Is there any way to improve camera? I had XT720 before a half year, picture quality was a horrible. Now with the custom ROM, brings step to improve quality?
Can someone post pictures from camera?
Thank you
carreaum said:
Is there any way to improve camera? I had XT720 before a half year, picture quality was a horrible. Now with the custom ROM, brings step to improve quality?
Can someone post pictures from camera?
Thank you
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I guess there have been no major changes to the camera. Actually the stock 2.1 camera is better than on any of the custom ROMS. Camera picture quality depends on the amount of light and the correct settings. I wouldn't describe it as horrible but you sure need to tweak everything to get a good picture.
I've attached some pictures I took recently. The first is using the macro setting. I was fixing my friends les pauls toggle switch and changing the pickups. A few flower and weird pod pictures. And the last one is of my place and the lawn outside. Maybe you guys can comment on the quality.
EDIT: Im on WanHU's rom stock with these photo's.
As per my experience, the phone is great with macro mode shots but when it comes to landscape photography it doesn't provide quality snaps. They are average just like the ones taken with my old Nokia N85 ( 5MP camera)
Here are few samples taken with XT720.
I find the camera performs pretty well here... On ESB (2.1) right now.
I'm going to chime in here and say I get great pictures with this phone - though there is a slight delay - so shooting my son on the run is hard (he's gone when it snaps!). Though I don't always shoot on automatic, and I hold the button to allow it to focus. I do get a lot of red-eye, but software can fix that (though, the software makes my son's eyes black, and they are blue )
I came to ask about the recording aspect and am hi-jacking this newer thread - what about that? I'm now running RusMod 1.9 with the US/Eng patch and am still getting the noise/lines in the recording. Here is an example of a bad one;
Can't post links yet.. check Henzod on Youtube
But I don't always get it...
Can't post links yet.. check Henzod on Youtube - Poncho video
(Don't laugh, it was just a test video lol)
Is there an alternate Camera.apk to install or something else to fix to get this working again?
ImaLamer said:
I'm going to chime in here and say I get great pictures with this phone - though there is a slight delay - so shooting my son on the run is hard (he's gone when it snaps!). Though I don't always shoot on automatic, and I hold the button to allow it to focus. I do get a lot of red-eye, but software can fix that (though, the software makes my son's eyes black, and they are blue )
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I get shutter lag also, but only really on the first shot when loading up the camera. Once the camera is loaded up properly, snapping pictures is actually surprisingly fast for me.
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I get shutter lag also, but only really on the first shot when loading up the camera. Once the camera is loaded up properly, snapping pictures is actually surprisingly fast for me.
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I did some research on that. It isnt the camera loading up but the xenon flash charging. If you take pictures in conditions where flash is not required it happens instantly. Apparently the xenon gas has to be at a specific charge for the flash to work
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I did some research on that. It isnt the camera loading up but the xenon flash charging. If you take pictures in conditions where flash is not required it happens instantly. Apparently the xenon gas has to be at a specific charge for the flash to work
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Well, whatever the case, it's nice once it's charged.
Well, I find the camera useless for taking photos of my daughter because of the lag and that's all I really cared about camera-wise, so I'm not too pleased with the camera performance. It's too slow to capture spontaneous things.
Mioze7Ae said:
Well, I find the camera useless for taking photos of my daughter because of the lag and that's all I really cared about camera-wise, so I'm not too pleased with the camera performance. It's too slow to capture spontaneous things.
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Takes me 3-5 seconds to snap a pic from another app on ESB generally...
No, what I mean is you press the shutter and the phone contemplates its navel for a few seconds and she's moved already. So you're cajoling her to smile at the camera and she finally does and you hit the trigger and watch as she moves out of frame/closes her eyes whatever before the photo gets taken.
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No, what I mean is you press the shutter and the phone contemplates its navel for a few seconds and she's moved already. So you're cajoling her to smile at the camera and she finally does and you hit the trigger and watch as she moves out of frame/closes her eyes whatever before the photo gets taken.
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To an extent I find that's true of most low/mid point & shoot cameras. For quick camera response nothing beats the dSLR with a fast lens but that's not always available.
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No, what I mean is you press the shutter and the phone contemplates its navel for a few seconds and she's moved already. So you're cajoling her to smile at the camera and she finally does and you hit the trigger and watch as she moves out of frame/closes her eyes whatever before the photo gets taken.
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Yeah, that does happen sometimes. Once the xenon flash is warmed up, that doesn't usually happen.
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To an extent I find that's true of most low/mid point & shoot cameras. For quick camera response nothing beats the dSLR with a fast lens but that's not always available.
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This doesn't happen on the Moto Defy either (can tell you out of experience) and that is mid-end phone.
I'm with Mz on this one i bought that @#$ing Moto for the cam and i am alwase missing those fast ones
I tried everything to get the cam faster, i made a litle progress.
