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I have just bought a new 2000mAh battery with a cover that fits the Ignito from ebay (from Gps4Less, I found out they have a website too) and so far I am very impressed. The quality of the cover is ok, much better than the ones for the Diamond arriving from China. It came from the UK so I did not have to wait long for it either. I charged the battery and after about 8 hours it is still at 96%. I have attached some pictures so you can see how it looks. There is no effect on the GPS performance, I got a GPS fix with this battery inside the house in about 30 seconds after starting Tomtom. The price was good about £16 including delivery, just do a search on ebay for 2000mAh battery for Ignito and you'll surely find it. I have been waiting for this one for a long time. I will keep you updated with the battery performance over the next few days. The only problem I have now is to find a suitable case for it, but it will probably make the phone even bigger. I guess the Invisible Shield might be a better option. So far they only have it for Diamond, not the Ignito, but I might give it a try. Now I won't fear of running out of power while listening to Internet Radio on my way to and from Uni
ugly as hell...
I will never understand why people get a SLEEK phone like the Diamond and stick in a FATASS battery and mess up the fantastic dimension of the phone...
You don't always have to use that battery, but sometimes you need more power, and that's when I'm gonna use it, I will not use it every day, and it's everyone's choice in the end, you can either carry 2-3 spare batteries in your pocket or have this when you need it. It's not too bad, but as I said, it's a question of choice. I could have got the original 1340 mAh battery, the back cover is flat and looks better but I don't think it would have been enough power for my needs.
P.S. Battery is now at 87% after 24 hours of normal use with 3G on, with the phone checking emails once per hour. Not bad...
cant find battery in ebay
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can you send me the link.....can t find the battery .....
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Hi, here's one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=350144524998
or this one http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/O2-XDA-IGNITO...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262 which includes a cradle as well.
Over two days and the battery is at 72% with 3G on and standard settings, usually by now I would have had to charge my battery. The best I got from the standard battery was close to 3 days with the 3G turned off(GSM mode).
Thanks for that hind, I've bought it this morning because I need an extend battery too!
Thanks mate!
Hope you get that out of your pocket when no one's looking.
At least the official one didn't fall from the ugly tree:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=173907
Honestly, it doesn't look that bad when you have it in your hand, and it lasts way more than the official 1350mAh battery that expansys is selling for over £50. This one was only £16. Now onto 5th day without charging, battery 49%. What more can I say?
Just ordered this battery as after 1 day out using WiFi to check mail and other websites as well as playing games on the car journey and listening to some music my standard battery died after less than 10 hours!?! This should rectify this problem....
Thanks zoltar
Quick qusetion though, does it actually fit in any Ignito/Diamond cases now? (I don't use one just curious)
ant611982 said:
Just ordered this battery as after 1 day out using WiFi to check mail and other websites as well as playing games on the car journey and listening to some music my standard battery died after less than 10 hours!?! This should rectify this problem....
Thanks zoltar
Quick qusetion though, does it actually fit in any Ignito/Diamond cases now? (I don't use one just curious)
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It does fit XDA Ignito from O2, it won't fit the original Touch Diamond, the back fitting is different. So, order this one only if you have an Ignito, otherwise look for a Diamond back case.
My extended battery just died this afternoo after more than 6 days since being charged, and only because I used my phone to listen to internet radio for more than 2 hours (it was 29% this morning). The last mobile phone to last me that long was a Philips with a black and white screen that I had back in 2000 - about 6-7 days. And it didn't have internet, music, office mobile, touch screen or colour screen.
I believe that if the manufacturer would make the back of the case flat, getting rid of the 'hump', a lot more people would buy it as many are being put off by that (see previous posts). But the battery is brilliant. I could go on a week holiday without taking any charger with me
I just have the phone next to me when I go to bed and attach it to charger.
It lasts the whole day with HSDPA and Bluetooth on (for carkit), and even some navigation will work. For car trips I have the car charger.
I never, but then NEVER had any battery-issues in my everyday use. I have a feeling everyone is just not needing the battery.
