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So, I was well informed from many different sources that the biggest drawback to the Thunderbolt was the horrendous battery life (people complaining in the 4 hour range). I came from a Samsung Fascinate, which would most of the time get me through the day, but just barely, and the Battery Use was almost always 70-80% screen (even at the lowest brightness). I primarily got the Thunderbolt for the possibility of 4G tethering, so the first thing I did was buy an external battery charger pack (extended battery was sold out).
Well, I've had it for a few days now and despite geeking out on the phone, tethering whenever I can, using it probably more than my Fascinate, I haven't had any issues with battery. I pulled it off charge about 8am this morning, it's currently 9:45pm, I've been using it pretty heavily all day, tethering on the train to work, using it at work, and using it the whole train ride home, and it's currently at 33% battery. 6:18:00 Awake time. Where is this horrendous battery life I heard about?
I'm not using any battery saving utilities (Juice defender etc), have it set to Auto Brightness, just letting it be on WiFi when WiFi is available. I'm using the bone stock HTC Android 2.2 that came with it, not root etc.
So far this phone has much better battery life than my Fascinate and I'm pretty impressed, especially since I believe it has a slightly smaller battery. If I check battery use today, it's 59% Display, with the next highest being 9% Cell Standby.
I haven't used it as a 4G hotspot for more than maybe 30 minutes at a time, but even then it doesn't seem to die too quickly. Am I just missing something that other people are doing that drains their batteries like crazy or is it just that I'm careful about not using stuff the indiscriminately uses 4G for no reason? (I removed all the auto updating widgets like the Friend Feed etc).
Anyone else had a similar experience?
Ummm, yah, well, it's just you...
JK... the battery is ok for me I haven't had it die on me yet but when ever I drive it goes in the charger so I'm sure that adds up.
Darthus said:
So, I was well informed from many different sources that the biggest drawback to the Thunderbolt was the horrendous battery life (people complaining in the 4 hour range). I came from a Samsung Fascinate, which would most of the time get me through the day, but just barely, and the Battery Use was almost always 70-80% screen (even at the lowest brightness). I primarily got the Thunderbolt for the possibility of 4G tethering, so the first thing I did was buy an external battery charger pack (extended battery was sold out).
Well, I've had it for a few days now and despite geeking out on the phone, tethering whenever I can, using it probably more than my Fascinate, I haven't had any issues with battery. I pulled it off charge about 8am this morning, it's currently 9:45pm, I've been using it pretty heavily all day, tethering on the train to work, using it at work, and using it the whole train ride home, and it's currently at 33% battery. 6:18:00 Awake time. Where is this horrendous battery life I heard about?
I'm not using any battery saving utilities (Juice defender etc), have it set to Auto Brightness, just letting it be on WiFi when WiFi is available. I'm using the bone stock HTC Android 2.2 that came with it, not root etc.
So far this phone has much better battery life than my Fascinate and I'm pretty impressed, especially since I believe it has a slightly smaller battery. If I check battery use today, it's 59% Display, with the next highest being 9% Cell Standby.
I haven't used it as a 4G hotspot for more than maybe 30 minutes at a time, but even then it doesn't seem to die too quickly. Am I just missing something that other people are doing that drains their batteries like crazy or is it just that I'm careful about not using stuff the indiscriminately uses 4G for no reason? (I removed all the auto updating widgets like the Friend Feed etc).
Anyone else had a similar experience?
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It's you.
Seriously though. Go to any one of the Thunderbolt forums or read any Thunderbolt review and you'll see the battery being discussed prominently. There is definitely an issue with it. Who knows what it is though..
The thing that really bothers me is the battery isnt consistently bad. Like the last two days Ive gotten 24 hours of use out of my phone. Normally that's unheard of.. but next week something will happen and it will be back to being dead within 6-8 hours with barely any use.
You are correct that this issue is oft-cited in regards to the TB. However, I think the 4 hour data points may be slightly exaggerated. I wound up buying the oem extended battery because I wasn't make it past 6.5 hours with regular use. I travel pretty far to get to work every day, switching between many towers over the course of my commute, constantly going from 4g to 3g to 1x and back. Besides the screen (which will be the biggest battery drain on any phone with a modern touchscreen) data should be your next highest drain, and the biggest variable you are capable of tweaking to change your battery performance. My 6.5 hour experience was with a pretty abusive data usage scenario, and I don't see many people inflicting much more upon the battery in actual, real-world use. That said, with the extended battery, the TB has the best battery life of any phone I have owned in the last five years, and I couldn't be happier.