Precharging the Xenon is really bad on the batterry so can't do that
#@$%ed we are....
To be fair, the xt720 is a phone first and camera second.
But I do agree, the shutter speed is sloooww
karlxx said:
To be fair, the xt720 is a phone first and camera second.
But I do agree, the shutter speed is sloooww
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Okay, but it's got a promised 8 MP camera, which actually takes great shots if the subject is still life and a lot of the slowdown is not the xenon flash (though, as noted above, some is, understandably - though xenon was a selling point...) but the software itself. This has been demonstrated over and over with the updates we get to the ROMs - some are better at photos and video, some are worse.
Still - why do my videos look so horrible while there are demo videos on YouTube that look amazing?
I was reading a review the other day and I saw the reviewer mention that getting a better SD card can improve HD video recording (which has often lagged). I saw a comment by Motorola on a youtube video saying the same thing.
I'm sure this has come up before, but I can't remember the conclusion. Does a better SD card provide improvements?
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I was reading a review the other day and I saw the reviewer mention that getting a better SD card can improve HD video recording (which has often lagged). I saw a comment by Motorola on a youtube video saying the same thing.
I'm sure this has come up before, but I can't remember the conclusion. Does a better SD card provide improvements?
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Yep. A better SD card obviously has a higher Class (like yourself). And as we all know the higher the Class the faster it reads/writes to the card. The faster the r/w the better the quality of fps and output. I have a 32gb Class 10 card and 16gb Class 6 card and to tell you the truth, I really don't see too much of a difference as far as Pix go. Video on the other hand is a whole different ball of wax. I get way better video on the C10. Don't forget the SDcards they come with are garbage, Class 2's. Take a C2 and compare with a C4 or C6 and it is apples to oranges.
I'll try out my class 4 (but only 4gb) SD card soon. If I do notice better camcorder quality maybe I'll have to consider spending a few bucks for a better SD card... Though I don't know about a 32gb class 10. I looked at the prices for something like that in my nearby electronics chain and they charge about $150 for that lol. I might as well save that money for a new phone.
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I was just wondering if there were any hacks that can be done to the camera. Like speed and quality. The camera doesnt seem like it put out '5mp' quality images.
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I was just wondering if there were any hacks that can be done to the camera. Like speed and quality. The camera doesnt seem like it put out '5mp' quality images.
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You can change the quality via settings...
what hes asking is if you can change the shutter speed, not the image quality settings.
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I was just wondering if there were any hacks that can be done to the camera. Like speed and quality. The camera doesnt seem like it put out '5mp' quality images.
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try to understand that its not a camera but a phone, the camera is a 5mp sensor but the quality of the sensor and the rest of the optics are not going to be on par with a 5mp point n shoot dedicated camera. software tweaks will only do so much given what they have to work with. you can get pleasing snap shots in good lighting conditions when you're without a proper camera.
some phones will focus(no pun intended) on the camera feature(of the PHONE) and you will get better images. for example my nokia n95 takes much better photos than my hero, and the new experia x10 supposedly has a really good camera(for a PHONE) although i haven't used it first hand im told it can almost replace your point n shoot cam.
so in short you should lower your expectations a notch or two.
Like the above poster said, I mean you've got plastic optics and a fixed focal point--you aren't going to be taking awesome pictures.
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Like the above poster said, I mean you've got plastic optics and a fixed focal point--you aren't going to be taking awesome pictures.
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Wait..what? I have been waiting for HTC to release a 70mm-300mm zoom lens with image stabilization for the Hero.. Are you saying that I will have to wait forever?
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Wait..what? I have been waiting for HTC to release a 70mm-300mm zoom lens with image stabilization for the Hero.. Are you saying that I will have to wait forever?
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its coming with the 2.1 update.
I only wish the shutter speed was a little faster, but this goes for ALL phone cams. You can never get a steady picture if you have shaky hands or are trying to snap a shot of a 2 year old.
bring the came close to your body and slowly exhale when taking your photo. try stabilize yourself better. the shutter speed is pretty slow cause the sensor is not all that sensitive so more light exposure is needed.
as for getting kids to stay still, good luck.
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I only wish the shutter speed was a little faster, but this goes for ALL phone cams. You can never get a steady picture if you have shaky hands or are trying to snap a shot of a 2 year old.
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Try ISO 400 or 800, you'll get more image noise but you should get better results with fast moving targets....3 and 6 year old, here
Fixed Focal length
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Like the above poster said, I mean you've got plastic optics and a fixed focal point--you aren't going to be taking awesome pictures.
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Wouldn't the fact that it has autofocus infer that it is not a fixed focal length? There is a mechanical autofocus lens in the camera. Still not as good as any real camera, but it is the best phone camera I have ever had.
