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http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy30ssepc-bk.htm
Still say's under development, but man the thing is fugly IMHO. I am defiantly going to get one from ebay, and why only 3000 mah.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3500mAh-Extende...Accessories&hash=item3cb2c4bb14#ht_4129wt_916
I prefer this back the most. Just so it's entirely even.
why only 3000 mah.
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From what I've seen, Seidio's "3000 mAH" probably has more real capacity than the eBay "3500 mAH" batteries. Seidio's ratings are a little more conservative than most.
The problem is that the battery life you and I will see is determined by both capacity AND the battery's ability to deal with high loads. A lithium battery can supply more total milliamperes for more hours if you're drawing a tiny load than if you're sucking down power like there's no tomorrow. Two batteries that seem to allow you to draw "3500mAH" when you're drawing 1mA might appear to be very, very different when you jack the load up to 100mA, and one that's nominally smaller might actually last 10-25% longer than the larger battery at the higher load.
Right now, there really isn't any good, objective, tamper-proof and relevant standard for rating batteries. It's kind of like the way cheap amplifiers get rated as "PMPO", and expensive amplifiers get rated as "RMS, at X% THD". Even a single-chip amp can probably output 500 watts of power for a millisecond at 100% THD before the chip melts, but an amp that can output 500 watts at .1% THD all afternoon is going to cost quite a bit more money. What's missing from the battery industry spec is the "load" part of the equation that tells you how much current was being drawn when that rating was determined.
Oh, also... I might be imagining things, but it looks like they might have actually liked my idea of making the top layer of the battery overflow the stock battery's footprint to squeeze in a bit more battery capacity in the same thickness
on sale now... 69.99
This will make the phone .86" thick, compared to the stock .55". I had the sedio 3500mah on my incredible which made it .7" thick and that wasn't a problem. I'd love to see some feedback on just how huge a .86" phone feels in your pocket, the picture makes it look gigantic.
Can't testify to any actual dimensions, but I do know that I saw a guy with a Seidio battery on his EVO and to me, it actually felt better with the extra size and weight from the battery. It didn't make his EVO seem extra bulky or anything like that, and I think that should be the case with this battery for the Epic.
I want to get this battery, but 2 major things are stopping me:
1. The price is $70. Hrm...between the cheaper extended battery options and the cheaper spare batteries, it's hard to justify $70 for the Seidio battery, especially if the other cheaper batteries seem to last long enough.
2. There's no case for the back - this is the more important reason for me...I can get over the cost of the battery if it's worth it, but how do you protect the back of this thing? And if I leave the top half of my case on, then my phone will look extra ugly and ghetto. They need to make a case and/or more rugged battery cover for those of us that don't want to carry our phones fully or half naked.
IMO a real man lets his phone go naked.
Seriously, I've never used a case for any smartphone. Never had a problem either. But I do carry TEP on every device.
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Can't testify to any actual dimensions, but I do know that I saw a guy with a Seidio battery on his EVO and to me, it actually felt better with the extra size and weight from the battery. It didn't make his EVO seem extra bulky or anything like that, and I think that should be the case with this battery for the Epic.
I want to get this battery, but 2 major things are stopping me:
1. The price is $70. Hrm...between the cheaper extended battery options and the cheaper spare batteries, it's hard to justify $70 for the Seidio battery, especially if the other cheaper batteries seem to last long enough.
2. There's no case for the back - this is the more important reason for me...I can get over the cost of the battery if it's worth it, but how do you protect the back of this thing? And if I leave the top half of my case on, then my phone will look extra ugly and ghetto. They need to make a case and/or more rugged battery cover for those of us that don't want to carry our phones fully or half naked.
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To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
Please test the battery to figure out the real world mAh from the battery. I am very interested. If its anything like other Seido extended batteries, I expect it to be around 2450 mAh in reality.
Any input?
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To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
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Well you've sold me...if they come out with a decently priced battery+case combo, then I'll definitely go for the Seidio option. As far as I see, none of the other extended batteries have any case options.
brianbrain said:
To address your issues:
1) The price is $56 with 20% off coupon code "XMAS20" (without the quotes). I think that's very reasonable, especially when you consider the stock battery with charger is $50 from Sprint.