I'm getting about 12 hours with pretty heavy use. Running BAMF 1.6.2 with kernel overclocked. I'm pretty happy with battery life...it's just as good as it was on my droid incredible.
I have learned thru experience that all HTC phones with 4.3 inches screens are bad at battery life. When I say bad, that's comparing it to a smaller less powerful device. But take in account all it does and to me battery is ok. I mean the HD2, and EVO when I owned them were battery hogs. But I always had a charge. Ppl want bigger and faster phones,Well there's a trade off until battery technology catches up, the bigger phones will consume more battery. Its like saying I want a better car more sporty and trendy but I don't want to pay that much. Not goin to happen.
With just 3G available to me and using everything stock...I get slightly better battery life than I did with my incredible that was on CM7. Compared to a stock incredible, much better. I'm a bit scared for when I do get 4G seeing all the posts though =)
Rooting gave me an extra 2% per hour usage. I can go 15 hours and still have 40% left on my battery. I'm happy with this battery.
Thunderbolt has better battery life than my Samsung Epic had. Stock, my battery wasnt all that great. However, changing some settings and finding a suitable kernel has helped with my battery life.
I have had the same experience. Coming from a Fascinate, the Thunderbolt is so much better on battery life. Mind you, I do not live in an LTE area. This is what I do:
- Juice Defender (Balanced settings)
- Brightness - half way
- GPS only on when I need it
- Wifi on almost 100% of the time (at home and work I use only wifi)
- Non-Rooted
I even have 100+ apps installed including leaving Google Talk and Yahoo Messenger on almost 24/7. I have about 8 or 9 widgets as well. Most that pull info.
The terrible battery life comes when the phone tries to hold a bad 4g signal drains the battery at an insane amount. If you're in strong signal expect much better battery life but because 4g is so new I expect a lot of people to be in areas with low 4g signal as Verizon has not even turned up 85-90% of the towers past 45% power.
I've had the TB for 3 days now and am coming from a rooted Eris (running xtr rom). I have noticed that with the same amount of usage I am also getting better battery life on the stock TB than I did on my Eris. I am in an area that does not have 4G so I have that turned off.
afallucco said:
The terrible battery life comes when the phone tries to hold a bad 4g signal drains the battery at an insane amount. If you're in strong signal expect much better battery life but because 4g is so new I expect a lot of people to be in areas with low 4g signal as Verizon has not even turned up 85-90% of the towers past 45% power.
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where did you get this info about the power of the towers? btw what power do they normally work at? 100W?
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The terrible battery life comes when the phone tries to hold a bad 4g signal drains the battery at an insane amount. If you're in strong signal expect much better battery life but because 4g is so new I expect a lot of people to be in areas with low 4g signal as Verizon has not even turned up 85-90% of the towers past 45% power.
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I'd love to see some sources backing this info up.
When I bought my TB I left the store with the extended battery in. The battery easily lasts me all day. After reading all the complaints about how bad the stock battery is I decided to try using it and I'm actually surprised by how long it lasts. I was expecting much worse. It's easily lasted me 8-12 hours with my normal everyday use. I'm going to stick to the stock battery from now on. I was getting annoyed by the heft and bulkiness of the extended battery. My phone feels so sleek with the stock one.
Yeah, I'm with the "it's just you" crowd.
Pretty bad battery life for me here in NYC (plenty of good 4G around).
Not a heavy data user (less than 20min browsing per day).
Not a lot of long calls.
Accounts update once every hour (FB, 2 email accounts).
Brightness at min.
No video playing, no music playing.
No speakerphone used.
Rooted, BAMF 1.3.2
GPS and WiFi rarely on at all.
I'm lucky, --LUCKY--, if I get like 6 hours out of a fully charged battery.
daniel178 said:
Yeah, I'm with the "it's just you" crowd.
Pretty bad battery life for me here in NYC (plenty of good 4G around).
Not a heavy data user (less than 20min browsing per day).
Not a lot of long calls.
Accounts update once every hour (FB, 2 email accounts).
Brightness at min.
No video playing, no music playing.
No speakerphone used.
