How to Root Nexus S Without Wiping All Data? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm looking to root my NS to overclock and dab into the voodoo stuff (heard it can really improve sound and screen quality) but all the root methods I've seen will totally wipe the phone. I have a lot of valuable data on my phone along with data in games that I don't want to lose. Is there any method that doesn't wipe the phone clean? I'm on a Mac btw.

to my knowledge, no. when you unlock the boot loader, it wipes you clean.

tekkitan said:
to my knowledge, no. when you unlock the boot loader, it wipes you clean.
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+1 its a security measure

Arcadia310 said:
I'm looking to root my NS to overclock and dab into the voodoo stuff (heard it can really improve sound and screen quality) but all the root methods I've seen will totally wipe the phone. I have a lot of valuable data on my phone along with data in games that I don't want to lose. Is there any method that doesn't wipe the phone clean? I'm on a Mac btw.
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There is no known way to root without wiping. If you have any data you want to preserve, you can use cat or sd in terminal emulator (or perhaps adb shell) to copy the data files to the sdcard. Then backup the sdcard, as it too will be wiped. I can help you out with the commands to backup any apps that I have installed. Perhaps some one else who's rooted can give you the paths & filenames for your other paid apps.
Which apps are you looking to backup?

Maximilian Mary said:
There is no known way to root without wiping. If you have any data you want to preserve, you can use cat or sd in terminal emulator (or perhaps adb shell) to copy the data files to the sdcard. Then backup the sdcard, as it too will be wiped. I can help you out with the commands to backup any apps that I have installed. Perhaps some one else who's rooted can give you the paths & filenames for your other paid apps.
Which apps are you looking to backup?
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i would love your help with this, i got a replacement phone and i need to transfer data from one app. i have a mac and pc available

Gingerbreak, I did it.
2.3.2 or lower only

There is no way to NOT wipe but you can backup your data in several ways. Often when I have to change ROMs you need to wipe data as well, so I find apps to backup my apps (titanium backup) and other important data like texts and things.

jatoprieto said:
i would love your help with this, i got a replacement phone and i need to transfer data from one app. i have a mac and pc available
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Which app?

jwee5467 said:
There is no way to NOT wipe but you can backup your data in several ways. Often when I have to change ROMs you need to wipe data as well, so I find apps to backup my apps (titanium backup) and other important data like texts and things.
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Titanium backup requires root.
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Help with Nandroid

Hey all,
I've been searching everywhere in google as well as in XDA with no success. I am trying to do a full Nandroid backup (just like people are advising you to do when changing roms).
I currently have Clockwork 3.0.0 and am Rooted on stock. When I go into recovery, the only thing I have in regards to backup is just "backup" and no "Nandroid Backup" like people are saying all over the forums. Do I have to install something specific? I am puzzled! Is nandroid a method of backing up or the name of a program?
Also, when I backed up using Clockword >> Backup I found its only around 300mb so I assume it doesnt backup your SD content (i.e. pictures and videos + programs) as well? Is there a way to do a FULL image with literally everything?
Any help will be appreciated!
Hi...well backup sounds about right. Don't worry about whether it says nandroid or not. Mind doesn't. Just go ahead and do the backup.
And as for the SD card...well no need to worry there either because the SD contents do not get wiped out anyway, so there's no need for it to be backed up in the sameway.
Hope that helps.
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When I'm looking at the development section, it says that it will "WIPE ALL YOUR DATA". Doesn't this suggest I should also backup my pictures + videos?
Thanks for the help!
The only thing that wipes all your data and sdcard is a fastboot oem unlock, and it sounds like you're already past there. Flashing new roms and choosing "wipe data" in clockwork recovery does not touch your sdcard at all.
It's always a good idea to backup your photos and videos just in case. It only takes a few minutes and better to waste a few minutes than lose a precious irreplaceable video of the kid's first steps.
Nothing should wipe your sdcard other than the fastboot oem unlock, but that doesn't mean it can't be wiped by mistake. I just responded in another thread where the guy accidentally formatted his sdcard. Everything gone.
Better safe than sorry, in my opinion.
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
co0kie said:
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
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It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
distortedloop said:
It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
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So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
co0kie said:
So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
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Titanium will backup apps and data that are on the sdcard if you put them there with the apps2sd feature. It's smart that way. I'm talking about the apps that store settings and stuff (like Titanium itself, Launcher Pro, ADW, the gym log apps I've used, lots of games, etc) that put user data on the sdcard outside of the protected or apps2sd storage area on the sdcard.
I don't use an app for rsync, I just use the rsync command from the terminal on my Mac.
There's a couple of rsync apps on the Market. Someone mentioned using an app to rsync in one of the threads on here not too long ago. Here's an appbrain link to a search on the term rsync, it only shows two apps.
What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
co0kie said:
What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
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Yes, that's what I meant. It also covers just about all of the various apps to the sdcard hacks that various rom makers have implemented over the last year or two; certainly the popular ones like cyanogen and darktremor's versions.
If you get Titanium Pro, pay for the license. It will enable batch restore where all your apps can be restored at once without user intervention, otherwise I believe you have to okay each one individually.
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
co0kie said:
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
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If you move the app to the sd, the restore will put the app back in its location where it was during the backup. Just run a batch backup of all changed applications after moving anything around.
After you flash a new rom, just run a batch restore: apps and data only, usually not a good idea to restore system settings across different roms.