What is wrong with charging regularly overnight?
And yes, it looks damn ugly.
Oh，come on. you're advertising your ebay shop, right?
zoltar99 said:
It does fit XDA Ignito from O2, it won't fit the original Touch Diamond, the back fitting is different. So, order this one only if you have an Ignito, otherwise look for a Diamond back case.
My extended battery just died this afternoo after more than 6 days since being charged, and only because I used my phone to listen to internet radio for more than 2 hours (it was 29% this morning). The last mobile phone to last me that long was a Philips with a black and white screen that I had back in 2000 - about 6-7 days. And it didn't have internet, music, office mobile, touch screen or colour screen.
I believe that if the manufacturer would make the back of the case flat, getting rid of the 'hump', a lot more people would buy it as many are being put off by that (see previous posts). But the battery is brilliant. I could go on a week holiday without taking any charger with me
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It arrived this morning, doesn't have a "massive hump" and actually feels ok whilst in hand. (Even I was surprised) Just one quick question do you charge yours with the cradle or does your original Ignito charge it no problem?
Thanks
p.s I just got an cradle, usb charger and mains charger that fits the cradle... no instructions ?!?! ah well can't be rocket science can it
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Oh，come on. you're advertising your ebay shop, right?
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If you were referring to me , you are wrong mate! It's not my shop, I just happened to buy it and found it a good product and thought I could help by posting pictures of it and my experience. If you check my other posts on this forum, you will see I have also bought other products for my Ignito on ebay from other shops.
To ant611982:
I charge mine either using the phone (I got mine without the cradle) or a separate charger I bought on ebay that charges the phone and a spare battery, but doesn't have a cradle. It can charge both the phone and a spare battery at the same time without any problem.
Zoltar do you use a case with this extended battery on? I can't seem to find one to fit. ONLY downside.
Thanks
ant611982 said:
Zoltar do you use a case with this extended battery on? I can't seem to find one to fit. ONLY downside.
Thanks
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I'm afraid I have the same problem I was thinking of buying the invisible shield, but i couldn't find one cut specially for the Ignito.
Edit: I found the following cases that might fit. They are for the Touch Pro, but should fit a thicker Diamond as well. I still have to make up my mind which one to choose. There are others on ebay, but most of them in Hong Kong, and if you are prepared to wait about 2 weeks for delivery, fine.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belt-Leather-...14&_trkparms=72:1301|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
This one seems really good to me.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PDair-Black-L...14&_trkparms=72:1301|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
This one is from HK, but it is symilar to the original HTC case and it flexible on the sides.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/L1u-Leather-P...14&_trkparms=72:1301|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
This is also from HK but it is a lot cheaper than the others. Looks ok in the pictures, not sure about quality. Not leather though.
I got my battery a few days ago and had used it since then! It's working really great, it feels that my Diamond would run more than doubled as with the stock one and GPS is also working!
Now I love my new device much more!
I would rather have this battery over the official one for the extra battery life, but wouldn't be able to live with the cover that comes with it. Anybody know if it'll fit into the offical extended battery case (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=172103)?
I get about two extra hours with this battery than the oem, if you are a lighter user you can get even more.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Extende..._Accessories?hash=item33565de06f#ht_500wt_956
How long have you had it and no issues? Some of these third party batteries can be flafy and this seems awfull cheao.I am interested to hear your experience.
I've had it maybe 2 weeks now and I don' t take it out still waiting on my external charger from hong kong. It really works great and for 17 bucks if it lasts me 2 months I'll be happy but this particular seller has had no complaints about her batteries so I would give it a .
Yes I went to her listing and saw the high rating thx for the tip and you may want to go here.I bot a car charger cover and cable for $8http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Black-Silicone-Charger-Imagio/dp/B002S4T1OW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1257705205&sr=8-9
They had a package with all 3 items awhile ago.S/h was about $3 and i got in 8-9 days.Good seller you can see feedback I left.
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I get about two extra hours with this battery than the oem, if you are a lighter user you can get even more.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1600mAh-Extende..._Accessories?hash=item33565de06f#ht_500wt_956
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How many hours did you get with the stock 1500 mAh battery?
