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Is there any 1 click root apps for the thunderbolt yet like universal root or z4 type app?
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No. There are "easy" root apps for Windows (and some scripts for Mac/Linux) available...
I am not sure if there will be a one-click app for quite some time. If you read the process for rooting you will understand that you are required to downgrade the firmware in order to obtain permanent root (through an exploit).
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
dsvoda said:
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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I disagree. I understand and believe that people should learn what they are doing before they begin but there are some people out there who just want to remove bloat. Nothing else. And for those people, I think a 1 click root should be available. I went through probably 2 or 3 hours learning how and why to do the root method on this phone after doing the same thing on my old phone (Droid X) because I plan on doing so much with it I want to know exactly what is going on. People like me, should go through the comprehensive root so we have far less "I flashed ____ and bricked my phone what do I do?!?!?!?!1" but for people who just want to remove bloat or use tethering should once again not have to spend hours figuring out what adb is/does.
And even if everyone in the community learns the "technichal" stuff many of them aren't going to help out anyone else. They are going to root, ROM, and GTFO.
miketoasty said:
I disagree. I understand and believe that people should learn what they are doing before they begin but there are some people out there who just want to remove bloat. Nothing else. And for those people, I think a 1 click root should be available. I went through probably 2 or 3 hours learning how and why to do the root method on this phone after doing the same thing on my old phone (Droid X) because I plan on doing so much with it I want to know exactly what is going on. People like me, should go through the comprehensive root so we have far less "I flashed ____ and bricked my phone what do I do?!?!?!?!1" but for people who just want to remove bloat or use tethering should once again not have to spend hours figuring out what adb is/does.
And even if everyone in the community learns the "technichal" stuff many of them aren't going to help out anyone else. They are going to root, ROM, and GTFO.
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All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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dsvoda said:
All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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I wasn't arguing with you just as you said I was stating my opinion.
And the difference between running through an hour long rooting process and a 20 minute 1 click root is, well it's quite obvious what the difference is. Also, we know nothing is perfect that's why everything out there (ROMs, kernels, rooting methods, etc) all have liability warnings, the same as 1 click roots.
dsvoda said:
All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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I don't really have a desire to learn ADB so I won't, but I will still root my phone.
Actually, if I absolutely HAD to learn to use ADB to root, I probably would, then I would promptly forget what I've learned since I'd probably never use it again, until it came time to root my next phone. So I don't see the point, just respectfully disagreeing and sharing my opinion
I use a MAC and a PC and I've built PC's, but I really don't care to learn how all the background s/ware stuff works, but I can add components like a mad-woman.
Thats exactly what I want to do. Just remove the tons of crap that came built in. A one click root solution would be a lifesaver.
The current root methods are way too complicated for me.
yumms said:
Thats exactly what I want to do. Just remove the tons of crap that came built in. A one click root solution would be a lifesaver.
The current root methods are way too complicated for me.
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would this help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292
dsvoda said:
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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Yeah, totally... and we should stop using push button car ignitions and even key starts. People should have to poor gas in their carburetors and hand pump up the pressure and crack start it. This way people will better understand how the engine works in case they need to work on it after a break down.
What about lighters and stoves!? 1 click to start a fire, wtf? 2 stick method I say, do people even realize what fire is and where it comes from these days?
Than there's Velcro shoes... omg!
hogowner said:
would this help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292
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Thanks for that. The second link looks promising. I'll need to try that tonight.
For the love of God... not another effing debate about one-click solutions and learning ADB. Noob this, noob that... developer this, developer that.
The ultimate point is that nobody is entitled to anything... but once a solution has been developed in an open community, nobody is prohibited from using it based upon their level of experience.
I personally feel that it is beneficial to know how the root method works, but there are people who could care less and just want to root their device without fully understanding the process/risks/technicalities.
The bottom line is that they are free to do this and they are "allowed" to use one-click root solutions without having technical knowledge or understanding what ADB is!