Rooted, BAMF 1.3.2
GPS and WiFi rarely on at all.
I'm lucky, --LUCKY--, if I get like 6 hours out of a fully charged battery.
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Just curious, why are you still using BAMF 1.3.2?
running Bamf 1.6.1 and Imoseyon Lean Kernal set at 1.4Ghz with SetCPU on Smartass, along with ATK set to kill every 30 mins(oh I know they are the devil, yet my battery life is always better with one, so no comments about how they are bad.) I also always have 4G on, and usually fluctuate between -82 to -94dB in signal strength, and wifi is never on, as my home network is strained enough as it is. GPS is always off unless I need it.
I also use WPClock Live Wallpaper at the same time.
Yesterday I was at 18% with 2 days since last plugged in.
Of course I also calibrated my battery, after flashing Bamf 1.6.1.
I use my phone alot for facebook, angry birds, browsing the web and a crap ton of texting, I probably hit near 1000 text a month, I know that isn't what the high school brats are pulling, but still, for me, that is insane.
On my Evo 4G, with 4G off, I could hit 3 days running CM7 underclocked to 750Mhz max. That was with a bigger battery as well.
I am very exited for CM7 to go into a beta, or nightly stage, and the kinks worked out, as I am sure with 4G on I can hit near 3 days with the Thunderbolt as well.
nosympathy said:
running Bamf 1.6.1 and Imoysen Lean Kernal set at 1.4Ghz with SetCPU on Smartass, along with ATK set to kill every 30 mins(oh I know they are the devil, yet my battery life is always better with one, so no comments about how they are bad.) I also always have 4G on, and usually fluctuate between -82 to -94dB in signal strength, and wifi is never on, as my home network is strained enough as it is.
Yesterday I was at 18% with 2 days since last plugged in.
Of course I also calibrated my battery, after flashing Bamf 1.6.1.
I use my phone alot for facebook, angry birds, browsing the web and a crap ton of texting, I probably hit near 1000 text a month, I know that isn't what the high school brats are pulling, but still, for me, that is insane.
On my Evo 4G, with 4G off, I could hit 3 days running CM7 underclocked to 750Mhz max. That was with a bigger battery as well.
I am very exited for CM7 to go into a beta, or nightly stage, and the kinks worked out, as I am sure with 4G on I can hit near 3 days with the Thunderbolt as well.
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Update your sig, brah. Still says your running Tesla Coil.
Overall battery life is a lot better than my cm7 Incredible, and on mostly standby it lasted quite awhile before I had to charge it (I couldn't use it for a few days because vzw wonked up on activating my TB somehow), so it lasted almost 3 days with only occasional data use/seeing if the phone was working (I couldn't send texts or make/receive calls, but my data was working)
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Update your sig, brah. Still says your running Tesla Coil.
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I know, I am a lazy ass, haha.
i'm thinking about getting the HtC inspire 4g. hows the batt life if you turn off 3g, wifi, push mail, gps, and set brightness to 30%?
I don't turn anything off and have been getting a full day with 6+ hours of screen on time. Running gtg's ace Rom and capy's kingdom. Thoroughly impressed with the gingerbread Rom performance.
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I don't turn anything off and have been getting a full day with 6+ hours of screen on time. Running gtg's ace Rom and capy's kingdom. Thoroughly impressed with the gingerbread Rom performance.
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hi, newter.. thanks for replying. thats impressive. so i guess that if you turn off wifi, 3g, push mail, etc, i'm sure batt life would be 2 days with moderate use.
also, can you tell me how i can unlock this phone on tmobile?
Rooting gives sim unlock.
Just use the hack kit. It will sim unlock, root, and s-off for you.
I should note that my usage may not be typical as I use few minutes using it as an actual phone. Web, text, xda, music, some email, and a few games are what I use it for.
I was able to pull 3.5 days out of Cyanogen 7.0.2 with the LorDmod kernel and Pinky Undervolt scripts. I have K-9 set to check three mail accounts that get a fair amount of traffic with push notifications, leave it in HSUPA mode, and my brightness hasn't budged off "automatic".
I'm currently trying dilligaf's AOSP+CM hybrid with the Pinky Ultra Undervolt and have been getting some really good results so far. I'm currently at 93% after being on the battery for 12 hours.
