I'm freshly rooted, and will soon work out the SD card issue. On my X2, I love using Astro to back up all my apps. This way, if I need to, etc. I can restore them en masse, without visiting all the markets, etc.
With CWM, I can make nandroids too.
BOTH these would go to the SD card on my X2. Neither go to the SD card on the Xoom (for now). So, if I just say, "who cares" and let them drop to the internal storage, is that safe? Meaning, if I have to do resets, etc. wipes and such, does the internal storage act like an SD card? Or does it get wiped too?
newskate9 said:
I'm freshly rooted, and will soon work out the SD card issue. On my X2, I love using Astro to back up all my apps. This way, if I need to, etc. I can restore them en masse, without visiting all the markets, etc.
With CWM, I can make nandroids too.
BOTH these would go to the SD card on my X2. Neither go to the SD card on the Xoom (for now). So, if I just say, "who cares" and let them drop to the internal storage, is that safe? Meaning, if I have to do resets, etc. wipes and such, does the internal storage act like an SD card? Or does it get wiped too?
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Your nandroid backup through CWM should be saved on your external sdcard ...if it isn't you must have updated to the recovery version 4.0.0.x which doesn't recognize your external sdcard and only uses your internal storage. You won't be able to flash anything from your sdcard either.
I suggest you go into Rom manager to all clockwork recoveries and choose an earlier Xoom recovery...preferably 3.2.0.0 if it's available, or get it from solarnz's thread in development. That way you'll get your nandroid back on your sdcard for safekeeping.
I looked, I do have the 3 version, and am backing up as I type! Thank you!
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When I format my card by putting it in the slot my laptop has it doesn't wipe the ext partition... I say this because it's showing that the 2gig card is only a 1.27gig card. This can't be right?
Any help is appreciated.
What OS are you running?
Windows 7 (64 bit)
I don't have a card reader so I can't test it but try to right click on My Computer and select manage. Then go into Disk Management.
The problem is windows can't recognize ext partitions so it won't mount them
Otherwise look up a partition manager to run under windows. I always partition under linux or with dedicated tool you boot to off a CD. I am not sure a good one to recommend to run under windows. Maybe someone else can recommend one.
If you made a 4gb ext partition on an 8gb card, windows will now only see this as a 4gb card until you reallocate the ext partition.
I'm running Windows 7 64-bit and I use Paragon Manager to modify the ext partitions. I am not sure if there is a legitimately free version of this program.
Thanks everyone. I'm downloading Paragon Manager now. I made my ext partition too big and want to put more music on there. I also feel like partitioned the card twice... I think I have an ext 2 & an ext 3 partition.
Again, thanks!
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mrcharlesiv said:
When I format my card by putting it in the slot my laptop has it doesn't wipe the ext partition... I say this because it's showing that the 2gig card is only a 1.27gig card. This can't be right?
Any help is appreciated.
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I use SdFormatter from this link: http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter_3/
Question:
Over the last few months I (like most people here) have tried several roms. I moved from the sdcard that came with the phone to an 8gb, no problems there.
The way I backup my sdcard is I make a folder on my desktop and literally just drag and drop the whole card over, hasn't let me down yet. When I switched I formatted the 8gb card and just copied my latest sdcard backup to the 8gb and everything works great. I am at the point where I have a lot of stuff on there from from things like apps I've uninstalled, etc. and I'd like to clean it up. I have everything I would want to keep backed up on my desktop.
So here is my question:
If I reformat my sdcard will the phone copy/install anything on the clean sdcard it needs to run?
If so then I'm thinking I could just copy what I want (nand backups, pictures, music, etc.)
Thanks
nebenezer said:
Question:
Over the last few months I (like most people here) have tried several roms. I moved from the sdcard that came with the phone to an 8gb, no problems there.
The way I backup my sdcard is I make a folder on my desktop and literally just drag and drop the whole card over, hasn't let me down yet. When I switched I formatted the 8gb card and just copied my latest sdcard backup to the 8gb and everything works great. I am at the point where I have a lot of stuff on there from from things like apps I've uninstalled, etc. and I'd like to clean it up. I have everything I would want to keep backed up on my desktop.
So here is my question:
If I reformat my sdcard will the phone copy/install anything on the clean sdcard it needs to run?
If so then I'm thinking I could just copy what I want (nand backups, pictures, music, etc.)
Thanks
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Yes and yes. I have cleaned house a few times by deleting everything off my 8gb card and bringing back just my pictures, music and backups.
If you are using an ext partition to store apps and want to delete this data, you will need to format this with a program that can handle this ext partition or the easiest way is through recovery (wipe ext partition). Otherwise, if you want to keep your apps on the partition you can just delete everything off the card through windows or even format it there.
Thanks Danknee!!
I thought that was the case but wanted to make sure.
I haven't had the need to use a2sd yet so that's not a problem.