2) Seidio always end up making cases for their extended battery backs. The back to this unit is best looking one I've seen out of the extended batteries thus far, and give it a month or so and I'm sure there'll be a case you can purchase as well. I personally prefer leaving my phone naked
...yes, I did just order one. $56 well spent, I say - but we'll leave the final decision for when I actually get it and put it through proper use.
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I just ordered the extended battery and the separate battery charger. Thanks for the Coupon Code. As far as Seidio making cases for their extended battery backs, I've found this isn't the case at all. I bought the extended battery for the Treo 800w and also the HTC Hero and they never came out with an Innocase or anything else, for that matter, for either, although they said they would.
Another option that I've used for the Seidio extended battery is www.mobilecity.com. They had the Hero battery for $20 less than Seidioonline. Right now they list the Epic battery for $59, but the Coupon Code beats that price right now. As of today they don't have it in stock yet. http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26868
Just add a kickstand and im sold!
Does anyone have the Seidio extended battery? If so could someone post pictures of the thickness? I'm interested in the seidio battery because i don't like just having 1 hump on the battery case like the 2800 extended battery available on ebay. Plus seidio is known to have awesome extended batteries. If the phone is given a horrible thickness i'd totally buy it. Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
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Does anyone have the Seidio extended battery? If so could someone post pictures of the thickness? I'm interested in the seidio battery because i don't like just having 1 hump on the battery case like the 2800 extended battery available on ebay. Plus seidio is known to have awesome extended batteries. If the phone is given a horrible thickness i'd totally buy it. Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
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Going off a rough measurement its barely thicker then an Epic with a Seidio Innocase on (about the thickness of a quarter).
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Anyone with the 2800 have a hard time texting or using the game gripper for playing roms? Is it comfortable?
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I have the 2800 one. It is fine for texting. It definitely adds to the weight of the phone. I don't have the game gripper, but I can still play the racing games just fine. Well, I haven't gotten very far in the game, but I chalk that up to my poor gaming skills to begin with.
Are there any facts that show the cheaper 2800-3000 batteries on ebay are not as good seidio's batteries??? I don't wan to buy something cheap that doesn't last very long.
There is not that I know of. Seido might last a few more charge cycles, but the 3500 mAh battery that I bought and tested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864638
is the same thickness, has a true mAh rating around 2800-2900 mAh and works perfectly well with the game gripper. You can also buy these batteries for 12 dollars shipped, so even with the Seido coupon you could have 5 of the 3500 mAh batteries for the same price. And the Seido battery isn't going to have 5 times the cycles than the 3500 mAh ones.
Also, this Seido battery will have a real life rating of around 2400 mAh, if its anything like previous Seido extended batteries.
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There is not that I know of. Seido might last a few more charge cycles, but the 3500 mAh battery that I bought and tested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864638
is the same thickness, has a true mAh rating around 2800-2900 mAh and works perfectly well with the game gripper. You can also buy these batteries for 12 dollars shipped, so even with the Seido coupon you could have 5 of the 3500 mAh batteries for the same price. And the Seido battery isn't going to have 5 times the cycles than the 3500 mAh ones.
Also, this Seido battery will have a real life rating of around 2400 mAh, if its anything like previous Seido extended batteries.
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Based off cosmetics do you think it would be more comfortable having the entire case thicker like the seidio battery case? or is the 3500 mah comfortable enough? Also does it feel odd in your pocket? This is a hard decision for me. Maybe its just me but I like buying the good brand because of the name but the cosmetics of the seidio just look nicer to me than the one you have. This is a tough decision. I understand the battery life but now its all up to looks and feel. hmm.
I got the Hyperion Samsung Droid Charge i510 3500mAh Extended Battery from Amazon 5 days ago and have been training the battery; draining it to shutdown before charging it again.
I did initialize the battery statistics once it's fully charged the first time. It takes about 3 hours to charge the battery from 99% empty (it shuts down at 1%). It really is a hassle to do one cycle of charging and discharging with this battery. lol. I ended up streaming War and Peace movie off Netflix running on wifi or 4G to discharge whatever juice is left on the battery. So far, the battery capacity seems to continue increasing after each battery training cycle.
I'm happy with it. On the last cycle, I got 25 hours and 15 minutes. YMMV.
The Hyperion Extended Battery Silicone Case is in the mail.
Thanks for the info just got mines, about to order the case, please once you receive the case post pics..
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I have two different extended batteries & I ordered that POS Hyperion case.