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Completely stock, the battery wasn't that bad but it would need to be plugged in to the charger at the end of the day, generally lasting around 15 hours.
what does unlocking the sim do??
Better than my epic
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helushune said:
I was able to pull 3.5 days out of Cyanogen 7.0.2 with the LorDmod kernel and Pinky Undervolt scripts. I have K-9 set to check three mail accounts that get a fair amount of traffic with push notifications, leave it in HSUPA mode, and my brightness hasn't budged off "automatic".
I'm currently trying dilligaf's AOSP+CM hybrid with the Pinky Ultra Undervolt and have been getting some really good results so far. I'm currently at 93% after being on the battery for 12 hours.
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Completely stock, the battery wasn't that bad but it would need to be plugged in to the charger at the end of the day, generally lasting around 15 hours.
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THIS. And wow, holy smokes I'm going to look into some undervolting. Currently running gtg's aosp which is incredible as it is on battery.
P00t said:
what does unlocking the sim do??
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Allow the phone to be used with another carrier.
i can go three days with three hours of screen time with TPGB-CM20110509, actually a prior version, but this one fixes an MMS problem, and current widget throws up similar numbers, so well see.
Using custom ROM packages greatly trim the fat (bloat) off and drastically increase efficiency equaling much better battery life...Rooting / flashing ROMs has been the greatest feature coming from jailbreaking iPhones...I'd never go back
Streaming, all day. I get about 6 hours .. else with internet and games and just instaling uninstalling and general playing around I get 10 plus hours.. I never use it as a phone.
with everything like described in the OP, ive gotten 24 hours out of the phone with phone calls here and there. if you turn off all that stuff, you can eek out 1-3% battery drain/hour. it's pretty good and almost always lasts me the whole day
Running stock out the box i had 12-14 hours of battery life. Loads of texting through out the day and playing a few games, on the web, gps here and there, and some phone calls. I have my brightness at 0% if not at 40% during the day with everything else off unless I need to switch it on for something.
With custom rom I get around the same battery life but with heavier usage. Texting all day long while playing games for a few hours, then theres navagation use, phone calls, emails and notifications from apps. So either way you should get good battery life.
Mine got better after I rooted and installed the Saga ROM.
Saga isn't being updated so I just installed Ace.
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Running stock out the box i had 12-14 hours of battery life. Loads of texting through out the day and playing a few games, on the web, gps here and there, and some phone calls. I have my brightness at 0% if not at 40% during the day with everything else off unless I need to switch it on for something.
With custom rom I get around the same battery life but with heavier usage. Texting all day long while playing games for a few hours, then theres navagation use, phone calls, emails and notifications from apps. So either way you should get good battery life.
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hi, numpangx, thanks for replying. lets say that i install gingerbread on it and turn off wifi, push notifications, gps, weather, play no games, and reduce brightnss to 30%. but make calls. do you think i would be able to get 2 days of batt life?
helushune said:
I was able to pull 3.5 days out of Cyanogen 7.0.2 with the LorDmod kernel and Pinky Undervolt scripts. I have K-9 set to check three mail accounts that get a fair amount of traffic with push notifications, leave it in HSUPA mode, and my brightness hasn't budged off "automatic".
I'm currently trying dilligaf's AOSP+CM hybrid with the Pinky Ultra Undervolt and have been getting some really good results so far. I'm currently at 93% after being on the battery for 12 hours.
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Completely stock, the battery wasn't that bad but it would need to be plugged in to the charger at the end of the day, generally lasting around 15 hours.
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wow helushune thats excellent! 3.5 days on the htc inspire with that droid rom.. i should install that then. so with heavy use, calling for an 1.5 hours, playing a game, and nothing else, i'm sure you yourself would get 2 days batt life? am i right?
My stock Inspire goes from about 9 am to about 3 am with heavy use, I end up with 15% -/+ at the end of the day.
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wow helushune thats excellent! 3.5 days on the htc inspire with that droid rom.. i should install that then. so with heavy use, calling for an 1.5 hours, playing a game, and nothing else, i'm sure you yourself would get 2 days batt life? am i right?
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One of the biggest killers of the battery life is the massive screen and backlight. I haven't done any heavy usage testing as I'm seeing what kind of battery life I can get out of dilligaf's AOSP+CM hybrid rom with an undervolt script.