Good find.
I'm guessing this battery is compatible with the Imagio? I don't see it listed under compatability.
Definitely compatible, It is 8:30 in the am I charged it the night before last I have 32 percent battery left currently. Now yesterday was a lighter than normal phone usage day for me but I made calls and checked email all day. The oem battery lasts me from about 8 in the morning till about 7 in the evening which is my normal usage which I consider heavy. I email, call, text, and scan documents with it all day long. I would say the rhodium 1600mah battery would get me to about 9-930 before needing to put it on the charger or replacing the battery. With two batteries you can't go wrong. If you are dying in the afternoon to early evening don't expect this battery to last you till midnight because that's unrealistic. Stock this phone has several applications that access the internet and cell phone towers constantly so if you consider what it is done the battery life is quite good, especially compared to my fiance's droid.
randcool said:
Yes I went to her listing and saw the high rating thx for the tip and you may want to go here.I bot a car charger cover and cable for $8http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Black-Silicone-Charger-Imagio/dp/B002S4T1OW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1257705205&sr=8-9
They had a package with all 3 items awhile ago.S/h was about $3 and i got in 8-9 days.Good seller you can see feedback I left.
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This is what I use because I can charge my phone, mp3 player, bluetooth headset and my battery operated lighter (don't ask was a gift) and never have to pull it in and out of the socket. You can plug a unpowered usb hub and charge several at once. And then you always have your data cable on you.
DISCLAIMER I am not responsible for anything that happens to your vehicle or devices. Use this information at your own risk!
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Definitely compatible..
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Thanks, good to know.
Just ordered one.
I for some reason only go for original battery and this one is original extended battery with extended cover for imagio.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=194
Ordered one from ebay 16 days ago. U$20 delivered for a charger (charges battery + USB output) and 2(!) batteries. Came in today. Seem to be legit, batteries fit fine, come in about 40% charge in em. Charging both at the moment, will post later as to the longevity etc.
Search ebay for title (the quoted part of it), $20 delivered.
No idea how this chinese quality is, but it´s cheap
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1st battery charged in N1, seems to be fine after 3 hrs of occasional use, still 100% charge. The other one charged in the charger that came with it, will test it tomorrow. Charger gives indication when the charge is complete. I guess we got ourselves a winner here
Good to hear. I ordered the same bundle a week or so ago and I'm waiting for it. Things from HK do seem to take a while to get to the US - guess that's the price you pay.
I got this same deal!
It's a crazy bargain! I love have (3) batteries on me when traveling. In a hotel room it's wonderful to find a spare remote outlet and charge up the depleted batteries. No down time.
I received my batteries and charger from China very quickly.
thanks i'll look into this
EDIT: Which seller did you guys buy from?
Just trying to help,
This one,
http://yit.me/46vpzp
Wow. That's quite a deal! I don't really think I need it but I'm sorely tempted to order a set anyway just in case.
This deal hooked me.
This is a NO BRAINER!
You get the 2800 mAh worth of power for 1/3 the price. Plus you get the external charger.
The only "negative" to me is that I have to shut down the phone to swap batteries... but the N1 reboots so fast... not really a negative.
The big "positive" is that I get the additional power in reserve... without getting a big ugly battery and new battery door that alters the slick look of my phone.
I don't have an scientific evidence yet.... but these new batteries seem to actually run longer than my stock battery.
I got this. Its a phenominal deal. The batteries are top notch, and I'm almost inclined to think one of them actually works better than the stock battery, but that could just be my imagination. Hard to test.
The charger is great too.
I ordered the same set on the 18th and I still dont have mine! Glad you all are happy with yours! I am going to file a dispute tomorrow, 3 weeks is too long!
webgrafix said:
This is a NO BRAINER!
You get the 2800 mAh worth of power for 1/3 the price. Plus you get the external charger.
The only "negative" to me is that I have to shut down the phone to swap batteries... but the N1 reboots so fast... not really a negative.
