So does anyone know if this thing support AT&T 3G bands? If not, is it like the G2x and capable of it but just disabled in the baseband
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Nope, its strictly T-mo. You'll get 2g on ATT.
The only phones I know that can go 3g everywhere are Nokia phones. I love their build quality but Symbian SUCKS!
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So does anyone know if this thing support AT&T 3G bands? If not, is it like the G2x and capable of it but just disabled in the baseband
Daru
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Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);Band II (1900)
I only see 2G Edge when I roam on mine.
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Is there a way to change the 3G Frequencies on the G1 to support AT&T 3G network?
Nope, thats a hardware issue.
I thought it was possibly a software issue. If not, is there a way to change out the chip or the incompatable part to make it compatible?
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I thought it was possibly a software issue. If not, is there a way to change out the chip or the incompatable part to make it compatible?
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Nope...not going to work for many reasons.
been answered plenty plenty of times.
From what I can figure a hardware change may not be required with the correct radio but we dont know the right radio without the right hardware. lol I know that makes no sense but it makes as much sense as anyone can make of it thus far. When its possible I assure you I will be among the first to do it. Although Im not ready to try installing a new radio without first acquiring a backup phone but if I do Im gonna give it a try and maybe have better luck than the last guy to try.
What about a mini-usb attachment that can receive atnt signals?
I am sure with that and the right software manipulation it could work.
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What about a mini-usb attachment that can receive atnt signals?
I am sure with that and the right software manipulation it could work.
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While it sounds great in theory I doubt anyone would put forth the resources for such a limited market.
You would be best off getting android to work on existing AT&T hardware.
in order to do it we would need hardware which would plug in the bottom and software to tell the phone to use the signal from the attachment.
while there wouldnt be millions in the market i guarantee there are hundreds.
if anyone wants to think about it i dont mind making 50 of em and selling for cost. i have some hook ups in the engineering field i work in
ok, my question is... Europe 3g is diff than tmob usa 3g, but is tmob europe the same 3g setup as US? and if europe 3g is same as tmob europe 3g, is att US 3g same as europe 3g. so if tmob europe is same as europe 3g then a europe g1 should work on att US 3g. am i coming thru clear or am i jumping all over?
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ok, my question is... Europe 3g is diff than tmob usa 3g, but is tmob europe the same 3g setup as US? and if europe 3g is same as tmob europe 3g, is att US 3g same as europe 3g. so if tmob europe is same as europe 3g then a europe g1 should work on att US 3g. am i coming thru clear or am i jumping all over?
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The American G1 has 3G support for HSDPA 1700 MHz & 2100 MHz, both bands I believe are used by T-Mobile. In Europe I believe they use only 2100 MHz band for 3G.
AT&T on the other hand uses 850 and 1900 MHz HSDPA
The phone has the capability for 2G at 850 and 1900 MHz, so technically it can be used on their network, just not at 3G speeds.
Although technically it's possible to design a Phase-Locked Loop to operate at a variable frequency and to be tuned with jumpers or something, it's probably cheaper for them or they might be subsidized to make phones so that they are exclusive for one network in the US.
To me the ideal is more about standardizing the protocols and the frequencies used for all companies, and having all bands available for traffic. But at least in the short-term that's not really good for business and so probably won't happen for a while.
This is all based entirely on a limited amount of research and my opinion, take it for what it's worth.
Europe uses 1900/2100 in a pair (1900 is the uplink, 2100 is the downlink). (source)
Most phones produced these days are tri or quad band and can work (almost) anywhere.. I'm surprised the G1 isn't.
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ok, my question is... Europe 3g is diff than tmob usa 3g, but is tmob europe the same 3g setup as US? and if europe 3g is same as tmob europe 3g, is att US 3g same as europe 3g. so if tmob europe is same as europe 3g then a europe g1 should work on att US 3g. am i coming thru clear or am i jumping all over?
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Europe uses 1900/2100 in a pair (1900 is the uplink, 2100 is the downlink). (source)
Most phones produced these days are tri or quad band and can work (almost) anywhere.. I'm surprised the G1 isn't.
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*sigh*.
Folks, you need to learn about UMTS bands before complaining about that the G1 or any other phone can't do this or that when it certainly can.
The G1 is a 3g worldphone. It works on the US 1700 AWS network (UMTS Band IV) and works on the world's 2100 network (UMTS Band I). ATT uses the 1900 Band (UMTS Band II).
Apparently the common names for these networks is being confused with the actual operating frequencies because they don't upload and download on the same frequencies. The 1900 band is not the same as the 2100 band, even though the 2100 band (UMTS Band I) uploads in the 1900mhz frequency and downloads at the 2100mhz frequency range. The 1900 Band (UMTS Band II) uploads on the upper half of the 1800mhz and downloads on the 1900mhz frequency range. UMTS Band II uploads on the frequencies that UMTS Band I downloads.