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Well what good is root at this point? The radio has issues, the camcorder app is bunked, txt app is wishy washy, ringtones for specific contacts switches, etc. I am waiting on root at this point! I have rooted every android phone I have had and this one just seems to flake with root at this time. I still don't understand wth it's doing! If I had a clue, I would write a one click. Just makes it less of a head ache if you have more than one tb to do. And you won't have noobs pop up asking wth did I do wrong. And yes I'm a noob too, but I also read b4 I venture into the unknown. I still say if u wanna learn go buy a book and if ya don't understand it then ask. Why not just put a noob section on each device forum? Let people help the ones that can't do it on their own. Heck make it a mandatory $10 donation fee if ya gotta have someone show you what to do. Seems like no one here has ever had to ask for help. I fix my father's car, not because I really want to. Just because if he does it, it won't ever run again. He ain't got a clue! Some people just aren't able to understand things like others. Be nice and quit bashing noobs.
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hammer4203 said:
Well what good is root at this point? The radio has issues, the camcorder app is bunked, txt app is wishy washy, ringtones for specific contacts switches, etc. I am waiting on root at this point! I have rooted every android phone I have had and this one just seems to flake with root at this time. I still don't understand wth it's doing! If I had a clue, I would write a one click. Just makes it less of a head ache if you have more than one tb to do. And you won't have noobs pop up asking wth did I do wrong. And yes I'm a noob too, but I also read b4 I venture into the unknown. I still say if u wanna learn go buy a book and if ya don't understand it then ask. Why not just put a noob section on each device forum? Let people help the ones that can't do it on their own. Heck make it a mandatory $10 donation fee if ya gotta have someone show you what to do. Seems like no one here has ever had to ask for help. I fix my father's car, not because I really want to. Just because if he does it, it won't ever run again. He ain't got a clue! Some people just aren't able to understand things like others. Be nice and quit bashing noobs.
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Even rooting w/o flashing a new custom ROM is causing issues?
From what I have seen even just straight root causes issues. I really prefer root without flashing a lot of extra. Simple and to the point. Gives me access to files without the head ache of something going wrong.
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hammer4203 said:
From what I have seen even just straight root causes issues. I really prefer root without flashing a lot of extra. Simple and to the point. Gives me access to files without the head ache of something going wrong.
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I rooted to stock and ran that for almost a week before flashing a rom. I had no issues whatsoever.
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Is it assumed that there will never be a true easy 1-click root solution for this phone?
I am on my last week of eligibility to return this phone and if there will not be the same kind of support for this phone from the dev community, then I would like to know so that I can return it.
MoxJr said:
Is it assumed that there will never be a true easy 1-click root solution for this phone?
I am on my last week of eligibility to return this phone and if there will not be the same kind of support for this phone from the dev community, then I would like to know so that I can return it.
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There is already a ton of support and development for this phone. There are several ROMS and kernels already, and the root process is very easy to do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how ADB works. Frankly, if you feel like you deserve to have superuser access to a *IX operating system then damnit you should know what the hell you're doing; that's just my 2 cents though. I wouldn't just turn over root access to my server rack to someone who doesn't understand and appreciate the responsibility of unfettered access to the operating system.
That being said, I am of the mindset that everyone should take the opportunity to learn how these systems work, and would gladly help anyone willing to do so. I have loved Unix based operating systems ever since I got my hands on the first release of Slackware Linux, love the BSDs, and have a lot of fun using Solaris.
nerozehl said:
There is already a ton of support and development for this phone. There are several ROMS and kernels already, and the root process is very easy to do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how ADB works. Frankly, if you feel like you deserve to have superuser access to a *IX operating system then damnit you should know what the hell you're doing; that's just my 2 cents though. I wouldn't just turn over root access to my server rack to someone who doesn't understand and appreciate the responsibility of unfettered access to the operating system.
That being said, I am of the mindset that everyone should take the opportunity to learn how these systems work, and would gladly help anyone willing to do so. I have loved Unix based operating systems ever since I got my hands on the first release of Slackware Linux, love the BSDs, and have a lot of fun using Solaris.
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Sorry but I'm just looking for something like unrevoked for the T-bolt. I only need it to remove all the bloat, not trying to do anything too fancy.
MoxJr said:
Sorry but I'm just looking for something like unrevoked for the T-bolt. I only need it to remove all the bloat, not trying to do anything too fancy.
