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free hotspot mod???

Does anyone know if the free hotspot mod that worked on the Inc works on the Tbolt as well....I have a sneaking feeling that it doesnt since the 4g card sort of throw a wrench in the programming stuff, but I don't rmember how it worked since I rooted and didnt need it after about June of last year. But I havent rooted my tbolt yet and am interested in using it after the 5/15 trail runs out (if it mkaes any difference I am not in a 4g area, so 3g hotspot would be sufficient...

Wardroid said:
Does anyone know if the free hotspot mod that worked on the Inc works on the Tbolt as well....I have a sneaking feeling that it doesnt since the 4g card sort of throw a wrench in the programming stuff, but I don't rmember how it worked since I rooted and didnt need it after about June of last year. But I havent rooted my tbolt yet and am interested in using it after the 5/15 trail runs out (if it mkaes any difference I am not in a 4g area, so 3g hotspot would be sufficient...
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1) fraud
2) no it wont

1) tether fees are crap, I already pay once for the data...but thats another discussion..
2) thanks!

Wardroid said:
1) tether fees are crap, I already pay once for the data...but thats another discussion..
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Correct! you pay once for the data to use on that ONE device. If Mobile providers went by the same metrics as home service you would be paying $50 for the internet to use on any device you wanted. Since it's a mobile device you are paying for just that device not whatever devices you want. $30 for unlimited LTE is a great deal, and it's people like you who feel entitles to leach off the network for free so you can run a server or not have to pay for home internet. But thats another discussion ;-)

chaoscentral said:
Correct! you pay once for the data to use on that ONE device. If Mobile providers went by the same metrics as home service you would be paying $50 for the internet to use on any device you wanted. Since it's a mobile device you are paying for just that device not whatever devices you want. $30 for unlimited LTE is a great deal, and it's people like you who feel entitles to leach off the network for free so you can run a server or not have to pay for home internet. But thats another discussion ;-)
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I agree with you but also believe that we should get a small monthly allowance for wifi tethering. Maybe 200mb. Maybe less.
I'm the guy who needs to access the web from my laptop to edit a document and email it to a customer quickly while at a trade show or traveling once every 3 months. I now go to a free wifi hotspot somewhere instead of paying verizon.
People using hacked tethering that use a lot of data is not cool.

its people like me who already pay vzw $50 a month for internet at home and $30 a month for internet on my phone, who, when traveling, would like to be able to use the device I pay verizon for the privilege of using to view the same exact data on a larger freakin screen. Why do they give a crap whether I look at a website from my phone or use the phone to pull up the website on a laptop. Don't give me the people like you spiel....

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its people like me who already pay vzw $50 a month for internet at home and $30 a month for internet on my phone, who, when traveling, would like to be able to use the device I pay verizon for the privilege of using to view the same exact data on a larger freakin screen. Why do they give a crap whether I look at a website from my phone or use the phone to pull up the website on a laptop. Don't give me the people like you spiel....
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They give a crap because you're paying Verizon to use data on the phone, not whatever device you'd like. It's as simple as that.

They (vzw) give a crap cuz it makes them money... Dont sugar coat it, for years "people like us" have kept them goin if i wanna leech so i can check my email on a laptop once in a while i will.
Anyone trying to use tether for a home Internet connection is just stupid 4g or not...
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Drukan said:
They (vzw) give a crap cuz it makes them money... Dont sugar coat it, for years "people like us" have kept them goin if i wanna leech so i can check my email on a laptop once in a while i will.
Anyone trying to use tether for a home Internet connection is just stupid 4g or not...
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its people like me who already pay vzw $50 a month for internet at home and $30 a month for internet on my phone, who, when traveling, would like to be able to use the device I pay verizon for the privilege of using to view the same exact data on a larger freakin screen. Why do they give a crap whether I look at a website from my phone or use the phone to pull up the website on a laptop. Don't give me the people like you spiel....
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There should be some additional benefit to buying home internet from them as well. It is a shame they can't see the wisdom in this from a marketing perspective.
That said, the rumor is that they are going after people for trying to do this... Personally i'm going to use the crap out of my hotspot till they take it away My 4G was way better than the hotel wifi on my current business trip, so i've racked up quite a bit of data. Between downloading the new ubuntu 11.04 iso and watching the office, while sitting at the airport, i think i've gotten my money's worth.