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hahaha, I wasnt looking for photography quality. 'but I see now what your saying about its a sensor and what it has to work with isnt great. Thats all I wanted to hear. I know its not guru style ish, just a camera phone. Just looking to see if there was anything you could do to it, but guess not. Thanks.
Is anyone having issues with the camera? When I pinch to zoom in, I find the camera not properly focusing. This seems to occur no matter if it on single shot, hdr, etc. Its not ALL photos, just moist of them. Used to have thunderbolt and did not experience this type of issue there. The reviews praised the s3 camera, so i am disappointed. Anyone have any advice? Thanks
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Unfortunately I also am experiencing this same problem. I dont have a real solution but to use an alternative camera application, and hope it helps.
Try a diff gallery. I found sometimes the gallery will not focus in. Although sometimes I have found myself dissapointed in the camera. There are 2 different cameras in the s3 one is app lower quality.
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You're not alone! The camera is almost always blurry for me, and sadly, bad enough for me to say this camera SUCKS. I really hope this is a firmware issue.
I've looked at the pictures on my computer as well, and they're just not nearly focused.
+1 on all of it for me
So let me get this straight:
While you're in camera mode, about to take a picture, and you pinch to zoom-in, the photo gets blurry?
Or are you talking about in the gallery when you pinch-to-zoom on a picture you've already taken?
If it's the former, I believe it's one of two things: 1) firmware issue, or 2) hardware issue. If it is indeed a hardware issue, you can probably get a replacement free of charge from Verizon.
If it's the latter, I think you just have to wait a few seconds for the phone to show you the high-res version instead of the low-quality blurry snapshot.
My sister has the same issue on her Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming that's not the case, since the blurriness usually goes away in a matter of seconds?
I've found the camera pretty crummy in anything but full-light settings. It's really frustrating.
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I've found the camera pretty crummy in anything but full-light settings..
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That statement pretty much applies to any camera/phone.
One thing you guys might want to try is using the app "CameraFX"
CameraFX has a pretty cool feature that allows you to take a pic by voice activation. I find the camera phones are much harder to hold steady and take a clear shot than a real DC (& I'm a pro photographer). Using the voice activation allows you to hold the camera super steady & then just say a word like now or smile etc when you're ready to take the shot.
I have my camera set to take a shot with the volume button, but the voice activation is still easier to use IMHO.
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That statement pretty much applies to any camera/phone.
One thing you guys might want to try is using the app "CameraFX"
CameraFX has a pretty cool feature that allows you to take a pic by voice activation. I find the camera phones are much harder to hold steady and take a clear shot than a real DC (& I'm a pro photographer). Using the voice activation allows you to hold the camera super steady & then just say a word like now or smile etc when you're ready to take the shot.
I have my camera set to take a shot with the volume button, but the voice activation is still easier to use IMHO.
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This camera doesn't focus properly. Period. I'll do side-by-side shots with my Rezound and iPhone. The GS3 camera is woeful in anything but full, natural light.
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This camera doesn't focus properly. Period. I'll do side-by-side shots with my Rezound and iPhone. The GS3 camera is woeful in anything but full, natural light.
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I agree that the Rezound camera is better, I have three Rezounds & the camera is super (for a phone camera).
I really have not had any focusing issues with the G3 although I don't use it a whole lot because I usually have access to a real DC.
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My sister has the same issue on her Galaxy Nexus.
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That's another issue entirely, the Nexus is notorious for having an atrociously bad camera.
+1, I have noticed that a lot of my pics are coming out blurry, I thought it was maybe because the camera was sensative to the slightest twitch and that I was maybe moving it mid shot.
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+1, I have noticed that a lot of my pics are coming out blurry, I thought it was maybe because the camera was sensative to the slightest twitch and that I was maybe moving it mid shot.
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I think it is to some extent, turn on anti-shake, but that doesn't totally fix it. It's pretty frustrating that this phone seems like a step backwards in terms of camera.
skrypj said:
+1, I have noticed that a lot of my pics are coming out blurry, I thought it was maybe because the camera was sensative to the slightest twitch and that I was maybe moving it mid shot.
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That is why I posted what I did about CameraFX.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59294739/miui.camera.apk
This miui camera works pretty well just install the apk no changes to permission needed. It does not use the ffc so use stock app for that.
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That's another issue entirely, the Nexus is notorious for having an atrociously bad camera.
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I'm not talking about the camera quality, itself. I mean in the gallery, when you're looking through pictures you've already taken, the pictures are a bit blurry at first, but then clear up into the original (higher) resolution.
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@OP: Are you sure the camera is focused?
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I'm not talking about the camera quality, itself. I mean in the gallery, when you're looking through pictures you've already taken, the pictures are a bit blurry at first, but then clear up into the original (higher) resolution.
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Gotcha, you definitely have to wait a few seconds or all the images look awful.......