The case is very chintzy & doesn't fit either battery setup correctly.
On one battery it is too small & with the other it is loose & sloppy.
~John
I finally got the Hyperion silicone case in the mail.
Chinzy is not the word to describe it. More like primitive, it's made out of the same material the army made the chemical warfare gas masks with, back in the 50's. lol. Anyway, I've never seen a warfare gas mask. But it sure looks so primitive. With the cases these days moving towards TPU material, this Hyperion case is so "5 years ago".
First, the minuses:
The cutout edges in the front and on the camera opening, as you can see on the pictures, are not tight, which is to be expected of a case with this material. Not flapping, but it's not as firm as the edges on a TPU case.
The button profiles are practically indecipherable to touch. You can't feel your way to find the buttons unless you've already been accustomed to their locations.
It's a dirt and dust magnet. I'm sure if you take it to the beach, it'll bring back a pocketful of sand home with you, too. Pocket lints love to stick all over it. I've read it somewhere that this silicone material, as a result of its 'magnetic personality', will eventually create scratches on the covered surface of your phone, even on the metal edges, if you let the dirt build up inside.
Take your pocket knife and start carving the micro usb cutout for it is simply not big enough to serve its purpose. I've tried many different micro usb cables and none of them will fit through the cutout.
The pluses:
It's made for Hyperion's extended battery cover, so it fits snugly onto the back of the phone, onto the Hyperion-brand extended battery cover and to all four sides and four corners. Because of the curves and bulges specific to an extended battery cover, I seriously doubt if this case will fit as well on other brands' extended battery covers.
It effectively hides the cheap-looking plastic battery cover, as long as you don't mind carrying something that has the appearance of a rubbery-looking bar of soap in your pocket.
It definitely gives the positive, sure-grip feel when you're holding your phone, unlike when you're grasping the bare and slippery, cheap-looking plastic extended battery cover that bears the same brand name.
All things considered, I really have no choice but to keep it. Enjoy the pictures.
Anybody got a link to the battery and case. How much are they? Shipping expensive
Edit....found it. Ordered the battery and the case last night
just bought the battery. expectations are high.
Update:
the silicone case has stretched considerably where it becomes too sloppy. Tossed it about about a month ago. Since then, the thin plastic cover that came with the extended battery had been exposed and has gotten more cosmetic scratches. The plastic cover later developed a tiny crack on one of the top corner that continued to grow longer until it cracked completely clear to the camera window.
Bought the OEM extended battery cover to replace the unusable Hyperion extended battery cover. The quality of the OEM extended battery cover is outstanding, it's made out of a much more rigid material, it's thicker and the surface finish superb and much more durable compared to the Hyperion's, and it's more resistant to scratches. I'm very happy with it. From comparing the OEM 2600mAH extended battery, the Hyperion battery is about 2-3mm thinner. So too be safe, i placed a few layers of folded paper between battery and my new cover.
The Hyperion extended battery:
It continues to perform well.
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Update:
the silicone case has stretched considerably where it becomes too sloppy. Tossed it about about a month ago. Since then, the thin plastic cover that came with the extended battery had been exposed and has gotten more cosmetic scratches. The plastic cover later developed a tiny crack on one of the top corner that continued to grow longer until it cracked completely clear to the camera window.
Bought the OEM extended battery cover to replace the unusable Hyperion extended battery cover. The quality of the OEM extended battery cover is outstanding, it's made out of a much more rigid material, it's thicker and the surface finish superb and much more durable compared to the Hyperion's, and it's more resistant to scratches. I'm very happy with it. From comparing the OEM 2600mAH extended battery, the Hyperion battery is about 2-3mm thinner. So too be safe, i placed a few layers of folded paper between battery and my new cover.
The Hyperion extended battery:
It continues to perform well.
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How long does it last? What kind of usage do you do?
I've been pretty happy with this battery too. I spend a lot of my day in a location with little or zero signal, and I still get 18-20 hours out of the battery with moderate levels of use.
I do agree that the default Hyperion case isn't the greatest. I bought the OEM extended battery case too and it's much better.
As a side note, Hyperion's customer service is amazing. My battery case arrived cracked in half, but with no questions asked they sent a replacement for not only the case - the battery too!