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I understand totally wanting to get the bloat off the phone; that's something I think every owner wants, lol.
Stop getting angry when we do not want to help you fix the problem you are having. Seriously, quit it. You are warned left and right that you may not or will not get support for it. The simple fact is that auto/easy root methods are too questionable. It leaves you in the dark when something goes wrong. We cannot easily figure out what happened, why it happened, or what exactly the issue is because it is automatic. I'm annoyed at the amount of users who go onto IRC begging for help and start freaking out on us because YOU wanted the easy way out. It doesn't take more then a Google search to learn exactly what to do, what it is doing, and how it works for the manual root method. I can only speak for myself but I'm plenty sure other members can agree and attest to this. I, myself, spend more time helping lazy/scared people FIX their phones BECAUSE of an easy root method then doing any real development! And when I decline to, the AndIRC chatroom becomes a hated place and gets bashed on. Use at your own risk. Enjoy.
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If you don't want to help, don't help. People have every right to ask for help and if they freak out on you for not helping, ignore them. All you're doing by posting this thread is returning the sarcasm and snarkyness that you're accusing them of dishing out.
No no no. ProTekk is 1000% right on this. I get tired of lazy assholes on IRC who want to be spoon fed.
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Tbh, this wasn't an "I'm better and smarter than you" post. It was meant to be a clear and valid warning to all. In no way was I trying to come off as snarky or a know it all. If you take this the wrong way then maybe you need to.reread this and start over again.
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Oh, also, I explain in detail why and what my reasoning is. Don't start flaming buddy
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I agree 100%.
There are a lot of new people moving into android with this phone, and a lot of progress has been made through development inthe few weeks it has been out.
People really need to slow down, and read before jumping. I think that was proven this morning...good one Jcase
I've had a rooted phone for over a year now, been through roms like mad, but still get nervous and re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
Take your time people, read, re-read, ask questions, then flash, your phones not going anywhere unless you do something dumb and end up with a brick....which would more than likely be your fault if it happens.
Bimmer323 said:
I agree 100%.
There are a lot of new people moving into android with this phone, and a lot of progress has been made through development inthe few weeks it has been out.
People really need to slow down, and read before jumping. I think that was proven this morning...good one Jcase
I've had a rooted phone for over a year now, been through roms like mad, but still get nervous and re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
Take your time people, read, re-read, ask questions, then flash, your phones not going anywhere unless you do something dumb and end up with a brick....which would more than likely be your fault if it happens.
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Forgot about the questions. They.are more than welcome if it is about rooting. Ask away. We share knowledge. We don't hoard it and say go home. Glad to see some voices in here besides mine.
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Completely agree with protekk. Devs can not help you if they don't know the exact process of rooting went wrong if you use a "1 click" method. Using the process put out by jcase a person can start over or even go back to the prior step. The process jcase put out was a step by step (copy & paste commands) process. I am no better than any of you, but I can read and follow simple instructions, and in doing so have gotten a good understanding of adb. As for getting help, I have never had a problem with getting help, even when I started.
When rooting or flashing, you need to read, read, read, read, until you are comfortable with the instructions. Xda has info to getting everything setup and running. Research before you flash or root.
+1 man. I've only had my Thunderbolt for a few days and ended up deciding to root manually because I wanted to know what was going on, step by step. It's taking a little time to get used to CWM coming from the Eris where I've used Amon Ra's recovery.
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I've noticed a trend of folks really beating up on the dev's. Guys, our dev's do this for free or donations. Some even insist that we donate to the homeless or our favorite charity. You're not paying for support, these guys do what they do out of love and commitment to the community. Please remember this before you log onto IRC or make a new thread. The dev's have gone through a lot of trouble to learn these systems and write scripts for you, usually through reverse engineering and a lot of time. Respect their time by searching first.
Additionally, if you need help - please and thank you goes a long way. So do logcats and output from the screens that you're currently working with
Now, back to your regularly scheduled discussion.
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All I'm saying is I remember a lot of people complaining about jcase, not wanting a 1 click root released . He wanted people to know what was being done and how to do it. And people complained saying he had no right. I believe this is why he didn't want it released to soon. Damn I hate mind readers. Lol
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"ProTekk is 1000% right on this."
