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Screen burn in

I have screen burn in on my Fuze. The two soft buttons and the bottom 2/3's of the scroll bar are visible when they shouldn' t be. For example, click on a reminder at the top so that the screen goes black with the next screen allowing you to choose if you want the reminder, wireless info, etc... At the bottom I'll see the soft keys and program select scroll bar in a gray tint.
I guess I need to leave a white image on the screen for an extended time to undo the burn. But I've only had this phone for a few weeks...I've never had burn in on a cell phone and surely never this quickly on any monitor.

Something similar happened twice to me.. It faded out slowly.. now it's ok
You may check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447891

Funny now it's gone after having it turned off for a couple hours. I'll post if it comes back after I have it on for a bit.

It's Back!!! only took one power on cycle and let it sit there for a couple of minutes :-(
kind of scary.

Is it still under warranty?

Weird but believe me - it is a software issue. Restart will always help

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Is it still under warranty?
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Yes, I'm going to get them to do a warranty replacement. I had another fuze that had a different issue (bad sound) that I replaced after 30 days...it never had this issue.

darfri said:
Weird but believe me - it is a software issue. Restart will always help
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I think the part of the reboot that "fixes" it is the screen goes white for a while which helps clear it up. But a few minutes later its back.

The same happens for me, but not very often.
It must be a software issue, no need to replace your device.
BTW, It's definately not a burnt in screen.

johanromijn said:
The same happens for me, but not very often.
It must be a software issue, no need to replace your device.
BTW, It's definately not a burnt in screen.
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It goes away easier if I use the SPB Clock and put it on the white clock...plug it in...set power options stay on 10 minutes when plugged in.
So it is an LCD type of burn it (it appears) as it goes away when a white screen is forced upon it. I think the pixels in that part of the screen don't change very often so it gets a little memory that needs to be "washed" away. Odd thing is my last one never did it. So I think some LCDs are better quality then others.

Its happened to me twice and both times its gone away.
Its good to hear its a software issue, I was worried it might be hardware.

johanromijn said:
The same happens for me, but not very often.
It must be a software issue, no need to replace your device.
BTW, It's definately not a burnt in screen.
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My first Fuze had this problem. Sure I flashed a lot of roms but each rom displayed the same result for me. After getting a new device, the problem never occurred again.
If it was software, it would be doing on everyone's device in the same place or region. This is a hardware problem, no doubt in my mind. The same rom on 2 different phones would yield the same results if it were software related.
If your phone displays this type of "burn-in" then take it back, exchange it, whatever. My new phone has been perfect and works as it is supposed to.

Unusual Events?
Were there any unusual events that led up to the screen-burn in? It is odd that they would go away and come back like that.... did you try flashing another ROM?

Saw this 'burn in' a couple times too. Was scrolling the touchflo3d and went to the photo and videos tab. Once in camera mode I noticed faintly overlay 'album' and 'slideshow' on the view finder. But the 2 words couldn't have been burned in as its not normally on that tab. Probably some weird software driver issue.

Using button backlights as notification light.

Yesterday my girlfriend received a txt msg, and I noticed her trackbal on the HTC Hero was glowing.
I remember back in the days someone made a cab that when ever your HD2 screen is on, the button backlight stays on (doesn't go black after 7 sec).
Now my question is, is there a app what lights up the button backlights as notification??
The small notification light sucks on the HD2.
Thx.

+1
I would also be interested in something like this...

+1
Im mos def in!

When I get back home, I'ma try contacting the dev of the previous app, to see if he can make something like this... Or help us out a bit.

Great idea indeed. +1 from me here also.

great idea whould be so nice if aassigned to the mid button or end call button..

Great idea - notifications were so much easier to see on my old touch diamond when the circular pad used to light up around the edge. Hope this one can be done.

It would be nice but I'm almost sure we can just make glow the 5 buttons in the same time (not individually).

try best reminder , you can find it for free, it sounds when you have one unreaded sms or one missed calls and unread mails, you can change the seconds to sound, i have it a long ago since i had omnia i...., is exellent
with key, have fun
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I was thinking bout knight rider... Like Kit!
use all the buttons illumination.
Imagine the light going from left to right, then back again!
So cool!

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try best reminder , you can find it for free, it sounds when you have one unreaded sms or one missed calls and unread mails, you can change the seconds to sound, i have it a long ago since i had omnia i...., is exellent
with key, have fun
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We want just the light, sound is always there...

I'll second that i want to see my lights strobing like kit when i have a message !