Free hotspot for another month

Well I didn't see this posted anywhere else but I just got a text message from Verizon saying I get another month of hotbot free. Here is a copy of the text.
FREE VZW MSG: The Mobile Hotspot/Mobile Broadband Connect promotion for your Smartphone has been extended to 6/15/2011. Share your internet access with up to 8 Wi-Fi capable devices or with your notebook or netbook. After the promotion expires, additional access charges will apply.
Did anyone else get this?

Yes, I got this message as well.

Got it too, made my day
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The extension is probably in lieu of the Charge being released soon. Cant complain.

RossLH said:
The extension is probably in lieu of the Charge being released soon. Cant complain.
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Charge has been out for a few days now...

I never claimed to be on top of things...

this could be a case of moron-employee, but a rep I talked to today at a store in Thousand Oaks (Cali.) told me they had no plans to charge for wi-fi hotspot use provided you already had unlimited data.

I suspect it will be free until they have tiered data pricing in place. Because it's free, you can't sign up for it. After tiered data is in place, when you sign up, you're not grandfathered, so that means a contract change along with tiered pricing.
Net/net, there will be no way to grandfather unlimited data along with tethering on the TB.

my mobile hot spot has been shotty lately. Constantly cutting out but i did get the text 5/16

mike.s said:
I suspect it will be free until they have tiered data pricing in place. Because it's free, you can't sign up for it. After tiered data is in place, when you sign up, you're not grandfathered, so that means a contract change along with tiered pricing.
Net/net, there will be no way to grandfather unlimited data along with tethering on the TB.
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I called on the 15th and asked about the pricing and here's what they thought was reasonable......
$50 - 5GB
$80 - 10GB
$10 - EVERY GB Over!!!
I balked and hung up, got a callback for a customer survey 2 min later, told them I wasn't happy and they said a manager may call me back....
The next morning I get that message and it was on engadget...
I guess they had a lot of calls like that....
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I got the message too about charging after a certain date. I seriously doubt Verizon is going to let any money slip through their fingers by grandfathering anyone in. Which is fine with me, I like Wireless Tether better!!!

This may sound a bit on the paranoid side. But, did any one ever think that maybe VZW was letting us have free hot spot feature to see how much DATA we would actually incure on our individual lines? Verizon has a way of finding out how much DATA is being passed through there tather app. That will give them an idea of who is using the after market teather app when there hotspot feature goes to a teared price plann. They know that some will go back to the teather app. And they will be able to make a pretty good educated guess as to whoo is using what. And please, don't tell me that they wouldn't do that. This is a corporation that is out to make money. And we have all the technology that is needed to acquire any info that is desired. And there is nothing wrong with that. But, they think it is OK to charge us for data passing through our phones to any other device other than the phone. When truly, we can download anything we want to the phone and then pass it to a device of our choice either through WiFi or USB. They are merely trying to charge us for convenience. I don't ever use more DATA when teathered to an external device than I could or do when I am on my phone. This charging for DATA tunneling is ridiculous. And has to stop. These a$$ hat clowns have to stop charging for anything they like. What hell! There prices are above and beyond ok. 5 gigs for $50 and so on? Yeah, that's totally reasonable!
One other thing. I don't particularly want to hear some snub nosed douch tell me if I don't like the prices that I can go somewhere else for a cell provider. Yeah, that would be great if 1, VZW didn't purchase Alltel. Or 2, ATT didn't purchase T Mobile. Not that I would move to a GSM carrier. And I kind of need the coverage that aCDMA company can provide. Yes, I know the saying, you pay higher prices for better service. And don't get me wrong. I am grateful to have these technologies available to us. But, the prices have to come down a bit. Any way, I am done *****ing an wearing my tin foil hat. Good evening every one.
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If you don't like the data (what do you use DATA as an acrynym for?) pricing, you can cancel the service. No one is forcing it on you.

mike.s said:
If you don't like the data (what do you use DATA as an acrynym for?) pricing, you can cancel the service. No one is forcing it on you.
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That's not a solution either. While I completely agree with the poster your replying to, I'm not sure there is much we as consumers can do about it. Those of us who actually care and realize what is happening are in the minority. The rest of the consumers who simply use their phones to broadcast their location to everyone on facebook and twitter or check their e-mail will never know that they are being ripped off.