I did make a few phone calls and I think I played Rocket Bunnies/ran a few speed tests when I got the 3.5 days. There's also a pretty big dip around the 60% mark where I re-installed CM and flashed a new kernel as well. But I generally use my phone to respond to text messages and email and that'll kill the battery faster than spending the equivalent time making a phone call.
So I just switched from a rooted Evo to a Charge. I rooted it on day one and have had what I consider to be poor battery life. With everything off except mobile data, I'm losing about 5% per hour just idling. My Evo would lose 1% an hour or less when running AOSP roms an little more with sense roms.
I took my phone off the charger around 9 this morning. I've sent 50 texts, maybe a few more. My battery is as 52% right now. Maybe I expected too much, but I didn't get a TB because of the crappy battery life.
Right now I'm running Gummycharged 1.8.1 with the standard kernel that it came with. I don't have 4g here so I have that auto search turned off as well.
Is normal or should I unroot and bring the phone in?
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So I just switched from a rooted Evo to a Charge. I rooted it on day one and have had what I consider to be poor battery life. With everything off except mobile data, I'm losing about 5% per hour just idling. My Evo would lose 1% an hour or less when running ASOP roms an little more with sense roms.
I took my phone off the charger around 9 this morning. I've sent 50 texts, maybe a few more. My battery is as 52% right now. Maybe I expected too much, but I didn't get a TB because of the crappy battery life.
Right now I'm running Gummycharged 1.8.1 with the standard kernel that it came with. I don't have 4g here so I have that auto search turned off as well.
Is normal or should I unroot and bring the phone in?
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From my day to day use, this sounds about right. You have 4G kn right? Not 3G? If on 4G this sounds totally accurate from my experience.
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I get roughly 19 hours on a charge with my thunderbolt..so not sure what you ment there...anyway it looks like you are getting 8-10 hours.. that's normal
I get anywhere from 8-10 hours of heavy use, when I say heavy I mean it, music and browsing the web at the same time, calls and browsing the web at the same time, txting, skype, email.. but keep in mind while I do have the stock battery I kill EVERY task and clear RAM whenever I set my phone down, the biggest killer of battery life is just tasks running in the background, remember this phone has a built in task killer, even when rooted & ROM'd.
Another tip would be to keep a spare battery in your wallet, when I stay over at a friends and don't have my charger or I just need a quick full charge I just pull out my wallet and switch the batteries, it's only like $10-$20 for a spare battery depending on where you get it.
If you want longer battery life, you left on the only one that is key to saving the battery !! If you are just in standby or just using the telephone and textings, turn off mobile data, that is the power sucker. Turn it on as needed. Even if you are in a 3G area, the LTE chip stays powered up and this is a big drain.
My phone will last the weekend using this method.
What actually drains the battery is having your screen on. Look at your battery stats in your settings. That will show you what is killing your battery the most and then you can adjust what is needed
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Using Faux rom (Kernal version 2.6.32.41-CM7-Faux123-v0.2.3)
I was able to get a crazy amount of life out of the G2x! Anyone else able to get some times like this?
When I first got the phone it would only get about 4 hours.
i've been on 11 hours, Nexus AOSP, and am at 85%
With SetCPU and underclocking when idle or on calls?
Is Juice Defender involved?
Exclusively on GSM?
Are Auto Sync and GPS off at all times?
Please provide context.
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With SetCPU and underclocking when idle or on calls?
Is Juice Defender involved?
Exclusively on GSM?
Are Auto Sync and GPS off at all times?
Please provide context.
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Yes, setcpu and some UC, phone goes to min processor on screen off
Juice defender set to standard
data set to auto
auto sync gmail, gps only on demand
note today was a very, very light day of use. Yesterday I used it moderately, checking emails, maybe a call or two and several hours of music and was at 50% after about 14 hours.
Zspy1985 said:
Using Faux rom (Kernal version 2.6.32.41-CM7-Faux123-v0.2.3)
I was able to get a crazy amount of life out of the G2x! Anyone else able to get some times like this?
When I first got the phone it would only get about 4 hours.
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I have tried virtually every ROM and kernel combination for the G2X and for my phone and usage pattern I have had the best luck when I returned back to CM7, currently RC1 without OC/UV kernels, without SetCPU/PimpMyCPU, and without Juice Defender, or any similar such programs. My gains appear to be achieved by better efficiency with the screen off. The only modification that can be responsible other than CM7 itself is that I have the phone 2G only unless I need 4g at which times I turn it on manually. I think this is the actual cause of most of my better battery life.