The big "positive" is that I get the additional power in reserve... without getting a big ugly battery and new battery door that alters the slick look of my phone.
I don't have an scientific evidence yet.... but these new batteries seem to actually run longer than my stock battery.
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2800 mAh is double the OEM battery, so of course they run longer then the stock battery
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2800 mAh is double the OEM battery, so of course they run longer then the stock battery
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Uhhmmm....he is saying that 2 batteries at 1400 = one batter at 2800. They are talking about 2 batteries and a charger for 20$.
This is a great deal! Maybe too good to be true?? Please keep us updated on how these batteries perform throughout the year.
Any issue with charge times? It is only rated plugged in at output 4.2V 350mA, this seems a little low to me.
I do see it is rated higher for the USB output connection, is this to the battery or just to the USB port, of 5.2V 800mA?
Thanks
Don't file a dispute... that is pointless.
E-mail them and ask for it to be sent again however if they say no then you can dispute it BUT standard postage can take FOREVER.
I have ordered CDs from America (where most of you guys are) and sometimes they have come in 5 days and sometimes it has been a month.
Unfortunately your US mail is incredibly unreliable and then when you add into that the fact it is coming from Hong Kong so has to go through so many mail systems you should just relax and be patient!
I ordered the same package yesterday and also the 8-in-1 HD2 package with 3 screen protector, 3 cases, MUSB to cig lighter charger and an extra MUSB cable which I can use those 2 both with my HD2 and N1 as I already have cases for the N1 and screen protectors.
Folx,
I have used both batteries, charged via both N1 and the charger that came part of the deal. Used the charger to charge N1's original battery. No issues encountered. Having total of 3 batteries must be a godsend for frequent travelers and alike.
I never hesitate when ordering items from China/HK. Takes anywhere from 1.5 to 3 weeks, never had anything lost.
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I ordered the same set on the 18th and I still dont have mine! Glad you all are happy with yours! I am going to file a dispute tomorrow, 3 weeks is too long!
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I ordered on the 18th too...Glad to see I'm not the only one still waiting. I'm even more glad to hear that the quality seems OK so far.
Hopefully it will be waiting for me when I get home tonight!
I spent less than $30 over at Amazon and got two 1900mAh batteries and a charger for them. The batteries say that they are for the Sensation but work perfectly for the MT4GS. I take lots of photos with my phone(30-40 daily),, send a 150 or more messages a day, surf, compose emails and have about an hour of total talk time per day. 2 Anker batteries takes me through the day without needing an outlet.
I can fully recommend these for our phone. I am in no way affiliated with Anker and did not know the name before I purchased the product.
UPDATE: These batteries are NOT A WIN! After a month and a half of intense usage, I am finding (with two separate batteries) that these may not get enough power to our phones and results in an error for the camera flash when no real error exists (except with the manufacture of this battery perhaps).
I am checking out new batteries. Will report back asap. I am recommending folks avoid Anker for now though. I'm still investigating this situation.
FYI: The exact error is "unable to use flash due to cold weather".
UPDATE: After a few days of trying to reproduce the flash error, I've had zero problems and lots of fun with my phone so I think we can chalk it up at most to a defective battery and not a systemic issue. I've been using the battery since with no problems. Enjoy your phones!
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http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1900mAh..._23?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1313683743&sr=1-23
That's the link to the one I just ordered, it shipped yesterday, should be here in another two days. I'll definitely review after I get it.
Anker batteries in the 1900 capacity have been recommended by several here so far, and I haven't heard anything negative about them except for:
One user reports that the fit is almost too snug in the battery case. Any words on this?
Other then that - they sound like a solid win, enough so that I bought one too.
I actually purchased the set that comes with two batteries as I bought my MT4GS on Craigslist and couldn't verify the integrity of the battery it came with. The batteries for the Sensation DO fit snug but it doesn't cause any problems. I spent 30 minutes looking at that aspect. Putting them in, taking them out.... The batteries last a good while (1900mAh) and the charger seems to work well after the initial charges which are a bit longer than normal (but not much longer).