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I took some pictures today in my home office (have a floor lamp...decent lighting but not super bright) with both the GS3 and the Fascinate (GS1). The GS1 pictures are better. This is VERY disappointing
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So let me get this straight:
While you're in camera mode, about to take a picture, and you pinch to zoom-in, the photo gets blurry?
Or are you talking about in the gallery when you pinch-to-zoom on a picture you've already taken?
If it's the former, I believe it's one of two things: 1) firmware issue, or 2) hardware issue. If it is indeed a hardware issue, you can probably get a replacement free of charge from Verizon.
If it's the latter, I think you just have to wait a few seconds for the phone to show you the high-res version instead of the low-quality blurry snapshot.
My sister has the same issue on her Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming that's not the case, since the blurriness usually goes away in a matter of seconds?
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It is the former. I tried camera 360 today and photos seemed ok. That app only alows 2x zoom. I was outdoors photographing dinosaurs in full sun. Perhaps i try another photo app, camera fx or something like that and see how it goes. Thank you for the reply. As I see I'm not the only one with this issue, I'm glad that we can discuss it and see what helps for us.
Camera Zoom FX as mentioned is a good alternative, for me I think the instant shutter makes it more blurry because you don't have any time to steady the camera after pressing the button. Camera Zoom has a slight lag. I would also try ProCapture, which I think does a better job than Camera Zoom but YMMV.
Camera sucks.. Period.. Pictures are horrible for an 8mp camera..
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So, after much internal debate, I went back to Gingerbread for the old camera and stability.
My goodness I forgot how good we had it! With all the "auto" stuff and "widescreen" ticked off, this camera takes a ridiculously good picture. I tested it out at this particularly dark room on the house, and the picture turned out perfect. I forgot how great our camera was.
To anyone on ICS, do you ever miss the old camera?
Its nice to have a good camera app BUT being on ICS or JB is way better than a camera
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strapped365 said:
Its nice to have a good camera app BUT being on ICS or JB is way better than a camera
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Isn't that what makes nandroids and having S-Off SO wonderful?
I hear this a lot but I have to say something. It's the same physical camera so this is a software issue. Try this on ICS: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id= com.moblynx.cameraicsplus or this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom Both have way more options than CM9 and take just as nice pics as the GB Sense camera app if tweaked properly. Good luck!
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom Both have way more options than CM9 and take just as nice pics as the GB Sense camera app if tweaked properly. Good luck!
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Camera Zoom FX is awesome! I think its worth the price for what it can do. I just got it and have been messing with it here and there at work lol. Thanks for the recommendation of it.
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manimmal said:
Camera Zoom FX is awesome! I think its worth the price for what it can do. I just got it and have been messing with it here and there at work lol. Thanks for the recommendation of it.
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Hey, no problem! It's an oldie but goodie I'd recommend using Macro for the focus setting. Seems to work more like stock auto focus that way for some strange reason. Otherwise, everything else is pretty self explanatory. Lots of filters and editors to play with! Enjoy!
So didn't want to start a new thread, and this was the first camera one I found going backwards through general.
The camera on the doubleshot spanks the pants off the camera on the S3. No contest, and if it was, the S3 forgot to show up.
That is all.
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So didn't want to start a new thread, and this was the first camera one I found going backwards through general.
The camera on the doubleshot spanks the pants off the camera on the S3. No contest, and if it was, the S3 forgot to show up.
That is all.
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I have to agree. I've taken comparison pics (done at the same time of the same subject) with my MT4GS on stock-based ROM (Miktouch) and CM9.1r5 (thank you nandroid backup!), an iPhone 4S, and a Droid RAZR. Loading the photos on a computer and viewing on a high-res monitor it is obvious that the MT4GS on the stock ROM is superior in every way. Why T-Mobile/HTC didn't market this phone better, I don't know.
+1, I recently took some outdoor night shots of a light show, and my camera bested the S3, which couldn't get a shot. But the flash is much brighter on the S3
I did compare the doubleshot's camera on stock ROM and my Xperia Pro device which was at the same generation with doubleshot and photo's on Xperia Pro are way too good compare to doubleshot. I'll try to upload a comparison between the 2 on this thread maybe tomorrow or after halloween vacation.
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I did compare the doubleshot's camera on stock ROM and my Xperia Pro device which was at the same generation with doubleshot and photo's on Xperia Pro are way too good compare to doubleshot. I'll try to upload a comparison between the 2 on this thread maybe tomorrow or after halloween vacation.
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MAN! I'll be anxious to see those. It's hard to believe there is a phone camera that will take a shot that our DS can't even compare too!! In MOST circumstances the DS will blow away my point & shoot although I will admit it's not a fancy point & shoot.
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MAN! I'll be anxious to see those. It's hard to believe there is a phone camera that will take a shot that our DS can't even compare too!! In MOST circumstances the DS will blow away my point & shoot although I will admit it's not a fancy point & shoot.