One more question:
I've formatted and put everything I want to keep back. Should I just reboot or do I need to reflash DC!.0, the reason I ask is because there was literally nothing on the card after formatting (not surprising). So I put HTC Sync back in case I need it, will the phone build the file structure it needs as it needs it or should I do anything else at this point?
Thanks
You can just reboot. The SD card doesn't have anything on it that would be replaced by flashing anyway. Since you aren't using apps2sd, you could technically have two different SD cards that you swapped in and out. You would just need to unmount and remount them to prevent corruption during the swaps.
Apps save settings on the card, but these will be resaved when you use these apps again. Conversely, the apps you never use again won't be taking up any space now.
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You can just reboot. The SD card doesn't have anything on it that would be replaced by flashing anyway. Since you aren't using apps2sd, you could technically have two different SD cards that you swapped in and out. You would just need to unmount and remount them to prevent corruption during the swaps.
Apps save settings on the card, but these will be resaved when you use these apps again. Conversely, the apps you never use again won't be taking up any space now.
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Awesome, thanks.
I totally understand what you just posted... So HTC ships these phones with SOME files that you can't get back by reflashing? (ie. HTC Sync) just curious
nebenezer said:
Awesome, thanks.
I totally understand what you just posted... So HTC ships these phones with SOME files that you can't get back by reflashing? (ie. HTC Sync) just curious
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No, you can flash back to a stock sense ROM with no problems. What I meant was that you could actually use your phone with no memory card and it would be fully functional except that some apps couldn't save settings and data.
The SD card is completely optional and all the system files and system apk files are stored in your phone's internal memory.
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No, you can flash back to a stock sense ROM with no problems. What I meant was that you could actually use your phone with no memory card and it would be fully functional except that some apps couldn't save settings and data.
The SD card is completely optional and all the system files and system apk files are stored in your phone's internal memory.
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Sorry for the confusion... I understand the phone can operate sans sdcard. if I'm not mistaken I believe I installed HTC Sync on my pc from my sdcard meanin that if I deleted it without backing it up I would have to (Jeez, I just realized what a waste of time this is, but I'm in too deep to stop) get HTC Sync from another source, ie HTC's website?
LOL yeah, you are probably right about HTC sync. I downloaded sync from the HTC website anyway (to make sure I had the lastest version). Besides that, I can't think of anything else on the stock 2gb card that is irreplaceable..
It seems that Rom Manager wants to use internal storage but recovery wants to use my external SD card. When I back up my phone from Rom Manager it reboots into CWM and backs it up on the SD card. When I go back into Rom Manager to manage backups it doesn't see it because its looking in the internal storage. If I download a rom from Rom Manager it downloads it to internal storage and when it reboots to CWM it can't find the rom because its not on the SD card.
What am I doing wrong? How do I get this to work properly?
I am experiencing the same exact problem. I can not download roms to the external SD. It a freaking hassle to download and flash a rom on this phone. Any help is appreciated.
I am not even sure I can flash a rom with it. The couple times I tried it failed because I chose the rom through the /externalSD directory and thats linked from within the internal storage.
How is everyone else using it?
I copy the files from the internal and put them in the same directory on the SD card. For example the folder internally is /sdcard/clockworkmod.. i just move that directory to /sdcard/_externalsd/clockworkmod
that way when you reboot everything is already work CM is naturally looking for it. Yes.. it's a pain.
Alternatively.. when I had my G2 i got into the habit of just moving the roms to the root of the sdcard so it was easier to flash right from cwm (I rarely flash via rom manager). Nandroid backups HAVE to stay in the backup folder in the clockwork directory tho.
I found out with boat browser mini I set the download dir to /mnt /sdcard/_ExternalSD and my roms actually download to the root of my SD without errors. That's a start its a lot easier than hooking up to a computer and moving stuff around
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It seems that this would be a normal feature to come with such a product. It makes more sense to have access to the ext. sd card than not.
Maybe there is a very good reason for it? I.e. It can't be done?
ikarma said:
It seems that Rom Manager wants to use internal storage but recovery wants to use my external SD card. When I back up my phone from Rom Manager it reboots into CWM and backs it up on the SD card. When I go back into Rom Manager to manage backups it doesn't see it because its looking in the internal storage. If I download a rom from Rom Manager it downloads it to internal storage and when it reboots to CWM it can't find the rom because its not on the SD card.
What am I doing wrong? How do I get this to work properly?
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Same here.
This is a bit of a pain.
Instead of moving backup files across, I restore directly from the recovery screen.
As for ROMs I have to download them directly from my laptop and copy them the external SD card.
Not good.
Hey all,
Im having a strange issue w/ ROM manager. My nandroid backup works fine, and can be seen while in CWM, but when you go into ROM manager, and go to "Manage backups", no backups can be seen, deleted, restored, etc. (all from wtihin ROM Manager)
They are being stored on my external sd card in /clockworkmod (I haven't moved them, and I have no idea why it cant see them.