Ok I've contacted NetRipper.
His big concern was battery life.
I told him people installing these apps are aware that it may infect the battery life.
He is going to make a proof of consept...
ETA etc.. Dunno, he gonna contact me when he has something.
So please don't spam him! The app is on the way.

Light talk about notification ..
still no solution for some HD 2 with new mail notification light. However strange that sms etc.. does, and not mail.

Good idea, xmoo.
The LEDs for the buttons wouldn't have to be illuminated for very long at all. In fact a quick double or triple strobe every few seconds would be enough to alert the user. That would have a minimal effect on battery life.

Major_Sarcasm said:
Good idea, xmoo.
The LEDs for the buttons wouldn't have to be illuminated for very long at all. In fact a quick double or triple strobe every few seconds would be enough to alert the user. That would have a minimal effect on battery life.
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Yeah, the Diamond notification lights would light up every few seconds, not all the time.Besides, I'm running the continuous keypad illumination app on my HD2, and i'm more than happy with battery life.

Major_Sarcasm said:
Good idea, xmoo.
The LEDs for the buttons wouldn't have to be illuminated for very long at all. In fact a quick double or triple strobe every few seconds would be enough to alert the user. That would have a minimal effect on battery life.
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The problem is, getting the LEDS to work is no deal. But getting the LEDS to work, the device needs to come out of standby (but with LCD off tho, just like playing music).
And that in the Longterm can eat some battery. But then again, when were notified we directly gonna check it.. at least I am

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The problem is, getting the LEDS to work is no deal. But getting the LEDS to work, the device needs to come out of standby (but with LCD off tho, just like playing music).
And that in the Longterm can eat some battery. But then again, when were notified we directly gonna check it.. at least I am
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Yeah but i think the big issue about the battery life is enlighting the screen. When its stays off, its not using power. I don't think such an app will take more battery than the current top-led status listener.

Jealousy said:
Yeah but i think the big issue about the battery life is enlighting the screen. When its stays off, its not using power. I don't think such an app will take more battery than the current top-led status listener.
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Only time will tel

xmoo said:
Only time will tel
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First tests seem to indicate battery drainage is fair. A small test indicates that the device in unattended mode only takes about 3% battery life in 2 hours (100% -> 97%). The keypad lights have been blinking every 3 seconds during this time.
If I have something ready to test massively, I'll let you guys know.

Screen burn!!!!!!!!

Does everyone get the screen burn. Its really bugging me lately. I've had quick look through the forums but can't find much on it. Is there anyway to fix or reduce it with maybe screen frequency tweaks or something.
Sent from my Desire S using xda premium

I have two devices and both have screen burn.. in fact all desire s i have seen burn the status bar.. if screen is on for more than 5 minutes. don't worry about it

Yupp, also having it. Less obvious since I've switched to 25% brightness, but it is temporary, so I'm not bothered much.

happens here also. Try to apply a white image for some time, it helps LCD screens
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Not mine. Never had that. No matter what device.
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Steinhund said:
Not mine. Never had that. No matter what device.
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Probably you haven't noticed it yet leave it on for 10 minutes then go to a dark room, put on a solid grey color and u will see it

Nomader0 said:
Probably you haven't noticed it yet leave it on for 10 minutes then go to a dark room, put on a solid grey color and u will see it
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Ehm... If you need to perform these steps to see this screen burn... Then how much of a problem is it? The subject of this topic suggests that this is a huge problem while in fact it is hardly noticable.
In normal day to day use you will probably never have any problem. I have never noticed the problem with my Desire S

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't get screen burn on an LCD screen (which is what the Desire S has), only plasma screens get screen burn.

Yeah smart guy. Turn on brightness 100% then run i.e. skype and leave it in main menu for some time, then return to home screen and tell me what You see.
Good thing is, that it is only temporary and screen returns to normal fairly quick.

bronx said:
Yeah smart guy. Turn on brightness 100% then run i.e. skype and leave it in main menu for some time, then return to home screen and tell me what You see.
Good thing is, that it is only temporary and screen returns to normal fairly quick.
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If it doesn't last, it ain't screen burn. It's image retention.

Well... Then Desire S suffers from image retention. Anyone cares?