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My "point & shoot" is a Panasonic Lumix, which takes excellent photos. The only advantage it has over my MT4GS is the lens. Having a better optical zoom and aperture makes a difference. Otherwise, they are both 8MP sensors, however the MT4GS has a newer and much more advanced back side illuminated sensor, which is why it is so crisp and takes better low-light images.
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My "point & shoot" is a Panasonic Lumix, which takes excellent photos. The only advantage it has over my MT4GS is the lens. Having a better optical zoom and aperture makes a difference. Otherwise, they are both 8MP sensors, however the MT4GS has a newer and much more advanced back side illuminated sensor, which is why it is so crisp and takes better low-light images.
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If you are talking about a full size standalone point and shoot camera, (about the same size as the doubleshot physically) then 8MP is not the same 8MP the doubleshot claims.
The ccd in the standalone camera is way larger and more capable, though tit-for-tat the tech on an 8MP camera is dated compared to what was current a year ago when the doubleshot came out. Think they were at 12-14 megapixel as the standard offering back then. No clue what it even is now.
The low light picture ability of the doubleshot is in my opinion the most 'wow'
aspect of it's entire camera ability. Forget it all else, i've never seen low light pictures taken as well with any hardware i've had the chance to play with.
I'm sure I could get a DSLR that would blow away the doubleshot - and i'm equally sure it won't fit in my pocket and in turn rarely be with me.
I am a man of many pockets, a typical comment to me would be 'jeez, you have enough pockets?' ... and my answer is always no, because there is always something I had to leave behind.
I would never give pocket space for a standalone point and shoot when I could take the DS instead and also be able to turn the pictures into a photo montage, edit them in other ways, zip them all up, throw them in my dropbox and have them backed up to a multitude of physical machines scattered around the USA, then email them to someone...et all, the point and shoot dies on the drawing board when put against that.
Camera is now a primary use of the device for me, and i'm just blown away by how well HTC got it right.
I'd also be interested in seeing some of those pics from the xperia pro, is that a camera or a phone? Doubtless there are devices out there that will outdo the doubleshot, especially at a year old, but i'd be curious to know which.
One thing that gives a leg up on a lot out there, optical zoom. S3 has none, so that in itself is a huge asset in favor of the doubleshot.
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+1, I recently took some outdoor night shots of a light show, and my camera bested the S3, which couldn't get a shot. But the flash is much brighter on the S3
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Again on the low level shots, definite agreement here.
Our flash is limited in power and when you can use it in the kernel at least, not sure of any other limiters (within the camera app itself, et al ) but they may yet be there. Anyone else got any info on it they want to drop here? I'll see if I can dredge up everywhere I found camera stuff in kernel code.
This seems a good place to drop misc. camera tidbits as I come to them, good title and start.
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If you are talking about a full size standalone point and shoot camera, (about the same size as the doubleshot physically) then 8MP is not the same 8MP the doubleshot claims.
The ccd in the standalone camera is way larger and more capable, though tit-for-tat the tech on an 8MP camera is dated compared to what was current a year ago when the doubleshot came out. Think they were at 12-14 megapixel as the standard offering back then. No clue what it even is now.
The low light picture ability of the doubleshot is in my opinion the most 'wow'
aspect of it's entire camera ability. Forget it all else, i've never seen low light pictures taken as well with any hardware i've had the chance to play with.
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The size of the sensor is indeed a big part of the picture (pun intended). However, the sensor in our phone is a 8MP 1/3.2" with 1.4µm backside illumination. That bests nearly every other phone on the market and some cheap point & shoot cameras. Of course, the sensor in a DSLR is far larger, so you get much more detail.
The low-light capability for our phone is due to the backside-illumination sensor (for background info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-illuminated_sensor). Ours was the first phone in the US to incorporate such a sensor, later to be followed by the iPhone 4S. The iPhone, of course, got huge media attention for the camera, but our phone which had the exact same sensor and came out much earlier and had far better software to run it, got little attention.
I've been lurking around here since the phone launched, and on XDA since my G2 days. This is the first time I've felt the need to chime in on a subject, and I suppose also because there haven't been any questions that I couldn't find the answer to myself. Anyway, mine's a launch DS, rev s-off and the whole nine. I remember reading some time ago that there were different camera hardware components on some of our phones (e.g. that one topic where any ICS rom would fail to connect to a particular user's DS camera, yet it would be fine with any GB rom.) so maybe that is of some significance to this whole topic.