Well unfortunately if Verizon does put me on tiered pricing for data I actually would change carriers. The main reason I came to Verizon was for their service. I don't tether that often, but I like to have the option without having to worry about extra fees but I use the data on my phone A LOT. I honestly doubt they will, but if Verizon does force everyone onto tiered pricing, well, at that point I might as well be with Cricket because all I'll be using is the phone.

I would like to be honest, so given a reasonable price I would buy the tether service, but still use my wired tether app because they wont support wired teather themselves....
The CSR did however tell me that supposedly you will only be charged for what the tether app itself uses and that regular phone data would not count...
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I would be willing to pay $60/mo for unlimited access on top of my current plan. That would match my current ISP. Anything more and I'll just get a VPN service and tether using VPN to prevent them from seeing what traffic is from my phone and what is from another device.

meh, I went ahead and put wifi tether on my tbolt

1 two hour hd movie uses 3 gb of data. I dare Verizon to put a 5gb cap considering a lot of kids use their phone for YouTube viewing which if I remember correctly has hd viewing.
Just as a side note I was on at&T's website the other day (don't ask) and used their usage calculator. They basically told me none of their plans were big enough for what I do on my phone alone let alone tethering with other devices. LOL.
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I had a question regarding the hotspot. I verizon rep told me that we have the hotspot free until 6/15 and after that it will be $20/month for 1G. If you go over its and additional $20 for every following GB. My question is does anyone know how the free hotspot works. Do we only get 1G free and if we go over we will be charged or is it unlimted until the pricing starts and then it has the cap?

VZW Blocking teathering without teathering plan.

http://arstechnica.com/#!/gadgets/n...tethering-customers-may-violate-fcc-rules.ars
I'm at work and cannot confirm that vzw is now redirecting all 3rd party teathering apps to its sign-up page for teathering. Can anyone confirm this?
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not sure if you're refering to just wireless or all tethering, but PDA Net still works just fine.

Funny that the article discusses a "jailbroken" Droid X and pictures and iphone.
Nevertheless, this is why I decided to pay for unlimited tethering, no more looking over my shoulder. With my wife's discount on service it was a great deal.
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Meh, let them try. I tethered all weekend driving from DC to Philedelphia and back
There is absolutely no way they can call tethering a provided "service" beyond simply providing data to the phones. What we do with that data is none of their dam business. If you are forced into a tiered data plan, it should not be up to them how you may use that limited data. If you want to tether and use your whole allowance on day one of the month, that should be your right.

No issues. Its working fine on mine.
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my "jailbroken" Thunderbolt is in tethercity with no concerns.
in fact, that's how I'm posting this.
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Good luck trying to block it. They can request the apps removed from market. We'll just download them elsewhere. They should be spending their energy on something more customer friendly, and stop trying to punish people.

Ita impossivle for verizon to determine if u are downloading bigass files on ur phone or through thetering.
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kevenrivera said:
Ita impossivle for verizon to determine if u are downloading bigass files on ur phone or through thetering.
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To them it doesn't matter. If you're downloading 80GB+ per month, which some are, you're abusing the network.
They'll more than likely develop a throttling system for extreme users. It's not fair for them to suck up all of my bandwidth if they're too cheap to pay for regular internet or the hotspot feature.
200th post...FTW!!