Recently I went 32 hours of light usage (maybe an estimated 3 hours of phone calls and 2 hours of actually performing some task in Android) and was at about 35% battery life (although I believe battery percent is totally meaningless on this or any GB Rom for the G2X). I can easily make it sun-up to sundown with moderate to heavy usage unless it involves lengthy playing 3d video games or similar cpu/video intensive tasks.
When I first had the phone (completely stock) the battery would run out before 8 hours even if I didn't use it at all. I think I was getting great battery life with the AOSP ROM (Faux) and Eaglesblood ROM without modification. I am came back to CM7 rather than those others for purely aesthetic reasons.
My conclusions are merely based upon extensive trial and error and subjective impressions. I am not an expert at anything, except perhaps backgammon, lol
2g only is not a fix in my opinion. I purchased a 4g phone for a reason. The software and drivers are still an issue. I get a solid day (12 - 16 hours) out of a single full charge with 3 email acounts checking every 30 min. Surfing the web and a little game play for fun. The screen is the biggest draw on the battery. My battery monitor shows a direct corolation to battery draw and the screen on.
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2g only is not a fix in my opinion. I purchased a 4g phone for a reason. The software and drivers are still an issue. I get a solid day (12 - 16 hours) out of a single full charge with 3 email acounts checking every 30 min. Surfing the web and a little game play for fun. The screen is the biggest draw on the battery. My battery monitor shows a direct corolation to battery draw and the screen on.
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I understand your point, but how often are you actually using 4g. It is not necessary for syncing email or other background tasks, in fact on my phone Pandora runs the same on 2g as 4g. And when you do need the performance of 4g it is 2 clicks away, one swipe to pull down the notifications and another to toggle from 2g to 4g. It connects in about 10 seconds, for me anyway a shorter period of time than it takes me to figure out what I'm doing. 4g appears to be the biggest battery draw with screen off. If you use JuiceDefender you can program it to turn on 4g whenever particular programs are launched.
You are right about the screen it is certainly the biggest draw with screen on. I run a bike computer with gps program. I run it with screen at full bright constantly on, gps running, plus using whatever small amount of use the program uses to operate. At this rate the battery runs out before 4 hours are up.
Oddly making phone calls appears not to drain the phone at all compared to other activities. I've taken my phone of the charger and made a 1.5 hour phone call and hang up and the phone is still at 99%.
23 hours and counting on this charge...
i can get that time on my stock rom one time my phone lasted 1 day 15hrs on stock rom.
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i can get that time on my stock rom one time my phone lasted 1 day 15hrs on stock rom.
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I have no doubt, there is nothing inherently wrong with the stock rom as long as you root it and get rid of the bloatware. Getting bad battery life is more a matter of something being wrong, instead of a particular rom being right.
I don't really understand the battery info built into Android, my uptime right now is just over 16 hours and I am at 25%. Which is good as anyone can expect with normal usage. But what is confusing is the usage breakdown, it lists most items at exactly 19%, Cell Standby, Wi-Fi, Dialer, Android System, and Phone idle. Voice calls is the only other item at 6%.
What the heck is Dialer doing with 19% of my battery!?!?
16 hours so far with 20% left.
8 hours of that was while I was sleeping.
While there was some screen-off time for the other 8 hours, the tasks I was doing included redownloading ALL of my apps manually, applying themes, configuring widgets, browsing xda, email, light texting, and a couple short calls.
I am running CM7 with stock kernal. I have like 40 widgets running (probably an exaggeration). I'm running Juice Defender set to disable data/wifi when screen turns off, and enable it for 2min every 15 min. I also have setcpu running. I increased the min to 456 instead of the default 216 because it seems to keep me from experiencing the black screen of death when I leave it higher. My screen-off profile is 456/456, and my in-call profile is 608/608.
Overall, considering that I keep all syncs set to auto so I get instant notifications of gmail and sms, and it takes all of about 3 seconds to turn the data/wifi back on when I turn the screen on, and I don't have to constantly go back and forth messing with 2g/3g. I am extremely pleased with this phone now.
Been unplugged since I woke up this morning...13H 57M and have 40% left.