"+1"
If someone doesn't want to put in the time to understand what is going on and the processes taken to make it happen they shouldn't even bother rooting.
This is my first android phone ever. I have successfully rooted it on both a mac and pc. I followed the instructions and learned how to use adb (nothing fancy of course). If I can learn others can too.
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Thats a good point OP.
The method posted by JCASE is so simple that anyone should be able to do it.
1) Install drivers for your phone
2)copy files to your ADB directory and to your phone SD card
3)Open a command prompt
4)Copy and paste a bunch of ADB commands
5)Put the other PG05IMG.BIN on your phone
6)Copy and paste some more adb commands
7)Download a few market apps
8)Success
I mean where is that difficult? Its basically spoon fed. If you don't have the ability to copy files to your phones SD card, copy and paste commands into a DOS prompt, follow clear instructions, and install driver software for your phone, then you probably shouldn't bother doing anything. I don't even consider myself an ADB pro, I learned how to use some of it with my MOTO Droid and I still don't know what a bunch of the commands are. I know how to push files to my phone, how to pull files from my phone, and some other misc commands.
I agree. I was frustrated sure. Took me another 7 tries and a few different methods. But in the end I was the one responsible. I could have chose to give up , but because I didn't want to be left behind I kept learning and trying. I finally got it last night. It even feels better knowing how much trial and error I had to try. Makes me appreciate it more.
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TNS201 said:
Thats a good point OP.
The method posted by JCASE is so simple that anyone should be able to do it.
1) Install drivers for your phone
2)copy files to your ADB directory and to your phone SD card
3)Open a command prompt
4)Copy and paste a bunch of ADB commands
5)Put the other PG05IMG.BIN on your phone
6)Copy and paste some more adb commands
7)Download a few market apps
8)Success
I mean where is that difficult? Its basically spoon fed. If you don't have the ability to copy files to your phones SD card, copy and paste commands into a DOS prompt, follow clear instructions, and install driver software for your phone, then you probably shouldn't bother doing anything. I don't even consider myself an ADB pro, I learned how to use some of it with my MOTO Droid and I still don't know what a bunch of the commands are. I know how to push files to my phone, how to pull files from my phone, and some other misc commands.
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I'm considering moving to Android, possibly the Thunderbolt. I'm experienced with flashing custom ROMs to WinMo 6.X phones, but that's not a root process (at least not on any phones I've owned), it's a simple process of connecting the device tp a PC via USB, launching a program on the PC, clicking a few buttons and restarting the phone. Done.
Coming from that simplcity, the rooting process looks kinda daunting, but not impossible. I've been reading as much as I can in different forums, but without having the phone in front of me and trying it out, I'm not understanding the process.
For instance, "Open a command prompt." Is this on a connected PC, or directly on the phone? If on the phone, how do I get to a command prompt on it?
I guess I'd like to ask the knowledgeable folks here for a website they'd recommend for an absolute beginner to bone up before attempting his first root? Or multiple sites, where I can not only read how it's done, but what is actually happening at each step. I know my way around Windows pretty well (up to XP anyway), but have no idea when it comes to Linux.
As to folks who dork up their phones while trying to root/modify - the devs are offering their knowledge, free of charge. You aren't being forced to root, it's your choice and ultimately your responsibility. I've seen the occasional Sp.Ed. flip out because his phone bricked while flashing a WinMo custom ROM that someone spent many hours working on and tweaking. Not often, I'm glad to say - most folks are grateful for the effort.
This was my first android phone, and initially I was too scared to do the manual method. But, I manned up and decided to do it, and to be honest, it was simple. After that, I tried reading all the threads and being active in the community. That's the thing with attaining knowledge, you have to be proactive. Read through everything, and often. Don't just ask questions only when it pertains to your problem, because from what I've seen, it's always answered in some thread.
tl,dr:The gist, just be proactive. read read read
tedkord said:
I'm considering moving to Android, possibly the Thunderbolt. I'm experienced with flashing custom ROMs to WinMo 6.X phones, but that's not a root process (at least not on any phones I've owned), it's a simple process of connecting the device tp a PC via USB, launching a program on the PC, clicking a few buttons and restarting the phone. Done.