I had heard with LTE they have more control over the network and would actually be able to tell if it was your phone or if it was a PC attached to the network through tethering.

rommel500 said:
I had heard with LTE they have more control over the network and would actually be able to tell if it was your phone or if it was a PC attached to the network through tethering.
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They will never be able to tell those things unless inspecting your packets.....which is an obvious violation of privacy

Using Barnacle and traveling around the country at the moment, no issues here.

rommel500 said:
I had heard with LTE they have more control over the network and would actually be able to tell if it was your phone or if it was a PC attached to the network through tethering.
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they can tell, but apparently its a PIA to do it. I would expect for unlimited users to start getting throttled if they use a huge amount of data (which is already in your contract).
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They will never be able to tell those things unless inspecting your packets.....which is an obvious violation of privacy
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umm, they are providing the data. Good luck winning a lawsuit saying they didn't have the right to verify you weren't breaking the TOS.
As far as the OP, I really think they got confused. AT&T can tell if you are tethering your iphone using the mifi cydia program. Apparently the program tells at&t that its tethering. But isn't that the dev that apple hired anyways so he probably added that on purpose?

There's no way to tell what "kind" of data is being used other than what the phone reports. On my Dinc, it was the ol' "dun" fix. I don't use it enough anymore to justify the extra expense, considering how many free WiFi locations are available. Also, I rarely even use my laptop anymore, I do 99% of my browsing from my phone.
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CanesDrew said:
To them it doesn't matter. If you're downloading 80GB+ per month, which some are, you're abusing the network.
They'll more than likely develop a throttling system for extreme users. It's not fair for them to suck up all of my bandwidth if they're too cheap to pay for regular internet or the hotspot feature.
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They already throttle too users. No one is Sucking up your bandwidth either. I was sold an unlimited data plan and they gladly took my money.
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eallan said:
They already throttle too users. No one is Sucking up your bandwidth either. I was sold an unlimited data plan and they gladly took my money.
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You were sold an unlimited data plan for phone data, with the condition that the top 5% of bandwidth users could be throttled. Read your contract.

This isn't news.... We've known about this for months....
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lrs421 said:
Funny that the article discusses a "jailbroken" Droid X and pictures and iphone.
Nevertheless, this is why I decided to pay for unlimited tethering, no more looking over my shoulder. With my wife's discount on service it was a great deal.
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Me too, same as you. Except for the wifey thing.

eallan said:
They already throttle too users. No one is Sucking up your bandwidth either. I was sold an unlimited data plan and they gladly took my money.
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It's semantics. From a technical point of view there's no such thing as unlimited data. Multiply the download speed times the number of hours in a month and that's the theoretical limit. Of course, no one can go the full download speed all the time. It's just not possible.
What you get promised is that they won't cut you off at a specific number of bytes. However, unlike cable companies, I haven't seen any phone carrier advertise or even mention the download speed. They can't. Unlike your cable modem, your phone moves around.
So, not having promised any kind of speed performance it's easy for them to just slow you down if you eat too many bytes.
And, as an "average" user I'm THRILLED that they throttle the heavy users. I don't want to be on a network that averages 500kbps because there are hundreds of people in my cell eating up the bandwidth all the time.

Tethering bust

I finally got the email today stating they're gonna change my plan if I don't stop tethering. I'll lose my unlimited data & have to pay another arm for my bill. What should I do? If they change my plan I could get out of my contract, maybe? If I stop using it they won't do anything right? What if I "accidently" used it like once a week instead of everyday? How did they even catch me? If anyone else went thru this I need some suggestions. Thanks
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ZephCr said:
I finally got the email today stating they're gonna change my plan if I don't stop tethering. I'll lose my unlimited data & have to pay another arm for my bill. What should I do? If they change my plan I could get out of my contract, maybe? If I stop using it they won't do anything right? What if I "accidently" used it like once a week instead of everyday? How did they even catch me? If anyone else went thru this I need some suggestions. Thanks
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I got the letter last month and I'm still teathering

They said if I didn't change it by the next bill they would change it. Keep me posted if they change yours let me know please.
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I got the same letter from AT$T and I've never tethered so I'd like to see them prove squat. I don't think they can tell but I do suspect they send anyone that letter running a non-stock ROM.
No longer sent from my BlackBerry.