One thing to look out for is that the charging prongs on the charger have a design I have not seen before. Since it is a universal charger from Anker they slide along a rail as so that they can be used to charge various HTC batteries which may have the charging port at various different points along the top of the battery. So like the G2 or the HD2 battery could be charged in the charger as well (I've done it) because you can move the charging prongs from left to right along this rail that they slide on. So you have to make sure that you have them lined up for the + and - port on the MT4GS battery so that you're getting a proper charge and not just sitting there wasting your time.
It's a small thing and not a problem. In fact, it might be a bonus for those who have other HTC devices that it can also charge.
Congrats on your purchase. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Chinese 3 battery combo with charger
I have been buying the spare batteries from Hong Kong/China with the slow ass battery charger for my past few devices. They are 10.95 delivered. The MT4GS and the Sensation are IDENTICAL. I spent 1 dollar more for the MT4GS and everything was exactly the same and there was no reference to MT4GS on either of the packages that arrived at the same time.
I can't complain. I always have my laptop bag with all of my techno gear spare 2A DC and AC chargers.
I can't not be connected?
Blue6IX said:
Anker batteries in the 1900 capacity have been recommended by several here so far, and I haven't heard anything negative about them except for:
One user reports that the fit is almost too snug in the battery case. Any words on this?
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It's definitely a tight fit, but it's not too bad -- it's not hard to pull out when you want to change the SIM or microSD card, for instance. It is tight enough that it doesn't fall out by itself very readily, though -- a couple days ago when I was experimenting with the carrier unlock and swapping SIM cards, I forgot to put the back of the phone* back on when I was done, and I carried the phone around for several hours without having the battery fall out or come loose. I even dropped the phone about 2.5 feet from my desk surface onto the non-carpeted floor and the battery didn't pop out.
So the fit is definitely snug -- much snugger than I'm used to in a phone battery, in fact -- and you have to press down to get the top to slide into place properly, but in my opinion it's a good thing, not a bad thing.
*That is, the "battery" cover, although it covers a lot more than just the battery, unlock my G2's battery cover, which I wish they had made the mT4GS's battery cover more like, but now I'm a bit off topic...
Good to know.
Mine came in today, and i'm watching the charge light turn purplish now as it goes from red to blue, so it should be real soon that it's done charging for the first time.
I think i'm going to restore my first solid CWM backup after rooting on my old battery, then wipe the battery stats file, power down, swap batteries, and power up to run it down. Hopefully this will get me a good calibration right off the bat.
I can't wait to start using it - this holding off until it's charged all the way the first time is killing me lol.
I'll report back in a few days how it works after the first 4-5 discharge cycles the package says it'll take to get my full capacity out of it.
Do you have to use the charger that comes with the battery to charge the battery or can you charge it as normal inside the phone? I would like to get a longer lasting battery but I certainly do not want to have to remove it from my phone every time I want to charge it.
No, it charges just fine inside the phone. The external charger is just in case you need to charge it outside the phone for some reason, like if you have two batteries and you want to charge both up for a long trip or something.
Awesome! Just picked up two MT4G Slides the other day and already I can see the battery life is going to be a potential issue. Coming from a Bold 9700 I knew I was going to run through the battery much faster, but I wasn't quite expecting this fast.
Okay, after my second day with the Anker 1900 battery, I am extremely impressed.
It's like a night and day difference. Honestly, my biggest concern was the heat issue. I noticed that my stock battery got pretty warm, and while not enough to burn me, was enough to impact the lifespan of the device and battery.
I had a theory that spreading the same amount of load over a greater range of discharge would produce less heat, and that has proven out to be true. Maybe the Anker battery is just made better, but more likely my theory was correct.
The Anker battery doesn't get anywhere near as warm with general use of the device as the stock battery did. Solid win there.
The amount of time I get with the battery before having to charge is already significantly increased, and I haven't fully broken it in yet. I'm no longer having to plan out where my next charge location is going to be and trying to ration my device usage to make sure I get to it. Now I can just go about my business without worrying about running out of juice.