These bands separate.
TMO 3g band is different from ATT 3g band which is also different from EU 3g band.
The 1700 band (UMTS band IV) is actually made up of 2 frequency ranges like the other bands I and II are: 1700mhz and 2100mhz. In fact, the 2100mhz download range for UMTS Band IV is within the same frequencies used for the Band I download range, theoretically making it cheaper/easier for manufacturers who make Band I phones to "support" UMTS Band IV phone production.
Most phones produced today are NOT "tri or quad-band" 3g phones. In fact, I have yet to find a quad-band 3g phone. If quad-band 3g phones were made, they would be very likely to support the T-Mobile 3g network, because it's the 4th largest UMTS band type (behind Band I, II, and V). I would be very shocked to find a phone which was 2100/1900/900/850 instead of 2100/1900/1700/850.
And the G1 is a worldphone. It works just fine on UMTS in Europe. It is a band I and band IV device.
read these 2 links:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands#UMTS-FDD
So to clarify, when you see a list of support bands, this is what you should interpret from those advertised bands:
2100 Band = UMTS Band I (The entire world outside of North America)
1900 Band = UMTS Band II (The Americas, ATT)
1700 Band = UMTS Band IV (The Americas, TMO)
900 Band = UMTS Band VIII (Australia)
850 Band = UMTS Band V (The Americas, ATT)
Outside of North America, the 2100 band is almost universally deployed, even where the 850,900,1700 or 1900 band is deployed.
Hi,
i live in argentina, and i found i dont have 3g coverage.
bands in argentina are http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps/network.php?cid=3206&cname=Argentina
Do anyone know if is there a way to config my xt720 to bands 850/1900?
tks!
There isn't anything to configure. The phone automatically defaults to the 850/1900 bands when 3G isn't available.
but if in my country bands ar 850/1900, why do i only have edge?
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but if in my country bands ar 850/1900, why do i only have edge?
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You probably won't ever get 3G due to different bands on the phone versus your country's. Edge only.
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You probably won't ever get 3G due to different bands on the phone versus your country's. Edge only.
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To expand on what the Rev said from what i know in North America all XT720s that were sold, were W-CDMA/AWS i.e. their 3G bands were 1700mhz down link and 2100mhz uplink. Although they did have quad band 2G i.e. GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
So if in Argentina they are using 3G frequencies 850mhz down link 1900mhz uplink then the xt720 will never get 3G HSPA, phones from the following carriers will work Telstra NextG phones (Australian), Rogers (Canadian), Bell New 3G (Canadian), Telus New 3G (Canadian), and AT&T (USA).
Hope this helps.
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To expand on what the Rev said from what i know in North America all XT720s that were sold, were W-CDMA/AWS i.e. their 3G bands were 1700mhz down link and 2100mhz uplink. Although they did have quad band 2G i.e. GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
So if in Argentina they are using 3G frequencies 850mhz down link 1900mhz uplink then the xt720 will never get 3G HSPA, phones from the following carriers will work Telstra NextG phones (Australian), Rogers (Canadian), Bell New 3G (Canadian), Telus New 3G (Canadian), and AT&T (USA).
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, I didn't know the specifics off the top of my head, I just knew it wasn't going to work.
I work for Tmous retail sales and we have never really been taught anything about bands. Ive been pretty curious myself since some customers come into the store with AT&t phones asking about tmo service. I have been instructed (by a fellow retail associate) to tell them that no At&t phone will ever have 3G on tmo ( I assume thats just the safe answer though).
real question!
in terms of 3G/4G (hspa+) what bands does tmous use?
same question for AT&t.
To tie that together. ex: If a phone from At&t hypothetically has capabilities to use the same bands as tmous and is unlocked, can it get 3G/4G service on tmous?
i did search around and didnt find a very clear answer so i figured i'd start a thread, im sure other noobs have the same question.
T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
The T-Mobile Vibrant actually has those AT&T bands too, if you SIM unlock the Vibrant, you can get 3G on AT&T.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/08/22/samsung-galaxy-unlockable-tmobile-vibrant-supports-att-3g/
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
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T-Mobile uses 1700 2100 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 MHz bands for 3G/"4G"
Yes if a phone has all those bands for 3G, and it's SIM unlocked you can get 3G on other cell company.
It's very rare to see a phone that supports both T-Mobile and AT&T 3G bands.
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Thanks for the clarification. In hopes that im not being a further nuisance, I was wondering, what about a phone that has 1 of the matching bands?