Captain Zero said:
I got the same letter from AT$T and I've never tethered so I'd like to see them prove squat. I don't think they can tell but I do suspect they send anyone that letter running a non-stock ROM.
No longer sent from my BlackBerry.
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Nope. I've been running non-stock ROMs on ATT for a long time now, and I don't tether, and I've not gotten a letter.

Remember that AT&T is using your browser agent string to determine if you're tethering. If you are tethering, try changing your browser agent string on the computer you are tethering.
Somewhere there was a post on the whole thing but I'm having trouble tracking it down right now.

Has anyone actually had att change their plan because of tethering & lose their unlimited data plan?
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I finally got the email today stating they're gonna change my plan if I don't stop tethering. I'll lose my unlimited data & have to pay another arm for my bill. What should I do? If they change my plan I could get out of my contract, maybe? If I stop using it they won't do anything right? What if I "accidently" used it like once a week instead of everyday? How did they even catch me? If anyone else went thru this I need some suggestions. Thanks
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if they change the terms of your contract you have 30 days to cancel without penalty

Red_81 said:
Remember that AT&T is using your browser agent string to determine if you're tethering. If you are tethering, try changing your browser agent string on the computer you are tethering.
Somewhere there was a post on the whole thing but I'm having trouble tracking it down right now.
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More info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17697118

bames said:
if they change the terms of your contract you have 30 days to cancel without penalty
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Is this listed/detailed officially anyplace?

Cant do ****
they cant change your plan because they cant prove your doing it and they cant chang your contract

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if they change the terms of your contract you have 30 days to cancel without penalty
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They can cancel your unlimited data at any time. You did not sign a contract with unlimited data, you signed a contract for 24 months service. That's why you can cancel your data at any time, and change your rate plan at any time. You also agreed not to tether in the att terms and conditions (unless you purchase the tethering plan). By tethering you have already violated your end of the bargain. Somewhere, either in store, on the phone or online when you signed up for unlimited data you agreed not to tether. They are within their right to not only charge you more for SUSPECTED tethering, but to also back charge you for previous months. They have no burden of proof. They may not force that issue, for fear of bad PR, but they are well within their legal rights to charge you for tethering, and hold you to your service contract. They have been known to send accounts to collection, and hurt your credit.
I am not saying I agree with them, bug its all in the gigantic Terms and Agreements.
Don't be under the false assumption that they cannot charge you more, or that by charging you more you can get out of your contract.
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Am I the only one using Straight Talk? $45 a month everything unlimited(so far). I get my service from ATT towers but dont actually answer to ATT. I tether on the regular but nothing big. Mostly browsing. And big downloads. Where i live dial-up is the only option so I feel like I have no choice(Yes I still live in the US). Straight Talk has no tethering plan but their T&S clearly states they're against it. Straight Talk themselves probably doesnt care. ATT problem right? And ATT cant say anything because I dont use their service. Who's problem am I?

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Don't be under the false assumption that they cannot charge you more, or that by charging you more you can get out of your contract.
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If they change the terms of your contract (including adding or removing features) you DO IN FACT HAVE 30 DAYS TO TERMINATE YOU SERVICE WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE

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If they change the terms of your contract (including adding or removing features) you DO IN FACT HAVE 30 DAYS TO TERMINATE YOU SERVICE WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE
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Data is not part of your contract.
You are right, if they do in fact alter the terms of your contract you can terminate. But, by charging you for illegal tethering they are not altering your contract.
*#$% DATA IS NOT PART OF YOUR CONTRACT. YOU AGREED NOT TO TETHER. YOU VIOLATED THE TERMS NOT AT&T. %$#*
Data is not part of your contract.
I hope I said that enough.
Go ahead, continue tethering, and when they charge you for tethering, stop paying your bill. Report back how that works out for you.
Look up the Wireless Customer Agreement on AT&T's website. Section 6.2.
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If they change the terms of your contract (including adding or removing features) you DO IN FACT HAVE 30 DAYS TO TERMINATE YOU SERVICE WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE
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Read your TOS. In it ATT states that they reserve the right to change you plan as needed as long as they let you know. And tethering without a tethering plan breaks your TOS so you would still have ta pay the ETF.