Bonus points because now my stock battery is available as a backup, just in case - making the win that much sweeter.
Thanks to everyone who suggested this battery, it was definitely a great buy, and the price is unbeatable.
u think I can buy sume of those battery from amazon.com? I'm Italian, but I can't find shipping restriction section...
Good find. I might pick up one of these. Would really have liked the charger to be USB powered, though (or at least have a long cord) so I could set this on my desk next to my phone.
Evo 3d Battery
Has anyone tried the Evo 3d battery? It's rated at 1730mah and reportedly works just fine in the sensation.
ylam310 said:
Has anyone tried the Evo 3d battery? It's rated at 1730mah and reportedly works just fine in the sensation.
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I don't know if you'll find much traction for this - the anker battery has a higher capacity rating and lots of endorsement from people (myself included) who think it is a superior replacement for the stock battery.
I'd be curious, just to know, but I would recommend the anker 1900 battery for the sensation above anything else.
I wonder why you would want to know this?
Contacted Laptopmate (US Distributor of Anker) via Amazon's customer service. Turns out they have an Ebay store and an Amazon store.
Ebay store is MUCH cheaper. Found batteries and a charger for $15 less.
One thing this company does on both sites is "overlist" they will have the same product for $8.99, and $9.99 for example. I found the first eBay mt4gs battery was 11% off and listed at $14.99 with charger, I kept exploring and found it later for $11.99 - same item.
You also need to watch they have some other non-Anker batteries with varying capacity sizes that might be a bit less. YMMV.
Now just sitting back and waiting for them to arrive.
Will be picking this up for me and my friend (who has the sensation). Good find!
Just ordered two today! Can't wait...as I take lots of pictures and videos so it'll be refreshing to have fully charged batteries ready to go, on the gooooooo.....
Just so people know, it is a little bit bigger. I have a problem squeezing my body glove case on (but it does go on, barely). I'm just waiting for another case with more clearance so it fits.
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That bad? Jeez...
I need a case, otherwise this phone will be abused too much. It is an expensive piece of equipment.
On a side note, I've been trying my damned hardest to drain this thing for 6 hours, and I'm only at 50%. Highest brightness game playing and browsing, and 4G has been on the whole time. Plus, I took enough pictures of my gf to get her irritated.
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UPDATE:
Got it Wednesday and charged it up full. My plan is to charge cycle it 3 times but being thats it's 10,000mah, its gonna take some time.
Its solid and well made considering China as the country of origin. It will recharge my skyrocket dead-to-full about 4.5 times. Its about the same size LxW as my skyrocket but about twice as thick. Its about 3 times as heavy I guess. 2 usb ports (one made for i-devices and one for samsung devices though my rocket charges off either). I can even power a usb fan off of it. Also has a dc out that will output 9v or 12v.
Only gripe is that it wont charge my thrive 10 which is more of a gripe with my thrive than the anker. The anker outputs 12vdc but the trhive requires 19vdc if Im reading the charger right. I tried several different way and the thrive never recognized it as a power supply.
Overall, Im very pleased with it for 50 bucks
Just bought this bad boy...got pretty good reviews and $60 for 10000mah (really only about 7500-8000 usable mah) I dont think I'll go wrong but just wondering if anyone else had experience with these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NGKR54/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
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I bought this one in January http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XQSN9G/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
Same thing just a different name on it, haven't had any problems with it. I use it mostly while I'm out geocaching and or camping, I have not actually run the pack dry yet so don't know the extent of how many times I can fully charge the Skyrocket but I've done 3 charges and still had 1 dot left on the battery pack.. so probably at least 4 times.
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I bought this one in January http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XQSN9G/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
Same thing just a different name on it, haven't had any problems with it. I use it mostly while I'm out geocaching and or camping, I have not actually run the pack dry yet so don't know the extent of how many times I can fully charge the Skyrocket but I've done 3 charges and still had 1 dot left on the battery pack.. so probably at least 4 times.
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Yeah, they look the exact same. Good to know no problems. I plan on bringing mine to Africa when I go in September and for camping trips.