Ted A said:
Update:
the silicone case has stretched considerably where it becomes too sloppy. Tossed it about about a month ago. Since then, the thin plastic cover that came with the extended battery had been exposed and has gotten more cosmetic scratches. The plastic cover later developed a tiny crack on one of the top corner that continued to grow longer until it cracked completely clear to the camera window.
Bought the OEM extended battery cover to replace the unusable Hyperion extended battery cover. The quality of the OEM extended battery cover is outstanding, it's made out of a much more rigid material, it's thicker and the surface finish superb and much more durable compared to the Hyperion's, and it's more resistant to scratches. I'm very happy with it. From comparing the OEM 2600mAH extended battery, the Hyperion battery is about 2-3mm thinner. So too be safe, i placed a few layers of folded paper between battery and my new cover.
The Hyperion extended battery:
It continues to perform well.
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Where, by chance, did you buy the OEM extended battery cover? I've not yet been able to find a reputable [appearing] site that has it in stock.
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Where, by chance, did you buy the OEM extended battery cover? I've not yet been able to find a reputable [appearing] site that has it in stock.
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Buy it from Verizon, it's cheaper than everywhere else ($10) and in stock.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&accessoryId=47552
I just got an extended battery for my charge, its the trexcell extended battery the other one that amazon sells and I just wanted to say its working great. I'm still conditioning the battery but its very promising, my phone has been up for 12 hr. Now and it down to 40%... already much more battery life than stock battery
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It grows on you
I've had the ext batt and cover (Hyperion) for few months and I loved the batt right off the bat but the cover took me a bit.
Ted A makes some excellent points nice write up
Here are a few more
+ I've got big hands (I can palm a medicine ball lol) and the extended bump along with the grabby case make handling the phone much easier. Stock its like trying to hold a wet watermelon seed.
When setting on a smooth surface and using the screen (playing a game mostly) it doesnt fly across the table and onto the floor, the smoother the surface the grippier it is.
I left the phone on my lap and jumped out of my truck. It did a half gainer onto the asphalt with absolutely no damage. Thank you Hyperion.
- It doesnt fit in any car or desk cradles that I've tried Guess thats par for the course.
As Ted said the physical buttons are covered and the small indents are undetectable at least by my sausage fingers. It also negates the back lighting on the buttons.
The grip turns it into a tug of war sometimes when it comes time to get it out of your pocket, especially when sitting down. The neighbors might think your playing a violent game of pocket pool and tell the kids "get inside now"
All in all I wouldnt give up either, I forgot the cover at home one day and realized how good of a job it does. I handled the phone very carefully the extra weight and my track record for smashing small expensive and delicate things made me uneasy. Once you get used to it you wont want to go without.
Got the oem extended cover in today [ https://www.techiewarehouse.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SSA-EBC-994EBZB-J022 ] and I must say its much much better than the after market cover that comes with the extended battery. Every place I looked were sold out, the site there is the only place I could find... after Googling for ever, its in stock as of the time of this post
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Holey Schmidt!
I can never leave anything alone/stock, sometimes it works sometimes I have to throw it away before anybody sees how bad I screwed up a perfectly good ________ you fill in the blank.
Keeping up with tradition I got tired of not being able to tell what button was what when I had my case on my phone. So I broke out my trusty paper hole puncher and carefully punched out holes were the symbols were on my phone case....see pic. Works grrrrreat! I can tell which button is which even with my mechanics gloves on. Plus you can now see the buttons when they light up. If anyone is daring enough to try this make sure you clip the holes on the high side (best if the top of the hole is touching the line at the top of the button. The buttons centers are a little higher than the markings on the case.
I also have a 3500mAh extended battery and the life on it is awful. I do have med-heavy usage on it, but there is no way it should only last 6 hours or so... Any suggestions or is it probably some crap battery?
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I also have a 3500mAh extended battery and the life on it is awful. I do have med-heavy usage on it, but there is no way it should only last 6 hours or so... Any suggestions or is it probably some crap battery?
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Return it, get another, the one I have with low usage lasted over 24 hours ... with normal use it will last me the whole day 13+ hr.
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I'd recalibrate your battery first there is a sticky about it if I'm not misstaken do a search if you can't find it.
Which battery do you use? I want one that will work legitimately. I can't stand only having 6 hours on a 3500mAh battery or any batter for that matter! Thanks!
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Which battery do you use? I want one that will work legitimately. I can't stand only having 6 hours on a 3500mAh battery or any batter for that matter! Thanks!
