the GPS if you have it set on high accuracy. It also kinda depends on how fast your gps can locate you, so if you are near a window it will consume less. Overall, I'd discourage you to leave it on, and if you really cant stand to turn it on when you need it, buy Tasker and make profiles to auto turn it on when needed
tylerdurden83 said:
Not that I know of. But GPS is a nasty battery drain depending on how many apps will do background requests of where you are (NlpWakeLock), which will go though the GPS if you have it set on high accuracy. It also kinda depends on how fast your gps can locate you, so if you are near a window it will consume less. Overall, I'd discourage you to leave it on, and if you really cant stand to turn it on when you need it, buy Tasker and make profiles to auto turn it on when needed
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I don't know if that's accurate. That is, when the device has a wakelock and it has to do with those location nlp wakelocks, I don't believe the GPS is activated. GPS is only on when you see the icon in the notification bar as far as I'm aware. For instance, if I select "device only" or turn location completely off, I don't see the nlp wakelocks. I can only best guess that those background location services from Google only use your cell tower proximity to approximate location. In my experience, I don't detect any difference whatsoever between "high accuracy" and "battery saving" mode other than the nuisance of having to flip on GPS for maps, navigation, etc. when in battery saving mode.
floepie said:
I don't know if that's accurate. That is, when the device has a wakelock and it has to do with those location nlp wakelocks, I don't believe the GPS is activated. GPS is only on when you see the icon in the notification bar as far as I'm aware. For instance, if I select "device only" or turn location completely off, I don't see the nlp wakelocks. I can only best guess that those background location services from Google only use your cell tower proximity to approximate location. In my experience, I don't detect any difference whatsoever between "high accuracy" and "battery saving" mode other than the nuisance of having to flip on GPS for maps, navigation, etc. when in battery saving mode.
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I recommend setting location to device only. That's the only way to subdue the Nlp wakelocks. Battery drain is irrelevant unless you are using your GPS for hours a day. Battery drain is actually worse with wifi and network assistance because of the wakelocks.
Aerowinder said:
I recommend setting location to device only. That's the only way to subdue the Nlp wakelocks. Battery drain is irrelevant unless you are using your GPS for hours a day. Battery drain is actually worse with wifi and network assistance because of the wakelocks.
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Right, I'd just as soon keep it there. But, when I switch to device only, within 24 hours I get massive wakelocks from Search in the form of "entries refresh". When this happens, Google Now goes a bit berzerk in that it loses connection and can't refresh. Very strange.
floepie said:
I don't know if that's accurate. That is, when the device has a wakelock and it has to do with those location nlp wakelocks, I don't believe the GPS is activated. GPS is only on when you see the icon in the notification bar as far as I'm aware. For instance, if I select "device only" or turn location completely off, I don't see the nlp wakelocks. I can only best guess that those background location services from Google only use your cell tower proximity to approximate location. In my experience, I don't detect any difference whatsoever between "high accuracy" and "battery saving" mode other than the nuisance of having to flip on GPS for maps, navigation, etc. when in battery saving mode.
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There's an xposed module that puts the old gps active icon back in the status bar for kitkat. I find it quite useful.
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Hi all,
I've had this battery drain for a while and haven't been able to find a solution.
My phone works fine when the GPS is off (I have to turn it on, with the GPS off), but when the GPS is on I get a huge battery drain...seems that the phone never goes to sleep even after switching the GPS off and the only solution is to restart it.
From better battery stats I see there are two kernel wakelocks: GPS and gpswakelock.
Does anyone have the same problem?
Any ideas on how to fix it?
mantish said:
Hi all,
I've had this battery drain for a while and haven't been able to find a solution.
My phone works fine when the GPS is off (I have to turn it on, with the GPS off), but when the GPS is on I get a huge battery drain...seems that the phone never goes to sleep even after switching the GPS off and the only solution is to restart it.
From better battery stats I see there are two kernel wakelocks: GPS and gpswakelock.
Does anyone have the same problem?
Any ideas on how to fix it?
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Try to disable these in location settings
Hi, is there a way to force the gps to activate when i take a photo? Normally I turn off the gps when I'm not using it (maps) for save battery but that means that all my photo are now without geotag. My previuos phone (honor8) despite if I disable gps, as soon I start the camera app, it turns my gps on to geotag the photo and this is very useful. Is there a way to force the gps to turn on?
Turn Location services permanently. GPS on new phones is efficient enough, so battery drain is minimal. There are way better ways to save battery than this.