Will everything be gone

Well I no this is a noob question but I wanted to know if when you root your phone will you lose all of your data (apps,games,etc) and if you do will you have to download everthing again?
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Once u unlock ur bootloader it will do like a factory reset an delete everything so u may wanna backup everything to ur computer
Just to be a bit more clear than the prior post, you will lose EVERYTHING, including the contents on the sdcard (photos, videos, etc). Mount your phone to USB storage and backup anything you care about from the internal sdcard partition.
There's precious little you can do to save/restore data that's stored on the internal ROM space until you're rooted.
By the way, this has been discussed in multiple threads already. It's probably in the FAQ stickied at the top of the forum. as well. You might get more detailed ideas/answers with a quick search.
So how do you backup the sns to your computer
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mrnexus said:
So how do you backup the sns to your computer
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when your not rooted you cant get anything off /data/ which would be game saves and app data stuff.
but anything on the SD card just copy off like you normally would
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So how do you backup the sns to your computer
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I think there are Market apps that will let you backup/save you SMS messages, but I'm not sure they'll actually let you restore.
Check out the various apps at this link: http://www.appbrain.com/search?q=sms+backup

[Q] How to Backup my Data

I have been told I need to do a "Factory Data Reset" to a) clear out phantom crap-data from my built-in storage (now at 4% free space), and b) stop my phone from random double SMS posts.
I see several Market options for backup but none look very appealing nor do they guarantee to backup everything. Several require your phone to be rooted (mine isn't). Free apps don't backup everything and paid apps only back up the the SD Card but mine is nearly full.
Some on this forum say they can do it all by hand but I have no idea how.
Can't I just plug it into my laptop and move the files over?
This is my first Android phone and I would like to eventually ROOT the phone but I am not there yet. Perhaps this is the next step towards being comfortable doing that.
Some Market Apps, like MyBackup Pro, will back up to the "cloud" but at a price: MyBackup Pro comes with 50MB of free cloud storage, which you can upgrade to 250MB for $1 per month or 1GB for $2 per month.
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I have been told I need to do a "Factory Data Reset" to a) clear out phantom crap-data from my built-in storage (now at 4% free space), and b) stop my phone from random double SMS posts.
I see several Market options for backup but none look very appealing nor do they guarantee to backup everything. Free apps don't backup everything and paid apps only back up the the SD Card but mine is nearly full.
Some on this forum say they can do it all by hand but I have no idea how.
Can't I just plug it into my laptop and move the files over?
This is my first Android phone and I would like to eventually ROOT the phone but I am not there yet. Perhaps this is the next step towards being comfortable doing that.
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titanium backup pro works very well
tylermaciaszek said:
titanium backup pro works very well
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But doesn't that only work for ROOTED phones?
ncmacasl said:
But doesn't that only work for ROOTED phones?
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thats right sorry forgot you werent rooted
try this vv
http://free-mobile-messenger.com/2011/03/09/backup-everything-1-0-apk/
And that app only saves to the SD card. Mine is FULL
Where do you want to save it to? anywhere but the sdcard will be wiped in any sort of flashing, making it a useless backup. the only logical place to backup your data is your sdcard, and then copying that backup to your computer.
How do I safely move stuff off the SD Card to make more room for the backup?How much room will the backup take? Does the backup only backup the Phone storage or also the SD Storage? (FYI, I have Astro File Manager)
Backing up the sdcard would be an oxymoron, as trying to backup your sdcard to your sdcard would never work, that would be like trying to make 1 + something try to be less than 1. You can plug your phone in as a Mass Storage Device, which will use your phone essentially as a flash drive, and you can add or delete as you please. If you're worried about deleting something, copy it to your computer rather than deleting it outright. Backing up should take about 500 MB if you're using Nandroid, but you're not rooted, and I'm not familiar with the posted backup. Backing up without rooting is very difficult
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...Backing up without rooting is very difficult
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Yeah that is why I am posting. many of us non-root-ers want to be able to do this, and also, aren't you supposed to backup your system BEFORE you attempt to ROOT? How does everyone else do it??
OK So I Sideload everything from the SD Card to the laptop, then delete everything from the SD Card, then backup the phone storage stuff to the SD Card, then move THAT File/folder to the laptop.
Is that right??
Rooting is non-invasive, I've never backed up before rooting. Rooting just edits permissions on one file, which no non-rooted backup app can backup anyways.
If you wanted to backup that way, then yes, that would work, but if you're looking to backup before you root, I would say don't even bother, as it will not backup the phone system anyways, as no non-rooted app can do that.
If rooting is so "non-invasive" then why do you read so many warnings that if you don't do it **JUST RIGHT** you can totally BRICK your phone??
Also what do you mean by "not backup the phone system"?
Rooting can't brick your phone, flashing kernels and bootloaders can. The actual phone files, the operating system files, cannot be backed up by a non-rooted phone, as they are privileged. Rooting only installs the SuperUser.apk to manage super user rights, as well as changing the privileges on the system's super user binary so that you as a user can use it. all that to say, it's not a big deal to root, but what you do once you get root is what can cause issues. And if you brick yourself, no backup is going to help you, as by definition, bricking is beyond repair.