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I have the trexcell 3500mah brand off Amazon, its works great as long as you condition the battery as the instructions say. My phone says it has 30.52hr when the battery its fully charged. That if you don't touch the phone at all, but it will last me 12 -15hr with normal use.
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Has anyone got this case? UNU Unity Samsung Galaxy S5 Battery Case on Amazon. Can't post a link yet.
Ultra-slim style 2800mAh battery case provides your Samsung Galaxy S5 an additional 100% power which is equal to 10 hours of talk-time.
Fully-customizable design with 360° of protection offering premium protection from scratches, fingerprints, smudges and bumps.
Offered in several vibrant colors, including magenta, blue, silver, and black
Integrated battery capacity detection. Detect Unity’s power levels directly on your phones screen.
Special Note: S5 is not water resistant when equipped with UNITY.
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Has anyone got this case? UNU Unity Samsung Galaxy S5 Battery Case on Amazon. Can't post a link yet.
Ultra-slim style 2800mAh battery case provides your Samsung Galaxy S5 an additional 100% power which is equal to 10 hours of talk-time.
Fully-customizable design with 360° of protection offering premium protection from scratches, fingerprints, smudges and bumps.
Offered in several vibrant colors, including magenta, blue, silver, and black
Integrated battery capacity detection. Detect Unity’s power levels directly on your phones screen.
Special Note: S5 is not water resistant when equipped with UNITY.
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Interesting... Hadn't heard of this before, but it's an option to think about.
http://www.myunu.com/unity-s5.html
I think Samsung built the NFC antenna into the battery in order to limit people getting batteries from 3rd party sources. It appears that UNU does a nice trick here where they simply put their battery in the original spot with contacts sticking out. Then you put the original battery, with the NFC into the contacts on their battery... thereby maintaining the NFC antenna. Good idea.
The only problem is wireless charging.... most 3rd party cards are built to lay flat against the inside. Their contacts wouldn't reach to the contacts on the phone with the double thick battery.
My guess is that it also doesn't maintain IP67 rating.
I just want an extended battery that maintains NFC, IP67 rating, and can be wirelessly charged. Oh... and preferably not TOO much thicker. Is that too much to ask??
It is rated as #1 in top 5 best battery case for Samsung Galaxy S5 in some high ranking websites, since I am new member and it wont' let me post links...
If you search " unu unity samsung galaxy s5 battery case" on google, you should be able to see some good results.
I have it.. Best money I've spent.. No crazy bulk still slim n sexy, double battery life.. Plus I have a third battery I can switch to without turning the phone off sonic have triple battery life and I love it.. Buy it
Do 5 seconds of searching. There's a thread already on this a few posts below.
I think I'm gonna get it. Had something close to this on my iPhone.
Got mine today, the case doubles the phone in thickness. Feels weird at first. After 12 hours of using it, I got used to it.
Oh another question : Is the thickness of the UNU Unity have affected your signal réception strengh?
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Oh another question : Is the thickness of the UNU Unity have affected your signal réception strengh?
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I haven't noticed any difference. The thickness is mostly air except where your original battery sticks in the little adapter, which is offset from the battery slot slightly.
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Oh another question : Is the thickness of the UNU Unity have affected your signal réception strengh?
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no, it doesn't.
Good to know! Thanks!
AWESOME battery case. I tested it for UNU and must say, I would have paid the full price for the case. It's is about double the thickness of the phone with the case on. It does have a nice rounded back however so it doesn't feel big in the hands by any means. With the case I was able to get about 36 hours of battery life with full screen brightness, gps on and consistently looking for service (no service inside the college). I had about 7 1/2 hours of on screen time as well. Another awesome feature is that your phone automatically recognizes the bigger battery and displays the correct percent of battery. Plus it is a legitimate case for some protection as well. I'll post some pictures of the case on the phone tonight if you'd like.
I Beta tested this case, I was not thrilled with it. You lose waterproof capability, it is very slick and a fingerprint magnet. The bumper cracked at the bottom by the charging port. I dropped it by accident and everything fell apart, had to put it all back together and reboot phone. The buttons can be activated in your pocket, many times I heard my phone beeping just to find it was trying to unlock. YMMV, glad I got it free I used it for 5 days to test it, and havent used it since. The only plus is it does give you better battery life they say its 100% more but I only saw a 60-70% improvement.