Red_81 said:
Remember that AT&T is using your browser agent string to determine if you're tethering. If you are tethering, try changing your browser agent string on the computer you are tethering.
Somewhere there was a post on the whole thing but I'm having trouble tracking it down right now.
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Does that mean AT&T can't tell I am tethering if I tether my wifi-only Android tablet via my phone since both of them are running Android OS?

eqt2010 said:
Does that mean AT&T can't tell I am tethering if I tether my wifi-only Android tablet via my phone since both of them are running Android OS?
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Only att knows for sure what they look for. They have not, nor will they ever, tell customers what they look fir to determine tethering. Browser agent is the best guess at this point.
With that set up you should avoid detection, but there are no guarantees.
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eqt2010 said:
Does that mean AT&T can't tell I am tethering if I tether my wifi-only Android tablet via my phone since both of them are running Android OS?
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Great question, my understanding was the browser identification method was one possible way to ping a person for tethering, but there were other possible methods available they could (more work for them perhaps) be using to track people. But nobody knows for sure.
If it is just the browser I would say you're much safer than a person tethering to a normal computer installation.
edit: Ha, quarlow beat me to it by a few min.

quarlow said:
Data is not part of your contract.
You are right, if they do in fact alter the terms of your contract you can terminate. But, by charging you for illegal tethering they are not altering your contract.
*#$% DATA IS NOT PART OF YOUR CONTRACT. YOU AGREED NOT TO TETHER. YOU VIOLATED THE TERMS NOT AT&T. %$#*
Data is not part of your contract.
I hope I said that enough.
Go ahead, continue tethering, and when they charge you for tethering, stop paying your bill. Report back how that works out for you.
Look up the Wireless Customer Agreement on AT&T's website. Section 6.2.
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I am not on AT&T nor am I a US law expert but the fact that you keep pointing out "You Agreed Not to Tether" seems to imply that there is a contract. Otherwise what exactly did you agree to. A contract does not have to be written as far as I can remember. If data is not part of a contract then I cannot violate any TOS because as you state there is no contract. Your voice and data may not belong to the same contract but I would bet that there is some sort of contract that governs your data and thus any laws regarding changing the Terms of a contract should apply.

Do NOT update to ICS yet

I was at a VZW center yesterday, and one of the reps (to who his credit, didn't sound like a complete idiot like a lot of the employees there.)
Anyway, he told me that if you have the $30 unlimited tethering promo that was optional for a short time when the Tbolt came out...once you update to ICS you will lose it.
I don't know if what the rep said was true or not, but just felt I should give anyone who might be in this situation a heads up.
Sorry, if this has already been mentioned, by the way...I just wanted to get it out there quickly.

That salesman's knowledge seems questionable
Fail on reading comprehension on my part...I read that as unlimited data not unlimited tethering. I thought they lost a court case recently where they couldn't charge for tethering anymore? (Found a link, can't post it, yay new user, but if you google "verizon court case tethering" you should find several articles about it) At any rate I imagine as long as you keep root they can't really stop you from tethering.

nuggetfn22004 said:
Fail on reading comprehension on my part...I read that as unlimited data not unlimited tethering. I thought they lost a court case recently where they couldn't charge for tethering anymore? (Found a link, can't post it, yay new user, but if you google "verizon court case tethering" you should find several articles about it) At any rate I imagine as long as you keep root they can't really stop you from tethering.
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Yeah with root, I don't think they can do anything about you tethering. I personally have used my rooted tethering for some really data-intensive power sessions--like 10-15GB a week while I was away (VZW was much faster than the local wifi at my hotel where I was doing after-hours work). Never heard a peep from Verizon about it.

They're allowed to provide their own paid tethering service, they just aren't allowed to force you to use that or use nothing. In other words, they can't tell you not to use a free app for the same thing.
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tm24fan8 said:
They're allowed to provide their own paid tethering service, they just aren't allowed to force you to use that or use nothing. In other words, they can't tell you not to use a free app for the same thing.
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I believe the actual compromise was that if you were on a tiered data plan, they weren't allowed to prevent you from tethering, and they can't prevent you from installing the app regardless, but they could prevent you from tethering if you are using one of the grandfathered "unlimited" plans?