Coming from that simplcity, the rooting process looks kinda daunting, but not impossible. I've been reading as much as I can in different forums, but without having the phone in front of me and trying it out, I'm not understanding the process.
For instance, "Open a command prompt." Is this on a connected PC, or directly on the phone? If on the phone, how do I get to a command prompt on it?
I guess I'd like to ask the knowledgeable folks here for a website they'd recommend for an absolute beginner to bone up before attempting his first root? Or multiple sites, where I can not only read how it's done, but what is actually happening at each step. I know my way around Windows pretty well (up to XP anyway), but have no idea when it comes to Linux.
As to folks who dork up their phones while trying to root/modify - the devs are offering their knowledge, free of charge. You aren't being forced to root, it's your choice and ultimately your responsibility. I've seen the occasional Sp.Ed. flip out because his phone bricked while flashing a WinMo custom ROM that someone spent many hours working on and tweaking. Not often, I'm glad to say - most folks are grateful for the effort.
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look on you tube they have a real nice walk thru you should watch first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc6EMdPpF6o&annotation_id=annotation_68322&feature=iv
thanx nat3mil
Bimmer323 said:
re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
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Ayup. either a long contract or an expensive phone I do not want anything bad to happen to it
with my og droid I would do just about anything to it because that thing was bulletproof and I got buy 1 get 1 free .
my thunder bolt, it's treated with kid gloves
this is not a signature I type it in every time maybe sent from my phone or my computer
I have to agree for the most part...I rooted my bolt with the very first method released and it took me quit a while...had to do allot of reading (adb). I got most of my questions answered by going threw the threads.... reading other peoples problems they posted and then the fixes or answers left by knowledgeable forum members. Yes that takes time but it does help...I will vouch for that...lots of knowledge and answers here just have to put in the time.
I think people should be able to ask questions on here...thats part of why the forums are here, but if you ask and you don't get answer it's more than likely you have ask a question that has been asked before...several before's....Its just to basic of a question which could have several answers (not enough info in the question)....or you ask to many questions which means you have not done your home work.
Read and then read some more....google and google some more.....then ask the question....
+1000
People want to be spoon fed - doing things the right way is too hard for them
I've been holding off on rooting my Thunderbolt because I was waiting for a third party to make a program or app to simplify the process. It just seems to me that the phone has been neglected and even forgotten about.
Thoughts?
It's not that hard. Just copy and paste.
If you looked in the guide sticky you would see there is more than one guide for this.
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My thought is that your an idiot for not doing it, just check the md5's of every file and follow instructions. Its not hard and takes max an hour.
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mrcookjr said:
I've been holding off on rooting my Thunderbolt because I was waiting for a third party to make a program or app to simplify the process. It just seems to me that the phone has been neglected and even forgotten about.
Thoughts?
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Wow dude, I can promise you following a guide and a video tutorial on rooting via adb is not rocket science.
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Seriously?
I'm going to share this with you, because a monkey could follow the on screen prompts....
Also, Q&A section next time if you please.
http://www.multiupload.com/NOK55G17MZ
if ur gonna be lazy theres xda or google search easy root or one click root thunderbolt, SEARCHING BEFORE POSTING IS IMPORTANT
Its not as easy as one click root, but its not that difficult. Just take your time and follow the tutorials step by step
Jiv3turk3y89 said:
My thought is that your an idiot for not doing it, just check the md5's of every file and follow instructions. Its not hard and takes max an hour.
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This kind of crap is getting out of hand. If you talked like that to people in real life, you would have a VERY crooked nose. Please engage your brain before you speak, and treat your fellow man with more dignity and respect.
Morkai Almandragon said:
This kind of crap is getting out of hand. If you talked like that to people in real life, you would have a VERY crooked nose. Please engage your brain before you speak, and treat your fellow man with more dignity and respect.
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Well said. People might post silly questions but lets not be dicks to them. Either respond politely or ignore it. Please do not be uncivil.
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Quite frankly, if you can't follow the "manual" guide, you have no business rooting. Don't root for the sake of rooting, root because you're learned in the process and the reasoning of rooting. "OMG THEMES!!!1!!" is not a reason.