Back to the point though, I was blown away when I first used the camera on the stock rom. I use this phone heavily for it's sick camera and the keyboard, which kept me on stock for a short bit and then bulletproof until May. That's when ICS was far enough along for me that I gave Virtuous Inquisition a shot since it retained the sense camera but removed most other sense components. I recall being slightly disappointed in a few minor changes/things at first by the sensation camera software, but having used the camera on CM9 and its derivatives I find that there really is no comparison in the quality that HTC brought to the table with theirs. You could get a comparable picture I'm sure, but the usability is night and day for me. As far as alternative apps, I've messed around with Camera Zoom FX pro a bit and I'd say it is almost as good as the stock ds and sensation offerings but not quite there. It does well for me when I decide to run CM or paranoid android on bootmanager.
Lastly, the HQ camera tweak that is floating around here somewhere is awesome. Average file size of a picture in the full 8mp went from around 2mb before and 5mb afterwards, with a definitely noticeable jump in quality. The max ISO also jumps to 1025 from 800, so more low light goodness. I've gotten some really nice shots with all the different versions I've been running over the past 15 months, but I was once again really impressed after first applying the tweak around June or so.
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Lastly, the HQ camera tweak that is floating around here somewhere is awesome. Average file size of a picture in the full 8mp went from around 2mb before and 5mb afterwards, with a definitely noticeable jump in quality. The max ISO also jumps to 1025 from 800, so more low light goodness. I've gotten some really nice shots with all the different versions I've been running over the past 15 months, but I was once again really impressed after first applying the tweak around June or so.
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I think I came accross this HQ camera tweak before but must have gotten side tracked and never tried it. Will it work with a stock based rom like MikTouch? Do you think you can point me to it if it does?
CDaccord said:
I've been lurking around here since the phone launched, and on XDA since my G2 days. This is the first time I've felt the need to chime in on a subject, and I suppose also because there haven't been any questions that I couldn't find the answer to myself. Anyway, mine's a launch DS, rev s-off and the whole nine. I remember reading some time ago that there were different camera hardware components on some of our phones (e.g. that one topic where any ICS rom would fail to connect to a particular user's DS camera, yet it would be fine with any GB rom.) so maybe that is of some significance to this whole topic.
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Early units of the Doubleshot have the Sony IMX105PQ, a 1/3.2” 8.13MP CMOS camera sensor. But the majority of our phones use the Samsung S5K3H2YX, a 1/3.2” 8MP CMOS camera sensor. That could be the discrepancy you describe.
I'd like to know more about this HQ patch you mention. Where is it, does it work with GB roms?
siani_8 said:
I think I came accross this HQ camera tweak before but must have gotten side tracked and never tried it. Will it work with a stock based rom like MikTouch? Do you think you can point me to it if it does?
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Fuzi0719 said:
Early units of the Doubleshot have the Sony IMX105PQ, a 1/3.2” 8.13MP CMOS camera sensor. But the majority of our phones use the Samsung S5K3H2YX, a 1/3.2” 8MP CMOS camera sensor. That could be the discrepancy you describe.
I'd like to know more about this HQ patch you mention. Where is it, does it work with GB roms?
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@fuzi I knew I had seen a topic about those details before. I have a launch model that most likely has the Sony sensor, and I've been thoroughly impressed by it during all this time. Can anyone with the Samsung sensor that was probably released on the later batches (in I think November and February maybe?) give any feedback on their images?
@siani & fuzi The original thread is here, just copy the latter half of the broken up link: /showthread.php?t=1533238
I couldn't find the thread where I originally got this link in, either on the themes & apps board or the dev board, but I might have missed the topic. I flashed the zip labeled for vinq in cwm, so i can't comment on how well other sense ICS roms work with it. I do not think it will work for GB roms. In that thread, there is a standard and an ultra flashable. I am about 90% positive I flashed the standard zip, I think the ultra package only improves upon the 1080p video performance over the standard package, which our ICS is sorely lacking the capability for anyhow.
If anyone is interested in pictures I can dig through my archives and put some examples up.
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@fuzi I knew I had seen a topic about those details before. I have a launch model that most likely has the Sony sensor, and I've been thoroughly impressed by it during all this time. Can anyone with the Samsung sensor that was probably released on the later batches (in I think November and February maybe?) give any feedback on their images?
@siani & fuzi The original thread is here, just copy the latter half of the broken up link: /showthread.php?t=1533238
I couldn't find the thread where I originally got this link in, either on the themes & apps board or the dev board, but I might have missed the topic. I flashed the zip labeled for vinq in cwm, so i can't comment on how well other sense ICS roms work with it. I do not think it will work for GB roms. In that thread, there is a standard and an ultra flashable. I am about 90% positive I flashed the standard zip, I think the ultra package only improves upon the 1080p video performance over the standard package, which our ICS is sorely lacking the capability for anyhow.
If anyone is interested in pictures I can dig through my archives and put some examples up.
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Thank you. I believe I have one with the Sony sensor, as well. I will look for the HQ package. The camera issue is one of the main things that keeps me coming back to Miktouch. Man, I wish HTC would just do the right thing and produce an ICS or JB for this phone.