They can't prevent you from using it nor can they even prove that you are using it. If they could I would have been charged thousands of dollars already since I've been using WiFi tether for about 4 years now.
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I know awhile back I mentioned to a verizon rep that they couldn't prove if I was tethering and he went on a long defensive rant about how they monitor your usage and if it spikes they know you are tethering. It took a lot of self-restraint to keep from laughing in his face. I guess they figure most people won't do outside research and just listen to whatever they're spoon fed by verizon.

I have unlimited data so that is a crock of ****. They can tell if I use a lot of data and that is about it. They can't tell if it resulted from tethering. 95% of my data usage comes from using my phone to download roms.
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I have unlimited data so that is a crock of ****. They can tell if I use a lot of data and that is about it. They can't tell if it resulted from tethering. 95% of my data usage comes from using my phone to download roms.
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Yeah, they just try to use scare tactics on people who don't know any better. Since tethering goes through the phone, it shows the same on their network regardless of whether its the phone or 10 other devices connected to the phone doing the downloading.

If you use their hot spot and it isn't the hacked version I think they can tell. I'm not sure though and wouldn't take that risk.
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disconnecktie said:
They can't prevent you from using it nor can they even prove that you are using it. If they could I would have been charged thousands of dollars already since I've been using WiFi tether for about 4 years now.
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The big fun will come when you get the letter saying, "We understand you've used thousands of dollars worth of tethering but we see you've failed to declare this as taxable income.
We figure you owe $xxx,xxx.xx plus interest and penalties.
Love ya, the IRS!

xs11e said:
The big fun will come when you get the letter saying, "We understand you've used thousands of dollars worth of tethering but we see you've failed to declare this as taxable income.
We figure you owe $xxx,xxx.xx plus interest and penalties.
Love ya, the IRS!
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Lol last time I checked the verizon corporation wasn't apart of the irs. Just saying....
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But you can bet the IRS keeps track of VZW AND VZW customers :crying:

xs11e said:
But you can bet the IRS keeps track of VZW AND VZW customers :crying:
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Nah maybe verizon but not me.
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Im a little confused, since im pretty new to the t-bolt since i bought it on ebay a few months ago. If i use a free tether app, will VZW NOT charge me for data? on my old moto x2 using a root tether app meant you still got charged for data, but not for the tethering service. Is this different on the TB?

ryan1407 said:
Im a little confused, since im pretty new to the t-bolt since i bought it on ebay a few months ago. If i use a free tether app, will VZW NOT charge me for data? on my old moto x2 using a root tether app meant you still got charged for data, but not for the tethering service. Is this different on the TB?
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If you're on a limited data plan, tethering uses your data. If you're on an unlimited plan you're supposed to pay a monthly fee to use tethering, however, there are apps that you can use to get around this.

Classic Verizon reps, think they're smarter than you... No I'm only here because I need a SIM card and corporate says you can't just give me a SIM card, you have to do it yourself.... Of course that's changed now, but boy that was a *****. I hate giving them my brand new phones, too, I've heard stories where they screw up the battery cover and such.
Woo rant!
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nuggetfn22004 said:
I guess they figure most people won't do outside research and just listen to whatever they're spoon fed by verizon.
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When paid by Verizon I assume one becomes a mouthpiece for Verizon, and it makes some logical sense for them to preach Verizon's sermons to all who aren't tech savvy.
That said, I did a doubletake on the OP, as I have the unlimited data and I sometimes tether while on the road (yay root). Tbh, I (ab)use an app called DropSync to do some crazy stuff with DropBox, and when I'm not on WiFi for a time it's common for me to rack up 10GB+ from just that. I really haven't got as much usage from my tethering. So if anyone from Verizon ever got after me for tethering, I'd just disable my WiFi and let them watch me push a ton thru my LTE, just to be spiteful. :victory:

Screw them tether away!!!!
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why not??
why not??i just flash santod stock ics last month..no problema at all...