DeTard said:
Quite frankly, if you can't follow the "manual" guide, you have no business rooting. Don't root for the sake of rooting, root because you're learned in the process and the reasoning of rooting. "OMG THEMES!!!1!!" is not a reason.
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Frankly i couldn't agree with you more
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DeTard said:
Quite frankly, if you can't follow the "manual" guide, you have no business rooting. Don't root for the sake of rooting, root because you're learned in the process and the reasoning of rooting. "OMG THEMES!!!1!!" is not a reason.
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I have to disagree with that. I didn't follow the manual guide to root, it was too tedious, too many steps. I rooted for sake of rooting, I had no intentions of learning the process and the reasoning of rooting.
I used the 3 click method to root and now I'm enjoying CM7.
I suggest all the 1st time rooters do the same. Its safe and easy.
Morkai Almandragon said:
This kind of crap is getting out of hand. If you talked like that to people in real life, you would have a VERY crooked nose. Please engage your brain before you speak, and treat your fellow man with more dignity and respect.
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And the guy who gave him the crooked nose would be in prison... Idiot... Cause violence is your solution... better right!?
yumms said:
I have to disagree with that. I didn't follow the manual guide to root, it was too tedious, too many steps. I rooted for sake of rooting, I had no intentions of learning the process and the reasoning of rooting.
I used the 3 click method to root and now I'm enjoying CM7.
I suggest all the 1st time rooters do the same. Its safe and easy.
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You consider the 3 click safe when the guide itself actually talks about what to do when the program crashes? No, it is not safe and many devs and other people have spent ridiculous amounts of time fixing problems caused by these so-called "easy" methods.
yumms said:
I have to disagree with that. I didn't follow the manual guide to root, it was too tedious, too many steps. I rooted for sake of rooting, I had no intentions of learning the process and the reasoning of rooting.
I used the 3 click method to root and now I'm enjoying CM7.
I suggest all the 1st time rooters do the same. Its safe and easy.
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So when you have a problem you have no clue what to do about it!? Dude... I'm not trying to be rude here, but this is LAZY! If you are going to learn to do something learn the right way so you don't have to make a post a few minutes later about screwing up and not knowing jack squat about ADB...
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And the guy who gave him the crooked nose would be in prison... Idiot... Cause violence is your solution... better right!?
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He didn't say violence was better, he was stating that if he was this much of a jackass in person, SOMEONE would have beat his ass for it. Not everyone, but he would have ran into someone that would have refused to tolerate that non-sense. Anyhow, you should stay away from making the ad hominem argument regardless. Ad hominem = insta-fail.
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He didn't say violence was better, he was stating that if he was this much of a jackass in person, SOMEONE would have beat his ass for it. Not everyone, but he would have ran into someone that would have refused to tolerate that non-sense. Anyhow, you should stay away from making the ad hominem argument regardless. Ad hominem = insta-fail.
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He's still an idiot. Hey he made the comment about violence not me. Just shows how "smart" people really are... If he doesn't learn ADB what's the point? The point of life is to learn not to have everything done for you. Ignorance turns people into idiots...
EDIT: Nonetheless some moron would be in jail for the violence lol.
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So when you have a problem you have no clue what to do about it!? Dude... I'm not trying to be rude here, but this is LAZY! If you are going to learn to do something learn the right way so you don't have to make a post a few minutes later about screwing up and not knowing jack squat about ADB...
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Exactly. The manual method gives you a much higher chance of success as well as gives people a chance to ask for help if they get stuck or mess something up in the process. Easy methods do too much without verbosity, and you don't really know what it is that you're doing. When you know, you can ask for help.
Also understand this. I was a moron when I rooted my phone the first time. I did the 3-click solution because I TOO was lazy about it. The program did crash as the guide said it might, and I still stupidly went through it. Why? Because I didn't know any better. While successful, I highly recommend against following in my footsteps. I have since gone through the manual steps, and I actually understand what each step does, and I can see where each MD5 check is there for your safety. It makes sure there is no corruption in the files you downloaded, the files you copied, and no corruption in the actual flash process.