T-Mobile USA is using the 1700/2100 Mhz bands for 3G (UMTS)
T-Mobile Germany uses 1900/2100 Mhz for 3G (UMTS)
If you couldnt tell, im considering buying an iPhone (to develop on for fun). Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
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Will a phone that uses 2100 Mhz only be usable on USA towers (for 3G service)?
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No it will not get 3G
I'll be traveling to Beijing in a few weeks and have an unlocked Skyrocket. I will probably get a prepaid card from China Mobile.
I was checking out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426001
And was wondering if anyone had a recommendation as far as a better modem to flash to improve things while I'm there (and possibly get 3G speeds) or if the stock modem (I727UCKJ2) would be fine?
It seems that 3G in China requires UMTS 2100. From the Amazon description of the Skyrocket it seems like it might be capable:
It runs on AT&T's 4G LTE and HSPA+ networks (850/1900 MHz; HSPA+/HSDPA/UMTS) plus international 2100 MHz 3G networks. It's also a quad-band GSM phone (850/900/1800/1900 MHz GPRS/EDGE).
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When I go to service mode on the phone under WCDMA Band Selection I see: 850, 900, 1700,1900, and IMT2000, but no 2100.
Does anyone know if this is going to work in China as is, or if I need to tweak the modem to get it to work, or I'm just barking up the wrong tree completely?
Thanks,
Jeff
I have a Samsung Note Edge model N915W8 I recently got it unlocked from Rogers but when I try to activate it on wind mobile the phone picks up as roaming based on the specs it should be AWS compatible anyone have their N915W8 running on wind or mobilicity?
Model n915w8 does not work with aws
That's weird since the specs say otherwise. I was hoping it was just a software thing blocking the baseband similar to the s4
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That's weird since the specs say otherwise. I was hoping it was just a software thing blocking the baseband similar to the s4
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Actually, unlike Note 4 N910W8, Note Edge N915W8 does NOT have 3G AWS band needed for Wind/Mobility.
3g umts(w-cdma) frequency: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
4g lte(lte-a) frequency: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2600 MHz
It does, however, have the AWS band (1700) for LTE. In theory, it should work once Wind gets LTE next year.
That was probably where I was erroneous with my thinking I saw the 1700 band but it was for lte not 3G thank you for the clarification your help is much appreciated
Physically have tested 3 units and none of them work.... I don't have the Platinum balls to drop the Qcn from N915T on N915W8.... it can cause major issues with network... also the Stock Rom is not up for N915W8 as well....
I can vouch that the n915t from T-mobile works on T-mobile (obviously), ROGERS LTE, Bell (Telus) LTE, Fido LTE, and WIND (no LTE but that other poster said they are getting it next year). I tell my friends get a T-mobile phone and unlock it since T-mobile has both sets of frequencies.
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That was probably where I was erroneous with my thinking I saw the 1700 band but it was for lte not 3G thank you for the clarification your help is much appreciated
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Actually, unlike Note 4 N910W8, Note Edge N915W8 does NOT have 3G AWS band needed for Wind/Mobility.
3g umts(w-cdma) frequency: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
4g lte(lte-a) frequency: 700, 850, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2600 MHz
It does, however, have the AWS band (1700) for LTE. In theory, it should work once Wind gets LTE next year.
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I checked both Rogers and Bell, both indicated that there's AWS (3G) bandwidth which makes the Edge should work with Wind. It could be the APN settings need some changes to it
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I checked both Rogers and Bell, both indicated that there's AWS (3G) bandwidth which makes the Edge should work with Wind. It could be the APN settings need some changes to it[/QUOTE
I am facing the same problem
as just bought the phone but it is not working on wind
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hi
just surfing found below
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f71...qcn-files-done-asansambox-1880112/index3.html
"As always Here is a Modified QCN that I made for the Galaxy Note EDGE [SM-N915T Tmobile USA]
I edit the IMEI address so you wont have issues with it ....
SM-N915T_MPSS.DI.3.0.c5-00294-M9625TAARANAZM-1.6549.1_18-12-2014_15-13-18001
can some one guide to install in the phone
and is it is safe use
windmobile samsung galaxy note edge.
did you buy the phone outright? where did you get it from? did you try to change the apn in settings. heres a site with all the info for windmobile.
apn-canada.gishan(dot net)/settings/834_8_wind_apn_settings_for_samsung_galaxy_note_edge.php
Please do me one favor answer the questions here and let me know if it worked or if you found or find a way to make it work. i lost my phone so im paying for wind bill with no phone. i love the note so i was going to buy the note edge but theres no store that sells just the phone tied to no carrier. let me know if you know a place where i can get the phone that is unlocked to all modes. i know some phones have it. thanks please email me and add the post here to [email protected]
just take out this (dot net) for .net
Does the N915W8 work with freedom mobile now?