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These extended batteries that come with custom cases, just how thick are they? I think it'd be really uncomfortable using such a fat phone. I have a cheap case on my Moto G3 that feels really bulky and uncomfortable but it isn't as big as some of these extended battery cases are. Anyone used them? How comfortable do they feel?
Hi, late answer but maybe you're going to read it though. I'm using an extended battery and yes, of course it makes your s4 bigger. But for me it was just a matter of time to get used to it. You have to choose: Comfort or battery capacity. I have choosen capacity.
Perhaps it's just me, but I like the extra weight and size the ZeroLemon adds to my S4. The phone feels way too light without it to me. I think you'll get used to it and maybe even learn to love it over time if you do jump over to an extended battery. The only real inconvenience added in my case with the ZeroLemon battery specifically is having to remove the battery to take out the Micro SD card in the phone.
I also use the Zerolemon battery with the belt case for the S4 which takes care of the weight and gives me ready access. Use this method always on my Galaxy S5 and still sorry that it was not available with the belt case for the Galaxy S7e
I have to report a huge increase in functionality when adding three things: Oreo, the official v20 charging cradle and an extended 6,700 mAh battery that actually fits in the official charging cradle. If you use a 3.0 charging station the battery will charge quickly. I just ordered a second battery ($25.90 each on Amazon) so I can l use my phone as a hot spot with my Samsung Chromebook Pro for long stretches. It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use. I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore. The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues. And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall. The Oreo update (Verizon) has massively improved my battery time. With extended battery I'm getting closer and closer to 8 hours screen on time and the phone still fits in my button dowm shirt front pocket. I was barely hitting 3 hours SOT with the stock 3,300 batteries (I have 5 that I picked up cheap). I guess I can now wait for that Note 9 to come down in price even if the black Friday deal is weak sauce.
Aintree Porsche said:
I have to report a huge increase in functionality when adding three things: Oreo, the official v20 charging cradle and an extended 6,700 mAh battery that actually fits in the official charging cradle. If you use a 3.0 charging station the battery will charge quickly. I just ordered a second battery ($25.90 each on Amazon) so I can l use my phone as a hot spot with my Samsung Chromebook Pro for long stretches. It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use. I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore. The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues. And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall. The Oreo update (Verizon) has massively improved my battery time. With extended battery I'm getting closer and closer to 8 hours screen on time and the phone still fits in my button dowm shirt front pocket. I was barely hitting 3 hours SOT with the stock 3,300 batteries (I have 5 that I picked up cheap). I guess I can now wait for that Note 9 to come down in price even if the black Friday deal is weak sauce.
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Hi Aintree, what is the battery called, and link? please if you dont mind.
Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)
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Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)
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I honestly don't see the software flaw. it's flawless and buttery smooth. Despite the slow updates, its the best phone. You can customize the UI from play store themes without having CM ROMS or any special thing. Samsung does have that, and is very limited.
YPG70 said:
Hi Aintree, what is the battery called, and link? please if you dont mind.
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iPosible battery $25.90 on Amazon
But just FYI without the official V20 charging cradle (the little white one with the door) I was getting very slow charging for some reason. I had it plugged into a Quick Charge 3.0 port the lightning bolt icon would appear to show it was quick charge capable but it would charge really slowly over 4 hours once from 15% to 80%. With the V20 cradle it charged from 0 to 100% in about 2 hours abd 15 minutes.
YPG70 said:
I honestly don't see the software flaw. it's flawless and buttery smooth. Despite the slow updates, its the best phone. You can customize the UI from play store themes without having CM ROMS or any special thing. Samsung does have that, and is very limited.
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"slow updates", that's mostly what I was referring to when describing it's "flaws" (security patches especially...). But yeah, hardware wise, it's a great phone
Aintree Porsche said:
It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use.
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How's the grip on this case ?
I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore.The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues.
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I never had heat issues with the stock battery
And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall.
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Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9
One Twelve said:
How's the grip on this case ?
I never had heat issues with the stock battery
Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9
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Yep that's the one.
I shouldn't have said heat issue, the phone getting hot in the the last 15% of battery is not unheard of. But it definitely seems to make the image retention/ghosting or whatever you want to call it, worse. The solution for me seems to be to use a battery that will be more likely to keep you above 15% if you are a heavy user. 6700 mAh will do the trick. Better than stock by double but not like carrying a stapler in your pocket with 10,000 maAh. Btw, I've had that screen issue on two V10's and two V20's. Actually it happened sooner with the V20. Major flaw of this type of display.