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I've been holding off on rooting my Thunderbolt because I was waiting for a third party to make a program or app to simplify the process. It just seems to me that the phone has been neglected and even forgotten about.
Thoughts?
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Personally, not learning the process of the "hard" way (it's not hard.. at all) is a mistake. You don't understand the steps that the automated way takes you, so if something fails it's even more difficult to resolve it. Check the MD5 hashes and follow the steps. You will learn during the process, which is always a positive.
SO... I totally started this venture yesterday. I tend to jump right into things. I love my MT4GS and I love "jailbreaking" iPhone and Unlocking other phones so ROOTING was obviously the next step. THIS CRAP IS HARD! I can't believe how much goes into it... Here is where I am so far:
I successfully managed to screw everything yesterday and was able to fix it thanks to some TIPS from fellow XDA Members. Thank You.
AS OF this morning: I have updated REVOLUTIONARY to Modaco 4.0.0.9. However, I used a temp root when I did this and am having to do this everytime in order to gain root access. I need a reliable permanent root. Is this a good idea or should I stick with temp root and just perform this everytime?
I have been thinking about flashing different ROMs such a cyanogen or senseless but I am leary. I need an app or program that will allow me to BACKUP my Stock ROM. ROM Manager is not compatible with the MT4GS (as you know) SO what do I use?
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SO... I totally started this venture yesterday. I tend to jump right into things. I love my MT4GS and I love "jailbreaking" iPhone and Unlocking other phones so ROOTING was obviously the next step. THIS CRAP IS HARD! I can't believe how much goes into it... Here is where I am so far:
I successfully managed to screw everything yesterday and was able to fix it thanks to some TIPS from fellow XDA Members. Thank You.
AS OF this morning: I have updated REVOLUTIONARY to Modaco 4.0.0.9. However, I used a temp root when I did this and am having to do this everytime in order to gain root access. I need a reliable permanent root. Is this a good idea or should I stick with temp root and just perform this everytime?
I have been thinking about flashing different ROMs such a cyanogen or senseless but I am leary. I need an app or program that will allow me to BACKUP my Stock ROM. ROM Manager is not compatible with the MT4GS (as you know) SO what do I use?
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Looking for this?
It's dated, but still valid.
Thank You VERY Much... tis EXACTLY what I was looking for actually.
XigntCrcmstnc said:
Thank You VERY Much... tis EXACTLY what I was looking for actually.
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Everyone starts out somewhere. Flashing the recovery image via Fastboot is actually safer than any other method other than ROM Manager (which we obviously can't use right now), but only if you have the right recovery image.
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Thank You VERY Much... tis EXACTLY what I was looking for actually.
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...or you could've clicked the "backup guide" link in my sig
It's a wee bit more in-depth then that wiki page, though the wiki page is still nice to browse through - my backup guide is here in our sub-section of the forums.
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Everything you need to get your phone up and running is right here in the MT4GS sub-section of the XDA forums, honest... the only other place you have to go is the Revolutionary wiki/web page, and that's just to get S-OFF. After that, this is your home.
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...or you could've clicked the "backup guide" link in my sig
It's a wee bit more in-depth then that wiki page, though the wiki page is still nice to browse through - my backup guide is here in our sub-section of the forums.
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Everything you need to get your phone up and running is right here in the MT4GS sub-section of the XDA forums, honest... the only other place you have to go is the Revolutionary wiki/web page, and that's just to get S-OFF. After that, this is your home.
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I did use your guide quite a lot actually. I even bookmarked it for reference purposes. I did that with A LOT of pages to be honest. I took in SO MUCH information yesterday it was almost OVERWHELMING. I had a fresh start this morning and was able to accomplish everything though. I do appreciate the help from everyone.
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I did use your guide quite a lot actually. I even bookmarked it for reference purposes. I did that with A LOT of pages to be honest. I took in SO MUCH information yesterday it was almost OVERWHELMING. I had a fresh start this morning and was able to accomplish everything though. I do appreciate the help from everyone.