EDIT: Ah, I see the HQ packages are only for Sense 3.6 or Sense4 ROMs. I've given up on those for now, just too many annoying quirks for my use.
Ok just came back from vacation will do a shootout later and Xperia Pro is a phone made by sony.
With regards to low light pictures it boasts it's own exmor R sensor which was made by sony specifically for low light capturing.
Here's a quick info of what it is.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/technology/technology/theme/exmor_r_01.html
And here's Xperia Pro
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_pro-3779.php
I'm just wondering, is it really good as some people say or is it just average? I didn't get a tracking number yet so I don't think I'll be able to test it myself for a while. Some shots you've taken recently would suffice, just to see the strengths of the camera.
The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
aznxk3vi17 said:
The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
aznxk3vi17 said:
The quality of the actual pictures are fine, but the real deal breaker is how slow it is. Even after achieving focus, there's always this 1-2 second delay after you hit the shutter button. It's terrible. It doesn't matter if the camera took the highest quality shots in RAW if it's too slow to capture anything you could consider a "moment."
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Which mode are you speaking of?
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
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That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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On mine, an HDR+ shot acquires focus and snaps the picture in about 1 second. Regular shots take maybe half a second or less.
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I would agree with this experience. The camera app itself loads fairy quickly too: 4 seconds from touching the camera icon to having the photo snapped and saved to storage.
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Which mode are you speaking of?
That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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I also like how it maintains focus based on facial recognition.
It's alright.
androidrockz said:
Which mode are you speaking of?
That's not bad, but not insanely fast. If pictures took only a second I wouldn't mind but if it is as bad as he says, then I might have to download Focal and see how that works.
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Just tried Focal and it couldn't take any pictures. Might need an update before it works.
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Just tried Focal and it couldn't take any pictures. Might need an update before it works.
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It's probably not compatible with Kit Kat yet. Are there reviewers having the same issues?
I actually think the camera is pretty good. About the same as a iPhone 5s. Definitely not great though. However, the app sucks. Right now I'm using Camera MX and it's better than the stock app. Mine is pretty fast BTW. Not a long time between shots.
KingSolomon said:
I actually think the camera is pretty good. About the same as a iPhone 5s. Definitely not great though. However, the app sucks. Right now I'm using Camera MX and it's better than the stock app. Mine is pretty fast BTW. Not a long time between shots.
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Does Camera MX take burst shots?
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Does Camera MX take burst shots?
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Nah, not that I can tell. But there are plenty of free camera apps that will probably perform better than the stock.
I think the camera is very good considering the overall top of the line phone specs vs price.
The OIS works amazing, try it, you can really shake the phone around and the image stays perfectly still - really what a small low mass smartphone needs! As even just tapping the screen to take a photo causes blurred photos.
I also like how it uses the flash to help you pre-focus, something my Desire Z never did, even with JB.
HDR+ is also pretty amazing, I can't fault it yet in my limited use, the photos come out much more vibrant, very impressive for the phone's small size!
Now what is bad is the shutter lag, between taking photos and when pressing the shutter, even if pre-focused... Come on Google, please fix that in your next update .
Other phones take photos a lot faster.
god camera is amazing well down google
i am in love with this phone its surpassed all the non ois equipped device like iphone5s, s4, even not 3 in low light
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digweed4me said:
god camera is amazing well down google
i am in love with this phone its surpassed all the non ois equipped device like iphone5s, s4, even not 3 in low light
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I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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I'm just wondering, is it really good as some people say or is it just average? I didn't get a tracking number yet so I don't think I'll be able to test it myself for a while. Some shots you've taken recently would suffice, just to see the strengths of the camera.
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Better than the wifes iPhone5 is my rating. It's better is daylight, better is low light, better at HDR, and the photosphere is a game changer.
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I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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Macro is very good
This shot was just testing out closer photos - I think I could go even closer. HDR+ was off so these are just standard quick shots.
I have attached a photo which I guess will be higher res, and also put it on imgur for the guests viewing.
You can see tiny bits of specs of dust and paint on the rotor blade (rc model heli), very good quality. The blade is covered in oil btw...
http://imgur.com/fBNSRIl
The bokeh is not bad either!
Oh, and reviewing photos on the HD display is beautiful, you can easily see if they are sharp and the colours / clarity is spot on even in daylight.
few more on both regular and hdr +
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I'm impressed. I'm wondering how it does macro shots, that the real thing I want to know. Are those with HDR+ enabled?
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top one is hdr +
and one thing why ppl complaining about slow focus mine is almost instant focus and camera shots.
Compared to the Galaxy Nexus camera, I think the camera of the Nexus 5 is an improvement. It performs way better under suboptimal lighting conditions, and it supports HDR which snaps really nice pics with good colors.
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Macro is very good
This shot was just testing out closer photos - I think I could go even closer. HDR+ was off so these are just standard quick shots.