Grip on the case is fine. The standard black matte finish type rubber that has plenty of flex albeit a little on the stiff side. I use Di-Noc carbon fiber wrap on most of my devices like the back od my laptop, my FiiO DAC, phone cases even my bicycle frame. I might cut out a square for this one.
ssnova said:
Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)
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Yeah that was dumb by Sony to remove the headphone jack. They basically lost all the audio enthusiasts. Bluetooth has come a long way but it will never have the sound stage of a top end corded headphone. I would have gone with a Sony phone if they worked well or at all on Verizon. Their 4K phones have by far the best displays on the market. OLED is great and all but you can't beat the realism of a Sony 4K display. It's like looking through a glass window. No yellowy tinge of the OLED displays.
Further to your Bluetooth comment.
In the Oreo update Google put in a new codec called LDAC, this codec was developed by Sony but surprisingly left open source by them for others to use.
There are a few other manufacturers besides the Sony Bluetooth models (earbuds, speakers, etc) that are just coming to market.
The interesting part is that the LDAC codec is head and shoulders above the previous best AptX HD. I'm no expert but I think as this codec takes hold that it could give equal performance to wireless outside of the audiophile domain ($$$$$).
I can see in the not to distant future that I'm going to purchase a set of Bluetooth LDAC earbuds to give them a try.
In the "developer options" in Oreo settings if you scroll down there is a section for Bluetooth that lets you set the codec - if you want to see.
You should read up on LDAC if you haven't already, I found it interesting.
Aintree Porsche said:
Yeah that was dumb by Sony to remove the headphone jack. They basically lost all the audio enthusiasts. Bluetooth has come a long way but it will never have the sound stage of a top end corded headphone. I would have gone with a Sony phone if they worked well or at all on Verizon. Their 4K phones have by far the best displays on the market. OLED is great and all but you can't beat the realism of a Sony 4K display. It's like looking through a glass window. No yellowy tinge of the OLED displays.
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Aintree Porsche said:
Yep that's the one.
I shouldn't have said heat issue, the phone getting hot in the the last 15% of battery is not unheard of. But it definitely seems to make the image retention/ghosting or whatever you want to call it, worse. The solution for me seems to be to use a battery that will be more likely to keep you above 15% if you are a heavy user. 6700 mAh will do the trick. Better than stock by double but not like carrying a stapler in your pocket with 10,000 maAh. Btw, I've had that screen issue on two V10's and two V20's. Actually it happened sooner with the V20. Major flaw of this type of display.
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10,000 is too big. 6000 more manageable.
What's your brightness set to in % usually ?
I've never had any image retention problems and the reason i suspect is i don't need more than 25% indoors.
Brighter the screen, hotter it runs, quicker battery runs down and in turn also heats as the power draw is higher.
Grip on the case is fine. The standard black matte finish type rubber that has plenty of flex albeit a little on the stiff side. I use Di-Noc carbon fiber wrap on most of my devices like the back od my laptop, my FiiO DAC, phone cases even my bicycle frame. I might cut out a square for this one.
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Looks quite thick compared to what dbrand and similar sells.
One Twelve said:
10,000 is too big. 6000 more manageable.
What's your brightness set to in % usually ?
I've never had any image retention problems and the reason i suspect is i don't need more than 25% indoors.
Brighter the screen, hotter it runs, quicker battery runs down and in turn also heats as the power draw is higher.
Looks quite thick compared to what dbrand and similar sells.
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I always run my screens at least 70% brightness. 100% outside which is often. I figure If I'm going to have the ability to not worry about battery life then I should put the display to the durability test. I've never had burn in or image retention issues with any Apple, Moto, Nexus or Samsung device display. After 10pm I run blue light so I don't get a weird sleep issue. But it's funny that image issues finally came to one of my phones and it happened on this device first before OLEDs despite their infamous history of burn in.
The Dbrand skins look nice. But I can get a roll of 3M Do-Noc for the same price. Wrapping a square or rectangular shape is about a simple as it gets. And it looks Better than stock.
No backcover - could be problematic
One Twelve said:
How's the grip on this case ?