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Jailbreaking an iphone is so easy but so limited. I did and I phone 4 yesterday. If I recall its so easy I forgot what I used red snow I think it was lol. Hate the fact you have to re run the tether if phone loses power
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I get off "tweaking" stuff... I can't help it... I'm sure you know how I feel lol I'm only just now breaking the surface of ROOTING. I want to learn to make my own ROMs like Undeadk9 and Paulobrien and others... exciting stuff!
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I get off "tweaking" stuff... I can't help it... I'm sure you know how I feel lol I'm only just now breaking the surface of ROOTING. I want to learn to make my own ROMs like Undeadk9 and Paulobrien and others... exciting stuff!
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It takes a lot of time and research. I'm still learning to this day.
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It takes a lot of time and research. I'm still learning to this day.
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I am willing to invest as much time as is needed as well as research. It helps to have brilliant minds, such as yourself, as your disposal. Thank you for all your hard work. I am enjoying your Senseless ROM so far. (It has only been a few hours)... I am hoping to be able to contribute to the DEVs forum soon. Is ECLIPSE a good program for writing your own ROM or no?
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I am willing to invest as much time as is needed as well as research. It helps to have brilliant minds, such as yourself, as your disposal. Thank you for all your hard work. I am enjoying your Senseless ROM so far. (It has only been a few hours)... I am hoping to be able to contribute to the DEVs forum soon. Is ECLIPSE a good program for writing your own ROM or no?
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I personally have ROM kitchen, Java, ubuntu, and Linux. Linux I haven't gotten down yet.
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Are you ready to root your phone!?
I am writing this out do to the amount of people who seem to start doing things on their phones without understanding what it is they're really doing.
Now you might say "I know I know exad, I root many phoen, I want 2 show peopel how smrt I am! I custumize everything and maek it lewk cool!" But there's really quite a bit of risk associate with the rooting process and even afterwards! Here, I will explain some of the common terms and risks associated with rooting, it will be like an index of knowledge I've accumulated being here on XDA.
So first off, what is root? Why is it dangerous?
I will tell you very directly, if you do not know exactly what root is, and/or how to manage access, you are not at all ready to root.
Root is a term to mean Administrative Access. Meaning you have full control over the software of your phone and it's system files. When you are given root access, you can alter any system files. This can obviously be damaging. Perhaps you trust yourself not to do anything crazy or destructive, which I think is the case for most people but often, root access is given to third party apps! So what can an app with root access do with your phone technically?.. Well, ANYTHING IT'S DEVELOPER wants. Overclock your CPU, create a backdoor to your phone, pull/steal personal information. The sky's the limit.
*This is a work in reprogress* More content will continue to be added until I feel this is complete."
Nice write up exad
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I agree. Very nice.
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Thanks guys! Means a lot coming from two top notch contributers as yourselves!
Yup.....very nice. I have been doing this for so Iong I had forgotten why. :thumbup:
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This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
No. Thank you sir. I haven't thought about the basics in a long time. Been to busy just flashing away lol.
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a box of kittens said:
This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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We can only hope. Good job!
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I was thinking of doing a write up, but with work and army, I have no time. As you can see I am constantly on the app. However, this is awesome. I wish I had this when I started a few months ago. I just learned on my own. Also the android slang guide helped too.
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I wrote up something like this a while ago but decided not to post it because noobs never read these things. I may just throw it up in General.
Great work I will add it to my FAQ
Thanks for all your help, unfortunately I am one of those noobs who had been studying the root process for just about a week and thought I had a firm grasp on the concept. Fortunately for me I haven't done anything yet to brick my phone this is definitely a humbling experience haha -heads back to the forums to learn some more- :good:
Hmm not sure why this doesn't have more recognition... It took me months to figure this crap out. With a little experience, this guide could turn a total noob into a competant android rooter in a week or so. I remember my first posts on XDA *shudders*. So.... consider this a BUMPITY-BUMP
EDIT: That said, I know the first place many people go is general (that's what I did) so maybe this would get more views by the people who actually need it in general.
I would have loved this when I was rooting
Thanks for this. I've already rooted my phone and had to find much of this information on my own. It's nice to see it all in one place.
-RB
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
Organized_Chaos said:
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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I came here through the link in FAQ! Too bad you deleted it
I can understand not updating because few people read this post but why actually delete it?