TylerDurdenK said:
If it doesn't last, it ain't screen burn. It's image retention.
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This. And I have it too on my phone too. And my tele. Never lasts long.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk

So...
In this thread it seems a known problem, yet some people don't notice it that much with normal use. I also have this problem, and I play chess a lot where I keep the screen on for quite a while before switching away. I keep seeing the board on the homescreen.
I know it's not permanent, it disappears, and yet, it's quite annoying for me. I have a few questions:
- Does this screenburn/image retention get worse over time?
- Is this an issue which only affects one batch of phones?
- Can this issue be resolved by replacing the screen? ...
- ...and would that be covered by the warranty.

ejtnaj said:
So...
In this thread it seems a known problem, yet some people don't notice it that much with normal use. I also have this problem, and I play chess a lot where I keep the screen on for quite a while before switching away. I keep seeing the board on the homescreen.
I know it's not permanent, it disappears, and yet, it's quite annoying for me. I have a few questions:
- Does this screenburn/image retention get worse over time?
- Is this an issue which only affects one batch of phones?
- Can this issue be resolved by replacing the screen? ...
- ...and would that be covered by the warranty.
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well, i'm sure screenburn/image retention is not covered by warranty, because sooner or later it will happen to the most phones, and i think htc knows that.
And i think it does not get worser over time. i just experienced that image retention was completely gone when i flashed a new rom, with different interface. And when i returned back to my old rom today, i quickly had image retention again. i do absolute not know if this relates to each other but i definetly recognized a difference.
i'm sorry if i did write unclearly, i try my very best

I've just flashed back to sense after being on miui and the screen 'retention' is worse than ever. Don't know if its just cos there is more black on white or some thing to do with sense itself.
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just my oppinion but i believe that what we are all experiencing is neither screen burn nor image retention. i actually believe that it is software related. why? well, if u do a thorough test you will notice that if the "burnt" image of the statusbar is observed on solid gray backgrund, the clock changes. i mean, without going to homescreen or whatever, if grey image is displayed and the burnt statusbar is visible, the minutes change as they pass. at the top of my head i actually believe that it's a transparency glitch. or maybe that's only true in my case..

xxmorph3u5xx said:
just my oppinion but i believe that what we are all experiencing is neither screen burn nor image retention. i actually believe that it is software related. why? well, if u do a thorough test you will notice that if the "burnt" image of the statusbar is observed on solid gray backgrund, the clock changes. i mean, without going to homescreen or whatever, if grey image is displayed and the burnt statusbar is visible, the minutes change as they pass. at the top of my head i actually believe that it's a transparency glitch. or maybe that's only true in my case..
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Hmm I've never noticed that I'll check it out...
Sent from my Desire Saga using XDA

Had my Desire S for 9 months before I sold it for an XE, and I had the same problem with the phone. What I found out was the splash screen of XDAforums is the best to see if you have screen burn or not. My phone's issue was worst on top of the screen, where the notification var is, whenever I ran xda forum I could see clock,antena and WiFi visible on the starting picture of it.
I also noticed that this issue gets worse by time, and the day I sold my Desire S it was in the worst situation ever. I could even burn the keyboard on my screen after like 5 minutes of chatting on Gtalk.
What I think is, Desire S LCD panel has this defect and this could happen to anyone sooner or later; however, for those who use their phones more intensively it appears sooner.
I suggest getting your phones to a service care center and ask for a LCD replacement, because it'll get worse soon.
Sent from my Sensation XE.

Ive never had screen burn or wateva and people who do tests i.e leve skype on with 100% brightness for 10 mins no wonder u burn screen lol bit of common sence here stop doing pointles tests and dnt use da phone as much, problem solved in my eyes but i must say ive neva eva noticed a burn on my screen or and 1 mor thing if the burn stays permanent its the screen if not, its software so rant ova lol
P.s i mean no offence to anyone
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goatimus said:
Does everyone get the screen burn. Its really bugging me lately. I've had quick look through the forums but can't find much on it. Is there anyway to fix or reduce it with maybe screen frequency tweaks or something.
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I get the screen burn quite often when playing Wordfeud...I just keep a white image to leave on for a while.

Display failure - Any way to help?

Hey dear xda members
i got a problem this morning.. like every evening, after a hard day with moderate handy usage i loaded the battery over night, but in the morning, my whole display was black, just in the left lower corner it was a bit lighty..
and it was kinda hot, not dangerous hot, as i noticed at my last handy, but quite hot.
i put off the battery and waited serveral minutes, and it goes on again. but my display looks awful. it's nearly black, on the highest brightness level it's still very dark .. and you see vertical stripes, i made a picture, but my camera shows it very brighter than it actually is ..
in the circle you see some spots..
does anybody ever handled this problem? i also made a screenshot and watched it on my pc, it looks normal, like ever. so i don't think it's a software thing.. also the phone works like a charm, expect that you see not much . should i send it back, and set it to stock?
could it come from a little overheating?
thank you for every answer.

did you leave the screen exposed to the sun for a long time? (on the nightstand maybe?)