I have attached a photo which I guess will be higher res, and also put it on imgur for the guests viewing.
You can see tiny bits of specs of dust and paint on the rotor blade (rc model heli), very good quality. The blade is covered in oil btw...
http://imgur.com/fBNSRIl
The bokeh is not bad either!
Oh, and reviewing photos on the HD display is beautiful, you can easily see if they are sharp and the colours / clarity is spot on even in daylight.
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This is beyond expectation. Do you have an example of a pure bokeh, pure isn't what I mean, but like, a shot and then the background is completely bokeh.
Hi Folks,
I visited the fair today with my boy which arrives in the city once a year.
My boy was on the rides and I tried getting a few photos of him with my 20mp Sony Xperia Z3....
By the time the photo was taken, my boy had already gone by....
The camera is soooooooooo disappointing, but has so much potential to be good.
Has anybody discovered a decent camera app yet, that has no shutter lag and one that makes full use of the camera?
If I don't find something by November, I'm going for the Nexus 6 :silly:
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Hi Folks,
I visited the fair today with my boy which arrives in the city once a year.
My boy was on the rides and I tried getting a few photos of him with my 20mp Sony Xperia Z3....
By the time the photo was taken, my boy had already gone by....
The camera is soooooooooo disappointing, but has so much potential to be good.
Has anybody discovered a decent camera app yet, that has no shutter lag and one that makes full use of the camera?
If I don't find something by November, I'm going for the Nexus 6 :silly:
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Haven't tried a different app yet, but I may have something else for you. It's the autofocus that delays the photo.
1. Use the camera button
-push it down slightly, it should focus
-once it has found the focus, just keep holding it slightly
push the button completely if you want to take the photo, it should be without a delay now.
You can also use a different type of autofocus... Have to try the different modes for myself.
Also use manual mode, depending on the light conditions and the movement, you want a high shutter speed and if needed a higher iso, which gives you a sharper image while moving.
Damn, someone should write a guide for the camera
Thanks for this info. I'll give it a go
I'm not sure the camera is quick enough to capture moving stuff. I have tried a lot of modes and can't seem to sort it.
With an awful flash too, in sub par lighting, like parties, this is a recipe for absolute disaster. Can't believe Sony didn't sort out the camera flash.
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I'm not sure the camera is quick enough to capture moving stuff. I have tried a lot of modes and can't seem to sort it.
With an awful flash too, in sub par lighting, like parties, this is a recipe for absolute disaster. Can't believe Sony didn't sort out the camera flash.
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Sony has the ability to film and during film to make pictures. I do that for fast moving pictures, like filming friends that pass by during marathon's. You can then decide to keep the film and the pictures. If you only want pictures, delete the film afterwards. This way you can start filming in advance and you are sure you are not too late and you have the risk your camera is not ready yet.
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I'm not sure the camera is quick enough to capture moving stuff. I have tried a lot of modes and can't seem to sort it.
With an awful flash too, in sub par lighting, like parties, this is a recipe for absolute disaster. Can't believe Sony didn't sort out the camera flash.
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I haven't tried it yet, but have you tried the Timeshift burst? I think this is what we should use when trying to capture moving objects.
Yep, that is even better than my idea!
As a general rule, I only use auto on any camera when there is no more than one thing away from perfect conditions:
If it's motion but in great lighting, auto is ok.
If it's dark but the subject is still, auto is ok.
If it's a bit dark AND there is motion, you are gonna need to set up some manual settings or a mode like burst to get a good result. That said, as above, focussing first is essential for moving objects. Find something that is at the same distance as the subject you want, half hold the button to get the focus point, then hold it until the subject comes into frame, then depress fully. This, combined with burst, is the best way for fast movement.
Ok, I was at a scary halloween function last night, and by the time I took photos of scary subjects, they'd gone...
There's no excuse for this camera, it's a mess...
I have a Fuji XT1 camera and I know how photography works, apparently the Xperia Z3 has 20 mega pixels - Maybe it does, but only if you want a grainy shot....It's shocking!
KurtHoyle said:
Ok, I was at a scary halloween function last night, and by the time I took photos of scary subjects, they'd gone...
There's no excuse for this camera, it's a mess...
I have a Fuji XT1 camera and I know how photography works, apparently the Xperia Z3 has 20 mega pixels - Maybe it does, but only if you want a grainy shot....It's shocking!
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How can you say you understand photography when all you point to is the megapixel count? There is so much more to a good photo than resolution.
The reason I point to the 20 mega pixel is because the photos taken with this camera should be of a good enough standard to print out at a size of 18" x 12" however, the photos look grainy on screen so I'd hate to see how crap they look any bigger.
The camera is shocking, the 4k videos are too so please dont try to defend it. Its very poor!
A Better Camera is a good alternative.