I never had heat issues with the stock battery
Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9
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- I had it delivered today and after about 3 hours of use ended but returning it because it does not come with a backcover. It comes with a rubber case that is somewhat loose and will no doubt allow dust and maybe even moisture to leak into the phone easily. Could be problematic especially if you are more on the active side - I like hiking and trekking. Ended up ordering a combo Pefine 6400mah extended battery along with the Hyperion extended battery TPU case. The backcover on the Perfine is plastic, but should STILL offers the needed protection and the Hyperion case will fit on top of that which will prevent the backcover from breaking.
If the iPosible battery is the same depth as the Perfine, perhaps the backcover can fit as well but I cant seem to find an extended battery backcover on Amazon.
Perfine battery (comes with 2 backcovers) [Amazon.com]
Hyperion Case [Amazon.com]
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- I had it delivered today and after about 3 hours of use ended but returning it because it does not come with a backcover. It comes with a rubber case that is somewhat loose and will no doubt allow dust and maybe even moisture to leak into the phone easily. Could be problematic especially if you are more on the active side - I like hiking and trekking. Ended up ordering a combo Pefine 6400mah extended battery along with the Hyperion extended battery TPU case. The backcover on the Perfine is plastic, but should STILL offers the needed protection and the Hyperion case will fit on top of that which will prevent the backcover from breaking.
If the iPosible battery is the same depth as the Perfine, perhaps the backcover can fit as well but I cant seem to find an extended battery backcover on Amazon.
Perfine battery (comes with 2 backcovers) [Amazon.com]
Hyperion Case [Amazon.com]
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I think they should send you a new case. Mine is a very tight fit. Much tighter than the other cases I use like Spigen which peel right off with one hand almost.
Aintree Porsche said:
I think they should send you a new case. Mine is a very tight fit. Much tighter than the other cases I use like Spigen which peel right off with one hand almost.
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Perhaps you are right. The case I recived other than having many scuffs was loose. The Spigen likewise is also just a case. The backcover that Im taking about is the piece of tin or plastic that covers the internals (like the metal backcover that comes with the stock lg phone). A case should slip on top of the backcover. In the case of the iPosible, its the battery + the rubber case - no backcover. It might absorb shock but not sure how because well it insulates the internals from dust or water since its rubber and is elastic and not as waterproof. The v20 is not advertised as waterproof in the first place so this would make it more vulnerable to environment.
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Perhaps you are right. The case I recived other than having many scuffs was loose. The Spigen likewise is also just a case. The backcover that Im taking about is the piece of tin or plastic that covers the internals (like the metal backcover that comes with the stock lg phone). A case should slip on top of the backcover. In the case of the iPosible, its the battery + the rubber case - no backcover. It might absorb shock but not sure how because well it insulates the internals from dust or water since its rubber and is elastic and not as waterproof. The v20 is not advertised as waterproof in the first place so this would make it more vulnerable to environment.
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I have been using the perfine battery with the plastic battery case for 4 months now and, it has been the best decision that I have did on two H918's that I have. They are available on Amazon right now.
scorpio76r said:
I have been using the perfine battery with the plastic battery case for 4 months now and, it has been the best decision that I have did on two H918's that I have. They are available on Amazon right now.
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Yeah it's not as secure as having a back cover. But I have never used these to reduce weight. On most cases the fit is tight enough to keep the battery in place. If you ever do have an issue and the little strip for water damage turns red but the phone is otherwise fine you can turn the strip white again by taking q-tip and small amount of Clorox bleach and the red will go away.
Update on Screen On Time. Pretty incredible for this phone.
Aintree Porsche said:
Yeah it's not as secure as having a back cover. But I have never used these to reduce weight. On most cases the fit is tight enough to keep the battery in place. If you ever do have an issue and the little strip for water damage turns red but the phone is otherwise fine you can turn the strip white again by taking q-tip and small amount of Clorox bleach and the red will go away.
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I have had no issues since using the battery or included back case. Water has not been a issue either. I don't submerge it in water or anything but, rain, light spills etc. My two devices have been good.
scorpio76r said:
I have had no issues since using the battery or included back case. Water has not been a issue either. I don't submerge it in water or anything but, rain, light spills etc. My two devices have been good.
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How's the grip no the back of that perfine case. Looks slippery to me.
Id just swap batteries if i wanted and retain the same form factor but with a case of my choice or one that takes my fancy on the particular day.