That's sending many texts, tweets, and using the GPS app for my round of golf today.
currently at 2 days (actually 1d, 23h, 44m) and I still have 30% left. I would say light to moderate use.
Currently running cm7 on nightly 65 with the stock kernal. No setcpu/pimpmycpu or any juice defenders.
I purchased the Droid Charge based on the Engadget review of the device. In particular, I wanted a device that could get on the LTE network AND have great battery life. This excerpt sold me:
When it comes to battery life, there's no competition. The Charge blitzed through a full day of what we'd consider typical use, coming off the charger at about 9am and not getting slotted back in again until 9pm the next night. Yes, you read that right, two working days of what we'd consider average use with GPS and WiFi on, taking pictures and videos, all powered by a single 1,600mAh battery. Granted, we weren't running our performance benchmarks at the time, but we were hammering the LTE antenna to get some speed results.
I expected to get, at a minimum, a full day's charge using LTE on this device, considering I live in an area where LTE isn't hard to come by (Los Angeles). Alas, I was sorely disappointed when my battery drained within 5 hours with minimal use. 5 hours!!! How can Engadget claim it will last for two days and that "there's no competition." It's totally misleading. The Droid Charge has a serious battery issue which nobody can seem to get to the bottom of. I even tried installing the latest Gingerbread rom to ameliorate the issue, but to no avail. Has anyone gotten a full day's use out of the device when on the LTE network?
Stockmoose16 said:
Has anyone gotten a full day's use out of the device when on the LTE network?
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I just got back from a full day's use on 4G with GPS on, WiFi on and Exchange and Gmail pushing mail as needed. I did not, however, text at all. One of my pages has an IP camera app that updates three feeds (snapshots) at least every five minutes. I am in a pretty consistent 4G area except when I'm at home (Philladelphia suburbs by my home is in a geographically challenged location)!
The phone just turned off as it dropped below 2% so I can't give any battery stats; I've been following the battery recalibration procedure listed here.
Keep the faith...you may not reach two days but you should be able to get a lot more than 5 hours!
rmanaka said:
I just got back from a full day's use on 4G with GPS on, WiFi on and Exchange and Gmail pushing mail as needed. I did not, however, text at all. One of my pages has an IP camera app that updates three feeds (snapshots) at least every five minutes. I am in a pretty consistent 4G area except when I'm at home (Philladelphia suburbs by my home is in a geographically challenged location)!
The phone just turned off as it dropped below 2% so I can't give any battery stats; I've been following the battery recalibration procedure listed here.
Keep the faith...you may not reach two days but you should be able to get a lot more than 5 hours!
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Out of curiosity, which ROM are you using to get this kind of battery life? I just installed the latest Gingerbread leak and my phone is leaking battery at a rate of 15-20% per hour. I saw that re-calibration post, but I'm wondering if I can simply charge my phone to 100% and place the same ROM on top of the one I already installed. Just want to make sure I don't brick my phone.
Any thoughts?
If you wondering if you can just replace your current COM with the same one you are using by just replacing the files on the SD card then yes you can. If you're asking about re-flashing the same ROM over it again without wiping during the calibration then you can. It shouldn't harm anything.
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If you wondering if you can just replace your current COM with the same one you are using by just replacing the files on the SD card then yes you can. If you're asking about re-flashing the same ROM over it again without wiping during the calibration then you can. It shouldn't harm anything.
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I've already installed the latest Gingerbread ROM and updated all my apps and widgets on the device. Can I now charge the device to 100%, bump charge a couple of times (per the instructions in another post on the board), and then restart and wipe the battery stats in recovery mode? Or, do I have to charge to 100% and then completely reinstall the same exact ROM on top of the one I just installed?
Stockmoose.
5 hours? That's questionable that you only got 5 hours with minimal use. No Engadget did not lie, and until the 1700 mah phones are released the end of the month, there is no comparison.
Only with Altered Beast and heavy use was I able to kill the battery in under 8 hours. So I would chalk it up to a bad battery. Not everything is perfect.
Gingerbread is a leak, so trying to compare it to the stock rom does you no good.
You can wipe the battery cache without having to re-flash everything again.
Agreed, I was heavily influenced by the Engadget review and was seriously disappointed when I struggle to get a day's worth of usage out of the stock ROM on 4G.