Could ROM manager be looking on the Internal SD for backups? If so, why would it do that when only the external sd is accessible in recovery.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
zimphishmonger said:
Hey all,
Im having a strange issue w/ ROM manager. My nandroid backup works fine, and can be seen while in CWM, but when you go into ROM manager, and go to "Manage backups", no backups can be seen, deleted, restored, etc. (all from wtihin ROM Manager)
They are being stored on my external sd card in /clockworkmod (I haven't moved them, and I have no idea why it cant see them.
Could ROM manager be looking on the Internal SD for backups? If so, why would it do that when only the external sd is accessible in recovery.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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I think it is the exact opposite.
Recovery only uses your SD card. Rom Manager is looking for your SD card but your rom has it "Sdcard" = Internal Storage and "External Storage" = SDcard.
So that is the reason. Just keep doing what you are doing. Rom manager isn't required.
If you used a rom like CM7, it reverses the storage so Internal = MMC1, and SDCard=SDcard. Thus everything plays nice.
Hi guys, I haved flash CWM to the external SD card using NV Flasher the external version and flash a ROM through the external version.
What shoul happen if the external sd card fails? Do I just take sd card out and the original firmware runs by the internal or what?
BTW, thanks in advance
I don't believe you flashed to the external, but you flashed the version that supports external cards. if your external craps out, then any backups are gone. It is wise to double up on your backups.. one on your card, and another on a service like Dropbox.. a free 2gb backup service: http://db.tt/ooY4qYA
Basically, connect your usb.. find the clockwork folder and your backup is in there. Drag/drop into your dropbox folder on your desktop.. good to go. Or you can get dropbox for the android and do it from your phone.. whatever flips your bippy.
Yes, external sd ext 4 support, thanks. So to restore the system to be full functional again can be 1) flash the CWM for the internal sd, put the backup inside and flash it. 2) buy another card flash the CWM external version put the backup inside and flash.
My apologies for my english, thanks.
josepr07 said:
Yes, external sd ext 4 support, thanks. So to restore the system to be full functional again can be 1) flash the CWM for the internal sd, put the backup inside and flash it. 2) buy another card flash the CWM external version put the backup inside and flash.
My apologies for my english, thanks.
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Hmm, with the difference in english, I can't tell if you completely understand it correctly or if you are mistaken, haha.
First and foremost after you have flashed CWM... You shut off your phone. Then hold down volume down + power.. until the green android logo loads, then let go. Then you will be in CWM. While in there, go through the menus and do a backup first and foremost. It will place the backup on your external card.
Once you do the backup, it will be on your external card. Take a copy of it off of your external card and drop it into dropbox, put it on your computer, etc. Basically.. make a backup of the backup.
Then, if your external craps out... then you can either get a new one and put the backup back on the external card.. Or, you can reflash CWM for internal support... and move the backup from your dropbox, your computer, etc. onto the internal. Then you can restore it.
Edit: after re-reading what you said, i'm pretty sure you understand it correctly. As long as you have your backup...and you have duplicated the backup somewhere else.. Then you will be 100% ok. Well, 99%.
Everything is clear to me now, thanks.
I'm having the worst time trying to find out how to friggin' backup my phone to my external sd card. For some reason, I can do it to my internal storage, but have no way of getting it backed up to my external SD card. I can see the option to select it, but I can't actually select it. I think I have to create a folder on my external SD card for the root but I just can't figure it out. Does the whole entire SafeStrap file need to be copied over to my SD cars as well with a repeat process of installing it the same way in which I did for the internal storage too?
Have you tried backing it up then manually copy pasting it to your sd card?
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I have not, as I assumed that while that might be an option, that if I cannot select the external storage option then something is wrong with SafeStrap. If all I have to do is manually copy it over to my external SD card, and with that done Safestrap can still function OK, then that is what I can do. I thought there was something smaller I might have been missing, so I wanted to make sure it was done accurately. Thanks for the input!
EDIT: My real worry with this, is that if I cannot select external SD storage, then how will I select the files I need to install when flashing ROM? I don't have enough space on my internal storage for the files, and would have to put them onto my external SD card, but if I can't select it then I have no clue how I'll be able to flash the ROM.
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no way of getting it backed up to my external SD card. I can see the option to select it, but I can't actually select it.
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I thought I had the same issue and mashed the radio button a bunch of times out of frustration and it eventually worked. It's like the touch isn't as responsive in that area of the screen when in SS.
Well, I got the ROM to work. Since my internal storage is only 5 GB, I couldn't leave both the backup file and the ROM zip files on the same storage device, so I moved the backup manually to my external SD and left the ROM.zip on my internal. I flashed them, got the ROM to work but when I opened it up and booted, as I expected, the phone is like new (nothing installed like I originally had it). Well, I can't restore the backup since it is on my external SD card and since I can't still select that option under SafeStrap, I'm kind of in a pickle here. As well, I my computer couldn't recognize my phone either when on the new CM10 ROM. I'm just going ROM this weekend. If any of you have any clue how to get my computer to recognize my phone when booted on the CM10 ROM, or know how to get SafeStrap to allow me to select my external SD card for storage etc I would much appreciate it!!