No... It loaded just in the night... No Sun , only darkness
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i got a request.. i read the thread how to s-on, and de-root my device, but in some cases i don't trust my english and won't risk a brick so far..
does anybody know perhaps a video which shows step by step how to s-on, de-root a device so it is completly like it was in beginning so i can send it to HTC ?
yt don't show me really good examples..
thanks so far.

Question about screen dimming

hey guys got question for u all
i like so much the flip 4 but i sell it cause i had 1 major proble
i bought iphone 14 pro max but i really want my flip 4 again
my problem is any time im using the phone for facebook whatsapp and regular stuff with regular use (not even hard use at all)
the screen dimm to much cause the phone is warm
if i turn on the extra brightness its dimm alot faster with minimum use
so i i never used the extra brightness but always on the full brightness but i always use minimum use and the screen is dimm
any solution or its like that???? (the phone is ok i had 1 before and it was the same)
i have no case nothing i never pleyed games with my phone just regular use....any tips for what to do or this is how the phone act?
and just for you know im on android 13 latest thx for the help !!!

sounds like you have some sort battery saver turned on, have you checked in settings? this is not normal behaviour.

beanbean50 said:
sounds like you have some sort battery saver turned on, have you checked in settings? this is not normal behaviour.
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sure man i never use battery saver always full brightness all the way up then the phone get hit very easy and dim the screen the temperature outside is around 25 c

nobody got this iisue? no way!!

It is clear that your mobile phone has a technical problem that needs maintenance, but try to return it to factory settings

amincom said:
It is clear that your mobile phone has a technical problem that needs maintenance, but try to return it to factory settings
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ok but this my third phone loll, my sisters got the same iisue not just me, and we bought the phones in deffrent places :-(

nosferatu123 said:
ok but this my third phone loll, my sisters got the same iisue not just me, and we bought the phones in deffrent places :-(
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maybe i use app that make the phone to hot the the screen dimm?
im using whatsapp facebook instagram and messanger maybe? anyone knows?

On the Flip 4 I use the Adaptive Brightness "on" setting, and Dark Mode. Your results may vary, but here's what I've seen.
In the summer, on a sunny day, I'll notice that the phone will automatically try to be as bright as possible, so the screen is readable. (I'm pretty sure when this happens the quick display panel's screen brightness slider color changes to orange. Maybe the color depends on the wallpaper/color palette.) And I never see the screen do this "extra bright" thing indoors. Only outside and only in direct sunshine.
So far so good. I think this is as everyone expects the phone to operate.
Given all this, sometimes I'll notice the screen brightness will vary, even though I'm still outside and still in the same brilliant sunshine. I've noticed this commonly when checking Google News, and for example, I'm reading a story and scrolling slowly through the article. In particular when the screen is mostly black text on a white background.
So, in this situation, that is, a largely bright background, in the bright sun, my phone will both:
Get warm to the touch, on the back-side of the phone, where the two batteries are, but not up where the cameras, CPU and memory are located. This makes sense because "scrolling text" isn't that demanding on the CPU, but I am driving the OLED screen hard.
Also the front of the phone (the OLED screen itself) can feel warm. Even in the screen's crease, away from the battery. Since the image is mostly white, all the OLED dots are "on" and give off heat. Then again, I'm in brilliant sunshine and almost any surface will get warm.
Further, I'll notice that the phone screen will automatically get dimmer after a bit of time (perhaps a minute or two of extra-bright before the dimming). This I attribute to the software doing one, or both of:
Dialing back the screen brightness, to prevent OLED burn-in.
Dialing down the power usage by the screen, to prolong battery life and/or limit the battery temperature.
What's more, after little more time, still in the same bright lighting conditions, perhaps reading the same story, the screen might be noticeably extra-bright again. It's as if the phone has given the display "a rest" and is willing to go "extra bright" again.
In short, I think the phone screen is trying hard to be brilliant in the brightest of sunshine. But there are limits in how hard you can drive an OLED screen, and how long the battery can power the screen.
All of this before we start to talk about what design limits come into effect when the CPU or graphics processing come into play, both or which compete for:
Power from the battery, and
The ability of the phone to keep itself cool.
This phone's form-factor is all about folding in half. A slab form-factor phone, I suspect, will be far more capable for heavy CPU, graphics, and provide a bigger battery and better heat disipation.