The Gingerbread leaks have some serious battery issues. I reccomend flashing Humble v1.3 (Froyo) and undervolting. Best battery life by far. I can hammer the LTE radio for a few hours straight.
As a side note, all of Verizon's current 4G Android offerings have awful battery life due to having the dual CDMA and LTE radios. That being said, the Charge evidently has the best life out of the three of them. Future phones (when Verizon dumps CDMA altogether in favor of LTE) will have way better life.
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Agreed, I was heavily influenced by the Engadget review and was seriously disappointed when I struggle to get a day's worth of usage out of the stock ROM on 4G.
The Gingerbread leaks have some serious battery issues. I reccomend flashing Humble v1.3 (Froyo) and undervolting. Best battery life by far. I can hammer the LTE radio for a few hours straight.
As a side note, all of Verizon's current 4G Android offerings have awful battery life due to having the dual CDMA and LTE radios. That being said, the Charge evidently has the best life out of the three of them. Future phones (when Verizon dumps CDMA altogether in favor of LTE) will have way better life.
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Curious while running Humble v1.3 and undervolting which kernel are you running atm. And second what undervoltage settings are your using atm currently so yo uare getting random reboots. Reaosn I ask is I just flashed v1.3 this am and updated to Imnut's newest OC kernel but have left it alone right now without touching any voltage settings. So any input would be great and I'd like to set mine nad check it out to see if I can get even better battery life out of it. Thanks
Pro tip: Never buy anything based solely on one review.
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Curious while running Humble v1.3 and undervolting which kernel are you running atm. And second what undervoltage settings are your using atm currently so yo uare getting random reboots. Reaosn I ask is I just flashed v1.3 this am and updated to Imnut's newest OC kernel but have left it alone right now without touching any voltage settings. So any input would be great and I'd like to set mine nad check it out to see if I can get even better battery life out of it. Thanks
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This should help.
I get about 12 hours with minimal to moderate usage throughout the day 4G, wifi/gps off for the majority. I might have to try this bump charging, though. Would be incredible to get a solid day out of this thing.
9 hours of using my phone to check XDA post, playing bubble buster, and texting and my phone is at 77%. Only thing different on my phone is i'm using SetCPU to undervolt. But even with that. if you are only getting 6 hours with minor use. There is something wrong.
I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
I did the battery charging cycles as mentioned above and erased the battery stats last night. Now I'm down to 20% after 6 hours of light use. That's pretty much the same way as before. What did I do wrong?
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I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
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Not a chance I'll say bull**** that is for sure. When leaving the device on Wifi battery life will DRASTICALLY increase. The radio in the device is what is eating it up. If you want to conserve even more battery I've found and don't ask me why if you actually turn off Mobile data and then turn Wifi on it will help even more.
Ran a test last night and with over 7hrs on Wifi it dropped on 5%
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I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
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I've gotten 24 hours with about 20% to spare going in and out of Wifi and 4G. I had 3 gmail accounts sync'd to the phone and I probably streamed about 20 minutes worth of music using Google Music. But, I probably used the phone for a combined total of 1.5 hours over that period, and it was a slow day, so I actually didn't get many emails.
I think I was using one of the Froyo Gummy ROMs.
I don't think it's very fair to use custom ROMs and then complain about battery life. Was your battery life lower than 5 hours on the stock ROM? Did you even use the stock ROM?
06ms6 said:
I don't think it's very fair to use custom ROMs and then complain about battery life. Was your battery life lower than 5 hours on the stock ROM? Did you even use the stock ROM?
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Try reading more than skimming the OP. He implied that he started stock there, and about 3 posts down said that it was ridiculous that even the stock ROM couldn't get 5 hours.
doodlebro said:
Try reading more than skimming the OP. He implied that he started stock there, and about 3 posts down said that it was ridiculous that even the stock ROM couldn't get 5 hours.
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My apologies, I misread his second to last sentence in the OP.
Either way, 5 hours is not normal and I wouldn't blame the Charge just yet. Not sure if you guys have official 2.3 yet (I'm a Thunderbolt owner myself), but I know the Froyo ROMs on the TB have a very noticeable increase in battery life compared to the Gingerbread leak builds.
I get about 6-8 hours of heavy use on my 2.3 ROM on the TB. Probably closer to 13+ with Froyo.