Best way to backup apps + data without root

Hi!
I'm going to wipe data and cache and I need to make a app + data backup without root.
Two only method I know are hellium and adb backup.
In the last device I owned Hellium doesn't work properly (I lost most apps and data). And using adb backup I'm not sure if it works perfectly or if it will improve device smoothness.
Do you recommend me a good way to backup apps with their data?
Thanks in advance.
Hello
Since you posted this in the Samsung S8 section, non whithstanding your signature, i am going to assume you have an S8.
I was wondering the same thing.
Would SmartSwitch not fullfil your backup needs?
Jay
magarto said:
Hi!
I'm going to wipe data and cache and I need to make a app + data backup without root.
Two only method I know are hellium and adb backup.
In the last device I owned Hellium doesn't work properly (I lost most apps and data). And using adb backup I'm not sure if it works perfectly or if it will improve device smoothness.
Do you recommend me a good way to backup apps with their data?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, I have a S8. I thought I posted it in the questions and answers forum.
I didn't know that with Smart Switch we can full backup apps and data and not only transferring them to a new Samsung device.
I hope that backups are encrypted.
Smart Switch does not restore everything.... Just like Helium (non-root) . Some apps prohibit backing up app data ???

Temporary Root or Root without Wipe? - Need to run root App

Hi Guys,
I wanted to root my phone temporarily so I can run this DiskDigger software (which I had used in the past with another phone with good results) that requires root in order to recover deleted photos.
Now if there was some sort of temporary root solution then that would be great as I don't actually want to root the phone properly mainly because I like to use some banking software that doesn't allow it...
If temp root is not possible then is a root without a data wipe possible? I am not entirely sure if my data will be lost by wiping the data partition as some of the files I want to recover also belonged in the secure folder app, which I think has its data stored in /mnt/secure but I am not 100% and I am also worried about the partition being re-encrypted again after a wipe, which could mean new encryption keys and I can't restore old files?
Any advice here is appreciated.
Thanks
I know the thread is old, but I want to backup some apps with data and no one solution (ad backup/restore is not working) like Titanium (but requires root) is working.
I'm looking to have a root shell with an exploit (like payloads on the consoles, or thethered jailbreak on iphone) so I can backup the data manually.
Any updates on this matter the last 2 years?
iq-dot said:
Hi Guys,
I wanted to root my phone temporarily so I can run this DiskDigger software (which I had used in the past with another phone with good results) that requires root in order to recover deleted photos.
Now if there was some sort of temporary root solution then that would be great as I don't actually want to root the phone properly mainly because I like to use some banking software that doesn't allow it...
If temp root is not possible then is a root without a data wipe possible? I am not entirely sure if my data will be lost by wiping the data partition as some of the files I want to recover also belonged in the secure folder app, which I think has its data stored in /mnt/secure but I am not 100% and I am also worried about the partition being re-encrypted again after a wipe, which could mean new encryption keys and I can't restore old files?
Any advice here is appreciated.
Thanks
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Also looking to this as I'm not looking to make changes on /system du to Dm-verity.
changes to /data are enough

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